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    From Power Steering To Manual

    I'm doing a project street sleeper by putting a volvo turbo lump into my mk 2 clio..

    Now the clio has power steering and i was wondering how much work is it to convert it to manual steering rack, it would make my life simpler so i don't have to plumb in the power steering pipes..

    Is it as simple as changing the rack for a manual one, same bolts the lot ? would it fit ok on the end of my coloum.. ?

    Any help would be pucka guys..
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    Re: From Power Steering To Manual

    You can just remove the pipes from the rack and run dry.. Will work ok but i here that the rack doesnt last as long.....

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    Re: From Power Steering To Manual

    I think you link the pipes together to keep the crap out. Just keep the PAS.

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    Re: From Power Steering To Manual

    When i did my clio conversion i just took pipes off and filled the holes with silicone to keep dirt out. I felt it drove fine and was not an issue.

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    Re: From Power Steering To Manual

    so really i can just remove the pipes or blank them off, and it will still steer fine ? Will it not be heavy on the steering, just some cars you cant even turn when the pump has gone or a pipe is burst...

    Also interested in this clio you done mate, do you have any pic's or info i need to guide me along.. I wanna make a monster 4 door sleeper clio, some thing that no one would ever expect to go so well..

    I wanna nail m3's to a ton lol

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    Re: From Power Steering To Manual

    I was under the impression PAS racks were designed to function with PAS only and without the pump, fluid etc the steering becomes uber stiff and will eventually ruin the rack?

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    Re: From Power Steering To Manual

    I would have said the same thing, we have had cars in work with no ps fluid in and u can barly turn the steering lol...

    Is it not a simple job to wack a standard rack init, i have the engine out and subframe down so its all there simple to get to...

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    Re: From Power Steering To Manual

    which model has a suitable rack though? Just connect the PAS up, you have all the bits.

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    Re: From Power Steering To Manual

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Cooke View Post
    which model has a suitable rack though? Just connect the PAS up, you have all the bits.
    keep the pas and hock it up or get a none pas rack
    reason is the ratios are different . and if you use a pas rack without it being pumped your not going to be able to stear fast enough to get you out of trouble due to the heavy and restricted movment

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    Re: From Power Steering To Manual

    Ok, on my clio i had with GT lump my rack and rack speed etc felt the same ass my valver i drive everyday, i didnt even notice that i ditched the PAS.. the only pain was car park parking style driving, but even that wasnt hard to turn im going of the c1j lump here fitted to a Mk1 clio
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    Re: From Power Steering To Manual

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Cooke View Post
    which model has a suitable rack though? Just connect the PAS up, you have all the bits.
    Well the volvo pump looks almost indentical to that of the reno, only thing i will have to do is prob bend the pipes to fit the pump...

    Just life would be easier with a standard rack plus no pipes under the bonnet for a tidy look.... Would the fittings be the same on the reno pump to that of the volvo pipes?

    Also would i use the volvo altinator or the reno one.. ?

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    Re: From Power Steering To Manual

    Quote Originally Posted by Rob@Backyardracing View Post
    Ok, on my clio i had with GT lump my rack and rack speed etc felt the same ass my valver i drive everyday, i didnt even notice that i ditched the PAS.. the only pain was car park parking style driving, but even that wasnt hard to turn im going of the c1j lump here fitted to a Mk1 clio
    I can't comment on a clio but my comment was based on my old pug 306, the PAS pump pulley came off on the motorway and I could barely turn at speed let alone at a stand still.

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    Re: From Power Steering To Manual

    A 2001 Clio I did some engine conversion work on came with a PAS rack, we just left the PAS disconnected and it worked fine as manual rack. Steering was heavy but usable, it wouldn't bother me and didn't bother the owner. maybe a manual rack would have felt lighter ?

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    Re: From Power Steering To Manual

    Quote Originally Posted by tiff_lee View Post
    I can't comment on a clio but my comment was based on my old pug 306, the PAS pump pulley came off on the motorway and I could barely turn at speed let alone at a stand still.
    I agree on some cases.. i drove many porsches with failed PAS and there a bitch to streer... i ditched the PAS on my civic project but this isnt to bad imo... depends on the car...........

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    Re: From Power Steering To Manual

    Ok so steering could be a bit of trial and error...

    What about which altinator to use, the volvo one or the renault one, i would have said volvo one because of the loom im using to, but then on the other hand maybe the reno one cuz it goes with the car ?

    Both only have 2 wires in them - any idea's lad's

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    Re: From Power Steering To Manual

    use the Volvo as it's already bolted to the engine, no need to make work for yourself

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    Re: From Power Steering To Manual

    I was thinking the same but im sure i red some where that i need the rsi altinator bracket too, some thing about not clearing summit when the engine is fitted.

    But looking at it id say it will fit fine.. ?

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    Re: From Power Steering To Manual

    Give it a go could always get the bracket afterwards if required?

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    Re: From Power Steering To Manual

    Yeah as soon as i get this rsi mounting that goes on the head ill be away, i was gonna hang the engine in the car and wire the loom in roughly just so i can hear it run ir the car and see that it fits and how it fits..
    I wont even bother fitting the subframe or drive shafts, aslong as i can run it for 10 seconds ill be happy, then i can make a start sorting every thing out properly..

    So bloody need that mount - just one mount holding me back..

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