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    Re: R5 GTT 172 Project

    She is running at last, traced the wiring on the original 172 loom and I found the earth to the ECU to have a split in the cable sorted it out and she now idles. Only prob now is that the cam, tensioner has come loose

    my modified fuel rail seems to be doing the job ok

    I will get a vid up but **** she is bloody loud with the powerflow sidey

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    Re: R5 GTT 172 Project

    great, so you don't need this FPR then mate? Saves me stripping it down and posting it off

    Which injectors did you run it on in the end?

    WHen you say cam tensioner what do you mean? The idler pulley? as you dont want the tensioner coming loose!!

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    Re: R5 GTT 172 Project

    woot, now you're full of skills you can run up the motorway and get mine running

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    Re: R5 GTT 172 Project

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashy View Post
    great, so you don't need this FPR then mate? Saves me stripping it down and posting it off

    Which injectors did you run it on in the end?

    WHen you say cam tensioner what do you mean? The idler pulley? as you dont want the tensioner coming loose!!
    No won't need the fpr now cheers though ashy I am running the standard 172 injectors

    Yeah the adjustable pulley has come loose looks like engine out to sort cam timing need to find my mot tools again
    Last edited by James5; 20-04-2009 at 21:38.

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    Re: R5 GTT 172 Project

    engine out ? bet you can jack it up enough with the n/s mount undone so that you can whip the cover off and sort it. glad it's running

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    Re: R5 GTT 172 Project

    I would like to thank everyone whom has given advice and parts especially to Ashy, Scoff, Andrew Cooke
    many thanks

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    Re: R5 GTT 172 Project

    Quote Originally Posted by Scoff View Post
    engine out ? bet you can jack it up enough with the n/s mount undone so that you can whip the cover off and sort it. glad it's running



    Will try that at the weekend

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    Re: R5 GTT 172 Project

    Quote Originally Posted by Scoff View Post
    engine out ? bet you can jack it up enough with the n/s mount undone so that you can whip the cover off and sort it. glad it's running
    Aye, easy enough, I've done mine with the engine in...








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    Re: R5 GTT 172 Project

    I do all mine with the engine in too, but I think james has the oe covers inplace, I don't know how awkward they will be to remove in the tight 5 bay!

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    Re: R5 GTT 172 Project

    Oh, but looks like you runt the covers to Ashy ?

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    Re: R5 GTT 172 Project

    Quote Originally Posted by Scoff View Post
    Oh, but looks like you runt the covers to Ashy ?
    Aye they are a bit fiddly but I don't even remember jacking the engine up to get them off.

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    Re: R5 GTT 172 Project

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashy View Post
    Aye they are a bit fiddly but I don't even remember jacking the engine up to get them off.

    I have got the cover off not much room but came out with some force

    Need to find my cam timing tools now, I know i put them somewhere safe

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    Re: R5 GTT 172 Project

    Quote Originally Posted by James5 View Post
    She is running at last, traced the wiring on the original 172 loom and I found the earth to the ECU to have a split in the cable sorted it out and she now idles. Only prob now is that the cam, tensioner has come loose

    my modified fuel rail seems to be doing the job ok

    I will get a vid up but **** she is bloody loud with the powerflow sidey
    Well done mate! that's great news and a nice bit of detective work too !!! for a moment I thought I was going to beat you to it.. but as you sort yours my ECU fails (it's on it's way to emerald as we speak)

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    Re: R5 GTT 172 Project

    I log onto this site everu night and the first thing i do is check to see if you've got it running!

    Really pleased for you mate top work!

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    Re: R5 GTT 172 Project

    Thank feck for that!

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    Re: R5 GTT 172 Project

    Well done for finding that loose wire bud, I'm dreading my loom when it comes to it..

    Gotta lay the volvo loom in with the clio loom and its gotta look good and be reliable for every day use..

    Great work so far mate, can't wait to see your plans when u turbo it..

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    Re: R5 GTT 172 Project

    Just one question?

    How did you know what mounts to use, that rubber mount that sits just down from the drivers side strut top mount, Is that mount standard in all renault cars ?

    Reason i ask is becasue i bought i rsi engine mount and top mount for my volvo 480 turbo lump to go into my mk2 clio, they havent arrived yet and im taking a gamble on the wing mount that rubber one..
    Some people have told me i need to change it, others say thay are all the same and that the rsi mount will bolt straight on?

    Any body got any ideas as to weather all these wing mounts are the same, they all look the same to me ?

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    Re: R5 GTT 172 Project

    The top mount in my photos was welded in, there is no top mount at all on an R5.

    If you look at the volvo conversions that people have done on 5's they dont bother with the top mount so I wouldn't worry too much about it!

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    Re: R5 GTT 172 Project

    I haven't bothered with a top mount for my 172 conversion either - but then again I've no immediate plans to turbo it

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    Re: R5 GTT 172 Project

    Nice one james really well done

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    Re: R5 GTT 172 Project

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Warren View Post
    I haven't bothered with a top mount for my 172 conversion either - but then again I've no immediate plans to turbo it
    Same here I haven't bothered whilst I am running N/A form but with the future turbo conversion and the extra power i would defo go down the route of getting one welded on.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gttnutter View Post
    Nice one james really well done
    Cheers Rich, just need to sort my timing out now.

    Also cheers to everyone above for the comments I agree it is about bloody time it was running. At one point I was thinking both Andrew Cooke and Andrew Warren where going to overtake me LOL. Not bad considering I only spend a couple of hours a week on the car due to work commitment and a really moany Mrs's + the 3 kids.

    I am quiet impressed with it as it is my 1st engine conversion. Just need to sort the timing out to get it on the road then it will be a case of just tidying it up, not sure if I should leave the bonnet black or get it sprayed Tungy?

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    Re: R5 GTT 172 Project

    Good work James

    Id get the bonnet painted tungy to match myself

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brigsy View Post
    Good work James

    Id get the bonnet painted tungy to match myself
    I didnt know you were tungy coloured brigsy

    will you be coming on the 29th james so we can all have a look under the hood

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gttnutter View Post
    I didnt know you were tungy coloured brigsy

    will you be coming on the 29th james so we can all have a look under the hood

    Rich, I very much doubt I will be there on the 29th but I will see what I can do with my time to try and get things sorted.

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    Re: R5 GTT 172 Project

    Fingers crossed I have now done the cam timing correct just got in from finishing it off not turned it over yet to see if ok.
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    Re: R5 GTT 172 Project

    Hope you didn't bend the valves
    Be a right bummer if you have... Fingers crossed as i don't know how close the valves go to the pistons nor how much the belt was out when the tensioner came loose !

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5teve L View Post
    Hope you didn't bend the valves
    Be a right bummer if you have... Fingers crossed as i don't know how close the valves go to the pistons nor how much the belt was out when the tensioner came loose !
    They go slighlty onto he the top of the pistons. I keep thinking I hope I haven't bent the valves

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    Re: R5 GTT 172 Project

    Did you rent the tools or buy them? I'm considering buying the 3, but might change my mind when I find out the price of them.

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    Re: R5 GTT 172 Project

    I rented the tools from a bloke of the cliosport site Renault wanted around £200 for the kit i just couldnt justify spending that so hired @ a cost of £30 there are a couple of blokes who do this

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    Quote Originally Posted by James5 View Post
    They go slighlty onto he the top of the pistons. I keep thinking I hope I haven't bent the valves
    Wern't it still running thou when you noticed the belt was loose, im sure in a previous post you said you switched it off and noticed that the belt was slack ?
    If it was still running then i reakon you might be ok...

    Have you wound it over today to see if it starts ?

    Remember to do a couple of turns of the crank by hand first to check all is in the correct place..

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    Quote Originally Posted by TURBO'D CLIO View Post
    Wern't it still running thou when you noticed the belt was loose, im sure in a previous post you said you switched it off and noticed that the belt was slack ?
    If it was still running then i reakon you might be ok...

    Have you wound it over today to see if it starts ?

    Remember to do a couple of turns of the crank by hand first to check all is in the correct place..
    Not been out yet to start her up but I done 2 turns on the crank last night and all seemed good belt is now alot tighter will try later need to put the rad back in 1st

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    Quote Originally Posted by James5 View Post
    Not been out yet to start her up but I done 2 turns on the crank last night and all seemed good belt is now alot tighter will try later need to put the rad back in 1st
    Dont worry about small things like rad's lol, just get out there and fire her up it will be ok to run for a few seconds with no water then switch it off, were all waiting on the up date lol ..

    P.S good luck

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    Re: R5 GTT 172 Project

    Well I have checked and checked the timing and all seems good my markings all line up. Did try to start but battery bloody flat

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    Quote Originally Posted by James5 View Post
    Well I have checked and checked the timing and all seems good my markings all line up. Did try to start but battery bloody flat
    ... that's a bugger... Tomoz thou hey, deffo try tomoz suspense is killing me...

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    Re: R5 GTT 172 Project

    come on, you got it to run yet?
    Driven it yet ??

    come on !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5teve L View Post
    come on, you got it to run yet?
    Driven it yet ??

    come on !!

    No not yet started it weather was to bad yesterday, tonight is the night to try and crank it over to get it running and friday will be the day she is fully road legal and I discover more problems when driving it

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    No not yet started it weather was to bad yesterday, tonight is the night to try and crank it over to get it running and friday will be the day she is fully road legal and I discover more problems when driving it
    Yeah on the way down to mine

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    Quote Originally Posted by fidos got a raider View Post
    Yeah on the way down to mine
    FAIL FIDO on the way to mine, YOU stand CORRECTED

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    FAIL FIDO on the way to mine, YOU stand CORRECTED
    What so you can look out your bedroom window as you wont be able to move

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    Quote Originally Posted by fidos got a raider View Post
    What so you can look out your bedroom window as you wont be able to move


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    Just messing man hope all goes well

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    Re: R5 GTT 172 Project

    been home on my lunch break

    Had a quick chat with Fido on the phone,

    Unplugged Car battery from charger now full of juice,

    Placed battery in the R5 and plumbed in,

    Turned the ignition key after turning immobiliser off,

    and yep you guessed it she cranks with either no spark or injectors not firing again (Still got fuel pump on switch at mo) LOL oh well will have another look when I get home from work. Just makes me laugh


    It will be running by the end of the night
    Last edited by James5; 28-04-2009 at 14:47.

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    Bloody want to be

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    Re: R5 GTT 172 Project

    'kin 'el mate, will she ever run

    Hope you sort it soon, don't want ot go to the classifieds & find it there (coz i'll have to buy it then )

    I'll try to pop round later & have a nosey, what times good matey ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5teve L View Post
    'kin 'el mate, will she ever run

    Hope you sort it soon, don't want ot go to the classifieds & find it there (coz i'll have to buy it then )

    I'll try to pop round later & have a nosey, what times good matey ??

    I will be out the front playing with the car from 7 matey so anytime from then onwards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James5 View Post
    I will be out the front playing with the car from 7 matey so anytime from then onwards.

    I bet Lauren wishes you'd have kept the C1J in there now, at least it moved now & again

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    Re: R5 GTT 172 Project

    it's a live it's a live - fecking loud with the sidey


    30amp fuse had blown
    Last edited by James5; 28-04-2009 at 19:17.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James5 View Post
    it's a live it's a live - decking loud with the sidey


    30amp fuse had blown

    yaaaaaaaaay yaaaaaaaaaaay yaaaaaaaaaaaay james bring it to mine friday

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    well done mate

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