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[quote= Do you think its possible that Iran and N Korea etc want nucleor wepons because we have them?
As for ythe invasion of Iraq I totally agree, that was down to Tony Blair and I would like to see him face charges of War Crimes. Parliament let us down big style on that one. A more balanced "hung" parliament might have prevented that disaster.[/quote]
nout to lol at there buddy, russels comment is fair and has a lot people thinking the same. blair unfortunaly, Unlawfully sent troops it to another country to fight.Originally Posted by Kenobi
he has commited war crimes ....
This country is on its knees because of namby pamby politics. They ordered a a portion of kick ass and we fed it them.
I dont think troops should be there when we can hit people with scorpion missiles from the comfort of our armchairs.
at one time britain ruled 2/3 of the globe today i cant climb any more than two steps up a ladder without a ****ing safty harness why ?
because some eurobrat told us so
regardless of who wins the election understand that the working man in the street will allways fund everything through more tax
i dont like any of the partys policys id like to beable to vote no confidence
Why is it ok for the SNP in scotland to be and the welsh national asssembly wanting independance but mention the the BNP and your a nazi? has nothing evolved from the past?
Apparently not.
im no snp supporter but its unfair to tar them with the same brush as the bnp
I have explained my veiw on why the country is on its knees in the past , am not about to start going on again.
In fairness you have said you havent read all manifestos and or know to much indepth about it all and are going to vote blue for the reason it what your going to do not that u fully understand what your voting for.
Sit back and see what people got to say. dont geuss as i get accused of. which i dont.
the last statment is just utter drivel that, no one should be firing or fighting anything
i will return discipline to schools lol
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...outh-programme
he cant do anything just like when he promised a referendum on the lisbon treaty his hands are tied by europe
and soon people wont even be able to discipline there own kids http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...l-smacking-ban
what ever we are living under now its not democracy
watch this about the eu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR83j...eature=related
yep and who sold the argies the weapons, The french
didnt mean it that way sorry if offended my scots bretheren.im no snp supporter but its unfair to tar them with the same brush as the bnp
just that national parties have need around for donkeys years and as someone mentioned earlier there is a very well documented (gladly not recently) part of the northern ireland assembly isnt there and now they are in power?
not wanting to tar anyone with the any brush.
we must all accept that invariably the media will decide who gets in, the way someone is portrayed on television or reported or the 'SPIN' in the tabloid media defines more than not who we will vote for, just look at the slant towards the SDLP recently after a TV debate! im not saying we are all sheep but i looked to my parents upon turning 18 who more often than not voted labour i did because they did, but on growing up and seeing unfortunatly that they dont do as we ask (look at blair and the 'just trust me on this war') more taxes on the working classes (i.e ME) and of course following the good ol USofA in being the world police, and we need to face facts that are all mostly lying useless f***ckers i do have to look outside the tory/labour stranglehold that there is. UKIP is looking likely as i would like the uk to keep its identity otherwise we may descend into a melting pot of 'softly softly too scared to do anything incase we upset someone' people and i dont want that. and no im not a racist before anyone suggest that im pround to be english as the scots (youngscottie) are proud to be scottish and welsh and so on.
i hope we dont fall for the masses of spin surrounding ALL the parties
use your vote wisely but make sure you do use it either way otherwise dont moan when something you didnt want to happen happens and you did nothing about it.
gotta go find another soapbox now thats bigger than this one
none takendidnt mean it that way sorry if offended my scots bretheren.
just that national parties have need around for donkeys years and as someone mentioned earlier there is a very well documented (gladly not recently) part of the northern ireland assembly isnt there and now they are in power?
not wanting to tar anyone with the any brush.
we must all accept that invariably the media will decide who gets in, the way someone is portrayed on television or reported or the 'SPIN' in the tabloid media defines more than not who we will vote for, just look at the slant towards the SDLP recently after a TV debate! im not saying we are all sheep but i looked to my parents upon turning 18 who more often than not voted labour i did because they did, but on growing up and seeing unfortunatly that they dont do as we ask (look at blair and the 'just trust me on this war') more taxes on the working classes (i.e ME) and of course following the good ol USofA in being the world police, and we need to face facts that are all mostly lying useless f***ckers i do have to look outside the tory/labour stranglehold that there is. UKIP is looking likely as i would like the uk to keep its identity otherwise we may descend into a melting pot of 'softly softly too scared to do anything incase we upset someone' people and i dont want that. and no im not a racist before anyone suggest that im pround to be english as the scots (youngscottie
i hope we dont fall for the masses of spin surrounding ALL the parties
use your vote wisely but make sure you do use it either way otherwise dont moan when something you didnt want to happen happens and you did nothing about it.
gotta go find another soapbox now thats bigger than this one
politics arnt really my thing
i just feel that the working man carries the burden all the time(no mater whos in power)
ive alot of gripes about this the biggest one being i get taxed on my savings
when ive already paid tax on my income from which the saving get fed from
two certainties in lifenone taken
politics arnt really my thing
i just feel that the working man carries the burden all the time(no mater whos in power)
ive alot of gripes about this the biggest one being i get taxed on my savings
when ive already paid tax on my income from which the saving get fed from
1.death
2.taxes
it is sods law, take motoring for instance, you buy a new car YOU PAY TAX ON IT, you insure it INSURANCE PREMIUM TAX, you MOT it PART OF THE MOT FEE IS TAX (bout £5 i think), you then pay ROAD TAX (which doesnt go on the roads more likely foreign aid, and its massive fee on new cars not powered by duracell batteries or wind) then there is the fuel dont even get me started on that 125pence per ltr!!!!! then every part you buy new for it is taxed.
best i keep zooming around in the uncatlyzed 5 burning my own little hole in the ozone layer yay
I take your stance and vote no confidence in ANY of em
I have explained my veiw on why the country is on its knees in the past , am not about to start going on again.
In fairness you have said you havent read all manifestos and or know to much indepth about it all and are going to vote blue for the reason it what your going to do not that u fully understand what your voting for.
Sit back and see what people got to say. dont geuss as i get accused of. which i dont.
the last statment is just utter drivel that, no one should be firing or fighting anything
LOL pass the peace Pipe.
I think that instead of sending our lads walking round a dustbowl we should send some really cool weaponary down on targets. Yes yes lets grow a beard and try and win the hearts and minds of the people so they can take chocolate bars off us and then blow up our landys.
Hello mr Afganistani growing opium in your field, here is a letter telling you to destroy your entire crop before Tuesday at noon or we "the good guys" are going to Destroy your field, your house, your neighbour and his goats.
If you would like to talk about compensation for your illegal crop please send a letter to your local democratically elected government representative.
smoke me a kipper.........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sZsTzNmrlE
this guy for pm
What a guy.
LOL pass the peace Pipe.
I think that instead of sending our lads walking round a dustbowl we should send some really cool weaponary down on targets. Yes yes lets grow a beard and try and win the hearts and minds of the people so they can take chocolate bars off us and then blow up our landys.
Hello mr Afganistani growing opium in your field, here is a letter telling you to destroy your entire crop before Tuesday at noon or we "the good guys" are going to Destroy your field, your house, your neighbour and his goats.
If you would like to talk about compensation for your illegal crop please send a letter to your local democratically elected government representative.
poppy feilds like this which are troops are protecting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmFBy...os=mhK5OSVS9B8
no offence kenobi , just stating this thead will go down hill if people start arguing every point. Make a point and then sit back let others post. or supply sumat to read /veiw.
-- durgs are money weather illegal or legal ( just like these lates outbursts of crap from china)
== drugs that have been made illegal, have been made illegal for a reason , to make the prices higher and take more money from the bottem that the majority of middle class tax payers pay/suffer for.
Lots of estste's in england are being broke up sold off, people not being able to afford and being in arrears , so its not just middle class.
A lot / most of rich british people are being shafted also.
layed back
[quote=mr white;150926]poppy feilds like this which are troops are protecting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmFBy...os=mhK5OSVS9B8[/quot
someone comment at the bottem
We are guarding the fields.... The Taliban burnt them down.... US regrew them. 1 year ago
yeah my cousin has just had his second child he has a mortgage on a 2 bed house went to have a look at buying somthing bigger and no chance he bought his house 5 years ago he lives in tonbridge wells his mortage repayments are around 700 a month you can even rent a flat there for that much £1000 min now, hes lived in tunbridge wells all his life hes got no chance in moving now he was thinking of renting a little bigger, but like i said its even more expensive. him and his mrs both work hard and now there traped there. some people might say he should have had his second child but look whats happening on the council estates where people that dont work are having many kids of tax payers backs some even living in million pound mansions wtf is happening it dont make senseno offence kenobi , just stating this thead will go down hill if people start arguing every point. Make a point and then sit back let others post. or supply sumat to read /veiw.
-- durgs are money weather illegal or legal ( just like these lates outbursts of crap from china)
== drugs that have been made illegal, have been made illegal for a reason , to make the prices higher and take more money from the bottem that the majority of middle class tax payers pay/suffer for.
Lots of estste's in england are being broke up sold off, people not being able to afford and being in arrears , so its not just middle class.
A lot / most of rich british people are being shafted also.
layed back
[quote=dave j gtt;150955]poppy feilds like this which are troops are protecting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmFBy...os=mhK5OSVS9B8[/quot
someone comment at the bottem
We are guarding the fields.... The Taliban burnt them down.... US regrew them. 1 year ago
this says it all http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7R7q1lSZfs
My dad was a dustman and he was paying a mortage on a 3 bed house. He got the house in 1984 when i was two years old. Ive got no chance of getting my own house.yeah my cousin has just had his second child he has a mortgage on a 2 bed house went to have a look at buying somthing bigger and no chance he bought his house 5 years ago he lives in tonbridge wells his mortage repayments are around 700 a month you can even rent a flat there for that much £1000 min now, hes lived in tunbridge wells all his life hes got no chance in moving now he was thinking of renting a little bigger, but like i said its even more expensive. him and his mrs both work hard and now there traped there. some people might say he should have had his second child but look whats happening on the council estates where people that dont work are having many kids of tax payers backs some even living in million pound mansions wtf is happening it dont make sense
My dad was a dustman and he was paying a mortage on a 3 bed house. He got the house in 1984 when i was two years old. Ive got no chance of getting my own house.
yep and they will only continue to rise as wages stagnate. my nans house was bought just after the war its a victorian house 4 bedrooms over 4 levels back and front gardens they paid somthing like £200 for it with my grate nan and grandad. the house is mint had new roof the lot next doors to that is a little run down it was valued at wait for it £750,000things have changed so much
Its getting close
fancy brown messing up like he did yesterday ? I think it was on purpose to damage labours chances futher.
I relised from infomation i read months back that the next leader would be cameron and torys would win regardless of anything , Its was said to me, they are next to lead us to yet more problems and make yet more mistakes.
The thing is, i was told it would be tory win weather its done pretty or not
Camo for the win!!Its getting close
fancy brown messing up like he did yesterday ? I think it was on purpose to damage labours chances futher.
I relised from infomation i read months back that the next leader would be cameron and torys would win regardless of anything , Its was said to me, they are next to lead us to yet more problems and make yet more mistakes.
The thing is, i was told it would be tory win weather its done pretty or not
not good for people who like cars and driving them
ukip all the way its a non-racist party seeking Britain's withdrawal from the European Union i do not trust any of the others (bnp is as racist as you can get) but my vote means nuffing anyway because of the election Seating even though brown is 3rd on the polls says the telly says he can still win with the election seating how does that work what a load of rubbish
i dont know why they still do postal votes its far to open to fraud check this out
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standa...oss-capital.do
so i doubt we will have an onest election
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...e-1961464.html
Last edited by mr white; 04-05-2010 at 14:47.
That-there London villageIt's not the center of the universe .
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politi...10/8659864.stm
One of three will get in and none of them is called Mugabe so I think we will manage an honest election
That-there London village
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politi...10/8659864.stm
One of three will get in and none of them is called Mugabe so I think we will manage an honest election
well at least brown hasnt taken up robert mugabe style "Land reform" yet
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worl...e-farmers.html
yet the white farmers cant even claim asylum in the uk, yet over 3000 have been killed since 1994 and our goverment doesnt even batter an eyelid, how come they havent sent are troops there to help them
a poll from the times news paper
http://www.respondi-panel.com/electi...&chosen_site=3
Should I already have my card in the post to vote?
Lol yes, it's tomorrow.
You won't necessarily need it though, so long as you can provide proof of ID/address. Few years back I lost mine
yes i think so
Ah thats ok then, my mrs is at work and she looks after anything important. I probably have mine but good to know i can vote without it.
think its time to go waist half an hour ...........
Well that was pointless, i got just 2 hows sleep watching all that.
I think it should be done xfacter style next. On illimination. Last 2 in and it goes to the phones.
that has to be a better system surely.
Last edited by Kenobi; 07-05-2010 at 09:56.
Well you never know they may finally reform the electoral system to PR.
tories came out saying the reason why labour have done so well in some areas is because of labours benefit culture
Best thing about the election so far is that the BNP didn't even manage to make 4th place ahead of the tiny ukip party. Griffin won't have to be invited on to telly again as the public have shown exactly what they think of them and shown them up to be a tiny minority bunch no one is interested in.
Oh and nice to see plenty of the expense fiddlers getting their arses kicked too
We don't get to vote till May 27 so am expecting all party leaders to come to our house in person to explain why I should vote for them
Well What A F U C K Up That Was.
You say that yet they received the most votes after lib dems and ukip and considering there is at least 15 parties after them I wouldn't say they are party no one is interested in.
Think BNP still got about 1/2 million votes, shocking really
all a pile of pants..
And the same guy that got voted in as an MEP!
Divide that by the 649 constituencies and it puts that figure into perspective though D4WNO
Plus they lost virtually every seat they held in local councils, including all 12 in the area Griffin actually stood in. Says it all
wait for more human rights laws and the rest of the bul****, like how most fisherman in the uk have already met their quotas for this year and their boats are sitting in dock, they cant make the money they need and are having to sell there boats of, the british fishing fleet is declining at a great rate.
mr white .
why isnt there down time used to restock the fishing grounds
inother words if you keep taking without putting back evetualy you will run out. and that goes for many other things aswell
What is your point exactly? You say they are a minority bunch no one is interested in even though that had the 5th highest amount of votes out of 21+ parties, now you are referring to the fact they won no seats.Divide that by the 649 constituencies and it puts that figure into perspective though D4WNO
Plus they lost virtually every seat they held in local councils, including all 12 in the area Griffin actually stood in. Says it all
Take ukip for example, over 900,000 votes (3.1%) compared to Democratic Unionist Party who had almost 170,000 (0.6%) yet ukip won 0 seats and the later 8 seats. Does this not highlight a problem with the current electoral system?
nice postwait for more human rights laws and the rest of the bul****, like how most fisherman in the uk have already met their quotas for this year and their boats are sitting in dock, they cant make the money they need and are having to sell there boats of, the british fishing fleet is declining at a great rate.
mr white .
why isnt there down time used to restock the fishing grounds
inother words if you keep taking without putting back evetualy you will run out. and that goes for many other things aswell
Lost for words, my previous must have caught up with me....
In all fairness this club love's these topics, people read learn and evolve. this clubs great, Lot more too it than just cars
Very true it can get a bit much all the religion, theroys about the world, but topics should stand and have a place on our forum its great.
And is of great value to see all others points and opinions.
To take things from each and everything we read or see is good,
I proved my point i started a good topic and people could fu**k it up, It was a good topic about somthing that couldnt be cast into the shadows like other good relervent topics or posts do or have done in the past.
("point being i am no idiot and have started some very intresting topics to some peoples intrest". "Some enjoy making points, some enjoy reading. some enjoy being numb to there box. and dare not step outside" some enjoy belittling and to annoy or some just act like kids
The election has just proved we need to commuicate come together and act as a marjorty rather than all this crap, Things need setting in stone, of how things should be done in the future to stop, some or all the wasted time and effort and monies of our country.
there for theads like this need to stand
Wait for it topic closed
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