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    Re: My engine rebuild

    what do you mean by a lip? Like one you can feel with your finger () or like a little bit at the top that hasn't been honed?

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    Re: My engine rebuild

    Yes bud about 5mm hasn't been done.. I just need it explained in idiot terms as its got me thinking if its now machined wider what will happen to the pistons as they haven't been touched they will just have new rings.. Never done this before

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    Re: My engine rebuild

    im pretty sure the rings wont hit the lip as the rings dont go to the very top of the bore even thou the piston does if the lips not that bad it shouldnt effect the rings

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    Re: My engine rebuild

    It's the rings that go up and down the liner and the honing helps the rings seal and keep compression, the top ring on the piston is more than 5mm lower than the top of the piston so it should be fine

    The issue with liners is as far as I'm aware it's not a good idea to over hone them as it were, I'm sure it's fine to do it at least once tho and any machine shop worth it's salt won't re-hone a liner incorrectly i would have thought.

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    Re: My engine rebuild

    Oh it was Definatley only done the once next time and I'm sure there will be a next time I will renew them.. With me building this I didn't want to spend big bucks for me to get it wrong I will run this engine this year and then no doubt if I get bored which I will as I always do then I will spend the cash or just sell it and buy something different I still have a cossie itch I need to scratch

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    Re: My engine rebuild

    The cost of parts for cosworths scares me!! Lol

    i have a burton catalogue here, easy way to spend 20k

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    Re: My engine rebuild

    I have an eBay 5 so why not a eBay cossie lol the cossie would purely be a weekend thing baby no2 is on its way so the 5 just dosnt cut it anymore I can't have two babie seats in the 5. I want to do a full resto on a 3door I have just about enough to get a saph but 3doors what iv always wanted..

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    I have to agree with you woody i have always wanted a cossie a sierra one and a powerful mazda rx7 just for noise and did you get your 5 goin mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris View Post
    I have to agree with you woody i have always wanted a cossie a sierra one and a powerful mazda rx7 just for noise and did you get your 5 goin mate
    Not yet bud iv been to work since 5am then picked my girl up till the mrs comes home then iv got to hot water the car and get rid of all the snow then jack it up and get cold and wet dam it it will be fine I'm sure at work at 5am tomorrow too for some double bubble

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    Quote Originally Posted by R5MJH View Post
    im pretty sure the rings wont hit the lip as the rings dont go to the very top of the bore even thou the piston does if the lips not that bad it shouldnt effect the rings
    I just thought they would just rough them up a little like I said guys iv never seen it before but it all makes sense hope it works

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    Re: My engine rebuild

    What's the best color to paint the block up? Might just paint it white so I can see all the oil leaks probably black is hamerite ok? Just that I have a tin in the garage..

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    Re: My engine rebuild

    Hammerite is ****e!

    POR Engine enamel is ace

    did mine in black two years ago and it still looks fresh and shiny they do loads of colours also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTphil View Post
    Hammerite is ****e!

    POR Engine enamel is ace

    did mine in black two years ago and it still looks fresh and shiny they do loads of colours also.
    With the £25 I saved I guess I could stretch to a por engine paint.. Pink it is then

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTphil View Post
    Hammerite is ****e!

    POR Engine enamel is ace

    did mine in black two years ago and it still looks fresh and shiny they do loads of colours also.
    Did you get this off eBay phil?

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    I did mine in por 15 it is really good i bought mine of frost restorations but if its on ebay its called engine enamel yours would look good red being as you have red car or is that a bit much

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    Re: My engine rebuild

    I was thinking aluminium so you can see the oil pissing out lol

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    Re: My engine rebuild

    Frost restorations was only 20 mins away from my old house, so I just popped in and got a tin of said enamel.

    it's ace stuff, as long as the surface is free from oil and grease and it's dry it goes on with zero prep and the finish is pretty good also, just make sure you mask up all the areas where you don't want paint and don't leave it to dry on your hands

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    Re: My engine rebuild

    Will do I have had it cleaned already so no were like halfords then I wanted to crack on this week I recon I will get two hrs a day for the next two weeks.. So while I wait for parts I can paint and polish what's needed..

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    unfortunately only frost as far as I'm aware, order now and you should have it for Wednesday the snow isn't to bad here

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    What tin do you think I would need? I will need enough todo the block and box I think

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    Go for the larger one mate if i reamember rite its cheaper than buying two small ones plus if you run out its more down time

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    Free delivery from frost orders over £75 lol think I will get it off eBay

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    Re: My engine rebuild

    just to add in another option, I got some engine enamel off ebay - all good so far

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/125-ml-VQD...p2047675.l2557


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    Re: My engine rebuild

    Oooooh I like that :-)

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    Re: My engine rebuild

    Parts orderd from mike

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    Re: My engine rebuild

    £35 for a crank inspection and grind? That soun about right to you guys?

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    Re: My engine rebuild

    Quote Originally Posted by Nottswoody View Post
    £35 for a crank inspection and grind? That soun about right to you guys?
    Yep, Mike and Mick (Brighton Boys) AKA R5MJH, paid about £60 but this was including delivery. (dont think there one needed grinding)

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    Re: My engine rebuild

    Yer i had mine done 6months ago, was £40 for inspection and polish as it didnt need much. Was told it would be £9+vat a jounral if it needed grinding and polishing

    so your quote sounds good

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    Quote Originally Posted by gttjames View Post
    Yer i had mine done 6months ago, was £40 for inspection and polish as it didnt need much. Was told it would be £9+vat a jounral if it needed grinding and polishing

    so your quote sounds good
    Oh.... Oh.... As James said, if you do get the crank ground, then you'll need over sized bearings, get these from the machine place!

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    Re: My engine rebuild

    Took it into a different guy now left it with him a really nice guy he did my head a few months back.. All parts are coming from mike just need to let him know the outcome of the crank I was going to leave it as it seemed fine but mike gave great advise as usuall and said get it done right 1st time.. Really want to get this cracking on but the garage is way too cold lol.. Might paint the block tonight.. But then again the heating is on so its too easy to just stay in

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    Re: My engine rebuild

    crank should be good just for a polish really, That engine in my life got regular oil and filter changes etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by djinuk View Post
    crank should be good just for a polish really, That engine in my life got regular oil and filter changes etc
    I said it was out of a good block and the guy said leave it with me.. 105 yrs experience lol it's a house in nottingham with 3 generations there and a massive shed built down the side of his house.. Never seen so many machines in a garden.. I said I bet the neighbours love you he just laughed and said we've seen a few come and go over the years but they have special permission from the council as its been there since the house were built.. Pitty he is a mini specialist.

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    Dj did you say it had piston slap? Just that two bearings were badly scored but the crank seemed fine to me

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    Re: My engine rebuild

    Who are you using for engine work? Always good to know a local machine shop 👍

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    Re: My engine rebuild

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron View Post
    Who are you using for engine work? Always good to know a local machine shop 👍
    It's
    Walter s bates
    434, Westdale Lane
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    0115 960 4407
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    He dose everything boats planes all sorts he just won't mess about doing modifications (iv asked) car wise he said he messes more with minis.. I went to another place as above but it was a large engineering firm with employees so there was no love really.. I just like the idea of a family business..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nottswoody View Post
    It's
    Walter s bates
    434, Westdale Lane
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    Main phone:
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    I can not praise this dude enough he ploished my crank for £20 says its been ground before but is fine.. His works great and £20 cheap as chips.. Will be sending my head to him in a coupke of weeks great guy.. All parts for build now orderd from our man mike and I even cheekily bought the lightend flywheel I said I wouldn't... SHE IS GOING TO KILL ME!! oh she will be so

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nottswoody View Post
    He dose everything boats planes all sorts he just won't mess about doing modifications (iv asked) car wise he said he messes more with minis.. I went to another place as above but it was a large engineering firm with employees so there was no love really.. I just like the idea of a family business..

    good lad!! supporting a smaller business he sounds helpful and cheap. we all like cheap

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    Quote Originally Posted by r5_scotty View Post
    good lad!! supporting a smaller business he sounds helpful and cheap. we all like cheap
    Believe me bud he's very very busy man I saw about 50 heads and 20 blocks and cranks he dose everything and the good news is his lads are learning the trade.. It's perfect family business really.. We will always need engineers..

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    AGHHHHHHH missed the bloody postie.. Got to wait for all my goodies from the main man mike thanks mike your a star!!!

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    Re: My engine rebuild

    Right so trip to halfords tomorrow..
    So what do I need?
    Locktight black sealer?
    Locktight for the flywheel nuts
    Feeler gauges.. Now it says it has metric and imperial so which do I need?
    Cam lube
    Torque wrench what will be the highest lbs?? 80 for HG bolts?

    Anything else? I get all the parts Monday night so it's time to crack on..

    Thanks guys

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    Re: My engine rebuild

    Metric gauges do you have a haynes manual

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris View Post
    Metric gauges do you have a haynes manual
    Yes bud been reading for a while now.. Bored of reading just want to crack on

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    Lol gets boreing after a while and then your torque wrench should go above 100 normaley they do have u got a halfords card

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris View Post
    Lol gets boreing after a while and then your torque wrench should go above 100 normaley they do have u got a halfords card
    No bud.. It's ok I have £50 vouches from work for being a good boy

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    Thats good as a christmas bonus?

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    Re: My engine rebuild

    Nope Christmas bonus paid for the bits but ffs don't tell the mrs lol i get vouches for achievements I think it's every 5 recommendations from my manager.. I stock take three warehouses for our finance dept.. So when I get them out the **** I get praised quite a bit for just doing my job... At the minute thankfully business is booming.. Every nurofen or strepsil anyone's ever had iv had something todo with it somewhere along the line..

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    Thats a good idea its little thank you like that makes it all worth while sometimes. On the other hand it makes you a giant ass kisser

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nottswoody View Post
    Every nurofen or strepsil anyone's ever had iv had something todo with it somewhere along the line..
    So it was YOU who changed all the nurofen for anti-psychotic medicine

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris View Post
    Thats a good idea its little thank you like that makes it all worth while sometimes. On the other hand it makes you a giant ass kisser
    If I have to kiss a few asses to get 200bhp so be it lol

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