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    Hi Matt, you have me mistaken for Handy Andy.

    This is an insult on so many levels.

    Here endeth our dialogue.

    Best wishes and regards TNT Andy

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNT ANDY View Post
    Hi Matt, you have me mistaken for Handy Andy.

    This is an insult on so many levels.

    Here endeth our dialogue.

    Best wishes and regards TNT Andy
    I am so sorry sir, I shall there forth withe throw thy self into a pit of oblivion

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattk View Post
    I am so sorry sir, I shall there forth withe throw thy self into a pit of oblivion
    Don't do that - we need this car finishing

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    Re: R5 Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by TNT ANDY View Post
    Don't do that - we need this car finishing
    Oh ok then

    I've been sizing up what turbo to use and ECU. I was either going to go for a Borg Warner s200 or an equivalent Garret unit.

    For the ECU i was looking at the MoTec M84 or a DTA S60 PRO. Both of these can be integrated with the Dash2 display, and can run launch control and anti-lag

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattk View Post
    Oh ok then

    I've been sizing up what turbo to use and ECU. I was either going to go for a Borg Warner s200 or an equivalent Garret unit.

    For the ECU i was looking at the MoTec M84 or a DTA S60 PRO. Both of these can be integrated with the Dash2 display, and can run launch control and anti-lag
    Fancy a GT3071 ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattk View Post
    Oh ok then

    I've been sizing up what turbo to use and ECU. I was either going to go for a Borg Warner s200 or an equivalent Garret unit.

    For the ECU i was looking at the MoTec M84 or a DTA S60 PRO. Both of these can be integrated with the Dash2 display, and can run launch control and anti-lag
    What sort of power are you after out of the evo lump??

    I have decent Evo 9 80 series turbo if any good to you

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeanmGT5 View Post
    Fancy a GT3071 ??
    I don't know yet mate but I'll keep it in mind though buddy
    I'm after a quick response turbo just to help reduce lag and keep it quick

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    Re: R5 Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by James5 View Post
    What sort of power are you after out of the evo lump??

    I have decent Evo 9 80 series turbo if any good to you
    I'm after 450 at the hubs mate on the maximum setting, that's what the transmission will be able to handle all day long, if I push it any further it'll start breaking things

    Cheers for the turbo though mate but with the engine being in a longitudinal position the turbo needs to be rotated 180degrees so I think the only type of turbo that would work would be an evo 10 one.

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    Re: R5 Evolution

    3071 sounds small then, isn't that GT35 territory? Twin scroll? not sure what's all the rage these days

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Cooke View Post
    3071 sounds small then, isn't that GT35 territory? Twin scroll? not sure what's all the rage these days
    I'm gonna go for the smallest turbo I can use mate, so long as it's around 400-450 at the hubs that'll do nicely

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    Re: R5 Evolution

    Quote Originally Posted by mattk View Post
    I'm gonna go for the smallest turbo I can use mate, so long as it's around 400-450 at the hubs that'll do nicely

    something like this then http://www.lancerregister.com/showthread.php?t=449907

    internal gates, so nice neat install, these cars practically build themselves

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Cooke View Post
    something like this then http://www.lancerregister.com/showthread.php?t=449907

    internal gates, so nice neat install, these cars practically build themselves
    Wow love the response on that, it must be like an on/off switch that'll be what I'm after though mate, nice strong torque curve, and redline 8000rpm

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    Ive got one of them borg w sx200 things. Extended tip and twin scroll. Supposef to be minimal lag. We will see..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Cole View Post
    Ive got one of them borg w sx200 things. Extended tip and twin scroll. Supposef to be minimal lag. We will see..
    I've just been reading your thread and WOW!! That is a big turbo, I look forward to see how you get on with it

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    Re: R5 Evolution

    Hi guys, went to Dave's today to see how the cars coming along and discuss the direction in which to take. The engine is in its final resting place, and the front differential and frame will be set another 80-100mm backwards than in the pictures.

    This is means that the sump has to be slightly modified and at the same time we'll be increasing the capacity..... more lube is always better

    Another plus is that the engine sits below the bonnet line snug as a bug





    The inlet manifold was causing a problem, but came up with a plan to remove it from the flange and turn it upside down so its facing the correct way.















    Cheers for looking guys

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    I absolutely love this, please keep this thread up too the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nad-5GTT View Post
    I absolutely love this, please keep this thread up too the end.
    Cheers Nad, i will do mate don't worry

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    +1 fully subscribed. Please keep the updates coming mate, looks awesome

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    Prima/Campus whatever shells look so mint. I think I need to buy one for my project

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee-H View Post
    Prima/Campus whatever shells look so mint. I think I need to buy one for my project
    It was a real good purchase, I haven't shown it in the pictures but all the glass and doors are removed now, and all of the surrounds for the windows are solid, so really pleased with that. The bottom of the doors could be a little better but I'll soon sort them out.

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    Re: R5 Evolution

    This is more like it! Proper engineering going on! Some good stuff happening in the club at the moment what with crazy twingo's , 500+ bhp conversions , a turbo 2 restoration, evo engines and dare I say it my own attempts! Just need scoff to hit 1000bhp and we should get plenty of attention!

    Excellent this squire keep the pics coming!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Cole View Post
    This is more like it! Proper engineering going on! Some good stuff happening in the club at the moment what with crazy twingo's , 500+ bhp conversions , a turbo 2 restoration, evo engines and dare I say it my own attempts! Just need scoff to hit 1000bhp and we should get plenty of attention!

    Excellent this squire keep the pics coming!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Cole View Post
    This is more like it! Proper engineering going on! Some good stuff happening in the club at the moment what with crazy twingo's , 500+ bhp conversions , a turbo 2 restoration, evo engines and dare I say it my own attempts! Just need scoff to hit 1000bhp and we should get plenty of attention!

    Excellent this squire keep the pics coming!
    Cheers buddy, I'll keep the pictures coming

    I'd love to do the work myself, but I don't possess the skills or equipment to do it, plus Dave who is doing the work for me has more than enough experience to carry out this conversion

    Yea there are some fantastic projects in the club at the moment I may even get to make it to ND next and finally meet some of you guys the 5 won't be finished by then though
    Last edited by mattk; 20-10-2013 at 09:20.

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    Brilliant project

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattv6 View Post
    Brilliant project
    Thank you sir

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    Amazeing project this mate whats the plan bodywork wise. Also whats the plan for the rear axle?

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    This is a great project love all the work going into it love the idea. Evo engines are great and bhp potential is great with them. If yo u need any evo parts let me know I have a couple of friends that break evos up for parts quiet regular :-) comes in handy for myself


    Would you mind if I put a couple of pics up of this on the MLR forum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris View Post
    Amazeing project this mate whats the plan bodywork wise. Also whats the plan for the rear axle?
    Me too, would be great sleeper if bodywork left as it is as o.e r5gtt with 4x4 Evo drivetrain!

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    This project is awesome soo glad to see it being done.

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    Not sure about the new steering wheel location

    Love projects like this, will be following it to see how it comes along.

    There's a guy building a clio with a shortened subaru floor plan and running gear, maybe when they're both built you guys could get together for the weirdest age old battle of which is best 5 or clio, evo or scooby but evo powered 5 v scooby powered clio

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris View Post
    Amazeing project this mate whats the plan bodywork wise. Also whats the plan for the rear axle?
    Bodywork wise it'll be wide arch, and custom fabricated around the wheels. I'm going to go for a look like the current WRC cars.

    The rear axle will be a sierra cosworth setup, with a standard viscous rear differential slightly modified by Bara motorsport to handle the power output.

    This is a great project love all the work going into it love the idea. Evo engines are great and bhp potential is great with them. If yo u need any evo parts let me know I have a couple of friends that break evos up for parts quiet regular :-) comes in handy for myself


    Would you mind if I put a couple of pics up of this on the MLR forum?
    Cheers buddy, I'll PM you if i need anything Yep i decided to use the evo engine because its more easily tunable than the cossie unit and a more modern engine

    No i don't mind buddy if you want to pop a couple of pics on MLR, send us a link if you start a thread on it

    Me too, would be great sleeper if bodywork left as it is as o.e r5gtt with 4x4 Evo drivetrain!
    Sorry buddy due to the track width and for handling purposes it'll be wide arch, but in a tasteful way

    This project is awesome soo glad to see it being done.
    cheers mate

    Not sure about the new steering wheel location

    Love projects like this, will be following it to see how it comes along.

    There's a guy building a clio with a shortened subaru floor plan and running gear, maybe when they're both built you guys could get together for the weirdest age old battle of which is best 5 or clio, evo or scooby but evo powered 5 v scooby powered clio
    The new wheel location is perfect, whats wrong?????

    Nice Subaru running gear in a clio is it on the tinterweb? Link maybe?

    Dave who is building the chassis for me, says that another project that he's starting soon is a Focus running a thousand HP supra engine and R35/R34 running gear MENTAL!!!

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    Re: R5 Evolution

    Cliosport thread
    http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showt...Rooby-Clio-172

    Quite a bit of waffle to wade through but more info than on the Facebook page

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNT Tricky Nicky View Post
    Cliosport thread
    http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showt...Rooby-Clio-172

    Quite a bit of waffle to wade through but more info than on the Facebook page
    I like that, very nice job indeed won't be long till he's got that finished

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    Re: R5 Evolution

    This thing is going to be a weapon, is it going to be used for competition at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by g10far View Post
    This thing is going to be a weapon, is it going to be used for competition at all?
    Cheers mate afraid not it's purely a road car that'll be used for track days as well

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    Re: R5 Evolution

    Hi guys,

    A little update on the car. I got the inlet manifold sorted from my mate Chris, I'm going to use an Evo3 manifold with the mating flanges changed to fit my engine and house the injectors, doing it this way rotates the inlet so its facing forwards. So the flow of air will be straight out of the top of the intercooler and into the inlet perfect minimal length boost pipes.

    Turbo wise I've purchased an Evo10 turbo with delivery miles, so i was happy about that The way the turbo will be positioned on the manifold will have it facing forwards and the outlet from the compressor facing vertical, so it'll be straight out of the top of the compressor housing, 90 degree bend facing forwards, and straight into the top of the intercooler, again minimal length boost pipes=minimal lag

    The front uprights have arrived as well and the front driveshafts are inbound as I'm typing, so Dave can finish off building the front up and can order the shock and spring adjustable coilover setup from AVO.

    The wheelbase would of increased slightly, along with the track width, so I'll have to come up with the final idea soon on how the arches are going to sit

    Cheers for looking guys

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    Re: R5 Evolution

    well done bud

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    Quote Originally Posted by allanr5gtt View Post
    well done bud
    Cheers mate

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    Re: R5 Evolution

    Have you thought about the shell twisting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by allanr5gtt View Post
    Have you thought about the shell twisting?
    Yes mate, this was one of the first things that was talked about. Once the chassis has been fabricated then there will be a cage installed which will pick up off the front and rear turrets and the floor bracing the shell together.

    Plus i was thinking of having the seams stitch welded for extra strength, do you guys think it's worth it?

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    Re: R5 Evolution

    Hey guys,

    Bit of an update for you. The engine position and mounts are now in, and the front subframe





    From the pictures you can see that all mounts need final finishing, all the edges and mounts will be rounded and look as though they are oem.

    The engine side braces are unfinished at the moment and will have extra bracing just underneath the main support creating a triangular shape.







    A lot of the work has gone into the sump. At the front as you can see a small section has been removed to accommodate the front subframe. At the back of it though a larger section has been fitted to hold more oil. The oil pick up and everything inside still retains all the standard Mitsubishi equipment.



    This is one of the main points we wanted to achieve having the engine sitting as far back as possible to eliminate as much understeer from the start.

    Solid windscreen surround



    The engine is off center slightly to accommodate the front prop shaft and differential, but the way it is angled means that the end of the gearbox will be perfectly central so the rear prop shaft will be nice and straight.





    Thanks for looking guys

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    Re: R5 Evolution

    Such a great project

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    Re: R5 Evolution

    Epic...just Epic

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    Totally awesome, a cracking project.

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    Nice work as usual Matt.

    Q - Is the bonnet going to shut?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNT ANDY View Post
    Nice work as usual Matt.

    Q - Is the bonnet going to shut?
    Thank you for the comments guys

    Yes mate, I haven't taken a photo of it but it is quite close to the bonnet, and it'll be locked using two lockable flush aerocatches on either corner.

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    wow. cant wait to see this finished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smithyr5gt View Post
    wow. cant wait to see this finished.
    I know me too

    I managed to order an exhaust manifold that has a 4G63 flange and the correct orientation for the TD05, fingers crossed that'll be here mid next month.

    With regards to the exterior I've decided to utilise standard GTT parts and modify them to fit the extra width of the car. I know it sounds a bit bodge it and scarper but honestly it'll have a high quality oem style finish to it

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    sounds good. im sure it will be great when finished.

    a friend of mine has just finished his maxi build. 7 years. 7000 hours and 93 grand. body is exact rep as the original maxi but the engine is pushing 500+ hp. its a marvel just to look at let alone drive

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    Quote Originally Posted by smithyr5gt View Post
    sounds good. im sure it will be great when finished.

    a friend of mine has just finished his maxi build. 7 years. 7000 hours and 93 grand. body is exact rep as the original maxi but the engine is pushing 500+ hp. its a marvel just to look at let alone drive
    wow 500+hp in a maxi that'll be a lot of fun to drive is it a competition car at all? Is it still running the 1400cc engine or something else?

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