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    Day 2 Formula 1 testing in Jerez

    Has anyone been keeping up on this seasons testing so far and the "anteater" noses?



    Seems like the vehicle thats done the most laps and got the most information on is the hiab recovery. Red bull, caterham, sauber and torro rosso failing to complete many laps.



    Jenson buttons helmet is a nice touch to his fathers recent passing.



    Already looks like Adrian Newy is complaining about the styles being prone to submarining in the event of an accident. Or does it sound like sour grapes as the new turbocharged renault RB10 clearly doesn't cut the mustard as much as the Ferrari, Maclaren and Mercedes?

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    Re: Day 2 Formula 1 testing in Jerez

    Adrian Newey would be an absolute legend, if only he'd move to a team I like, or maybe even if RB just replaced Vettel.

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    Re: Day 2 Formula 1 testing in Jerez

    Other than odd noses and a narrower rear wing the cars don't look that different tbh. The real changes are under the hood, as it were.

    Also the sound is quite different, more throaty, no high-end scream. I like it.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_GwL2KFw9I - Jerez testing.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bspbOiq810 - Hamilton at full chat

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    Re: Day 2 Formula 1 testing in Jerez

    Quote Originally Posted by Trevhib View Post
    Other than odd noses and a narrower rear wing the cars don't look that different tbh. The real changes are under the hood, as it were.

    Also the sound is quite different, more throaty, no high-end scream. I like it.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_GwL2KFw9I - Jerez testing.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bspbOiq810 - Hamilton at full chat
    Didn't floor pan aerodynamics ie F-duct ect get outlawed this season too?

    I was reading the lotus' s twin pronged frontage has a duct that runs through the car possibly to the turbo cold side or for cooling. Certainly some clearly new aerodynamic changes.

    Williams were like a metronome today which isn't a bad thing they've been off the top for far too long.

    I liked how they sent the "muck spreader" bowsers of water out for the wet and intermediate testing this morning, clever people!

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    Re: Day 2 Formula 1 testing in Jerez

    Oh yeah, there are tons of rule changes that affect the outside of the cars. I just meant that to the casual eye, other than the noses, there's nothing to call revolutionary.

    What we want to see is a caravan-type jockey wheel at the very front to stabilise that low nose. Now that would be a big change


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    Re: Day 2 Formula 1 testing in Jerez

    Nice thread I've had it on live update all day in work It's also on Sky in the evenings.

    Wow, the cars are ugly looking this year! The worst of them being the Caterham. The Ferrari looks like a hoover (as SB put it) some cars look like they've got a dildo stuck on the front! They certainly sound different - a lot quieter. I haven't fully made my mind up if I like the sound. Have you heard them under braking when the ERS starts harvesting? Very odd!

    There's been quite a lot of breakdowns which is no surprise. Vettle only managed about 8 laps I think it was today. I beleive the turbo went on him......

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    Re: Day 2 Formula 1 testing in Jerez

    Here is the Caterham with one fitted. More wind-tunnel time required.


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    Re: Day 2 Formula 1 testing in Jerez

    Lap times1. Jenson Button (McLaren) 1:24.165, 43 laps
    2. Kimi Raikkonen (Ferrari) 1:24.812, 47 laps
    3. Valtteri Bottas (Williams) 1:25.344, four laps
    4. Nico Rosberg (Mercedes) 1:25.588, 97 laps
    5. Sergio Perez (Force India) 1:28.376 , 37 laps
    6. Esteban Gutierrez (Sauber) 1:33.270, 53 laps
    7. Marcus Ericsson (Caterham) 1:37.975, 11 laps
    8. Sebastian Vettel (Red Bull) 1:38.320, 8 laps

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    Re: Day 2 Formula 1 testing in Jerez

    Quote Originally Posted by Trevhib View Post
    Here is the Caterham with one fitted. More wind-tunnel time required.

    To be fair trev if you cut the pegasus 3 berth top off and added an axel and wheels the chassis is the same

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    Re: Day 2 Formula 1 testing in Jerez

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    Nice thread I've had it on live update all day in work It's also on Sky in the evenings.

    Wow, the cars are ugly looking this year! The worst of them being the Caterham. The Ferrari looks like a hoover (as SB put it) some cars look like they've got a dildo stuck on the front! They certainly sound different - a lot quieter. I haven't fully made my mind up if I like the sound. Have you heard them under braking when the ERS starts harvesting? Very odd!

    There's been quite a lot of breakdowns which is no surprise. Vettle only managed about 8 laps I think it was today. I beleive the turbo went on him......
    I think the sound is amazing better than the v8s. More normal motorsport sounding, the revovery units sound almost like a version of wastegate chatter!

    Ted Kravitz has got a 20 minute video circulating on sky every couple of hours about the rules changes which is definitely an eyopener. Apparently Red bull have designed the radiators, wider housings for them for the rest of the field for the FIA.

    Rear wing looks.so flimsy with the center spines missing, even the ncameras for this season are removed from above the driver to parallel with the front wheels on a aerodynamic bracket.

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    Re: Day 2 Formula 1 testing in Jerez

    I doubt you'll hear the energy recovery under braking as that isn't much different to last year, it's more likely to be turbo related stuff; bypass, wastegate etc

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    Re: Day 2 Formula 1 testing in Jerez

    Sounds very different IMO I like it

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    Re: Day 2 Formula 1 testing in Jerez

    I'm liking the sound of them as well. I've only seen a little bit of the testing but to me, the Ferrari sounds very nice indeed

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    Re: Day 2 Formula 1 testing in Jerez

    Quote Originally Posted by The new Bill J View Post
    I'm liking the sound of them as well. I've only seen a little bit of the testing but to me, the Ferrari sounds very nice indeed
    the sound is fine, but I wonder how long it'll take before they don't sound like they're short shifting.

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    Re: Day 2 Formula 1 testing in Jerez

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Cooke View Post
    the sound is fine, but I wonder how long it'll take before they don't sound like they're short shifting.
    Good point! What are they rev'ing to?

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    Re: Day 2 Formula 1 testing in Jerez

    Quote Originally Posted by The new Bill J View Post
    Good point! What are they rev'ing to?
    interesting question, it depends....

    The rules say maximum 15K, or is it 15K5?, either way, with the fuel flow limited it won't be anything like that, probably under 11K, or holding a bit more if the gearing is wrong (only one set of ratios this year)

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    Re: Day 2 Formula 1 testing in Jerez

    They're definitely short-shifting then

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    Re: Day 2 Formula 1 testing in Jerez

    I listened to a sound bite ages ago, just as they were all finishing the engines and the first thing that I noticed was how quick they went through the gears.

    I think they sound ace, really looking forward to seeing how they all get on when the season starts.

    In the words of Barry Scott "you can't beat a bit of turbo power!"

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    Re: Day 2 Formula 1 testing in Jerez

    Love the sound they're making!!!

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    Re: Day 2 Formula 1 testing in Jerez

    Worth a few minutes of your time.

    Cleaver stuff

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4vIjJg0...%3D4vIjJg0lXgc

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