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garya
16-12-2009, 23:29
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awryt guys i am looking to buy a hid kit for my 5 off ebay but am not sure which one is the best to buy i am lookin for the best but not to expesive?.cheers:cool:

markey b
17-12-2009, 12:19
2 options for the 5

h4 hi/lo and h4 single

6000k is a good colour/brightness

Kenobi
17-12-2009, 12:38
I can get a group buy on HID kits very cheapo chips.

Schakal
17-12-2009, 13:00
how much do they go for these days than ?
anyone know if they are easy enough to fit etc ?

Kenobi
17-12-2009, 13:08
how much do they go for these days than ?
anyone know if they are easy enough to fit etc ?


i can do it so they gotta be easy. Single beam with slim ballas. h4 single 6000k.

Right proper quality kits £65 plus postage if i can get enough names together for my order.

I need 8 names to go ahead.

HULK
17-12-2009, 13:08
are they not illegal to put in r5 headlights???

Kenobi
17-12-2009, 13:09
are they not illegal to put in r5 headlights???


Yes.

HULK
17-12-2009, 13:18
why bother then??

Kenobi
17-12-2009, 13:28
why bother then??


Coz its cool.

markey b
17-12-2009, 13:35
because its illegal but no one gets in trouble for them, its more construction and use than blatantly illegal (e.g having blue sidelights etc)

once you've driven with HID's at night, you will realise why they are superior

i dont own a car without them now, in fact even my missus has them on her KA!

set up properly they wont dazzle other road users either

you can get cheap sets off ebay for about £35 delivered although they take a week or two to arrive, but i havn't had a problem with them yet

Chris Hebden
17-12-2009, 14:43
It is NOT illegal!!!!!!!!!! It is only illegal if they dazzle oncoming vehicles i.e. poorly adjusted/installed

Schakal
17-12-2009, 14:57
i thought it was illegal due to the older type headlight design
where the glass dictates the direction of light etc ?
newer vehicles installed with these seem to have diamond cut
glass on the headlight .

Chris Hebden
17-12-2009, 16:27
Installation MAY be an issue, i dont know. They are only illegal if they are dazzling oncoming traffic OR they do not produce the correct pattern at the MOT station

HULK
17-12-2009, 16:28
i thought it was illegal due to the older type headlight design
where the glass dictates the direction of light etc ?
newer vehicles installed with these seem to have diamond cut
glass on the headlight .

yep your spot on. You have to have a projector style headlight for it to be legal

Schakal
17-12-2009, 16:59
yep your spot on. You have to have a projector style headlight for it to be legal


how about getting the glasses out and getting them diamond cut ?
(dont even know if thats possible btw )
even then would you not need some sort of mechanism on the bulb
holder to allow change of beam direction ?

The new Bill J
17-12-2009, 17:00
You also need headlight washers, apparently...

J$£5GTT
17-12-2009, 17:23
i have the 6000 kit from justhid.co.uk,there bright but kinda a mare to set up,i have the adjusters wound to the max an they are still to hi,have only just dipped the lamp units but have not tested yet,anyway i have noticed the minis and some bmw's are brighter and seem to dazzle way more than my cheapo kit...same goes for other makes out there.

minty83
17-12-2009, 17:30
i run 8000kw hid kits in my 5 and golf both go threw the mot fine:)

The new Bill J
17-12-2009, 17:36
i run 8000kw hid kits in my 5 and golf both go threw the mot fine:)

That doesn't make them legal. An MOT is not a legality test :ho:

Kenobi
17-12-2009, 17:38
That doesn't make them legal. An MOT is not a legality test :ho:
Thank god. your right though, without washers and without self levelling headlights these are Illegal.

I just dont care.:cooter:

markey b
17-12-2009, 17:59
It is NOT illegal!!!!!!!!!! It is only illegal if they dazzle oncoming vehicles i.e. poorly adjusted/installed

for xenon (hid) lights to be legal, you need automatic leveling and a means of cleaning the headlamp lense, eg washers or wipers

if it doesn't have both, then they dont conform to construction and use regs.. eg. the law

all the mot worries about is if they have a beam pattern, mine have a beam pattern even with old lenses

tiff_lee
17-12-2009, 18:12
The ministry of transport said retrofitting HID lamps into a non-HID headlight housing is illegal.

Ian S
17-12-2009, 18:39
You also need headlight washers
At last, someone in possession of an actual fact.

According to Regal Bulbs, who give the RTOC a discount,

• The glass HAS to be E marked with the number: ECA98

• And there HAS to be a self levelling system attached to the headlight so that if passengers get in, the beam height adjusts to the correct position.

• Most MOT inspectors don't know they are illegal and they usually pass the MOT, provided they are correctly adjusted.

The 35 Watter equates to about 150 Watts of Halogen.

They are not all projection lamps, mostly not I'd guess.

The £35 ones come direct from China. But people do say they are generally OK. They are about £60 from UK sellers and up to about £300 for not much difference.

There are 35 Watt and 55 Watt versions.

Colour temperature starts at 4300°Kelvin. That's a bit whiter than normal halogens and gives out more light than 6000°K or higher for the same Wattage.

sphinX
17-12-2009, 19:23
I'm in for some!

Ian S
17-12-2009, 19:33
i can do it so they gotta be easy. Single beam with slim ballas. h4 single 6000k.

Right proper quality kits £65 plus postage if i can get enough names together for my order.

On eBay I found a vendor selling H4 Bi-Xenon 35 Watt near me for £60 per pair. I think I'd prefer the 4300°K for maximum light output.

I bought the 80% brighter Philips Vision H4 bulbs instead from Regal Bulbs. Just under £20. According to the Auto express test, brighter than the 90% ones from the other company that I forget the name of. They are brighter, but less 'white' that the 50% brighter one I had.

Kenobi
17-12-2009, 20:14
Buy them from me!!!

Put names down.

1. Kenobi

jonnyshaw49
17-12-2009, 20:18
so what are the bulbs/kit needed for the r5 gt as there are a few h4 sets out there for sale which are:

h4 kit 3000k-12000k
hb4 hid kit 3000k-12000k
h4h hid kit 3000k-12000k

also is it possible to fit them into the fogs are they h2 bulbs???

garya
17-12-2009, 20:26
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kenobi.does the ones you get come with instructions etc as a have no idea how to fit them,also what power there they.:cool: