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    Non-member Adey aka Ewok's Avatar
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    gt twingo

    so weve got one on order, what go faster bits are about? Quite a nippy car already, could it b the replacement for the 5 in 15 years time?

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    Re: gt twingo

    A mate of mine got one when they were released. Looks ok and he said its "quite nippy". Not sure if there are many bits around yet to modify em. Just PMT it mate..

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    Re: gt twingo

    lol might have to if she will let me play under the bonnet

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    Re: gt twingo

    any peeps who work in a dealership have the proper spec for these cars? ie what turbo they use, size and boost pressures?

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    Re: gt twingo

    I did have a look under the bonnet of my mates and couldn't even see the turbo .

    There isn't alot of room in the engine bays thats all I'll say.

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    Re: gt twingo

    NAWSE

    get yourself to Halfords

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=0FZFaEnqfTg
    Last edited by Andrew Cooke; 04-10-2008 at 17:48.

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    Re: gt twingo

    pmsl

    well im hoping they use a t2 based turbo for easy upgrades, it does have a standard overboost feature so it might be possible to rig that up to be over boosted all the time, mabey mix in with a stealth fmic

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    Re: gt twingo

    I would be tempted to put the RenaultSport bumpers / arches on it. Make it a true modern day GTT, with the flared arches, small engine, turbo, etc

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    Re: gt twingo

    was thinking along those lines, just wondering what gives the 133 its wider track, the cup clios use different offset wheels

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    Re: gt twingo

    GO FOR THE 133 ...............

    just my opinion

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    Re: gt twingo

    goodbye warrenty......

    Get an import fella

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    Re: gt twingo

    I can see 2 types of turbo.....




    not sure about the ease of overboosting....YET

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    Re: gt twingo

    car should be here in 2weeks. Would b good 2 know the boost it runs and what it overboosts too but thats probably ecu controled, mabey by a solonoid like the nissans so could poss bypass it and run the overboost pressure all the time

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    Re: gt twingo

    well, PM your reg number as soon as you know it and i'll pull my large one out....

    book that is...

    your minds are shocking

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    Re: gt twingo

    will do buddy cheer, from them pics can you tell what 2 turbo they are?

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    Re: gt twingo

    NO, SORRY....DONT GET DETAIL LIKE THAT ON A PICTURE......

    but with the reg number I can check the big book of knowledge......I will point at pictures and ask the biggers boys to read out the words,.

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    Re: gt twingo

    Quote Originally Posted by paul b View Post
    GO FOR THE 133 ...............

    just my opinion
    am i right in saying the 133 is 1.6 N/A engine?

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    Re: gt twingo

    yes,,,,,

    trick exhaust and cams.........goes like a vicars knacker sack at communion

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    Re: gt twingo

    i have a feeling the turbo will be more tunable in the long run, not going to be that hard to squeese another 33 bhp out of the turbo engine to match the performance of the 133. mind the 133 is a little track wapon where the gt will be let down, remember this is a daily driver for my mrs tho so shes not that intrested in hooning around a track, tho she does partake in the traffic light gran prix lol

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    Re: gt twingo

    Paul,

    Can you let me know what Turbo is on my Diesel? Reg GN57 DWV i dont mind people seeing my reg, as there are pic's off it all over the net.

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    Re: gt twingo

    Quote Originally Posted by paul b View Post
    I can see 2 types of turbo.....




    not sure about the ease of overboosting....YET
    The top one's a KP35 Borg warner unit, super small, a T2 is larger in comparison.

    The second is a Mitsubishi turbo, not sure of what frame though. A TD25 of some sort?

    The top one also looks very similar to the clio diesel 1.5 turbo, the same one used on the Micra.

    Don't Renault also use KKK on the deisel range and Mitsubishi for the petrol...
    Last edited by Adam L; 06-10-2008 at 21:37.

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    Re: gt twingo

    Quote Originally Posted by ShopBoy View Post
    Paul,

    Can you let me know what Turbo is on my Diesel? Reg GN57 DWV i dont mind people seeing my reg, as there are pic's off it all over the net.
    KKK vnt isn't it?

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    Re: gt twingo

    uber small units then, what boost they good for adam?

    just found this on the borg warner unit

    http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...67/ai_76736517

    not sure if converted the quoted boost pressure right but im sure it equates to over 30psi, but lists it as the diesel turbo

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    Re: gt twingo

    They've all got 360 thrust bearings as std, but that doesn't really count for much. I can't remember what boost they run stock either. Personally, I wouldn't try much over stock boost.

    I doubt they run 30psi, i've only ever seen big cranes and CAT machinery run that kind of boost.

    Around 18psi would be a good guess for a diesel. For a petrol the actuators are usually set to 5psi or so, the rest is controlled by a solenoid.

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    Re: gt twingo

    Ah, wait, I just remembered. I tested one of those KP35's a couple of weeks ago to get a boost reading and it was 25psi or so. So I guess it's not all lies...

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    Re: gt twingo

    ill wait to get the reg to find out what turbo is on the car. surley such a small turbo cant be efficient at such high boost?

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    Re: gt twingo

    They flow a hell of alot better than the old turbo's. The comp housings on those Borg warner turbo's are so smooth inside, perfect moulding, nothing like the old T series. It's the same with the comp wheels and shafts.

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    Re: gt twingo

    looks like this car could be fun, wonder what the boost limit on the ecu is, if it has one lol

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    Re: gt twingo

    oo i like the sound of this thread
    i have a twingo GT o nthe fornt yard and thought the turbo would be about as good as one of those ebay electric superchargers.
    but on seeing some positive comments above i have my fingers crossed for future potential!!!!

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    Re: gt twingo

    So Adey, what's the first mod to the Twingo going to be?

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    Re: gt twingo

    Thank god they don't look like this anymore!

    Looks like one of those moped cars

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    Re: gt twingo

    seen one on top gear last nite looks mint...
    also that little fiat abarth they were testing looked
    fun

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    Re: gt twingo

    Quote Originally Posted by Amber5GTTurb View Post
    Thank god they don't look like this anymore!

    Looks like one of those moped cars
    I like those, and the GT Turbo engine slips in lovely...

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    Re: gt twingo

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Cooke View Post
    I like those, and the GT Turbo engine slips in lovely...
    I wanted to build one of those to go in sports libre.........rear mounted turbo'ed bike engine was weapon of choice........

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    Quote Originally Posted by J$£5GTT View Post
    seen one on top gear last nite looks mint...
    also that little fiat abarth they were testing looked
    fun
    Yea I like the look of the arbarth 500 too. Mt friends got a new Punto Arbarth apparently it's got every gadget under the sun in it

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    Re: gt twingo

    New poster! (less than 10 posts)

    my mate works for hylton reno and he had the 1.2 turbo as a loan car got 120mph out of it on a private road, onli mod we did was remove the recirculateing d/v pipe so it hiisst.

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    Re: gt twingo

    LOOOOOOKOUT Ewok's getting himself a new Twingo GT?! Good on you mate!!!

    I suspect it's going to be Mrs Wok's car though so as you say you're going to have to tickle her under the chin to allow you to play with it!?

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    Re: gt twingo

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Steve - Raider View Post
    LOOOOOOKOUT Ewok's getting himself a new Twingo GT?! Good on you mate!!!

    I suspect it's going to be Mrs Wok's car though so as you say you're going to have to tickle her under the chin to allow you to play with it!?
    Have you seen how old this thread is

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfoot View Post
    Have you seen how old this thread is
    Missed that!

    Did he get it?

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    Re: gt twingo

    yeah i got it, tempted 2 deck it but goes real well, put 3k on it. Not had chance to play yet tho the 5 and clio are taking all my time

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    Re: gt twingo

    dont you think the turbo kicks in very quick and its out of puff quick, i am sure its the same engine in my clio 1.2tce happy days

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    Re: gt twingo

    yeah, feels quite like a derv in that respect, aparently the stock injectors are at 100 percent duty already tho, looks like an injector upgrade with more boost will be the first port of call

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    Re: gt twingo

    ok just for info if anyone is looking, if some one could check my workings though that would be great. the stock 1.2 tce runs 1700millibars of boost pressure, tho the ecu wont cut the engine untill 2200millibars. as far as i can figure this works out to be about 9.9psi of boost but the fuel cut wont happen untill 17psi? anyone else confirm this?

    if so im guessing renault would have set the car to run upto 2200millibars with no problem? free boost please?

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    Re: gt twingo

    They must be absolute pressures adey, so yes 1700mbar is 1.7bar absolute, or 0.7bar / 10.15psi of boost as we'd know it. 2200mbar absolute would be 1.2bar / 17.4psi.

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    Re: gt twingo

    thats what i assumed, might have to have a cheeky play next week then ;-)

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    Re: gt twingo

    Quote Originally Posted by ollie91 View Post
    New poster! (less than 10 posts)

    my mate works for hylton reno and he had the 1.2 turbo as a loan car got 120mph out of it on a private road, onli mod we did was remove the recirculateing d/v pipe so it hiisst.
    Could be an issue if the ECU is correcting the fueling thinking it is getting that air pumped back in. Can run a touch lean (but for a VERY short time obviously) this is why a lot of cars wanting whoosh noise have to retain the oe recirc also to stp the ecu crying or the issue I mention above.

    Would it break, prob not :P

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    Re: gt twingo

    Quote Originally Posted by Adey aka Ewok View Post
    thats what i assumed, might have to have a cheeky play next week then ;-)
    I wouldn't do that without a WB and det cans, way too much BS out there on the www... If you want to be real flash, TIP and compressor exit temperature would be good things to monitor too.

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    Re: gt twingo

    i got that info from my renault master tech friend? well the levels of boost and how much switches the engine into limp

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