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    fitting poly bushes on arb

    did anyone have extra difficulties fitting inner poly bushes on to the arb ?
    i have a renault 9 arb here which is supposed to be 23mm in diameter
    hence i bought some 23mm poly bushes from a renault 19 16v/clio williams .

    however i am having real big problems fitting the inner bushes , i have
    just measured the arb (using digital caliper tool )where the inner bushes go
    and it measures about 24mm and thats bare metal ,so paint thickness is
    not an issue either .

    any ideas/input appreciated

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    Re: fitting poly bushes on arb

    Absolutely plaster the bushes and antiroll bar in as much grease as possible, place a bar against one side of the bush, take a hammer and bat it into position smearing both sides with grease as it moves along

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    Re: fitting poly bushes on arb

    Quote Originally Posted by GanJaMan View Post
    Absolutely plaster the bushes and antiroll bar in as much grease as possible, place a bar against one side of the bush, take a hammer and bat it into position smearing both sides with grease as it moves along

    i wondered what that sachet of grease was for lol
    seriously though , does the grease actually help the bush get a little more
    flexible ??

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    Re: fitting poly bushes on arb

    does it help if your lady freind is wet during sex

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    Re: fitting poly bushes on arb

    Quote Originally Posted by Schakal View Post
    i wondered what that sachet of grease was for lol
    seriously though , does the grease actually help the bush get a little more
    flexible ??

    yep!


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    Re: fitting poly bushes on arb

    Quote Originally Posted by J$£5GTT View Post
    yep!


    nice one ,i better man up a notch than
    cheers

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    Re: fitting poly bushes on arb

    Quote Originally Posted by baby blue 5 View Post
    does it help if your lady freind is wet during sex
    depends upon your aim/eyesight

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    Re: fitting poly bushes on arb

    ok i am still having problems with this
    this surely cant be right ??


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    Re: fitting poly bushes on arb

    The black clip type thing i found i had to change as it had become out of shape.

    Not alot from renault for the 5, id assume it would be the same for the 9.

    is the depth of the bush the same? compare it to the old one, and make allowence for 20 years squishing

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    Re: fitting poly bushes on arb

    they are either the wrong type of bushe , that was the problem i had , so i ordered the ones from flo flex , or the bracket is out of shape ,but by the looks of that photo its defo 100% the wrong bushe mate

    you need the next size down

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    Re: fitting poly bushes on arb

    They look right to me, the diameter of the hole looks fine as the bush closes fully. These are always a pig to fit. Boil a kettle full of water then plop your bushes in for a couple of minutes, you'll find they are a lot easier to fit. A big pair of mole grips to clamp them up enough (or a secon person) to get the bolt in goes a long way too. Percivere mate and they will be fine.

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    Re: fitting poly bushes on arb

    gt matts right uve got the later type bush and an early type subframe and arb bracket. i had this problem bout 2yrs ago and matt had the same prob 2. get sum samller early type arb bushes from flo flex on ebay or superflex. the powerflex one uve got is only 4 later type arb bracket and subframe same as early clios.

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    Re: fitting poly bushes on arb

    I've had the exactly the same problem with the bushes I got (from Rally Design) I ended up having to get the PH1 bushes.

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    Re: fitting poly bushes on arb

    hi Evren,

    I had the same problem with my 11 and I ended up grinding some meat off of the bushes, it worked a treat

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    Re: fitting poly bushes on arb

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    I've had the exactly the same problem with the bushes I got (from Rally Design) I ended up having to get the PH1 bushes.
    Same here, has anyone actually got the phase 2 bushes on their phase 2?

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    Re: fitting poly bushes on arb

    i have just checked flo-flex and super-flex websites , they dont seem to
    have bushes listed for a RENAULT 9 1.7 GTX
    did renault 5 gtt ever come with 24mm ARB ?

    I also have a later type subframe here out of a megane (1997)
    the bushes fit perfectly fine on that using the megane clamps .
    subframe is similar to the renault 9 apart from 1 major difference .

    the mounting point at the o/s rear on meggy subframe has got a rubber bush
    built in it where as renault 9 subframe is solid at all 4 mountings .
    i can fix this with some chopping and welding i guess .

    does anyone know why they used a bushed mounting on later subframes ??
    i have seen this on 19s and clios as well

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    Re: fitting poly bushes on arb

    Quote Originally Posted by i l k e r View Post
    hi Evren,

    I had the same problem with my 11 and I ended up grinding some meat off of the bushes, it worked a treat
    hi mate , what did you grind them down with ?
    i heard from superflex guy that polyurethane melts when exposed to
    heat etc

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    Re: fitting poly bushes on arb

    Quote Originally Posted by Schakal View Post
    hi mate , what did you grind them down with ?
    i heard from superflex guy that polyurethane melts when exposed to
    heat etc
    I used a bench grinder thingy that's got a sandpaper on it

    this:

    http://www.clarkeinternational.com/s...h-sander/path/

    if you take your time and don't grind it down in 2 seconds it won't melt.

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    Re: fitting poly bushes on arb

    Cgb sent me the ph1 when I needed the bigger phase 2. Just gave away 2 sets of phase 1 inner as I had no use for them and now have the fatter phase 2 ones to fit.

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    Re: fitting poly bushes on arb

    i think i will just not fokk around and use a later subframe

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    Re: fitting poly bushes on arb

    Quote Originally Posted by Schakal View Post
    i think i will just not fokk around and use a later subframe
    just order the flo flex ones mate , they are in wales rhyl , bout £15 its defo the early frame u have

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    Re: fitting poly bushes on arb

    Quote Originally Posted by gtmatt View Post
    just order the flo flex ones mate , they are in wales rhyl , bout £15 its defo the early frame u have

    are they for a 23mm anti roll bar though ?

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    Re: fitting poly bushes on arb

    Quote Originally Posted by Schakal View Post
    are they for a 23mm anti roll bar though ?
    cnt remember can tell u on sat mate , but mite be late then sorry

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    Re: fitting poly bushes on arb

    it was the same problem as i had though

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    Re: fitting poly bushes on arb

    i will give them a call to confirm dimensions etc actually .
    it would be shame to use a different subframe as i allready welded
    mine up for strength etc .

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    Re: fitting poly bushes on arb

    Quote Originally Posted by Schakal View Post
    i will give them a call to confirm dimensions etc actually .
    it would be shame to use a different subframe as i allready welded
    mine up for strength etc .
    u wnt mate ,im sure u will be ok

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