Re: UK`s First FWD Outlaw Shootout

**Markey Mark (BD)** · 14-02-2011, 19:39

Originally Posted by Dave Reed

But then you might show up some of the big boys toy's mate

I'm suprised they didn't have engine size'd related class's?? IMO no point entering if you have less than a 1800cc turbo motor.. I feel it's only for the big boys this event..

Then if i beat the top runners with less power and weight should that be a disadvatage to me, i think not. To be honest if they choose to start with a heavy car which can create more power why should i be penalised.

I had a look at some of the runners, should be able to beat few of them i think but all depends how this engine works.

Not having moan, just putting my thoughts across.

**rs250nut** · 14-02-2011, 20:37

Originally Posted by Dave Reed

But then you might show up some of the big boys toy's mate

I'm suprised they didn't have engine size'd related class's?? IMO no point entering if you have less than a 1800cc turbo motor.. I feel it's only for the big boys this event..

I'm going to enter hopefully and I'm only 1675cc? On a serious note whats cc got to do with anything? Plus dash not got anything to do with it? Mine weighs a fecking ton or around 23kgs. I would still enter whether or not they had a weigh limit.

**Rob@Backyardracing** · 15-02-2011, 00:06

Ok well after this evenings good sparring session and pad riot im feeling kinda chilled now, if i seemed all up tight yesturday...

Im going to arranging another meeting with the organisers over the interior.. Im happy to have no rules at all on this, but it goes to a vote.. If im honest aslong as everyone meets the weight i dont care if its a garden shed going down the strip..

Regarding CC and class.. this is a tough one as its hard to make every car happy... What we are doing is breaking down the sponsors so that for example the fastest N/A would take home a prize fund + trophy, same goes with fastest Nos, supercharged... Also dont forget there is prizes to win just for fastest 60ft, reaction etc..

I understand not everyone is going to be happy about the rules but we will try to amend what we can to make as many peeps happy as possible..

Thanks for the feedback on this guys, keep it coming....

**Adey aka Ewok** · 15-02-2011, 13:02

Might wait and see if any supercharged cars enter and do it just for the crack, not exactly going to set the world alight with my times tho

**Dave Reed** · 15-02-2011, 18:30

Originally Posted by rs250nut

I'm going to enter hopefully and I'm only 1675cc? On a serious note whats cc got to do with anything? Plus dash not got anything to do with it? Mine weighs a fecking ton or around 23kgs. I would still enter whether or not they had a weigh limit.

Surely if CC had nothing to do with it, why are you building a 1675cc motor?

As the old saying goes "there aint no replacement for displacement"

Also regarding the dash, i'm sure I said if your car makes the weight, what's the dash got to do with it? Maybe it's its to do with adding weight in better area's as to improve traction etc, i duno???

Please also don't take my opinions the wrong way, i'm just asking why certain rules have been put in place, as to me, they seem a little strange

Rob,
Great work on this

I think this event is a great idea, it's really cool that people are starting to realise that us FWD boys are just as serious as the RWD/4WD cars.

**rs250nut** · 15-02-2011, 19:51

[QUOTE=Dave Reed;202149]Surely if CC had nothing to do with it, why are you building a 1675cc motor?

As the old saying goes "there aint no replacement for displacement"

Also regarding the dash, i'm sure I said if your car makes the weight, what's the dash got to do with it? Maybe it's its to do with adding weight in better area's as to improve traction etc, i duno???

Because I started with an over bored 1600cc motor

" there ain't no replacement for displacement " go tell that to the BMW f1 engineers of the early eighties, 1.5 1300hp 70psi boost. Some thing about VE would be more appropriate. Please don't take this the wrong way, just a little bit of light hearted banter.

**Adey aka Ewok** · 20-02-2011, 20:17

Any one in a Renault thinking of joining up?

**Markey Mark (BD)** · 20-02-2011, 20:25

Originally Posted by Adey aka Ewok

Any one in a Renault thinking of joining up?

I am possibly mate

**Adey aka Ewok** · 21-02-2011, 16:13

Hmmm anyone got any slicks on 15s they wana lend out?

**Rob@Backyardracing** · 26-02-2011, 08:51

We now have Frank from the Drive shaft shop USA with a big sponsor of £1000, the prize pot is now over 3K.....

Thanks to all these sponsors and also scoff for keeping the site up to date

http://www.outlawshootout.co.uk/sponsors.php

Winner will now take £1500
Runner up at least £500
Loosing semi finalists at least £200

**rs250nut** · 26-02-2011, 09:17

Quality, who managed to wangle that?

**Markey Mark (BD)** · 28-02-2011, 18:45

Right i've just bit the bullet, the first Renault 5 gt turbo is entered! ME!!!!!

**5teve L** · 28-02-2011, 19:21

Originally Posted by Markey Mark (BD)

Right i've just bit the bullet, the first Renault 5 gt turbo is entered! ME!!!!!

**Scoff** · 28-02-2011, 19:30

Originally Posted by Markey Mark (BD)

Right i've just bit the bullet, the first Renault 5 gt turbo is entered! ME!!!!!

It helps with motivation to finish the car if you've committed yourself to an event

Good stuff, make sure you show up all those Honda's

(sorry rob

)

**Markey Mark (BD)** · 28-02-2011, 19:40

Originally Posted by Scoff

It helps with motivation to finish the car if you've committed yourself to an event

Good stuff, make sure you show up all those Honda's

(sorry rob

)

Yeah it does mate, this also gives me abit of time too to sort the niggles i may have with the car too.

I'll give it a go mate, prob not beat all those Hondas!

**Rob@Backyardracing** · 28-02-2011, 22:36

We might be able to build a high HP honda motor but dont forgot alot of us are on stock boxs ( i aint got the spare $10,000 needed for the gear id like)... we would have to nurse the cars.. as for the k20`s them boxs are ****ter than ****.. Richs box in that FTO is fancy but his new motor made 750lb and 957hp.. dout his box will hold that torque imo, plus we all racing on the sat in the HKS... anything can happen..

Dont forget its first to the line, if you can cut a good reaction on the line and get out of the box clean you have a good chance of taking out the higher power slower of the line cars..

Scoff is insane if he doesnt show up.. hes got a good chance of that 1500 cash and whats £100 these days compared to the amount of cash we chuck at these cars...

Great to have you on board tho mark...

**Adey aka Ewok** · 01-03-2011, 15:32

So tempting, the next few weeks will decide if I can enter. Are there a maximum amount of places available?

**Rob@Backyardracing** · 15-03-2011, 19:41

Forum now up and running...

http://www.outlawshootout.co.uk/forum/index.php

**soapymech** · 15-03-2011, 20:14

Originally Posted by Rob@Backyardracing

Forum now up and running...

http://www.outlawshootout.co.uk/forum/index.php

go go marky smash them hondas

**5teve L** · 26-04-2011, 14:42

Just seen the tdi boys rolled out a 9.95 @ 145 this weekend, gonna be some fast cars this year

**dave r5** · 04-05-2011, 22:54

id so love to have a go at this just for the hell of it.

**Neak** · 22-05-2011, 01:18

Call me naive/stupid whatever but is this going to be open for the public to spectate????

seem to have it in my head that it isn't, silly I know but yeah.... hmmm

**Rob@Backyardracing** · 22-05-2011, 19:40

Yes its open to the public, the event is taking place on a RWYB day....

**Hi 5** · 22-05-2011, 22:20

Originally Posted by 5teve L

Just seen the tdi boys rolled out a 9.95 @ 145 this weekend, gonna be some fast cars this year

tdi boy santa pod ptm show last week did 10 ft all day not that fast then

**Rob@Backyardracing** · 23-05-2011, 07:28

Originally Posted by Hi 5

tdi boy santa pod ptm show last week did 10 ft all day not that fast then

Yep dif broke....

Mind you Cressi isnt doing to badly, 10.7 now and on a completely stock k20 motor and box with just a gt35.... Not be long till hes bending rods.. Saying that tho they go 9s on stock motors over the pond....

**Hi 5** · 23-05-2011, 22:12

Originally Posted by Rob@Backyardracing

Yep dif broke....

Mind you Cressi isnt doing to badly, 10.7 now and on a completely stock k20 motor and box with just a gt35.... Not be long till hes bending rods.. Saying that tho they go 9s on stock motors over the pond....

not too far behind c1j power lol

**philr5t** · 20-08-2011, 14:04

I managed to get tomorrow off work so I'm gonna pop up with my missus and daughter and watch this and support Markey mark I know mike phase 1 16v and Tony aka Fishead are going anyone else from the club popping up any ideas how much it is to get in as a spectator

**Scoff** · 20-08-2011, 15:33

keep an eye out for CPL. He went 9.7@151 today, moving the goal posts yet further away.

**Markey Mark (BD)** · 20-08-2011, 15:50

Originally Posted by Scoff

keep an eye out for CPL. He went 9.7@151 today, moving the goal posts yet further away.

Hmmm, i can safely say i'll have slight issue beating that car!

I'm just going for the crack really, nice to get some runs on a well preped track too. Never know may make the top 16 if there are few breakages or by miricale the 5 does some sort of 11sec time. Heres hoping!

**WADDIE** · 20-08-2011, 15:55

lol...my word thats quick!

**rs250nut** · 20-08-2011, 19:40

Originally Posted by philr5t

I managed to get tomorrow off work so I'm gonna pop up with my missus and daughter and watch this and support Markey mark I know mike phase 1 16v and Tony aka Fishead are going anyone else from the club popping up any ideas how much it is to get in as a spectator

Sweet as chaps, I shall see you all tomorrow with missus in tow

**5teve L** · 21-08-2011, 15:37

Any reports back yet ?

**rs250nut** · 21-08-2011, 20:50

The backyard lads when well and showed the car has massive potential beating there previous p.b with a 10.6 pass on their first shakedown. Brilliant day out meeting up with a few old faces and for once being sober and remembering something about the day. Now where is that welder..............

**5teve L** · 22-08-2011, 14:10

Richard B wrote

Awesome day - thats to all the cars that turned up and commiseration to all the ones that failed to arrive, trying too hard in testing in the run up to the event.

Overall Winner : Adam Buckley £1500
Runner up : Allan Duthie £500
Loosing Semi Finalists Neil Knight, Andy Nichols £200

Quickest ET - Adam Buckley - 10.5132 - £150
Quickest NA ET - Alvis Moronta - 11.2863 - £150
Quickest Supercharged ET - Douglas Gemmell 11.0322 - £150
Quickest Nitrous Only Powered Car ET - Paul Bargate - £150
Quickest Reaction Time - Allan Duthie - 0.1584 - £100

Fastest 60' Time - Douglas Gemmell 1.6036 - £100
Fastest 1/8 MPH - Yasir Dar 115.97mph - £100
Fastest 1/4 MPH - Andy Nichols 146.28 mph - £100

Number 1 Qualifier - Andy Nichols £100
First 150mph car - No winner - carries over to next year.

**Scoff** · 22-08-2011, 15:59

Andy Nicholls managed a 10.2 @ 150mph showing there is life in the euro's yet, but alas he got a red light on that pass. It would have been enough for him to win.

**BluntyR5GTT** · 22-08-2011, 16:42

how did markey mark get on? did he manage to beat his pb?

**Markey Mark (BD)** · 22-08-2011, 17:17

Originally Posted by BluntyR5GTT

how did markey mark get on? did he manage to beat his pb?

Lets just say i didn't do myself proud at all

Car didn't perform what-so-ever, think combination of lack of boost (could only get 20psi out external) and turbine housing little too big. My burnouts and launchs were crap too, every run was crap.

**Rob@Backyardracing** · 22-08-2011, 17:21

felt a bit bad, we knocked him out

would of much prefered a vauxhall, hey ho

was a funny one for us, as we was babying the car off the line to save the gearbox/shafts, and pulling 1.9x 60ft`s most passes, which needless to say is not good enough in that sort of coompetition, and alas we got knocked out next round by a blue corsa, both of us ran 11.1x, but his R/T was better, and he took the win.
we went 137mph too, with only a 11.1

so after that we had nothing to loose, so turned the launch control on, but some base settings into it, and went 10.63@136 first attemp, literally 15 mins after getting knocked out

cutting a 1.66 60ft, which would of easily took the win from the blue corsa, oh well.

cracking event though, some really interesting cars, great mixed field

**BluntyR5GTT** · 22-08-2011, 17:21

your joking mate

was the spring too hard on the external ? i think you might be ok with that rear with some more boost, what times did you get mate ?

**5teve L** · 22-08-2011, 17:23

Originally Posted by Markey Mark (BD)

Lets just say i didn't do myself proud at all

Car didn't perform what-so-ever, think combination of lack of boost (could only get 20psi out external) and turbine housing little too big. My burnouts and launchs were crap too, every run was crap.

Nothing like being honest with yourself Mark... all year to set up the red monster though

**5teve L** · 22-08-2011, 17:25

Originally Posted by Scoff

Andy Nicholls managed a 10.2 @ 150mph showing there is life in the euro's yet, but alas he got a red light on that pass. It would have been enough for him to win.

You tempted for the next one Chris ?

**Markey Mark (BD)** · 22-08-2011, 17:29

Originally Posted by Rob@Backyardracing

felt a bit bad, we knocked him out

Its ok mate, the better car won

I got off line a little better when up against you (not best still) but missed second gear so i gave up after that.

**Rob@Backyardracing** · 22-08-2011, 17:32

Originally Posted by Markey Mark (BD)

Its ok mate, the better car won

I got off line a little better when up against you (not best still) but missed second gear so i gave up after that.

yeah noticed you launched better

get a d16 honda built you know u wanna

**Rob@Backyardracing** · 22-08-2011, 17:40

Originally Posted by Scoff

Andy Nicholls managed a 10.2 @ 150mph showing there is life in the euro's yet, but alas he got a red light on that pass. It would have been enough for him to win.

yeah flying on that run it was

gotta give credit to the TDI boys though, they wrecked there ppg dog box on the saturday, tore all the teeth off the crown wheel and pinion, and only had a standard gearbox with them for a spare, they wasnt up for putting it n, as they didnt think it would last 1 pass, after a bit of bullying they went for it, started the gearbox change at 9pm saturday, stripped both boxes down and made 1 out of 2, using the diff out the ppg box, got it fitted and tested by around 2am, was a crazy night

next day they stripped 2nd gear on the first qualifier pass, and managed to limp through all the other rounds with a gear missing, (having to over rev 1st gear then shift into 3rd) and took the win, still running 10.4x@144mph iirc

**Scoff** · 22-08-2011, 17:42

Originally Posted by 5teve L

You tempted for the next one Chris ?

No steve, I'll leave all that to the competative guys. But I would have liked to have gone and watched this one, except I realised on Friday night that I had booked go-karting in Teeside on Sunday

**Markey Mark (BD)** · 22-08-2011, 17:50

Originally Posted by Rob@Backyardracing

yeah noticed you launched better

get a d16 honda built you know u wanna

No its ok mate, still like to stick with a Euro shell even though i had to weight it down with 42kg of weights!

Think that didn't help my times too

**phase i 16 v turbo** · 22-08-2011, 19:23

A good day out. Nice too catch up with a few RTOC members and meet some old friends from years back.

**Markey Mark (BD)** · 22-08-2011, 19:27

Originally Posted by phase i 16 v turbo

A good day out. Nice too catch up with a few RTOC members and meet some old friends from years back.

Cheers for popping down with the bits mate, thankfully never needed them but always worth being prepared.

Think its time you stuck a car together mate and had a go, you got enough spares there to build a car up!

**phase i 16 v turbo** · 22-08-2011, 19:30

Originally Posted by Markey Mark (BD)

Cheers for popping down with the bits mate, thankfully never needed them but always worth being prepared.

Think its time you stuck a car together mate and had a go, you got enough spares there to build a car up!

Would be good fun. I enjoyed watching you, keeping the flag flying for the 8v. Always a pleasure to help and support. When is the next outing.

**Markey Mark (BD)** · 22-08-2011, 19:33

Originally Posted by phase i 16 v turbo

Would be good fun. I enjoyed watching you, keeping the flag flying for the 8v. Always a pleasure to help and support. When is the next outing.

Few of us popping along to this one

https://www.rtoc.org/boards/showthread.php?t=23499

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