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    wideband options?

    So i want to run a wideband setup when i get some money together for it, got a lovely bms downpipe ready for it so be rude not to

    Iv done some searches on them and keep reading on them failing (the lc-1 is it?), whats the deal with this. Can you not leave them in place constantly? Its the cheaper option so am quiete tempted

    Then iv also seen the aem uego kit, abit more exspensive at 200ish. whats the views on this

    and theres also the lm-1 option, but id really like it with a gauge so maybe rule this one out.

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    Re: wideband options?

    Quote Originally Posted by gttjames View Post
    So i want to run a wideband setup when i get some money together for it, got a lovely bms downpipe ready for it so be rude not to

    Iv done some searches on them and keep reading on them failing (the lc-1 is it?), whats the deal with this. Can you not leave them in place constantly? Its the cheaper option so am quiete tempted

    Then iv also seen the aem uego kit, abit more exspensive at 200ish. whats the views on this

    and theres also the lm-1 option, but id really like it with a gauge so maybe rule this one out.
    im in the same position just got my bms pipe,new to all this malarky so ill just say that i know bugger all about these things,and im looking for some sort of guidance chaps??????

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    Re: wideband options?

    ..me too, im going for the lm1, ive heard so much bad prees on the lc1 and ive seen the lm1 in action etc etc and they dont tend to get sent back very often according to graham goode racing, just what ive heard etc...anyone else?...

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    Re: wideband options?

    I'm on my third wideband system.


    I had an wideband commander first off which lasted about a month, then an innovate LC-1 which never worked at all, got an Innovate LM-1 at the mo and its spot on.

    Some will argue that there more advance systems with alot more functions but an LM--1 is a nice simple, reliable piece of kit.

    Mine cost 190quid off ebay, innovate don't make the LM-1 anymore and companies are selling off stock cheap

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    Re: wideband options?

    aem. was GOOD never had any probs with mine, ever. good bit of kit

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    Re: wideband options?

    Quote Originally Posted by mr white View Post
    aem. was GOOD never had any probs with mine, ever. good bit of kit
    Thats what i want to hear.

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    Re: wideband options?

    so... lc-1 waste of time, you might get lucky with one that works

    lm-1, all good, but no gauge, and arnt being made anymore

    aem, all good? and has a gauge

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    Re: wideband options?

    Quote Originally Posted by mr white View Post
    aem. was GOOD never had any probs with mine, ever. good bit of kit
    my ex's 5 had one (now r5gttboi's on here) and that was spot on in reliability, accuracy i can't say, as there was nothing to compare it too, but when i can spare the cash i'll be getting myself an AEM one..

    my lc-1 is still in my car after breaking years ago... need to remove that!

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    Re: wideband options?

    Quote Originally Posted by Os8472 View Post
    Some will argue that there more advance systems with alot more functions but an LM--1 is a nice simple, reliable piece of kit.
    and smaller

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    Re: wideband options?

    Lm1 ftw. Gauge in car all the time isnt that necessary imo, tune it once tune it right

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    Re: wideband options?

    Quote Originally Posted by markey b View Post
    and smaller
    Yes there are, but I'll stick with what works thanks

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    Re: wideband options?

    I've been borrowing an LM1 and it is very easy to use.

    Need one of my own really.

    I'd comfortably rate it as a must have tool in terms of engine tuning

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    Re: wideband options?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spooky View Post
    I've been borrowing an LM1 and it is very easy to use.

    Need one of my own really.

    I'd comfortably rate it as a must have tool in terms of engine tuning
    a tool for a tool....i knew it would suit me too..........

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    Re: wideband options?

    I'm THE tool to have for xmas this year

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    Re: wideband options?

    Quote Originally Posted by Brigsy View Post
    Lm1 ftw. Gauge in car all the time isnt that necessary imo, tune it once tune it right

    that doesnt help if you have any trouble tho.
    i want one permanently in my dash so i know of any issues as and when they happen.

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    Re: wideband options?

    If i have a problem i just pop the lambda sensor in the downpipe again.

    Lets face it if your on full boost around the back roads its extremely hard to keep your eye on the road and afr at the same time. If something happens on the fuel side or overboost etc causing it to lean off massively the damage is probably already done by the time your off the throttle anyway..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brigsy View Post
    If i have a problem i just pop the lambda sensor in the downpipe again.

    Lets face it if your on full boost around the back roads its extremely hard to keep your eye on the road and afr at the same time. If something happens on the fuel side or overboost etc causing it to lean off massively the damage is probably already done by the time your off the throttle anyway..
    major if you hit a tractor....

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    Re: wideband options?

    Quote Originally Posted by J$£5GTT View Post
    major if you hit a tractor....
    so how easy is this lm-1 to use guys?
    ive never seen or used one before,with me living so far up north there is no bugger up here that has any idea,so i cant go to them for set-up and even if there was the fact its a famous 5 everyone tends to run dont they?
    5 lamposts and detonation,is the famous saying i get told by everyone!!!!

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    Re: wideband options?

    theres also http://wbo2.com/3b1/default.htm good bit of kit.

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    Re: wideband options?

    Quote Originally Posted by mr white View Post
    aem. was GOOD never had any probs with mine, ever. good bit of kit
    agreed, not experienced the lm1 etc but have used an AEM gauge for a good while now and so far so good, its saved one blow up at least, (fuel pressure reg failed as it rusted out). in terms of easy to use its a doddle just plug it in. so suprised that not many others use it.

    while i'm on the subject is there a simple data logger that you can buy to monitor things? the AEM has a 0-5v output i think and no good me driving about with laptop in the car. is there something cheapish and easy to use as i'm just simply country folk!

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    Re: wideband options?

    Yeah, an LM-1

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    Re: wideband options?

    Think I'll be going with VEMS.

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    Re: wideband options?

    I've been casually looking into these myself, i'd personally like a gauge to monitor whilst driving........

    Is there enough interest to start a group-buy? and maybe save a few pennies?

    Obviously would need to confirm which unit/s we all want?!

    Your thoughts please??????????????

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    Re: wideband options?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wallace View Post
    I've been casually looking into these myself, i'd personally like a gauge to monitor whilst driving........

    Is there enough interest to start a group-buy? and maybe save a few pennies?

    Obviously would need to confirm which unit/s we all want?!

    Your thoughts please??????????????
    Rather than cut your idea down again lol i agree lets see what kind of support this could get

    Because you suggested it you gotta sort it

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    Re: wideband options?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mart View Post
    Yeah, an LM-1
    looking at graham goode its LM-2 now. guess if i was starting from scratch today then that may be where my money would go, but at the time so many were moaning about the innovative stuff and i just wanted to see what was going on AFR wise. still stand by the point if that what you just want a gauge in the car to see AFR then the AEM kit is a good shout as its so damn simple. anyone one know if any of the other little innovative boxs will do what i am looking for eg:

    http://www.grahamgoode.com/innovate/new/ot1.html

    no doubt i'm barking up the wrong tree on this one!

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    Re: wideband options?

    Quote Originally Posted by JRP View Post
    Rather than cut your idea down again lol i agree lets see what kind of support this could get

    Because you suggested it you gotta sort it

    If thats not steping on any of the big wigs toes - then i'm more than up for looking into it and making a few calls

    I agree that the AEM kit is probably the one to look into then? - especially if it's easy to use

    I'm away for the weekend but once i'm back i'll get the ball rolling, and post up some info..........if people can shed some light on interest then we'll set up a Group-Buy Thread

    Rol

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    Re: wideband options?

    Quote Originally Posted by James George View Post
    looking at graham goode its LM-2 now. guess if i was starting from scratch today then that may be where my money would go, but at the time so many were moaning about the innovative stuff and i just wanted to see what was going on AFR wise. still stand by the point if that what you just want a gauge in the car to see AFR then the AEM kit is a good shout as its so damn simple. anyone one know if any of the other little innovative boxs will do what i am looking for eg:

    http://www.grahamgoode.com/innovate/new/ot1.html

    no doubt i'm barking up the wrong tree on this one!
    Personally the gauge for me is to be able to always see what the cars doing, i'm very new to mechanics and anything more than a simple service and am just trying to perhaps make my car "idiot proof"

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    Re: wideband options?

    Im suere kenobi could offer a good group buy.. i know he has contacts to alot of gauge manufactures etc... ile chat to him see what he can do.

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    Re: wideband options?

    aem is looking good from where im sitting, a group buy on a aem and im interested

    gttjames

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    Re: wideband options?

    Yo ok, im on this as we speak. If some one can find me an exact model of something everybody would be happy with. I will go away and get uber discount and come back with prices.

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    Re: wideband options?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kenobi View Post
    Yo ok, im on this as we speak. If some one can find me an exact model of something everybody would be happy with. I will go away and get uber discount and come back with prices.

    Good man kenny ken. whats the best kit available though? is their an option maybe for a choice of two? really push the boat out ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JRP View Post
    Good man kenny ken. whats the best kit available though? is their an option maybe for a choice of two? really push the boat out ?
    If they are from same company there wont be a problem. If they are from 2 companys I have as suppliers there wont be a problem. Typically im on Holiday right now.

    do SPA-Digital do them?

    Or Race Technology?

    I know Graham Goode we have account with but they are pricey buggers over there. It would make sense to go str8 to manufacturer.

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    Re: wideband options?

    On holiday... knew you were on the job yesturday when i rang

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    Quote Originally Posted by JRP View Post
    On holiday... knew you were on the job yesturday when i rang

    LOL

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    Re: wideband options?

    Is this the one were going for then?

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/AEM-UEGO-Lambd...d=p3286.c0.m14

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    Re: wideband options?

    New poster! (less than 10 posts)

    Hi , I would also be very interested in a group buy

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    Re: wideband options?

    Quote Originally Posted by gttjames View Post
    Is this the one were going for then?

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/AEM-UEGO-Lambd...d=p3286.c0.m14

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    Re: wideband options?

    Quote Originally Posted by markey b View Post
    is this one easy to use guys?
    i have no knowledge of these afrs gauges in anyway,i have a bms pipe would there be anything else i need to buy or just this kit and that would get me set-up?
    like i say im after something that is easy to use but also not caveman!!
    i think after a few hrs ill have the hang of it,ive been planning one of these for a while but unable to do anything as had no bms pipe,also not really sure what to go for!!

    if this is suitable for my requirements,then im in for one of these


    my bms pipe arrived last month,so im good to go now

    cheers fellas

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    Re: wideband options?

    Quote Originally Posted by gttjames View Post
    Is this the one were going for then?

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/AEM-UEGO-Lambd...d=p3286.c0.m14

    Seems exactly the kind of thing i'm looking for

    I'll call these people tommorrow to get some more info on the product and just see what kind of discounts we can get? - then between Kenobi and myself we'll see what the score is............price/products etc.......it goes without saying that if we can get the same sort of deal through kenobi then we'll go that route as your obviously trying to run a business

    I'll start the names rolling and if it gets silly then perhaps a moderator can move the thread

    gttjames
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    Re: wideband options?

    providing it doesnt take weeks, im in.

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    Re: wideband options?

    I'm interested in this

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    Quote Originally Posted by raj View Post
    providing it doesnt take weeks, im in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JRP View Post
    ..

    My bad

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    Re: wideband options?

    put me down for one

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    Re: wideband options?

    Not really an update, but just so people know!

    I've called a couple of firms today - they said they would email me discount rates and more product info???!! but as is always the case they didn't........

    Will obviously be on the phone again tommorrow and hopefully have something of use.................

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    New poster! (less than 10 posts)

    thanks mate

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    Re: wideband options?

    cheers guys for trying to get this rolling, keep us all posted on any progress

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    Re: wideband options?

    Ummm-kay

    Maybe i'm just impatient, or perhaps expect too much

    But i've been on the blower again today to the same companies to see about discounts and they still haven't sent through anything, could be the fact my email address doesn't end in "@rtoc.org" and they think i'm just some random duuude!

    I'm persistant with them because (1) is the main uk distributor (so i believe!) (2) Seems the cheapest without any bartering (3) They too supply them!! - i won't keep blogging on here and filling it with nothing

    So just take my word for it, i am on the case and i too don't want this to take forever to come to some kind or conclusion!

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    Re: wideband options?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wallace View Post
    Ummm-kay

    Maybe i'm just impatient, or perhaps expect too much

    But i've been on the blower again today to the same companies to see about discounts and they still haven't sent through anything, could be the fact my email address doesn't end in "@rtoc.org" and they think i'm just some random duuude!

    I'm persistant with them because (1) is the main uk distributor (so i believe!) (2) Seems the cheapest without any bartering (3) They too supply them!! - i won't keep blogging on here and filling it with nothing

    So just take my word for it, i am on the case and i too don't want this to take forever to come to some kind or conclusion!
    good work

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    Re: wideband options?

    arent funkypower the main distributors for aem products.?

    a while ago i asked faz@ funkypower how much he would do 20 aem wideband kits for... he told me £190 so i didnt even bother following it up.

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