Just the manifold as far as I know. Why any good to you ?Originally Posted by Markey Mark (BD)
Just the manifold as far as I know. Why any good to you ?
Got one already mate
Pistons out of the 19 now ready to send off to Scoff to be dished
Will try to collect a few more smaller parts over the next few weeks but I may have to slow down on the bigger stuff till after christmas now
Will strip the clio lump down over the next few weeks & see if the crank & block are ok in that.. fingers crossed !
Small update, hope to get a CR of about 8.5:1 from skimming the tops of the pistons after speaking to Chris, also on the lookout for a bigger turbo as well, not sure whether to try a 200sx, GTiR or get one custom made by CR...something the size of a GT28RS or 2871 maybe ?
Once the pistons come back I'll order some rings, cambelt etc ready to start the build. Then strip the clio lump down & hone it ready for the fresh rings & drill the block for the oil return.
I am suprised you haven't got those bit's already hanging about matey ready for the rebuild that's unlike you.
That's good news with the compression on the OE pistons being skimmed aswell
I am suprised you haven't got those bit's already hanging about matey ready for the rebuild that's unlike you.
That's good news with the compression on the OE pistons being skimmed aswell
Yeah, I've been umming & arring over the CR & pistons really so held off on a few parts.
Should be able to start the build soon, will strip the other block & take it to the machine shop to get cleaned up & lightly honed, will also get them to drill the oil return at the same time.
Update as I had some parts turn up today.
Volvo alt brackets, 200SX T28 & pistons.
Oh I love it when parts come in the post
Did you check out to see if there are any differences in the inlet's on the clio lump and the 19 lump
Nah not yet, been in all day bored, had a fiddle with the T28 & a fumble with the pistons......Oh I love it when parts come in the post
Did you check out to see if there are any differences in the inlet's on the clio lump and the 19 lump
Clio 16v inlet is slightly shorter on the throttle body end than r19 and Williams.
The throttle bodies are interchangeable and slightly different how the airfilter mounts, Clio bolts on, r19 has a hose.
Last edited by Matt@CodeRedMotorsports; 06-01-2011 at 16:36.
I'm totally pissed off now, really feel like giving up on the whole thing.
Stripped the 2nd engine today only to find it's essentially scrap as well
I nearly feckingI tell you, how much bad luck can I have
I've saved the cams & lifters & a few little bits from the engine but the head is shot & the bores on the block are scored so no good for standard pistons at all
A few more of the mess...
TBH I've had enough now mate, I think I will get a C1J into the Raider & sell it.
Your joking mate, i can't believe you've had 3 engines that are almost shot now.
I wonder if R5 Rich has an engine still, he's been breaking a few Clios so my be worth a try mate.
If you got a block would you be able to build and engine out of all the spares?
Yep, a C1J & 2 **** F7P's, really fed up.
If the block only needed a hone ( the one I have will be ok with an overbore) I have a spare head, cams, crank & pistons & rods etc.
Or I bite the bullet & buy forgies & overbore the block I have..
Not sure if someones trying to tell me something though, maybe I should quit before I spend any more on it
If you could find a block thats decent enough think you'll be back on track, prob the cheapest and easiest solution.
Know how you feel though mate, its a right piss take when everyhting you buy ends up being kanckered and it feels like it always hits deadend.
Thing is, I couldn't see anything in the bores so feck knows what happened, it's deffo had something rattling around in there
Looking at the head something deffinately hit it but could it of been damage from a previous blow-up.Thing is, I couldn't see anything in the bores so feck knows what happened, it's deffo had something rattling around in there
Is the piston marked on the outer edge, bit hard to tell in the pic? Looks abit like what ever hit the head has caught the piston abit (poss) which in turn has marked bores alittle
Bores aren't that bad but I don't want to chance it smoking if they don't come out with a hone, which I don't think one will as I could feel a couple of lines with my finger nail.
I will take a closer look tomorrow, TBH I was so pee'd off earlier I just stripped everything down off it & shoved it under the sheeting again.
Robbie may have a block for me to use now as well which is a bonus.
Mark, there are more piccies in the F7P folder in my profile.
Thats cool, maybe worth giving it a hone and seeing if they did come out. If not then as you say Rob has a spare for you so least you got a back up then.
mate that is ****ing ****ty, on the upside the turbo looks nice
bloody hell fella i thought i had crap luck , chin up am sure u can sort it
Yeah, I may take it to the machine shop & see what they say, it's this one I'm worried about.
is there any other pistons you could use if you were to re-bore the block? Like some other renault ones rather than buying forge?
It's getting hold of just the pistons though Gary...
How much you looking for forge jobbies then?
Iro £500
yeah thought it would be around that
I want to stick with the machined pistons if I can or it's a waste of mine & Scoffs time with messing around with them...
But I can go 83 or 84mm IIRC, standard is 82 I think
Oh yeah forgot about themso its hone the block you have or source another block if that ones too badly scored? Hopfuly it isnt. really want to see this going matey, its got to be time for your luck to change now.
I have a couple of options so we'll have to see, time & money aren't on my side at the mo !Oh yeah forgot about them
Best pull your finger out for this rr day then
Best pull your finger out for this rr day then
Will try to pick up a block off Robbie & also have one in Oxford for £15 so hopefully one or both will be good !
Also ordered some rings, bearings & bottom end gasket kit from Mike so I can finally get on with the build once I have had the block cleaned & the oil drain drilled at the machine shop...
Little update as I picked some parts up off Mike, also thanks to Robbie for the block, fingers crossed I have enough parts now to build a good block up..
Last edited by 5teve L; 18-01-2011 at 21:26.
Looking good glad to see things are finally moving forward for you
Top darts good luck bud.
keep a t it
will be worth the effort and grief in the end
Ordered a new set of core plugs today, also going to go out & stick the bare block into the car to try to work out if I can chop the 2 mounts I have to make a GTX wannabe since the GTX is now NLA & like rocking horse poo to find....
Not sure if I should give the bores a glaze bust with a honing tool myself or not, is it something you can mess up ?
Machine shop will charge me around £160 to clean the block, hone the bores, drill the oil return & build the bottom end with the parts I've bought.....
Steve, I can pop over on my lunch break in a mo if you want a hand getting a block into the car
Personally I'd let them do the de-glaze, £160 isn't a bad price at all really concidering the work they'll be doing.
Also saves you buying a tool you'll realistically only use a few times, it's not difficult to do but can get messy with all the oil flying about which you'd then have to clean up
Well James & I did a dummy build on the F7P earlier (cheers buddy) I think the GTT mount will be useable once drilled out & chopped down a bit on the left hand side, may have to be shimmed out, couldn't tell as I had a stud in the way on the block
Gave me inspiration though...
Looked good seeing it all in place not much space at the back for the turbo downpipe / elbow but bonnet closes no probs.
Makes me think should I go clio route and do the same but in a xeros grey clio or williams. Need you to finish yours before I decide
Last edited by James5; 20-01-2011 at 16:54.
Little bit of progress from the shed today
Honed the bores, re-fitted the oil squirters & crank with new main bearings. Need to get a 1/2" NPT tap for the oil drain into block & then fit new rings & big end bearings & the bottom end is pretty much built.
Been using this to assemble the bottom end, excellent stuff & protects the bearings better than just oil on 1st start up
Also drilled the GTT engine bracket to fit the F7P, it's not pretty as I had to drill a couple of holes (drilled the wrong place on one
Slowly making progress, oil drain now fitted, just need to fit the rings & then I can drop the pistons in & thats the bottom end sorted
Fitted the rings, dropped the pistons in & torqued the bottom end today, just need to fit the oil pick up & the sump & then bottom end is ready to seal up
Looking the good matey, good to see progress is now going in the right direction, can't wait to see this finished.
So what you doing online get back out there and finish that bottom end ofyour getting as slow as Phil
Seal the sump of, and cover the top of the block and job done then await yout top end parts
Last edited by James5; 08-02-2011 at 16:08.
Yeah, you make it sound easy buddy
I just hope it all works ok when I'm finished
Top stuff steve.
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