whichever way you look at it, maxing out 750s is good power
just don't break it now....
whichever way you look at it, maxing out 750s is good power
just don't break it now....
I know, the motor is sold too...really excited now for the b18 next year.....
Good stuff Rob, graph looks good too. You must be happy with that
Be happy when im revving to 11k + and carry that torq all the way...Originally Posted by Spooky
Good stuff Rob, graph looks good too. You must be happy with that
500hp is the new 200hp
Should have said Rob i have a set of 1000's here. Hope all gos well for you boys at the weekend.
cheers lad, Paul at TDI had a set of 1200s on the self that he was happy for us to stick on but we dont want to remap the whole car, plus then we will just keep pushing it more.. lol.. need to leave it be....i think id sooner up fuel pressure first...
Be happy when im revving to 11k + and carry that torq all the way...
Can not wait to see that in the flesh, only a matter of time
Awesome stuff Rob, glad things seem to be going well bud. Hope to catch up with you at an event soon.
Back home allready with a beer, a light wallet and 400miles clocked up on a round trip to the pod... Nothing to sereious but cant race it so packed up, came home and decided to call it a day and pull out the series for rest of year...
What happened to the old girl mate?
Unsure at mo mate.. just shoved it in garage for now got a pizza and a cold one.... need a weekend now car free, might cut the lawn tomoz...
Know how you feel mate.Unsure at mo mate.. just shoved it in garage for now got a pizza and a cold one.... need a weekend now car free, might cut the lawn tomoz...
Well stripped the honda today, it looks like the head has lifted... What you say????? yes it looks like the head has lifted!!!... you can see where the gas has been blowing right across the head in all directions to the edge... Seems like that bull**** term ive heard all my life from tuners is true! when i thought it was an excuse for a head gasket to go as you cant tune a car!!!..
There is nothing at all on the map/logs to indicate anything odd... AFR`s good, our total ign was low anyway.. Seems like at 35+ psi ARP head bolts may be needed...
what bolts/size do you use at the moment?
oh dog **** ones the OE, m10`s fine or of that nature....
knowing rob he'll have some long wood screws in there ..
Did i tell you i drained my oil into your trophy today??? i just didnt have anything at hand ............
pretty small then, can you go bigger?
You could yes if your prepered to re drill... its easier to go arp.. Peeps are trapping over 150mph running over 45psi with this size bolt on the D motor.. no point re inventing the wheel if you get me mate... on the b18 ill go direct to studs and arps etc as i do intended to run that amount of boost in time..
Well looks like Speedfactory have been out at it again with there B18 outlaw car (these are the same guys that built the d16 i posted up earlier in thread)... Seems like this b18 is one of the more basic builds out the outlaw group, still running the hondata s300 piggy back, oh and yet another precision 72 billet unit pulling the numbers in....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUbOfV3cIQY
oh and 179mph trap!! yes, 179mph
must be another one o them extreme down hill dragstrips they have in the statesoh and 179mph trap!! yes, 179mph
yeah must be
what do you reckon, about twice your power?yeah must be
more than that id say. i would expect ~1200hp.... its no flyweight
is weight making much difference at those terminals? You must need something like 400hp just to drive at 179mph
im sure you know if it does or not
i would of thought so, top speed no, but how quickly it will reach that speed i think weight plays a big part on. i think the weight plays a bigger part in the 1st 1/8th mile than the 2nd 1/8th of the track though, hence the flyweight n/a cars are very good upto the 1/8th, but make no mph ..
im sure you know if it does or not
i would of thought so, top speed no, but how quickly it will reach that speed i think weight plays a big part on. i think the weight plays a bigger part in the 1st 1/8th mile than the 2nd 1/8th of the track though, hence the flyweight n/a cars are very good upto the 1/8th, but make no mph ..
Think about this.
Assume a GTT weighs 2Kg and has 200hp, it has enough power to push through the air a sniff over 140mph, but how fast would it go before it didn't have enough traction to drive through the air? (assume no lift).
im sure there is a formula to calculate tractive effort vs drag...
and with a full size car weighing 2kg, even with 200hp, i bet it couldnt top 40mph
without breaking traction.
but my argument would be that a lightweight car is not slower through the traps becasuse its broke traction, after all, there not spinning through the traps.
as for breaking traction in the lower gears, i thought you may be have a point, and maybe the heavier car would make better 1/8th times, but it never happens in reality, and i think thats because its breaking traction due to high G force, and not drag as it would at high speed
wow, thats fast !
Is that the turbo your going to use Rob?
sadly not, there $3595
and we tend to break things too, that would be upsetting
Cant you get a ebay copy Rob?
not with the billet compressor ron, im sure there are 72mm inducer units about on ebay, but weve broke a few ebay turbos now, and with us needing a degree of reliability in the series, we cant risk the ebay turbos really, there too hit and miss, the last one we had literally lasted 1 event
I can't remember, did you look at BW turbos?
yes andy, thats probably what we are going with. s372, journal. cheap units, reasonable quality, and are rebuildable, dont seem to be as good at high pressure ratios as these new fangled billet compressors which are doing the rounds now, but still have made some big numbers/traps on honda motors
What about the 6765 billet, can be had for £700 and have been known to make 900 whp, I suppose your after alot more though
it's a shame they won't publish compressor maps for those.
yeah ive seen some dynos from the mitsi 4g63 boys making big numbers on those blowers, but they run really crazy boost to do it.
the 6767 is a possable (t4 only), we think we will go t4 divided flange on the new motor, most of the big stuff (72mm+) is t4, and we cant see ever dropping turbo size.
I know its pretty bollocks tbh, having to go on other peoples experiences, lucky **** loads of people with hondas use them. Even the actual wheel sizes are hard enough to find.
I remember trying to find data on the 6767 billet, I was wasting my time, nothing but no-nothing yanks giving their 2p
I just looked up that borg warner compressor rob's talking about, that looks tasty.
Its physicaly a big ass turbo not to mention the 101mm wheel inside.
the 6767 is the t4 version i think?
the 6765 comes in t3.
maybe the lack of maps is something to do with garrett, as precision only modify the turbos, they are actually garrett items (chra at least), marketing reasons maybe
don't you think it's fantastic then that they call themselves "precision turbo's" without offering up any evidence of that precision ? that'll be an oxymoron
From what I have read recently precision dont have anything to do with garrett anymore, but maybe like Scoff said earlier the interweb is a minefield
oh ok, maybe they manufacture there own chra`s now then
On another subject I have some acl main bearings that might be of some use to you.
And another B18 in the 8s running s300... 8.81@173mph.. there all coming out the wood work now...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IDbUMFeeEM
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