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    Re: Still Not Idling

    Do it please Mr Raj.

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    Re: Still Not Idling

    lol @ the loads of people just waiting eagerly to see what happens with the new cam with more interest than raj. Hope it works m8.

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    Re: Still Not Idling

    Like said b4 its like a mini series that went bigger........Come on raj

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    Re: Still Not Idling

    for gods sake raj get on with it

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    Re: Still Not Idling

    we need some background music to add some suspense... lol

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    Re: Still Not Idling

    ...the suspense is killing me! Huuuuurry up!

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    Re: Still Not Idling

    Whats happening Raj???

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    Re: Still Not Idling

    raj, dont upset your viewers, theres gonna be public outbursts and rioting soon

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    Re: Still Not Idling

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    omg jus spent ages reading this the suspense is crazy jus want to know what happened!
    hope uve got it sprted Raj.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BriC View Post
    i agree

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    Re: Still Not Idling

    obviously stalling cos its still not working and the cam aint the problem.... shoddy workmanship if you ask me.

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    Re: Still Not Idling

    a part that you were missing eh?? maybe the reason why it didnt idle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparkie View Post
    a part that you were missing eh?? maybe the reason why it didnt idle
    not at all, it's just the idle speed control valve

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    so how did the engine idle after i'd built it with the same cam in?

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    I fear the worst mate, if I'm being honest; ie, that the cam you've removed isn't the root of your problem Hope I'm wrong though

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    Hope it's all now tickity boo mate. If not, perhaps ya man Sparkie there needs to cast his hairy hands over your engine again?

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    if scoff and co cant sort it, i doubt my 'hairy hands' will have the sparkle to perform miracles.

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    Still no joy then Raj?

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    Quote Originally Posted by raj View Post
    i "think" ive found the problem..!!!!!

    scoff.. dont shoot me down as you did mention this when you was round so going on what you said i thought id check AAAAND............................ive noticed the inlet ports in my head are smooth when "compared" to all my other spare heads!! so im assuming its been ported at some point.!
    what actually made me take the head off AGAIN was i remembered seeing the squish area machined.! which made me think "has it been fettled with in other areas!

    so im thinking ive found the cause of the idle problem

    just got to put it back together after ive roughened up the inlet ports

    so the question is.. What grade sand paper should i use to do this? and should sand the ports in an in/out motion or left/right.?

    what a feck around



    Feck knows but i've still got my fingers and toes crossed.......COME ON MY SON!!!!

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    Re: Still Not Idling

    Just pour some sand into the carb



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    Raj i wouldnt use sand paper mate, a bit of emory cloth should do the trick i would have said, you wont have to worry about leaving sand behind?

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    Re: Still Not Idling

    What about a dremmel?

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    Re: Still Not Idling

    How is a smooth inlet tract gonna stop the car from idling?

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    Quote Originally Posted by raj View Post
    that'll prolly smoothen them off even more
    now go back to sleep
    Personally, I just wanted to see you pour sand in your carb

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mart View Post
    How is a smooth inlet tract gonna stop the car from idling?
    Something to do with the inlet ports not mixing the air and fuel enough (Atomising- not sure thats the right word)

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    Quote Originally Posted by raj View Post
    emery cloth? whats that? sounds a better idea.
    Its basically sand paper but a bit courser and doesnt leave the paper, its red in colour?

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    Never heard of that mate

    http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/s...egoryId_165610

    Have a butchers at this, you can get it on a roll which is easier!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Hebden View Post
    Something to do with the inlet ports not mixing the air and fuel enough (Atomising- not sure thats the right word)
    It was a rhetorical question mate.

    Atomisation initially (and in the majority) takes place in the carb venturi & inlet manifold throat/headers.

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    errr, ok are you saying the head you have on has no squish area?

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    Re: Still Not Idling

    isn't that the infamous gr.A head mod?

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    Part of the squish area can be removed if ya trying to lower the c/r (after a head-skim for example), so nothing abnormal there.

    Again, I fear you're barking up the wrong tree

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    Re: Still Not Idling

    just a thought raj me old mukka.....do you have the water pipes connected up to the inlet manifold heating element?

    how smooth are your inlet ports? - shiny as in mirror finish, or are they still matt finish, with faint scratches in across the runner...not lengthways down it.

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    Re: Still Not Idling

    how well do your gaskets/manifolds match that fancy head?

    You might want to check your combustion chamber volume now that it's apart, standard is 43.4cc.

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    i would have said your runners are fine.

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    what happened to "its a totally standard cylinder head" raj

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    Can someone point out too me the machined part on the head as i cant recognise it please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Hebden View Post
    Can someone point out too me the machined part on the head as i cant recognise it please?
    the top and bottom of each chamber in that pic chris, there's normally a flat ledge. google-images squish or quench area, better than someone trying to describe it.

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    Thanks for that Scoff, this is getting more confusing as time goes on!

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    so basically, nothing appears to be standard on this engine at all?
    what next N/A 1.1 pistons, cos you wanted to save a few bob?

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    Hello?? Am I the only one here not grasping the fact why the head/runners are causing the engine to not idle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mart View Post
    Hello?? Am I the only one here not grasping the fact why the head/runners are causing the engine to not idle?
    that was one of the 1st things I discussed with raj when I visited, I don't think they're smooth enough to worry about, maybe not ? he told me they were standard / not polished.

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    Re: Still Not Idling

    I think the head inlet ports/tracts would have to be super polished/mirror finish before you could possibly point the finger at them for causing a cr8p idle, but even then I'm not totally convinced, as, as mentioned earlier, the majority of fuel atomisation takes place in the venturi/inlet throat/manifold.

    Maybe on an efi setup, where the injector(s) is nearer to the inlet port(s), then it's feasible, but I can't see it on the gtt's carb'd setup, not when there's a fair 'distance' between venturi & head ports for the atomisation to take place.

    I might be completely wrong, and I hope I am, in that you finally get your engine running properly, but I do personally think you're barking up the wrong tree with this one.

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    well, yeah, your right ofcourse mart but trust me, when you hunt around that engine you'll be grasping at straws just like I was

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    Re: Still Not Idling

    Quote Originally Posted by raj View Post
    decided not to re-fit this modded head this probs gone on far too long
    so! im just in the process of cleaning up/lapping valves in etc a std head ready to fit

    i just hope for the sake of the 5 that the modded head was the problem! knowing my luck it wont be

    just a question regarding fitting this std head..- how can i be 100% its flat.? im not confident with a metal ruler etc. just wondering,do places that skim heads offer to check a head for flatness?
    if you are not 100% . then have it cleaned up . ie not a full skim . just a clean. to be safe .

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    Quote Originally Posted by raj View Post
    M8 i'm over the moon for ya.......Also pleased this story has a happy ending unlike some series's.......Happy boosting dogg

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    good to hear m8!

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