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    starting noise????

    really bugging me now! really dont know what it could be.. fitted the dowel so the starter is aligned.. it cranks at a good speed just dont know what the noise is? anyone? please!

    video link of noise..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VRMAY5bfHc

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    Re: starting noise????

    is it turning the engine over? or is that the noise from the starter motor?

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    Re: starting noise????

    the engine is turning over fine.. just got that anoying noise carnt figure out what it is

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    Re: starting noise????

    I changed my starter then got that noise. Put some jump leads on it or a trickle charger over night. My batt was slightly low as the car hadn't been used, meaning the starter wasn't shooting out far enough and therefore grinding on the flywheel. I presume it doesn't make that noise and still start? Your turning the key and just getting that noise?

    I put mine on charge over night, and it cranked mint the following day.

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    Re: starting noise????

    Quote Originally Posted by w35ty View Post
    the engine is turning over fine.. just got that anoying noise carnt figure out what it is
    In that case it could be damage on the starter or fly wheel teeth. Have you checked both?

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    Re: starting noise????

    yeah try what jay said and if all else fails take starter motor off and connect it via some jump leads to see if its a noisy starter motor and then you can check condition off teeth etc....

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    Re: starting noise????

    the starter is a brand new recon.. i had the problem with my old starter so thought id get a new one and its stil doing the same.. and the flywheel was fine when i put it on as it was a L&B one

    my battery is ok even had it with jumpleads from my dads car it cranks over the speed it should i think just liek somethings catching

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    Re: starting noise????

    Did you try tw@ing it matey?

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    Re: starting noise????

    tried everything mate its really got me dont know what it can be! really anoying!

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    Re: starting noise????

    is the bracket still on the back of the starter motor?

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    Re: starting noise????

    could be a weak solenoid spring not giving enough juice too it......A way to test would be a substitute ignition switch + to the starter

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    Re: starting noise????

    I will have a go at doing that.. It seems asif its cranking over enough just that noise is really bad when its turning over

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    Re: starting noise????

    the dowel is in the wrong hole.... I had this exact issue on mine the other week, took he starter off and moved the dowel and it was sweet as a nut

    From memory, but I can't be 100% sure, if you were looking from the front of the engine down onto the starter motor the dowel goes in the top rear bolt hole.

    I suppose the way to do it is remove your starter and swap it into the other hole!

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    Re: starting noise????

    Nice one mate il give that a try and see what that does just so annoying now!

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    Re: starting noise????

    i tried changing the dowel over earlier fitted all back up and it sounded worse

    had the starter off ebay.. its got r9-T on it renault 9 turbo? its smaller starer compared to the big 5 one.. but even with my old starter still got the same noise.

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    Re: starting noise????

    Quote Originally Posted by w35ty View Post
    its got r9-T on it renault 9 turbo? its smaller starer compared to the big 5 one..
    Someone else will hopefully be able to answer this but that isn't one of those supposedly 'uprated' starter motors is it?

    Could be a case of the old one had a genuine problem and the replacement just isn't suitable, only reason I say this is because some members have fitted a different type before that caused problems/chewed flywheels etc.

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    Re: starting noise????

    Dont think its uprated, just said on the ad on ebay that its a recon like its abit smaller than the gtt one i had but not sure why its doing it as my old my old starter done it aswel

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    Re: starting noise????

    Link to the eBay ad?

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    Re: starting noise????

    When you moved the dowel did you move the bolt to that hole also?

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    Re: starting noise????

    Yeah moved the bolt to the same hole.. Bolted on exactly how the haynes says

    And link to starter: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-RENAULT-R-...#ht_5566wt_689

    Getting so anoying now! only get weekends to do it aswel

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    Re: starting noise????

    ok so its pissing me off real bad now.. dont know what it is. iv stripped the box off.. checked flywheel teeth no grinding marks at all. no marks on the starter carnt see anything that would be catching to make the noise.. its really got me

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    Re: starting noise????

    Can ya get a vid up with sound fella? May help someone may have heard it before.

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    Re: starting noise????

    Ignore me il read the full thread nect time

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    Re: starting noise????

    No worries buddy.. Bugging me real bad now to what it could be.. Where can i buy new dowels from?

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    Re: starting noise????

    Quote Originally Posted by w35ty View Post
    No worries buddy.. Bugging me real bad now to what it could be.. Where can i buy new dowels from?
    i got mine from renault a while ago, theres a part number on here somewhere i will see if i can find it

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    Re: starting noise????

    Quote Originally Posted by modfather View Post
    i got mine from renault a while ago, theres a part number on here somewhere i will see if i can find it

    the part no is 77 05 010 087

    when i brought mine i got 2, so i do have a spare 1 here if you want it mate foc
    Last edited by modfather; 22-03-2011 at 10:06.

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    Re: starting noise????

    How much you wan for it mate?

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    Re: starting noise????

    Quote Originally Posted by w35ty View Post
    How much you wan for it mate?

    foc free of charge

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    Re: starting noise????

    oooo haha sound mate nice one il pm you my address

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    Quote Originally Posted by w35ty View Post
    oooo haha sound mate nice one il pm you my address

    ok mate

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    Re: starting noise????

    tbh mate not being funny but it would prob help if u started with getting a brand new one,gsf isnt far from wasall.
    im not much of a fan of getting things on ebay tbh even if it said it was a recon this and that u never know,its pricey i though but least you get it from a shop you can take it back if u had any problems.

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    Re: starting noise????

    if you get stuck mate pop over to me im only local and will have looksy for you

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    Re: starting noise????

    Quote Originally Posted by IANMM View Post
    if you get stuck mate pop over to me im only local and will have looksy for you
    Could any get it over to you mate on trailer.. new dowel should be here today so il try it tonight see how it goes

    Nice one anyways

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    Re: starting noise????

    or i can pop to you mate whatever is easiest

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    Not good westy! llet me know how you get on it with tonight, if not ill try pop over soon

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    Re: starting noise????

    Ok so fitted new dowel tonight and stil the same!!! the noise sounds like from
    The gearbox??? Cuz i realised that when i put it in gear and try starting it with the clutch in the car stil jumps foward...

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    Re: starting noise????

    Quote Originally Posted by w35ty View Post
    Ok so fitted new dowel tonight and stil the same!!! the noise sounds like from
    The gearbox??? Cuz i realised that when i put it in gear and try starting it with the clutch in the car stil jumps foward...
    was the car runing fine at 1 point no noise

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    Re: starting noise????

    Never had it running before.. First time its all cme back together sinve stripping it and putting back togther from scratch like

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    Re: starting noise????

    clutch plate stuck, try starting it in gear with your foot pressed on the clutch like you were doing. it should dissengage. failing that, if your wheels are off the ground. accelerate a little then brake quite harsh. keep trying a little faster and faster, even accelerating then brake while accelerating. all the time with your clutch pressed.

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    Re: starting noise????

    is your flywheel cover plate on ? if so take it off to see if its catching on anything too

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    Re: starting noise????

    sorry just read your last post.....can you see your clutch fork moving when you depress the clutch?

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    Re: starting noise????

    Quote Originally Posted by w35ty View Post
    Never had it running before.. First time its all cme back together sinve stripping it and putting back togther from scratch like

    is there a chance that the clutch has been put on the wrong way round

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    Re: starting noise????

    Took the plate off before to see if it was that stil the same.. The clutch fork is moving but just carnt be engaging enough??

    Also thats the reason i took the box off to see if clutch was on wrong way but wasnt..

    Really dont know what else it could be but definately sound comes from flywheel geadbox area????

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    Re: starting noise????

    is there loads of slack on the clutch cable?

    is the adjuster under the pedal working?

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    Re: starting noise????

    the pedal seems slightly softer than usual i think as they are quite hard anyways.. but the mechanism seems to be working fine..

    iv also noticed when i crank the car the fork like moves side to side slightly is this supose to happen??

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    Re: starting noise????

    Fork moving when cranking may be due to the release bearing being a bit shagged n not rotating smoothly

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    Re: starting noise????

    not sure if this is any help but i bought a new starter from dingbro
    and no matter where i put the dowell it still didnt engage properly

    removed the dowell fitted the starter left the ignition off and jolted
    the starter with a power probe agaain and again in various positions until it was spot on never had any probs since (4 years)

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    Re: starting noise????

    Cheers for the info mate

    Its like the starter is cranking the engine over at a good speed just has that horrible noise when doing it

    Anoying me now to what it is

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    Re: starting noise????

    Did you rule out the clutch plate being the wrong way round?

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    Re: starting noise????

    yes mate thought that would of been the problem i took the box off and put it all back together.. with new dowel stil the gringing noise

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