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    Re: 1990 tungsten/first rebuild

    Done yourself proud OP

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    Re: 1990 tungsten/first rebuild

    Nice to see your making progress fella

    Your liking my old turbo then

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    Re: 1990 tungsten/first rebuild

    Quote Originally Posted by Os8472 View Post
    Nice to see your making progress fella

    Your liking my old turbo then

    cheers buddy...

    yes im very happy with the turbo... once it gets going, the pull of it is fantastic!

    With it fitted I seem to be getting better mpg as I am not boosting as much, so that is a bonus too ........... but on boost - the fuel guage drops fast

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    Re: 1990 tungsten/first rebuild

    Quote Originally Posted by tubbyG View Post
    cheers buddy...

    yes im very happy with the turbo... once it gets going, the pull of it is fantastic!

    With it fitted I seem to be getting better mpg as I am not boosting as much, so that is a bonus too ........... but on boost - the fuel guage drops fast

    Yep it'll do that lol, I found that a little boost out of corners caused me to keep my foot down for sh*ts and giggles and that lead to worse mpg lol

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    Re: 1990 tungsten/first rebuild

    back to the tinkering again

    drivers side wheel bearing was totally fecked (thanks to advice in tech thread), but when I was stripping down I also noticed a destroyed ball jointand a spit boot on the driveshaft - easy fixes though

    But now I am not getting any more pressure than 10psi at the manifold My home made actuator bracket was flexing toward the waste gate so was reducing turbo pressure. So I now have a new bracket made up which is holding, I have wound the actuator rod so it will move no more and still I am only seeing 10psi.

    I have checked for boost circuit leaks, and also for split vac pipes- replacing a couple of them...next step is the actuator. Is there any tests I can do with it to see if this is the cause, or is the only way to replace it and see if more boost can be had?

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    Re: 1990 tungsten/first rebuild

    boost is now sorted!...... and after some more carb tweaking I am now boosting to......24psi (new clutch soon I think) also renewed all vaccum pipes while I was at it.

    I only had to modify my actuator bracket so that the rod now sits more flush with the wastegate flap - problem solved


    I have moved the tdc sensor slightly to give me some retard untill I can get it checked foor det on the rollers. Im hoping to go for my first power run in a few weeks time

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    Re: 1990 tungsten/first rebuild

    24psi

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    Re: 1990 tungsten/first rebuild

    in my quest to stop the carb bowl from emptying I have renewed the fuel filter, so will see how much difference it makes to fueling before I look at other mod's.
    old filter has seen better days


    so I had to turn the boost down to 20psi to stop it emptying, and also to try and prolong my clutch's life untill I got my paddle clutch back from a refurb.

    but recieved a nice parcel yesterday and here it is!



    really great service from these guys, decent price and fast turn around

    plans for this weekend is to get it fitted along with a new driveshaft, oil and filter change..... then turn the boost back up

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    Re: 1990 tungsten/first rebuild

    After some ball ache and plenty swearing yesterday i have got my gearbox out, ended up just lifting it up out the bay.

    i have the new clutch fitted but i have noticed some of the splines on the clutch cover plate to be slightly bent inwards. its not much really perhaps a few mm, must have been while stored in the garage.

    Now Will this cause any issue or am I fussing over nothing?

    Cant see much but Here is a quick pic of it fitted

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    Re: 1990 tungsten/first rebuild

    Looks like you have a bolt missing from the clutch cover...? At about 1 o'clock.

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    Re: 1990 tungsten/first rebuild

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt@CodeRedMotorsports View Post
    Looks like you have a bolt missing from the clutch cover...? At about 1 o'clock.
    Well spotted... Its in now.. i took the pic just to show the splines

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    Re: 1990 tungsten/first rebuild

    No worries

    I did have a slight problem when we fitted a paddle clutch to Oli Davis cup car, basically the clutch fingers seemed too long.... With the clutch pedal fully depressed, the clutch was dragging, as the fingers were touching the centre plate.
    Not saying you will have the same fault.... As I think we had a slight conflict with the combination of parts.
    Easy fix though....

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    Re: 1990 tungsten/first rebuild

    had a few hours to myself today so I degreased and painted the gearbox

    from this mess

    to this



    and inbetween the rain showers I put it back in the bay and got it all bolted up.


    If I manage to get time tomorrow I will get the turbo back on along with the exhaust...getting there slowly

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    Re: 1990 tungsten/first rebuild

    Well I havent done much to the 5 in a long time, except remove more parts.. 3weeks holiday in europe and work have stolen all my 5 time

    I had a sheared stud inside the exhaust manifold - I couldn't drill it out, so I now have a replacement manifold which is heat wrapped Turbo will be bolted on properly this time with no leaks.

    so along with the manifold I have new drive shafts and track rod ends needing fitted to get it through an mot - dying to get it on the road again soon as, need some boost while the roads are still relatively dry

    I have also bought a nice new efi fuel pump to aid the fueling, but if I am still needing more juice then it will be time to upgrade the fpr.

    compared to my old pump

    Hoping to have it all together on monday...

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    Re: 1990 tungsten/first rebuild

    let us know if the fuel pump sorts it

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    Re: 1990 tungsten/first rebuild

    Quote Originally Posted by gttjames View Post
    let us know if the fuel pump sorts it
    will do mate

    My fpr looks a little sorry for itself under loads of gunk and the rusty bracket so really tempted just to get a new one anyway to ensure everything is tip-top, but still deciding which one is best suited

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    Re: 1990 tungsten/first rebuild

    its taken alot longer than I expected but the 5 is now back on all 4's ...just need to get it booked in for an mot now as she's ready for some winter boosting!!

    the plan was to just change the clutch over to a paddle type.... but it turned into a mini overhaul. I ended up replacing the track rod ends, exhaust manifold, sump,Spax psx front and rear shocks. also adding a mocal oil cooler and some 50mm springs upfront on the new shocks.
    The worst part was cleaning then undersealing the underside - i looked like I had been down the mines for a wk













    butchered mount to get the mocal sandwich plate to fit


    all together and now with a ching chong china turbo blanket

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    Re: 1990 tungsten/first rebuild

    Looking awesome

    Well done chap - you've got to be happy

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    Re: 1990 tungsten/first rebuild

    Quote Originally Posted by TNT ANDY View Post
    Looking awesome

    Well done chap - you've got to be happy
    Delighted mate. Although the paddle clutch is a pretty savage though, so will take some getting used to. happy with its new stance... The extra 20mm drop at the front has made a huge difference. Looking forwards to boosting again

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    Re: 1990 tungsten/first rebuild

    Looks good mate bet you cant wait to get out in it again

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    Re: 1990 tungsten/first rebuild

    Looks very good mate.

    With the underseal, did you just wire brush it and then paint on the underseal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiamR View Post
    Looks very good mate.

    With the underseal, did you just wire brush it and then paint on the underseal?
    Thanks mate
    I used a wallpaper scraper to get all the old underseal and crud off and wire attatchment on a drill for the awkward areas.

    Scraper worked really well as it was easier to sweep up bigger chunks than loads of small particles
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    Re: 1990 tungsten/first rebuild

    Quote Originally Posted by tubbyG View Post
    Thanks mate
    I used a wallpaper scraper to get all the old underseal and crud off and wire attatchment on a drill for the awkward areas.

    Scraper worked really well as it was easier to sweep up bigger chunks than loads of small particles

    Cheers for the answer bud

    I'll be using that technique then. Hoping to get mine done next week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiamR View Post
    Cheers for the answer bud

    I'll be using that technique then. Hoping to get mine done next week.

    Good luck mate... Get wrapped up, gloves the lot... Its an 'orrible job

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    Re: 1990 tungsten/first rebuild

    Well today the 5 finally got its 12 months ticket!

    only issue was that I needed the drivers seat welded a little as it was slack and would have been a failure
    So went for my first boosting session in 2 months tonight and it felt great... although a little frightning at times so I have turned the boost down to 20psi till I get someone to listen for det.

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    Re: 1990 tungsten/first rebuild

    Well done mate, niceone! looking at the reg is might have originally been from this neck of the woods in Norwich area maybe?

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    Re: 1990 tungsten/first rebuild

    Possibly Macavelli's old 5???

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    Re: 1990 tungsten/first rebuild

    Cheers.

    Ah that's interesting, I was actually wonderin where it came from due to a recent thread. I bought it from Ayrshire 3 years ago and I'm the 17th owner (slaaag) so its been about

    It was originally white.

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    Re: 1990 tungsten/first rebuild

    managed to get myself an O.E front grill in tungsten

    Its a long way from being in good condition, broken clips and cracked fins etc but im delighted with how it looks for now till I get it repaired.



    so much nicer than the open mouth grill I had on. Really improves the front end. Tempted to get some std speedlines with 888's on it now for next year

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    Re: 1990 tungsten/first rebuild

    well I have just been towed home from what was an exciting adventure involving the 5, the fire brigade and the police!!!


    pics to follow

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    Re: 1990 tungsten/first rebuild

    Oh dear, that is not sounding good.

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    Re: 1990 tungsten/first rebuild

    looks like the piping to my oil pressure gauge melted resulting in a load of oil being dumped onto the exhaust manifold......




    I was just out for a quick boost to check fueling as it was dry. On my way home smoke filled the cabin, immediatley shut off and pulled over, lifted the bonet to find the exhaust manifold and head wrap were alight

    Disconnected battery and reached for the water (lucky I keep a 5L container behind the seat) and threw it on. was still burning - a sprint to the stream beside me to refil the water, and after this lot the flames were out

    within 5 mins the fire brigade were there, quickly followed by the five-o........

    there was no fire for them, but they insisted on blasting more water on to be sure...

    my dad soon arrived with the van and a tow bar so we could carry out the "Tow of shame"

    not alot of damage tbh, engine starts up and runs as normal just tdc wire, knock sensor and some vacuum pipes melted - lucky escape I reckon

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    Re: 1990 tungsten/first rebuild

    A very lucky escape.... Bit of cleaning for you to do...

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    Re: 1990 tungsten/first rebuild

    ****buzz man, really sorry to hear that

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    cheers. not looking too bad really, I think I have all replacement pipes/wiring in boxes in the garage so shouldnt be out of action for too long

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    Re: 1990 tungsten/first rebuild

    Glad you managed to put the fire out. Out of interest where was the capillary pipe run for the oil pressure gauge?

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    Re: 1990 tungsten/first rebuild

    Glad you and car wernt hurt to bad was it a braided?

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    Lucky escape! Get a fire extinguisher bought if you already havent...them plastic pipes for capillary gauges are ****e, seen many spring a leak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brigsy View Post
    Lucky escape! Get a fire extinguisher bought if you already havent...them plastic pipes for capillary gauges are ****e, seen many spring a leak.
    I just plumbed in my gauge but used a braided line but i wrapped in insulation tape to stop it chaffing

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    Re: 1990 tungsten/first rebuild

    The oil gauge pipe ran up the front of the block and was cable tied to a rocker cover bracket with actuator pipework and tdc wire all in a cable tidy and from there through the bulkhead.

    I can only guess but i reckon the excess pipework in the bulkhead worked its way back through the grommet causing the pipe to be slack and drop down closer to hot exhaust or something.

    Braided pipework and extinguisher are next on the shopping list

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    Re: 1990 tungsten/first rebuild

    well today started great! Some morning boosting in the 5 round some backroads blowing off the cobwebs... then leaving my parents house to head home, their dozy neighbour ran into the back of me fecking the bumper, boot & bending the rear so the locking mech is mis-alligned fml

    Pissed off would be an understatment! although it wont take much to get right, I wont have the funds for a while so thats her off the road

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    Re: 1990 tungsten/first rebuild

    some pics
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    Re: 1990 tungsten/first rebuild

    Sorry to hear that dude....I feel ur pain

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    Re: 1990 tungsten/first rebuild

    Quote Originally Posted by tubbyG View Post
    their dozy neighbour ran into the back of me

    I wont have the funds for a while
    Am I missing something here?


    Btw, that's really tough, I think I would almost cry.

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    Re: 1990 tungsten/first rebuild

    I feel your pain, every time you think your making process sh1t happens and your two steps back! How the hell they manage to damage it like that?

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    Re: 1990 tungsten/first rebuild

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoolio View Post
    Am I missing something here?


    Btw, that's really tough, I think I would almost cry.
    No not missing anything. They are good friends of my parents so im waiting to see if they offer to pay for repair or we make a claim although with the bent rear end im bricking it....

    and yes, I was close to tears when I heard it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goobie View Post
    I feel your pain, every time you think your making process sh1t happens and your two steps back! How the hell they manage to damage it like that?

    I was reversing off my parents drive. I was half on the drive and half on the pavement, looking down the road to see if I was clear to move onto the road. The woman hurrily reversed out her drive and swung the car round to face down the street, but she came the whole way over the road and in the process belted into me.
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    Re: 1990 tungsten/first rebuild

    Having not driven the 5 for a while, I have been reminiscing by going through the vids on the phone. Need to pull the finger out and get her sorted once im back from holiday

    The best one I had on the old phone after setting up the carb (filmed on private road of course) ...


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