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    Re: Sid Dawn roller rockers and sleeved pushrods.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sid Dawn View Post
    update on the timing chain cover.....

    as the £150 is far to much for anyone (even me)...I've done a lot more thinking and may have a plan c....
    Excellent news.

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    Re: Sid Dawn roller rockers and sleeved pushrods.

    Quote Originally Posted by Logg View Post
    Excellent news.
    i feel the need to retard my timing a couple of degrees my power dies off around 6000ish.

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    Re: Sid Dawn roller rockers and sleeved pushrods.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Walker View Post
    i feel the need to retard my timing a couple of degrees my power dies off around 6000ish.
    Same here.

    Sid if you can get the covers done for around £100 I'll take one.

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    Re: Sid Dawn roller rockers and sleeved pushrods.

    I'm guna cut up a standard one....fit a sleeve..

    does anyone have a spare they would donate...for research..of course if it works out ok you will be first to have..lol..

    as I'm guna be using old covers price will be under £100...

    pics to follow

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    Re: Sid Dawn roller rockers and sleeved pushrods.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sid Dawn View Post
    I'm guna cut up a standard one....fit a sleeve..

    does anyone have a spare they would donate...for research..of course if it works out ok you will be first to have..lol..

    as I'm guna be using old covers price will be under £100...

    pics to follow

    Sid I am not in need of one as don't use a c1j but you are welcome to my spare timing chain cover to do what you like to it pm me your address will get it posted out early next week FOC
    Last edited by James5; 02-03-2013 at 21:49.

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    Re: Sid Dawn roller rockers and sleeved pushrods.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sid Dawn View Post
    I'm guna cut up a standard one....fit a sleeve..

    does anyone have a spare they would donate...for research..of course if it works out ok you will be first to have..lol..

    as I'm guna be using old covers price will be under £100...

    pics to follow
    Mines smacked outa shape now bud so no good to you

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    Re: Sid Dawn roller rockers and sleeved pushrods.

    I've got a spare you can have mate

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    Re: Sid Dawn roller rockers and sleeved pushrods.

    I'll see if I can get in contact with my fabricator that's on the missing list as I gave him three covers last year.

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    Re: Sid Dawn roller rockers and sleeved pushrods.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Walker View Post
    i feel the need to retard my timing a couple of degrees my power dies off around 6000ish.
    Tony your the perfect example as I know you've chafed your timing a few times.. How much easier would this be for us with SIDS cover?

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    Re: Sid Dawn roller rockers and sleeved pushrods.

    Sprocket is a bit ruff...but all sized on dia...just to give you some idea of room from face on veiw..



    https://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.p...pictureid=8254

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    Re: Sid Dawn roller rockers and sleeved pushrods.

    here's some pictures of a timing cover i made a few years ago for my old c1j, i tried to sell them for a £100 on the club and no one was interested
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    Re: Sid Dawn roller rockers and sleeved pushrods.

    It's down to how much is the hassle worth to me really... Iv never had to re-take one off to adjust the timing I can just imagine its a pain in the arse and I don't like pain in the arses.. I'm guessing its a case of people had to pay people to refit these to their running engines so they didn't see a point.. But now people are keeping there 5s for longer now. Eg me if its going to save time in the future I'm in.

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    Re: Sid Dawn roller rockers and sleeved pushrods.

    well when i timed my cam in i think it was around the 114 mark(but it could of been wrong), and when driving it was fairly useless turbo came on around 4500 then you could feel the cam come in around 5500 which felt like the turbo coming in twice it was strange but i didnt like the delivery. i thought maybe id got the timing wrong so thought id advance it, then doing it in a rush after work and had to drive it home i moved the timing the wrong way lol. so that was 1st attempt. second time i had to take it back quite a few degrees around 12 i think i tried (to take the initial adjustment out which was about 5 degrees, i was trying to see what fully advanced was like compared to the fully retarded id experienced) when id adjusted it the wrong way the car was idling quite lumpy and would barely produce any boost(which i think some members have blamed the turbo on before) thats pretty much where it sits now so i think its quite advanced and would like to retard it a couple of degrees, i think this showed in my power graph by loosing power higher up the rpm, but i was still impressed by the power/torque it made. Its either change my cam timing to suit my turbo or maybe a smaller exhaust housing to suit my engine/timing.
    Either way having an adjustable cover would of made it soooooooooo much easier, taking the cover off ruins the cork gasket and theres allways the chance of it leaking after you put it back together.

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    Re: Sid Dawn roller rockers and sleeved pushrods.

    Quote Originally Posted by turbo ted View Post
    here's some pictures of a timing cover i made a few years ago for my old c1j, i tried to sell them for a £100 on the club and no one was interested
    I don't even remember them ted - maybe more people running 285's now and doing it themselves hence the interest. They look good though

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    Re: Sid Dawn roller rockers and sleeved pushrods.

    Quote Originally Posted by turbo ted View Post
    here's some pictures of a timing cover i made a few years ago for my old c1j, i tried to sell them for a £100 on the club and no one was interested
    I remember Rob.

    Not sure why I didnt buy it at the time.

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    Re: Sid Dawn roller rockers and sleeved pushrods.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sid Dawn View Post
    I'm guna cut up a standard one....fit a sleeve..

    does anyone have a spare they would donate...for research..of course if it works out ok you will be first to have..lol..

    as I'm guna be using old covers price will be under £100...

    pics to follow
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Renault-5-...E:B:SS:GB:1123

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    Re: Sid Dawn roller rockers and sleeved pushrods.

    Quote Originally Posted by turbo ted View Post
    here's some pictures of a timing cover i made a few years ago for my old c1j, i tried to sell them for a £100 on the club and no one was interested
    I had one - and it is in my spares dept.

    And what are those pistons?

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    Re: Sid Dawn roller rockers and sleeved pushrods.

    Quote Originally Posted by TNT ANDY View Post
    I had one - and it is in my spares dept.

    And what are those pistons?
    wossner high comp pistons with the crowns machined off

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    Re: Sid Dawn roller rockers and sleeved pushrods.

    There was also someone else who made their own a few yrs ago and IIRC it had a viewing window. Quality was awesome. I forget who it was.

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    Re: Sid Dawn roller rockers and sleeved pushrods.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trevhib View Post
    There was also someone else who made their own a few yrs ago and IIRC it had a viewing window. Quality was awesome. I forget who it was.
    Turbo ted

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    Re: Sid Dawn roller rockers and sleeved pushrods.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trevhib View Post
    There was also someone else who made their own a few yrs ago and IIRC it had a viewing window. Quality was awesome. I forget who it was.
    I remember seeing that, but I thought someone followed it up with a comment about gt tuning? Did they ever make them?

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    Re: Sid Dawn roller rockers and sleeved pushrods.

    Quote Originally Posted by JRP View Post
    Turbo ted
    No, it was someone else Jon and it looked different to Teds. I can't remember who it was now.

    He definitely made it himself Dave as a one-off.

    He had a Tungy GTT in top condition IIRC.

    Anyway, it matters not.

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    Re: Sid Dawn roller rockers and sleeved pushrods.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trevhib View Post
    No, it was someone else Jon and it looked different to Teds. I can't remember who it was now.

    He definitely made it himself Dave as a one-off.

    He had a Tungy GTT in top condition IIRC.

    Anyway, it matters not.
    Used to be a guy called John over bb timings way in a real clean tungy, I think he was handy... Talking 6-7 years ago

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    Re: Sid Dawn roller rockers and sleeved pushrods.

    next batch rockers done..


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    Re: Sid Dawn roller rockers and sleeved pushrods.

    Oh dear, I think I've had a trouser mess.

    These are the STD Ratio Rockers aren't they Sid? They look like a quality piece of kit!

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    Re: Sid Dawn roller rockers and sleeved pushrods.

    Quote Originally Posted by Woznaldo View Post
    Oh dear, I think I've had a trouser mess.

    These are the STD Ratio Rockers aren't they Sid? They look like a quality piece of kit!

    yes mate standard set..with the sleeved rods in a head it looks like it could push a mountain..

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    Re: Sid Dawn roller rockers and sleeved pushrods.

    First timing cover done..



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    Re: Sid Dawn roller rockers and sleeved pushrods.

    Nice job Sid keep it up

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    Re: Sid Dawn roller rockers and sleeved pushrods.

    Get deposits first this time!

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    Re: Sid Dawn roller rockers and sleeved pushrods.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trevhib View Post
    Get deposits first this time!

    defently!!!! just out of interest, how many people have paid up for the rocker sets????

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    Re: Sid Dawn roller rockers and sleeved pushrods.

    Quote Originally Posted by r5_scotty View Post
    defently!!!! just out of interest, how many people have paid up for the rocker sets????

    7 sets sold...almost paid for too..

    by the end of next week 7 sets will be out there...

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    Re: Sid Dawn roller rockers and sleeved pushrods.

    made some of these up other day for David Clark.... will be making more soon if intrested send us a message..

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    Re: Sid Dawn roller rockers and sleeved pushrods.

    How much for the longer tappet adjusters? Could do with some for mine.

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    Re: Sid Dawn roller rockers and sleeved pushrods.

    yeah me too.... i had to file my rockers flat so i could put the nut underneath as my reprofiled cam had obviously had a fair bit taken off lol.

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    Re: Sid Dawn roller rockers and sleeved pushrods.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Walker View Post
    yeah me too.... i had to file my rockers flat so i could put the nut underneath as my reprofiled cam had obviously had a fair bit taken off lol.
    I did that too, when I didnt have the longer rods. what a pig to set up!!

    Now Sids made me these, I wont have to search everywhere for the 178mm rods.
    Last edited by *Yellow*; 22-03-2013 at 21:22.

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    Re: Sid Dawn roller rockers and sleeved pushrods.

    Mine are underneath too, but I didn't file down the rocker arm

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    Re: Sid Dawn roller rockers and sleeved pushrods.

    sweet

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    Re: Sid Dawn roller rockers and sleeved pushrods.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sid Dawn View Post
    made some of these up other day for David Clark.... will be making more soon if intrested send us a message..
    great idea these as i could only just get mine adjusted on my 270

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    Re: Sid Dawn roller rockers and sleeved pushrods.

    Quote Originally Posted by GT Josh View Post
    Mine are underneath too, but I didn't file down the rocker arm
    I just filed a bit away so the lock nut would sit flush.

    Longer adjusters is deffinetly a better/easier method

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    Re: Sid Dawn roller rockers and sleeved pushrods.

    I know mate when your fiddling with it. Scared if dropping the nut hahaha.

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    Re: Sid Dawn roller rockers and sleeved pushrods.

    The longer adjusters are just £20 deliverd..

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    Re: Sid Dawn roller rockers and sleeved pushrods.

    looking at doing these...10mm copper feeds for inlet manifold water...to turbo ect..

    stop them restrictions..

    https://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.p...pictureid=8386

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    Re: Sid Dawn roller rockers and sleeved pushrods.

    why not see how much you could do the following for? (not for me personally, just a few ideas)

    cam followers.
    adjustable cam vernier.
    oil pump cores?

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    Re: Sid Dawn roller rockers and sleeved pushrods.

    Cam follows would be good but there are a few processes to making them, like the case hardening for good wear resistance.

    I'd like to see a set with a DLC (diamond like carbon) coating as this has excellent wear resistance and super low friction! Still a relatively new process but achieving great things in many different applications.

    Not sure how a standard spec set or a DLC set would compare to an OE set for price? Isn't still 200 sheets for a set from Renault?

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    Re: Sid Dawn roller rockers and sleeved pushrods.

    Cam follower....depends on steel and how silly hard you want to go...not be anything near the £200 mark....prob £100 or less..


    https://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.p...pictureid=8390

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    Re: Sid Dawn roller rockers and sleeved pushrods.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sid Dawn View Post
    Cam follower....depends on steel and how silly hard you want to go...not be anything near the £200 mark....prob £100 or less..


    https://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.p...pictureid=8390
    They are 22 pound each at renault maybe more now. are you using solidworks to draw up these your work is amazing well done

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    Re: Sid Dawn roller rockers and sleeved pushrods.

    Quote Originally Posted by gtmatt View Post
    They are 22 pound each at renault maybe more now. are you using solidworks to draw up these your work is amazing well done

    yes mate Solidworks is the bomb...

    Guna 3d print 1 of these tomoz see how it fits...got an engine just for trying all this stuff out...

    All fits in same space just lifts pushrod up 7mm...and with most foke strugling with the nuts.... on adjusters this will be 2 birds with 1 stone...lol

    https://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.p...pictureid=8391

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    Re: Sid Dawn roller rockers and sleeved pushrods.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sid Dawn View Post
    yes mate Solidworks is the bomb...

    Guna 3d print 1 of these tomoz see how it fits...got an engine just for trying all this stuff out...

    All fits in same space just lifts pushrod up 7mm...and with most foke strugling with the nuts.... on adjusters this will be 2 birds with 1 stone...lol

    https://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.p...pictureid=8391
    use solidworks at are place.your a credit to the club mate job well done

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    Re: Sid Dawn roller rockers and sleeved pushrods.

    how much are the rockers? and would they be of benefit to a standard engine, turbo, cam setup ?

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