Eventually i'm going to upgrade the suspension all round, as its all original as far as i can see, and re-newing all is just on the cards at some point.....
My question is, what should i go for?
The car is going to be road use, with maybe a thrashing at national day on track
But i think budget is the biggest factor, i've looked into GAZ for example, but i'm getting married next year so cant really be spending £500+ on the parts to be honest!
What'd reakon?
Last edited by Wallace; 23-10-2012 at 10:39.
I got konis from cgb was a good price there not adjustable but cheap have a look buddyOriginally Posted by Wallace
Eventually i'm going to upgrade the suspension all round, as its all original as far as i can see, and re-newing all is just on the cards at some point.....
My question is, what should i go for?
The car is going to be road use, with maybe a thrashing at national day on track
But i think budget is the biggest factor, i've looked into GAZ for example, but i'm getting married next year so cant really be spending £500+ on the parts to be honest!
What'd reakon?
Koni yellows are a good comprimise between handling and comfort on a road car. Wouldnt bother with coilovers unless you want custom spring ratings or slammed to the weeds
Ah ok, always thought Koni's we're only adjustable-thanks fellas I'll have a look into it
The rebound is adjustable on koni yellows but not the rideheight.
Just spoke to CGB, they no longer sell Koni.
They have offered a full set of Apex, for £185+vat! But what's people's opinions on Apex?
Or anywhere else for Koni?
Cheers
Sorry i just looked at mine and there apex they seem fine theres a couple of lads on here with them i suppose you get what you pay for
These guys have them listed on there site.
http://www.venommotorsport.com/manuf...enault&model=5
I use the Apex 50mm kit no issues
Get Koni yellows if you can over Apex tho.
I have never had Konis, so can't comment on the above posts!
I have AVO coilovers all round, I picked them up on eBay for £250 brand new...
They work a treat and are adjustable. Once you set the ride height, you dont really mess around with it... I guess the same for the dampner settings but the option is there is you want to have a play.
I've fitted a fair few Apex suspension kits and just springs and have been suprised at how well the cars drove, for the price they are a good bit of kit
Konis are a top choice but as mentioned are rare to come across, the Apex are a worthy one to go for
As Brigsy says, i would personally avoid coilovers unless you going low or track use they are just abit too harsh for everyday road use
Sound advice as always, nice one
Totally agree you get what u pay for, but budget is definitely the biggest obstacle now the cars road worthy,and just too much other 'stuff' to pay for!
I think aslong as people don't think they are ****e,then looks like I'll go for Apex then!
Thanks again fella's
I originally lowered the rear and put some apex 50mm springs in all on standard shocks, was fine to start with. Then i got the 5 out again this year and it was so bouncy and all over the road, sourced some koni yellow shocks front and rear and fitted them, and there 2nd hand and they made alot of difference, not as bumpy and doesnt bounce you all over the road
I have coilies on my 5, Gaz ones, they are superb but at the rear they are a little harsh, bouncing everywhere! but on track they are spot on
Koni. Every time.
Unfortunately the SSK10 is the thick end of a monkey these days, and 2nd hand jobbies are hard to come by.
That's really the bottom line for me,they are just too much,well at the minute anyway-but when alls said and done,I'm not buying anything yet as I'm about to start the bathroom in our house.
Once that's done I'll have better idea of where I'm at with money.
Goes without saying,if the monies there I'll get the Koni's cause I know how favoured they are within the RTOC
Think the rears came from me-SHOCKER
But at the time wasn't even sure I could keep the car,let alone spares doing nothing!
Good luck to ya
Just tell the mrs that you think the bathroom is fine as it is and what you both really need is some konis u am sure she will be fine and maybe even praise you for the great idea
I wonder if Koni-UK would entertain the idea of a group buy? Mind you, even with a GB discount, I'd be surprised to see a figure the right side of £400, which is still too much of a hit on the wallet...
could be worth a ask? I would be interested in a new set as how well the 2nd hand ones iv got are
i was 2nd in line for yours mate, yours went to someone elseThink the rears came from me-SHOCKER
But at the time wasn't even sure I could keep the car,let alone spares doing nothing!
Good luck to ya
Just tell the mrs that you think the bathroom is fine as it is and what you both really need is some konis u am sure she will be fine and maybe even praise you for the great idea
Honestly darling we NEED Koni's
I'll try and buzz them tmrw, worth a punt anyway
Ahhh yeah I remember now-they went to Gary I'm sure!
Sorry
Hi all,
Just a real quick update,spoke to Koni. It would appear for a quantiy of 10+ they will do a kit: Fronts+Rears+Springs @ £320.40 (including VAT & Delivery)
Before go any further: what do you all think?
I'm sure some peps will just want fronts or just want rears,we'll deal with that at a later date,more interested on thoughts of the price!
Last edited by Wallace; 27-10-2012 at 22:47.
Top man for making the phone call
That's a good price, which just goes to show how much mark-up Larkspeed & the such like are putting on with the kits they sell
Is 10 the minimum order, or would they consider selling one-off's direct to joe public?
that is a good price, is that the adjustable ones?
That's a damn good price!
Wow at that price I'd be tempted.
Hopefully that's for the SSK10 kit: 2 x adjustable fronts, 2 x adjustable rears, 2 x -35mm springs.
That is cheap, i paid about £250 for a pair of front struts a couple of years back
Will this be happening anytime soon? Im defo looking into a new set up..
I could be up for some of this depending on when it happens, i've been keeping an eye out for some new suspension, but as its in for a full respray at the moment the funds are a bit low
I could be up for some of this depending on when it happens, i've been keeping an eye out for some new suspension, but as its in for a full respray at the moment the funds are a bit low
yer same, iv just done a engine rebuild 2months ago, now the turbos let go so need a new turbo. Am doing windscreen surround and a few other panels aswell over xmas... But the price is very tempting
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Koni-Renau...item3f1b1610e6
These are the ones.................? - Did ask if he was offering a cheaper item, but said no!
I assume/hope these are the SSK10??
They won't sell singular items to individuals, they'll just get you to call a distributor. He said i can purchase them as its a 'bulk order' - which basically means its worth their while.
The kit itself, would be 2xFronts + 2xrears + 2x Springs, but they are 40mm drop!!!
With regards to the springs, he told me koni no longer make them for the 5, but can offer a different brand: 'leisure force' also known as 'rock' - both mean nothing to me?
As for when this is happening, in effect nothing is actually happening as yet, i've just purely picked up the phone out of interest, and it would appear that they CAN offer a good deal?
Part Nos:
Fronts 8741/1167/Sport
Rears 26/1299/Sport
Just as an example to:
Fronts would be £126.65+Vat EACH!!!! - But the kit price, and the 10+ quantity makes them £75.00+Vat each
Long and short for me is that at that price i'm tempted too, couldn't be at a worse time though money wise..........so perhaps if there is enough interest, i'll set up a group buy thread, and we could try and arrange it for a time that suits all - obviously though, if we are going to go down that route, this time of year is pretty tight for most? (with xmas coming!) BUUUUTTT we dont want it to just drift on and on..............
The do do a cheaper Koni now. It seems to be coloured red though. And perhaps is not adjustable.
I would be inclined to fit harder springs. In fact, I did. They were great. It rolled quite a bit less on roundabouts and back doubles.
This thread should be in 'Group Buys' now?
Found the link to the cheaper ones; these are for Fiat: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2809430794...84.m1438.l2649
They have made the koni red for years ian, its just a basic non adjustable replacement damper really. Agreed harder springs would be better.
i have a pair of koni (yellow struts) there used but have no springs. sold them to another 5 owner. the struts are in good nick no leaks etc.if anyone wants em drop me a pmopen to offers as iv no idea what there worth.
got a few pms on these. will dig em out the box in the garage and take some pictures for everyone whos asked. damping adjusters work perfect no leaks etc. and people keep asking on price. i really dont know. i will get pics up and if anyone has any idea of a value please say.
First post!
Hi guys, new to the club today and just to say i am a defo if you're going ahead with the Koni purchase. There's a whole raft of other bits i need too so will keep an eye out on the forums ... will introduce myself proper soon but long an short is i got bent over for the mucho £s 5 turbo on Pistonheads a few months back from 4 Star Classics.
Cheers - Jon
Hi Jon,
Welcome to the club, out of interest what one did you buy from 4 star classics? 1 was owned by a club member... one wasnt...
Yes was it the Black or Tungy?
Hi btw
Bet it was the black one....
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hi, i bought the tung; i missed out on the black one
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hi appols i'm just getting to grips with how to post on this site etc ... is there a story with either ... as in something i dont want to know !!!!?/?/!!!!
https://rtoc.org/boards/showthread.php?t=26973
Thats about the black one..... btw ignore negative comments about price etc... alot of tight members on here..
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