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    Re: how low is too low?????????

    Quote Originally Posted by price82 View Post
    checked all suspension no play in anything


    tyres are all brand new uniroyals

    wheels are original 13 inch

    back end feels a bit keen to step out
    i know the feeling mate, its all about not going to fast and balanceing your car on cornering with correct power and steering " balance that boost , also brake into a corner and acc round and out is the way, anything "but" is dam rite dangerous i think.

    i have same set up/wheels /tyres/oe susp, and have drove in all conditions and they are that light they wiil feel so in heavy rain/wind

    take care and nice looking car mate

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    Re: how low is too low?????????

    [quote=5GTTurbo;96461]New poster! (less than 10 posts)

    Quote Originally Posted by Spooky View Post
    As it now...



    Love it! Thats the picture-perfect postcard shot right there!


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    Re: how low is too low?????????

    I have found the lower you go the more grip you think you have but when it lets go you get no warning as you would with a standard set up of even just lowered slightly. I have had quite a few incidents with pushing a lowered get too far! Whereas with standard or close to standard you get good feedback as regards to how much you’re pushing it.

    All on a private road/track

    I do get sick of scraping on every speed hump and sometimes having to go a different route to avoid them.

    And once, I went to pick up a bird that lived on a street with loads of horrible speed bumps and on the way to her house it was just a light scraping but once she got in I literally couldn't get over the speed bumps!

    But They do look cool as **** lowered!

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    Re: how low is too low?????????

    Quote Originally Posted by GTphil View Post
    And once, I went to pick up a bird that lived on a street with loads of horrible speed bumps and on the way to her house it was just a light scraping but once she got in I literally couldn't get over the speed bumps!
    Did you kick her out and tell her to walk whilst you drive over the speed bumps

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    Re: how low is too low?????????

    I have found the lower you go the more grip you think you have but when it lets go you get no warning as you would with a standard set up of even just lowered slightly. I have had quite a few incidents with pushing a lowered get too far! Whereas with standard or close to standard you get good feedback as regards to how much you’re pushing it.

    when you know your and the cars limits there ok to be lowered just like you have said above

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    Re: how low is too low?????????

    Any one had issues with driveshafts hitting the chassis rails??

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    Re: how low is too low?????????

    Quote Originally Posted by TommyB View Post
    Any one had issues with driveshafts hitting the chassis rails??

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    Re: how low is too low?????????

    Quote Originally Posted by TommyB View Post
    Any one had issues with driveshafts hitting the chassis rails??
    ...

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    Re: how low is too low?????????



    HA HA you know your low when you have that trouble.

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    Re: how low is too low?????????

    my phase 1 rather low.
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    Re: how low is too low?????????

    Love those wheels, seen them on a few GTTs and they look lush
    are they 8in at the rear with stretched rubber?

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    Re: how low is too low?????????

    They look like 8x13s all round, have you caught the rear arches yet? i killed a set of phase 1s on mine.



    My brothers phase one on ATS on 7x13s all round



    My car on the ATS. 7x13 up front 8x13 on the rear.

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    Re: how low is too low?????????

    Oh man, I keep telling myself I don't need new alloys and everytime I see pics like that, it's kinda hard not to want to buy some

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    Re: how low is too low?????????

    Nice pics, love them....

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    Re: how low is too low?????????

    my car how it sits now. front will be down a bit more
    7 J and 8J 14 inch

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    Re: how low is too low?????????

    Quote Originally Posted by TommyB View Post
    This is how mine sits right now,ifim honest it's too low at the front.I've broke two gearboxes now.These are 13inch wheels
    I like my car to be slightly higher at the back, i hate the going uphill look.


    i love them rims, would be even better with more of a dish ? what they called

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    Re: how low is too low?????????

    Quote Originally Posted by TommyB View Post
    They look like 8x13s all round, have you caught the rear arches yet? i killed a set of phase 1s on mine.



    My brothers phase one on ATS on 7x13s all round



    My car on the ATS. 7x13 up front 8x13 on the rear.
    Will a eight inch wheel not fit on the front of a five then? I have always wanted to put a set of bbs rs001's on a five with eights on the front and eight and a half on the rear.

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    Re: how low is too low?????????

    You can run 8s on the front as the arch doesn't cover the wheel when low.You will have some trouble trying to fit 8.5 on the rear.

    The shiny wheels are PLS, your right the rears needed more dish. But ive now sold them to a polo guy

    Someone else down this way has some very nice wheels for a 5.

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    Re: how low is too low?????????

    Quote Originally Posted by sieger View Post
    my car how it sits now. front will be down a bit more
    7 J and 8J 14 inch
    Do you have any more pictures of you car? Looks tidy.

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    Re: how low is too low?????????

    Quote Originally Posted by Spooky View Post
    As it now...





    When on 13s...this was ridiculous, i couldnt get into work...



    So I raised the arse a bit...



    I drive the car daily and its always that low, no probs other than the expected scrape here n there
    thats on the floor looks fat

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    Re: how low is too low?????????

    And what rear shocks are you using on a GTT which is lowered more than 4cm?
    Because that is the point where the original ones are totally pushed togehter.

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    Re: how low is too low?????????

    New poster! (less than 10 posts)

    Sorry to bring up a realllly old thread but WOW! Spooky your car is outragous! I like!
    How low have you gone on the rear?

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    Re: how low is too low?????????

    This one's from a dutch guy:






    165/45/15 federal formoza tyres on 6,5J bbs RM

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    Re: how low is too low?????????

    that is low, i like.

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    Re: how low is too low?????????

    Mine on 16" rims

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    Gonna bump an old thread, thought it would be better than statting a new one.... Well basically i wanna go pretty low... Am i right in thinking i dont need to order anything for the rear and just use the torsion bar to get low? Also where can i get some coilovers for the front that go lower than 50mm?

    Cheers sonny

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    Re: how low is too low?????????

    Recently very interested in the depts of lowness....

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    Re: how low is too low?????????

    The rear beam bottoms out on the boot floor lip and the rear shocks hit there limit so people fit ones with shorter rods or something from another vehicle. At the front it looks bad ass but all coilovers are pretty stiff and the rides are and pleasurable as being fingered by an elephant..

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    Re: how low is too low?????????

    Quote Originally Posted by Sonny1day View Post
    New poster! (less than 10 posts)

    Gonna bump an old thread, thought it would be better than statting a new one.... Well basically i wanna go pretty low... Am i right in thinking i dont need to order anything for the rear and just use the torsion bar to get low? Also where can i get some coilovers for the front that go lower than 50mm?

    Cheers sonny

    Avos allow you to slam the 5 on the floor only downside to avo is they corrode easy, get some stiffer shorter rear dampers, going to low and you can snap a damper, i know this fom experience some pics in my profile thinked my 5 measured 1.5" front bumper lowest point to floor





    Last edited by James5; 29-10-2012 at 21:24.

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    Re: how low is too low?????????

    Quote Originally Posted by dangerous dave View Post
    The rear beam bottoms out on the boot floor lip and the rear shocks hit there limit so people fit ones with shorter rods or something from another vehicle. At the front it looks bad ass but all coilovers are pretty stiff and the rides are and pleasurable as being fingered by an elephant..
    An elephant you say lol

    And which vehical would they be off?

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    Re: how low is too low?????????

    Going lower than 50mm looks like sh*t and feels like sh*t.

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    Re: how low is too low?????????

    Quote Originally Posted by Trevhib View Post
    Going lower than 50mm looks like sh*t and feels like sh*t.
    I'm sticking with 50mm I can barely get the jack under now so that's enough for me

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    Re: how low is too low?????????

    Quote Originally Posted by Nottswoody View Post
    I'm sticking with 50mm I can barely get the jack under now so that's enough for me
    Treat yourself to a low entry jack then

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    Re: how low is too low?????????

    Wheel alignment becomes a right hassle when you're lowered more than 50mm too. A lot of places struggle to get the laser gear onto the wheels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trevhib View Post
    Wheel alignment becomes a right hassle when you're lowered more than 50mm too. A lot of places struggle to get the laser gear onto the wheels.
    i had to zip tie all the brackets to the wheels and have a guy on each corners making sure they didn't move while running the alignment check.. then adjust it..

    i've done the coilover thing and wont be doing it again..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nottswoody View Post
    I'm sticking with 50mm I can barely get the jack under now so that's enough for me
    Get your pictures out then!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonny5 View Post
    Treat yourself to a low entry jack then
    already have one

    Quote Originally Posted by Trevhib View Post
    Going lower than 50mm looks like sh*t and feels like sh*t.
    Each to there own

    Quote Originally Posted by dangerous dave View Post
    i had to zip tie all the brackets to the wheels and have a guy on each corners making sure they didn't move while running the alignment check.. then adjust it..

    i've done the coilover thing and wont be doing it again..
    so what car could i get these shortened shocks off?
    and yea im 'young and dumb' as they say....im sure ill grow out of it some day..... untill then... LOWER! ha


    Thanks for all the replys lads. Appreciate it.

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    Re: how low is too low?????????

    i raised mine up again after i hit a bump at 60 causing the beam to hit the boot floors seam and bounced me out the seat..

    i had gaz, not sure about rod sizes, others like james5 have spent a long time going lower and lower.. sukhi kept his so low the wing mirrors rested on the kerb..

    people once used extra van shocks, either because of travel or being a cheap stiffer upgrade.. theres a (doris mod) that can be searched for, never done it myself but its a proven mod

    we all gotta do these things, i shagged a fat bird once and although i wont do it again, i had fun..

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    Re: how low is too low?????????

    Quote Originally Posted by dangerous dave View Post
    i raised mine up again after i hit a bump at 60 causing the beam to hit the boot floors seam and bounced me out the seat..

    i had gaz, not sure about rod sizes, others like james5 have spent a long time going lower and lower.. sukhi kept his so low the wing mirrors rested on the kerb..

    people once used extra van shocks, either because of travel or being a cheap stiffer upgrade.. theres a (doris mod) that can be searched for, never done it myself but its a proven mod

    we all gotta do these things, i shagged a fat bird once and although i wont do it again, i had fun..

    I ended up raising mine 20mm as I was having problems with speed humps and cat's eye's if I overtook. My sidey was constantly being pulled of or dented, I was constantly fixing it. The handling was as good as any other 5 I spent alot of time experimenting with different coilovers and spring lbs rates. I even went to the extrement of cutting the front arch's lip another 1 1/2"s to give me some extra clearance on hard cornerning and skim the inner lip of the bodykit and I was only using a 195/45/15 profile tyre and alloy with ET37. Ok the ride quality wasn't the best and as Dave has said was like being fingered by an elephant Ask anyone whom went out in my car what the ride was like, handled awesome but your bones ached after I snapped a shortened / stiffer Spax Krypto rear damper aswell from being to low, to be honest wasn't much travel in it.

    Just remeber any adjustment to ride height adjust the rear brake compensator
    Last edited by James5; 31-10-2012 at 08:43.

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    Re: how low is too low?????????

    Quote Originally Posted by Sonny1day View Post
    Each to there own

    yea im 'young and dumb' as they say....im sure ill grow out of it some day..... untill then... LOWER! ha
    Fair play, at least you recognise it. I was the same when I was younger, in some ways.

    Just a pity you can't learn all the lowering lessons on a Saxo or Corsa instead of a poor ol' GTT.

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    Re: how low is too low?????????

    Well another problem with being too low is... I just went to formular 1 garage to get it tracked ready for my new wheels and the blocke said yer no probs £39.99 so I thought ok.. He shouted his mate to doit and he walked out and said "I can't track that f.cking thing how am I supposed to get the gear on" I just p1ssed myself at him.. So who do I take it to? It's dropped 50mm so at the back its inline with the rim of the wheel.. Any ideas?

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    Re: how low is too low?????????

    You need to find someone with the older equipment that they just put on the front wheels, that's what they used to do with mine years ago and £40 for tracking.... mind you I struggled to get anywhere that would do the mrs fiat punto for less than £30, the cheeky feck even tried telling me they had ajusted to rears also as a gtt the rears are non ajustable

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    Re: how low is too low?????????

    Quote Originally Posted by Nottswoody View Post
    Well another problem with being too low is... I just went to formular 1 garage to get it tracked ready for my new wheels and the blocke said yer no probs £39.99 so I thought ok.. He shouted his mate to doit and he walked out and said "I can't track that f.cking thing how am I supposed to get the gear on" I just p1ssed myself at him.. So who do I take it to? It's dropped 50mm so at the back its inline with the rim of the wheel.. Any ideas?
    Look in my profile, there's a pic of how I did it on a Hunter laser jobbie.. Zip ties are great..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nottswoody View Post
    Well another problem with being too low is... I just went to formular 1 garage to get it tracked ready for my new wheels and the blocke said yer no probs £39.99 so I thought ok.. He shouted his mate to doit and he walked out and said "I can't track that f.cking thing how am I supposed to get the gear on" I just p1ssed myself at him.. So who do I take it to? It's dropped 50mm so at the back its inline with the rim of the wheel.. Any ideas?
    Did you not read the comments above that were already posted about this problem?

    In any case I can probably help. ETS on Mansfield Rd in Derby were able to get their 4-wheel laser alignment gear onto my old GTT, just. The car was -50mm on coilovers and had 195/45/15s on Clio Turbines (6.5j). If you have bigger than 15" wheels or 7j width you might find a different outcome.

    They had to tilt the clamps on the rear, they would only fit in one particular orientation. Well worth it though, the car felt great afterwards.

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    Re: how low is too low?????????

    [quote=Trevhib;298877]Did you not read the comments above that were already posted about this problem?


    nope

    cheers i will go today as my handling scares the crap out of me at the min i think the passenger side front is towing in way too much since chaning the rods a couple of weeks ago..

    cheers

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    Re: how low is too low?????????

    Maybe give them a call beforehand. It was 5yrs ago that I had mine done.

    Let us know how you get on.

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    Re: how low is too low?????????

    it's not the best pic but that's 60mm on coil overs with 16" wheels


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    Re: how low is too low?????????

    with all these tracking problems why not invest in a tracking plate?

    i have my own trackright plate and do it myself. i know it no laser tracked but you'll be surprised how good they are

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