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    clutch cable strech

    could this cause the gear changes to require more force ??
    there is no crunching etc btw .

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    Re: clutch cable strech

    i recon the inner cable is getting dry, release bearing getting stiff on the input shaft or maybe the cover plateis about to destroy itself

    the renault 5 clutch mechanism is self adjusting to compensate for stretch... to reset it... depress clutch fully, then just sidestep it, makiing pedal shoot up. do it a couple of times and it should reset the adjustment

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    Re: clutch cable strech

    Quote Originally Posted by markey b View Post
    i recon the inner cable is getting dry, release bearing getting stiff on the input shaft or maybe the cover plateis about to destroy itself

    the renault 5 clutch mechanism is self adjusting to compensate for stretch... to reset it... depress clutch fully, then just sidestep it, makiing pedal shoot up. do it a couple of times and it should reset the adjustment

    the clutch is a brand new one only done 10k miles with a standard f7p engine
    so is the release bearing .
    but i know the clutch cable has done loads more cause i used what was on there .
    not to mention there is a nut fitted to the gearbox end of the cable to act as a spacer .
    i guess will have to change the cable anyway

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    Re: clutch cable strech

    hang on a sec !!!

    i am 100% sure the gears would select with ease when the engine is
    off before this problem without using the clutch pedal .
    now thats not working either .
    it cant be the cable than ,can it ??

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    Re: clutch cable strech

    engine mounts?

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    Re: clutch cable strech

    Quote Originally Posted by gttjames View Post
    engine mounts?

    fornt and g/b mount are brand new only done 10k as well .
    the rear one was looking sweet as at the time .
    but yes it makes sense as it feels like something is physically
    pushing in the opposite direction when i am engaging gears .

    i am more worried that the selector mech inside the box is fubared somehow

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    Re: clutch cable strech

    ive found threw work that the clutch pedal ratchet mechanism wears the teeth off in time as the ratchet is only plastic and consquently have replaced the pedal assembly insted of the cable

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    Re: clutch cable strech

    Quote Originally Posted by mr bean aka pete View Post
    ive found threw work that the clutch pedal ratchet mechanism wears the teeth off in time as the ratchet is only plastic and consquently have replaced the pedal assembly insted of the cable

    i agree but this still does not explain why i cant select gears
    without pressing the pedal when engine is off

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    Re: clutch cable strech

    Let me get this right, you can't select gears with the engine off and not even pushing the pedal down?

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    Re: clutch cable strech

    Quote Originally Posted by Markey Mark (BD) View Post
    Let me get this right, you can't select gears with the engine off and not even pushing the pedal down?

    no mate ,
    i can select gears with great difficulty ,using lots more force .

    whether the engine is on and i am using the pedal or engine off
    not using the pedal ,the amount of force needed to select gears
    remain the same .
    which makes me think there is nothing wrong with ratchet mech. or the pedal
    but something else is wrong .

    ps: checked the gearbox oil and there is plenty in there before anyone asks

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    Re: clutch cable strech

    even with the engine off if you don't press the clutch pedal then gears can be quite stiff to select because the input shaft isn't able to nudge back and forth as you try to mesh gears.

    but anyway, you could rule the clutch cable/mech out by shimming it up at the gearbox end for a test. you know those big washers that go behind the hub nuts, slip one or 2 of those over the outer body of the cable before you place it on the gearbox, see how you go then. if there's no difference then I guess something is binding up in the gearbox.

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    Re: clutch cable strech

    Quote Originally Posted by Scoff View Post
    even with the engine off if you don't press the clutch pedal then gears can be quite stiff to select because the input shaft isn't able to nudge back and forth as you try to mesh gears.

    but anyway, you could rule the clutch cable/mech out by shimming it up at the gearbox end for a test. you know those big washers that go behind the hub nuts, slip one or 2 of those over the outer body of the cable before you place it on the gearbox, see how you go then. if there's no difference then I guess something is binding up in the gearbox.

    with this box its never been a problem to select gears without the pedal .
    i know it so well ,cause i always put the handbrake on ,turn the engine off
    and stick it in 1st or 2nd as i get out the car . its my daily routine

    there is allready a slit nut doing the washer duties on the g/b end and its about
    5-6mm thick . i will still give that a shot to eliminate though

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    Re: clutch cable strech

    Has this fault just started or have you done some work to the car recently? Its sounding to me like a box or linkage fault if you've ruled out all the rachet and cable by shimming it like Scoff said.

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    Re: clutch cable strech

    Quote Originally Posted by Markey Mark (BD) View Post
    Has this fault just started or have you done some work to the car recently? Its sounding to me like a box or linkage fault if you've ruled out all the rachet and cable by shimming it like Scoff said.

    have not done anything on the car at all ,it only started yesterday or the day before
    progressively got worse .i quickly had a look at the linkage and operated the gear
    selector mech from under the car by hand having to use loads of force again ,
    feels like something is seizing up inside the box

    i will jack it up and have a better look tomorrow after disconnecting the linkage .

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    Re: clutch cable strech

    When you get under the car take the gear linkage of the gearbox and see if you can put it in gear easily by hand, that will tell you if its box or not. Easiest way to do it is take the 13mm bolt out that hold the linkage to the selector.

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    Re: clutch cable strech

    fixxxoreeddd

    what i have done is to disconnect the gear linkage bar from the g/b end
    and do a few gear changes by hand while chucking some grease on there .

    my theory is , there is supposed to be a washer before the nut that connects the rod to the gearbox end according to haynes . there was not one there when i disconnected ,just a bolt and a locking nut
    which i think has somehow tightened itself overtime due to lack of washer .

    refitted the lot using a washer and changes are as sweet as again

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    Re: clutch cable strech

    Quote Originally Posted by Schakal View Post
    fixxxoreeddd

    what i have done is to disconnect the gear linkage bar from the g/b end
    and do a few gear changes by hand while chucking some grease on there .

    my theory is , there is supposed to be a washer before the nut that connects the rod to the gearbox end according to haynes . there was not one there when i disconnected ,just a bolt and a locking nut
    which i think has somehow tightened itself overtime due to lack of washer .

    refitted the lot using a washer and changes are as sweet as again
    Ive seen that a few times, very easy mistake to be done.

    At least its sorted now mate.

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