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    Fastest FWD uk drag car..

    So i beleave that CPLracing now has the record at 10.1@147mph in his Civic.. So 9s should be on the cards later in year with that trap.. Be good to see Andy Nics having a catch up.. I have a feeling theres going to be some fast cars this years.....

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    Re: Fastest FWD uk drag car..

    Bloody hell, is that today ? goal posts get moved further and further away.

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    Re: Fastest FWD uk drag car..

    Andy's posted a few 142mph runs, I don't think he'll catch that easilly though. I think his engine might be a bit too old skool to keep up with the Honda fraternity.

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    Re: Fastest FWD uk drag car..

    New poster! (less than 10 posts)

    A guy I used to work with had his type r treved up at cpl, bloody expensive stuff! the exhaust was around a thousand quid. He only had, cams, hondata ecu, airfilter ect, can remember how much power it had, but was far too loud for my liking, usual jap noise.
    But he was always up there as had problems with the clutch they fitted, top people sorted it out no extra cost, and the guy was telling me they were trying to talk him into having his car turbo'd or supercharged as they were devolping kits, and chasing 1/4 mile times, but he sold the car in the end, lost **** loads on it! It was a brand new type r, with afew grand of extras, then he spent another 8k on it, didnt see any of that back!

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    Re: Fastest FWD uk drag car..

    Quote Originally Posted by Scoff View Post
    Bloody hell, is that today ? goal posts get moved further and further away.
    No feb that time was done, chap at CPL seems a nice guy, sorting us out with hondata and RC`s and seemed interested in our project and very helpful. He never goes on the yank sites to see what others do with there cars over there as the k20s are pushing huge hp and times to match which makes his times look slow.. Hes just built and tested as he goes to his own taste.. Dont know his spec but i know his cars on 1600cc injectors

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    Re: Fastest FWD uk drag car..

    When you consider the k20 makes 200hp without any boost at all then 400hp sounds pittyfull, 600hp would be respectible. Saying that, he'll have something like that to run 147mph. How are the guys in the states getting into 9's ? gas ?

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    Re: Fastest FWD uk drag car..

    wasn't the fastest FWD drag car in the UK a rover 25?

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    Re: Fastest FWD uk drag car..

    would sticky hot, well prepared tracks. make masses of difference.

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    Re: Fastest FWD uk drag car..

    Quote Originally Posted by markey b View Post
    wasn't the fastest FWD drag car in the UK a rover 25?
    That's andy's car, it was the quickest at 10.2 @ 138. CPL are in the UK so they'll be number 1 now. Andy will still be number 1 in ESC though.

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    Re: Fastest FWD uk drag car..

    Quote Originally Posted by dave j gtt View Post
    would sticky hot, well prepared tracks. make masses of difference.
    not that much, santa pod is pretty good when they get it right. the US guys run 150+ mph trap speed, thats down to big HP.

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    Re: Fastest FWD uk drag car..

    Quote Originally Posted by Scoff View Post
    When you consider the k20 makes 200hp without any boost at all then 400hp sounds pittyfull, 600hp would be respectible. Saying that, he'll have something like that to run 147mph. How are the guys in the states getting into 9's ? gas ?
    Not may peeps use gas. The fastest D16 is 9.1 sec and he isnt on gas and thats a D motor..

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    Re: Fastest FWD uk drag car..

    I've heard it's 10.27 @ 147 Rob, still the fastest FWD, where did you hear 10.1 ??

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    Re: Fastest FWD uk drag car..

    I was scanning through a post somewhere with the comment of 10.1? maybe thats wrong then? either way he should be in 9s with that trap last time i seen his car sure he was on 22"s or 23"s drag.. get no where with them on...

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    Re: Fastest FWD uk drag car..

    looks like hes on 23s still , should be rolling with the 24.5s.... go blow his 60fts off scoff

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    Re: Fastest FWD uk drag car..

    Quote Originally Posted by Rob@Backyardracing View Post
    looks like hes on 23s still , should be rolling with the 24.5s.... go blow his 60fts off scoff
    it didn't look like a great launch really, did it ? what was he doing on the limmiter for so long. That's got some gonads though, I'd be happy with 10mph less than that.

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    Re: Fastest FWD uk drag car..

    Quote Originally Posted by Rob@Backyardracing View Post
    looks like hes on 23s still , should be rolling with the 24.5s.... go blow his 60fts off scoff
    I think 24.5 would have made his ratio's pretty horrible. Doesn't look like he was in 4th for very long before the trap.

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    Re: Fastest FWD uk drag car..

    10s 130s good target..... i think you will see that this year i wanted to see your 60fts on the 23s over the 22s. oh well.... the new tyre choice should work well, be investing in shafts, shoots and bars soon...

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    Re: Fastest FWD uk drag car..

    UPDATE

    CPL honda civic 10.08@148mph test and tune day April 4th.... 1.69 60ft so could do better ET... I can smell the first 9sec front wheel drive car in uk......
    Last edited by Rob@Backyardracing; 15-04-2009 at 21:23.

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    Re: Fastest FWD uk drag car..

    Quote Originally Posted by Rob@Backyardracing View Post
    UPDATE

    CPL honda civic 10.06@148mph test and tune day April 4th.... 1.69 60ft so could do better ET... I can smell the first 9sec front wheel drive car in uk......
    Bloody hell! Thats quite impressive, that won't be long before its i the 9's.

    Wonder if anyone will follow after them

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    Re: Fastest FWD uk drag car..

    iirc this is the 1000bhp civic, turbo'd on throttle bodies
    i have it in a mag some were, cant even rember what one it was but a awsome car,
    and a 10 second fwd car is ultumatly impressive

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    Re: Fastest FWD uk drag car..

    more to the point, when are we going to see a Renault in the 10s/130mph? If I'd known it was going to take this long I'd have had a crack at it

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    Re: Fastest FWD uk drag car..

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Cooke View Post
    more to the point, when are we going to see a Renault in the 10s/130mph? If I'd known it was going to take this long I'd have had a crack at it
    Have a crack at it with that twingo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfoot View Post
    Have a crack at it with that twingo
    LOL, it'll be a bit more sedate than that, high 90s maybe not sure how fast a 172 goes, it's gotta be 200Kg lighter.

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    Re: Fastest FWD uk drag car..

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Cooke View Post
    more to the point, when are we going to see a Renault in the 10s/130mph? If I'd known it was going to take this long I'd have had a crack at it
    Im sure scoff will do it this year just to add more pressure on him....


    Raider: CPL cant be 1000hp yet... but do able with the k20 lump...

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    Re: Fastest FWD uk drag car..

    Quote Originally Posted by Rob@Backyardracing View Post

    Raider: CPL cant be 1000hp yet... but do able with the k20 lump...

    mm
    must be a diffrent car. let me find it

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    Re: Fastest FWD uk drag car..

    ah i see i know what you mean now,

    the newer civic that cpl but the one im thinking of is a ep9

    750bhp

    http://www.hondatuningmagazine.com/f.../photo_01.html




    Edit: found it

    http://www.blazingtype-r.com/2009/02...24-1000hp.html

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    Re: Fastest FWD uk drag car..

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Cooke View Post
    more to the point, when are we going to see a Renault in the 10s/130mph? If I'd known it was going to take this long I'd have had a crack at it
    Aii, you should've

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    Re: Fastest FWD uk drag car..

    Scoff, a bit more boost should do it!!

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    Re: Fastest FWD uk drag car..

    This isn't a missed opportunity Andy, crack on

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    Re: Fastest FWD uk drag car..

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Cooke View Post
    more to the point, when are we going to see a Renault in the 10s/130mph? If I'd known it was going to take this long I'd have had a crack at it
    how about the renault espace f1 car? or more to the point a f1 r5

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    Re: Fastest FWD uk drag car..

    Go for it andy poor thing is sat there with half its guts on a miller or a lathe...

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    Re: Fastest FWD uk drag car..

    Quote Originally Posted by R5GTTRaider View Post
    ah i see i know what you mean now,

    the newer civic that cpl but the one im thinking of is a ep9

    750bhp

    http://www.hondatuningmagazine.com/f.../photo_01.html




    Edit: found it

    http://www.blazingtype-r.com/2009/02...24-1000hp.html
    that's IHP, Internet Horse Power, too many, coulda, shouldas, and no times to back it up

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    Re: Fastest FWD uk drag car..

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Cooke View Post
    that's IHP, Internet Horse Power, too many, coulda, shouldas, and no times to back it up
    that 2nd one ive seen run at santa pod so no its not ihp!

    tho a civic can easily make 8 seconds 1/4 mile

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    Re: Fastest FWD uk drag car..

    civics do run 8s so no one is against that word... so has this 1000hp ran at pod? if so what traps? and why doesnt he entry in to drag events... im sure ive seen the car sumwhere but CPLs civic has the record?? and cpl doesnt have 1000hp...

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    Re: Fastest FWD uk drag car..

    just becasue im set in my ways and the fact i hate being proven wrong

    tho.. this is it in its eairly stages

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrCJRCWIkX8

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgweQp1Y2Qo

    havent seen any new vids since and it was infact about 3 years ago i saw it

    tho going by the pics its changed alot

    so i dont see why it cant be the 900 bhp its said to be

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    Re: Fastest FWD uk drag car..

    Quote Originally Posted by R5GTTRaider View Post
    that 2nd one ive seen run at santa pod so no its not ihp!

    tho a civic can easily make 8 seconds 1/4 mile
    see, I've run my Delica at the Pod, and I've seen one trap over 150mph, would you believe me if I told you I had 1500hp?

    I do know what a Honda can do, I work with a guy from here

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0-tWHzUJRQ

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    Re: Fastest FWD uk drag car..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hhqyh...eature=related

    135mph with the plumbers tube on

    check the comments, best of 9.16@155

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    Re: Fastest FWD uk drag car..

    omg

    i cant dicribe how mental that is. shizzle that is abit hairy!! now sod ya tourqe steer, gimmie some rear steer

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    Re: Fastest FWD uk drag car..

    You see the spec of this mentioned 1000hp civic and from what ive read on yanky sites it could well put down 1000hp on a dyno, ive seen many doing so over there.. Central Florida guys have built there new k engine which is pushing 1000 now i beleave...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6S8W...eature=related

    But hasnt had a clean run:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68sU-...eature=related

    Now there old car was traping at 160mph and wasnt 1000hp there expect near or over 170 with this car i would have thought...

    From that clip at pod with that civic traping at 123mph shows either somthing is wrong with the car or it doesnt have that 1000hp being put down...

    Just to add here is a D16 1.6 SOHC record holder todate...Now hes got around 600hp and look at his trap speeds to suit.....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YccjIP9Qlsc


    So from the above its why im lead to beleave that there isnt a single front wheel drive UK car yet to put down its 1000hp on the track.

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    Re: Fastest FWD uk drag car..

    Is it just me, but whenever I see a 1/4 strip in America it appears that it slopes down about half way.

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    Re: Fastest FWD uk drag car..

    watching the run on the rolling road just makes me think cowboys, you need a bench dyno for stuff like that. Second thing I note is the power curve, they're going to have to rev it higher to get to 45psi...

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    Loving the turbo placement on this one

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tpv6mw3xRPU&NR=1

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    Re: Fastest FWD uk drag car..

    suppose it works tho steve!

    is a bit of a strange place but then the manifold would be roght behind the intercooler any way so not far for the piping to go, also, on track your unlikly to suck some thing up. maybe a fly but thats about it

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    Re: Fastest FWD uk drag car..

    Ok chaps, list here of the uks fastest fwd cars in 10s or lower, any missing post up...

    http://www.mitsubishi-fto.net/ukfastestfwd.htm

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    Re: Fastest FWD uk drag car..

    Quote Originally Posted by Rob@Backyardracing View Post
    Ok chaps, list here of the uks fastest fwd cars in 10s or lower, any missing post up...

    http://www.mitsubishi-fto.net/ukfastestfwd.htm
    Cool, who commissioned that ?

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    Richard B

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    Re: Fastest FWD uk drag car..

    Quote Originally Posted by Rob@Backyardracing View Post
    Richard B
    Should I know who he is ?

    In other news, I had a snoop around CPL's new setup on saturday and spoke a bit with Paul Creswell. There were some good nugets of info

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    Re: Fastest FWD uk drag car..

    Quote Originally Posted by Scoff View Post
    Should I know who he is ?

    In other news, I had a snoop around CPL's new setup on saturday and spoke a bit with Paul Creswell. There were some good nugets of info
    What that guys dropping out HKS next year .... fill me in lad what else is new? i didnt even bother going down this weekend in the end due to weather,you could have used all my tickets on gate for you and glen etc on sat...

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