off to a little classic car meet at a pub which is about a 15-20min drive away tomorrow night, its only the second one to be held there but i hear the first one had over 30 cars there so im hoping my car will be ok for them
anyway if anyone is interested then it starts at 7pm at the bleeding wolf in scholar green its totally free as well
http://www.thebleedingwolf.co.uk/s_whatson.asp
ok fella as long as its not raining then ill be there
it was a good night. yours motor looks so well. it was great to see such a mix of cars aswell.
wheres this ???
Have a look here fella
https://rtoc.org/boards/showthread.php?t=34269
right fellas im probably doing something really obvious but id sooner check with you lot who have seen it/done it a million times.
since i refitted my turbo its gained alot of lag like 500-700rpm full boost now iv spoke to turbo builder and also dave clark who fitted one of these billet wheels into his turbo and they both say it should if anything be on song earlier dave especially says his was something like 250-500rpm sooner.
so i was trying to think what could be the problem and come up with a little list (yes prob some of it wont affect things) but iv put it in there anyway just in case.
just to note the turbo is spooling up at 2k so id think it should be on song at least at same time as old set up at 4k
list
wrong preload on actuator?
cam timing slipped?
tdc sensor ?
boost leak?
any help would be much appreciated
always worth checking for boost leaks especially if your pipe run has lots of joins, and for the record good quality jubilee clips are far more reliable than mikalor clips, I had nothing but problems with mine.
If the comp wheel is bigger then this would surly mean it would reach full boost a little later, but like you say you have got quite a lot of extra lag. The increase in size should have been off set by the fact it's a billet wheel I guess.
What was the actuator boost before the new wheel and is it the same now? Do you use any boost control devices other than the actuator?
Car is now for sale 3k takes it as it is.
hi phil sorry i never got back to you fella
iv not had much time to do anything on the car as i was on my hols all last week, but i managed get a couple of hours last night to do a bit.
firstly i decided i wanted to replace the german ebay 2mm needle valve and refit the oe solex needle valve which i had drilled out to 2mm.
so i took carb top etc etc off and did this no probs.
But on removal of carb top i noticed the drivers side pin was hardly even pinch tight, so i got it back together and went to refit carb top all went well until getting to the drivers side fitting it wouldnt tighten at all and must be threaded, so this is where some of my boost could of been going?
i now have the required bit ordered off mike and hopefully will have it here saturday.
i also adjusted the actuator to get it sitting more square as the rod didnt look square at all tbh.
boost is the same matey and i also use a bleed valve checked all this and no leaks from there.
iv done a bit more research on billet wheel and my mate tells me there is no increase in size.
im now hoping with the oe needle valve fitted that the fuelling can be sorted and also fingers crossed might of fount the boost/lag issue
Loose carb top probably the fault
Check all your hoses thoroughly. I had the smallest split under a jubilee clip on the van that caused all sorts of problems, boost dropping off and slow spool etc. Only found it on the off chance.
Pre-load on the actuator can make a difference. On a high boost setup you want a fair bit in my opinion, i have between 10-15mm and a bleed off obviously be careful when testing you can see mega boost very easily.
thanks mr briggs
haha i know about the boost testing as i got over 30psi when we were trying sort it
i really do hope it was the carb top causing it as that will be an easy fix, best thing is id of probably never of checked it as id presume it was tight, lesson learnt
ill report back on how much preload is on the turbo atm, id say its around 8mm at a guess
i shall also have a good check over the hoses i do know one of the intercooler hoses looks a bit worse for wear but its only on the surface and doesnt seem to have gone through the hose.
well yesterday i finally got the 2 required studs off mike so i could refit my carb top etc, got it all on nice and no gaps like before, so i thought lets give it a test now goes to start the car and battery was virtually flat , so iv stuck my battery booster on charge and will hopefully get to fire the car into life either today or tomorrow evening
finally got around to getting the car started last night, it fired into life and then died and would not start again, so i decided to take the carb completely off and strip it down/clean out and build back up. I also removed the spark plugs and gave all them a clean and they certainly needed it with how the car has been overfuelling.
refitted carb and plugs and she fired up straight away i just had to reset the idle speed and mixture which iv never known to adjust so easily, so fingers crossed we might have a much better fuelling carb now, i will find out on friday as im using my car to go onto a job as my van is in for m.o.t
Looking good andy you still thinking of selling her?
thanks andy
yes mate but only if i get what i think its worth.
but for now i shall fingers crossed enjoy it.
nice one mate, hopefully it all works out for the best
come on andy get that thing up the road and let us know the score
got someone coming to view the car next friday, fingers crossed all goes well and i can get it moved on to someone who can get some pleasure/use out of it.
i have really regretted chucking all that money at it since the day i got it back, time to leave the whole car scene for a while
ill honestly be happy to see it drive away with a new owner with the enthusiasm to keep it going strong
a long overdue update
i was seriously toying with the idea of selling the car and having a break from the whole car scene for a while, but i have decided to keep it an hopefully get some good use out of it this year.
first job is to renew the wiring for the fuel pump as its gone dodgy and as a result the car wont start, iv still not got to the bottom of the turbo boost issue i cant find any leaks or anything so i will be sending the turbo back to my mate for a check over just incase something is a miss there.
mate i cant thank you enough for all the help/advice you have gave me over the last few months.
looking forward to getting some good use out the car this year
cheers fella i do have to agree that a break from all things cars has done me good.
im hoping to not have spend any money on the car apart from putting petrol in and general maintenance.
will be interesting to see what power the car makes when it finally goes back on the dyno in april
Yes mate defo get some miles on get- it's too good a car to not use
Get them bolts and put the centre caps on, put the door decal on and she'll look a million bucks!!
Love them turbines in black- I thought about doing mine that colour! They set the car off a treat. Look forward to seeing it sometime this summer I hope!
defo mate i have been informed that ill be getting a van provided b work in april so m escort van can go. which will then mean i will use the car alot more.
i also liked the wheels in black but iv seen about another 5 r5s with the same look so when funds allow there could be a wheel change.
does look good and nice to read your keeping it.
have you got any wheel ideas yet? i pondered for ages
weather permitting me and ash (redoctober) will be working on my car this sunday.
going to take the carb off and give it an overhaul and reduce 1st stage down to 0.8 to start as its rich off boost.
oz superturismo..........cough cough
well guys after a a long overdue delay i can now say the car is finally back alive
first off i have to say a huge thanks to ex member GT Josh (josh reeves) for taking time on a saturday to head upto Stoke from Oldham and spend a good 2-3 hours sorting the starting problem and then having a good old fettle with carb and a general check over things.
The problem turned out to be a temperamental fuel relay so i now know what to go to if it decides to play up again.
fitted new carb top which obviously got rid of the air leak from there as it was only sealing on 2/3 studs.
once started josh picked up that the carb needs new throttle shaft seals and possibly a couple of base gaskets, he also advised me to get a new dizzy and rotor as it wasnt firing as well as could be.
Honestly must say josh's knowledge on the little c1j is amazing and i do hope he comes back to the scene in the future.
i was also told that i could move my radiotor over a few inches so that i can run the intercooler pipe directly down the front and give it a bit more space than it has now, josh proceeded to give me the piece of piping that would be required to fit to modify the top rad hose
after all this he wouldnt take a penny off me, so he had a beer then was forced to take £20 and i gave him a couple of never used bodybuilding powders that he could sell and make £30-40 as i know hes big into the bodybuilding and surely someone would take them.
anyways i know mike at gt spares is having a few issues lately so i decided to make an order from cgb as i need stuff asap.
i ordered the following
full carb rebuild kit
new mixture screw
new dizzy and rotor arm
new carb base mounting gaskets
new ngk b8eg spark plugs
i also got a pair of throttle shaft green seals from the rtoc club shop. im off out today to get a new battery from gsf as mine is defo past its best.
so my job will be to do all the above and also reduce 1st stage on carb down to 0.8 to start and go from there as its too rich off boost.
also got to send turbo back to my mate for a check over so going to remove it today and get it sent off
heres a brief vid of the car running
great to see it running and its nice to know there are still good people about
honestly iv been in a few other car scenes, vauxhall,ford and mg and none of them come close to the renault 5 scene for sticking together and helping each other out its a credit to the owners
i also have to give a big mention to james poole who drove from crewe on friday to where i was working in stoke and dropped me a bag full of parts free of charge which included uprated fuel pump, and numerous relays, he wouldnt take any money so i will donate some money for his dyno run in april
Sounds all good, he had a good teacher did josh plus he loves being paid in protein
Nothing wrong with parking them up for a few months every now and again, That's half the reason I have managed to keep hold of mine for the 10 years it will be this July. being able to half a break every now and then.
I heard you mention reducing the first stage, I have been doing the same and my set up doesn't seem to like it to small. I tried .6mm and it was very lean couldn't get the boost up past 18psi before the afr's went above 12.6. tried a .9 and that was a little better, i'm now at 24psi and It's ever so slightly lean again, 12.6, so the first stage is going back to standard 1mm.
He defo paid attention hes a cracking lad and hope he cab make it to the dyno day in april.
My intention is to try it at .8 first and see how it goes from there then ill adjust accordingly. Iv been what I would say getting false afr readings for a bit due to the air leak on carb so will be interesting to see what its like after this.
Thanks for the heads up matey.
received my throttle shaft seals courtesy of rtoc club shop today, must say what a quick turnaround good work
missed my bloody delivery from cgb though so gotta get the mrs go n pick it up tomorrow before she goes to work as i start before 7am when the sorting office opens.
turbo was sent back to my mate yesterday for a quick check over etc so should have that back next week and back on for that weekend
picked my parts up yesterday, so now i can fully rebuild the carb and as said even have the green shaft seals that never seem to get replaced
also as mentioned changing the dizzy and rotor plus a new set of plugs, will be dropping the oil and sticking new oil/fuel filters on there so all is nice and fresh.
turbo arrived at my mates place yesterday afternoon so fingers crossed we get a quick turnaround so i can get it back on asap.
will just be a matter of fine tuning the fuelling and setting boost at 23-24psi and then it will get it first trip out this year to donington park for the btcc in april followed by its overly long awaited trip back to wgt for a run on there hub dyno to see if we have gained any power