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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    [quote=m5tt;160956]I know this is most likely diverting the thread slightly but.. I've personally seen more raiders than I have electric blue 5 GT Turbos so if anything they should have been given a limited number !

    it more than just a paint colour that makes a raider.
    Leccy blue was an option you had to pay more for i think much like black and the pearls

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by Adam 005 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by m5tt View Post
    I know this is most likely diverting the thread slightly but.. I've personally seen more raiders than I have electric blue 5 GT Turbos so if anything they should have been given a limited number !
    it more than just a paint colour that makes a raider.
    Leccy blue was an option you had to pay more for i think much like black and the pearls
    Ohh i thought they may have been production colours. I asume that this is the same as the silver 5gtt's ,And this is the reason for there small numbers

    As for the Raiders, I know the history and there reason for being But what I should have said was some thing completely different (so my bad ) , what I was indicating was while reading pistonhead adverts all I ever see is limited number only 1000 made, blah blah but in actual fact I see alot more raiders on there and other places than I do say Leccy blue ones as an example! but i hadnt realised that they werent production colours thus explaining there limited numbers

    so thanks for the indication Sorry to the OP for a serious thread diversion!

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    ALL RADIERS are just normal 5gtt's but with a special colour sceam. end of production tart up to to sell what they have left

    nearly all manurfactures do the tart up for end of line production

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    you mean the raiders aint 1.7 16v like all the ebay adverts?

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    if you want to be hardcore
    buy a megane sport Trophy
    400 made only 160 available in the UK

    real exclusivity that is!!!!

    and i own one, nr 171.

    in fact i own the worse f**kin one.
    when ive finished with it itll be 171A or a burnt out shell.

    thats more exclusive than the raider!, williams 1, clio V6, spider maybe?, R26 R, R26 F1 zzzzz yeah whatever.

    i wouldnt mind a Fuego turbo bet thats much more exclusive now! or a gordini R8...

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by Maka View Post
    if you want to be hardcore
    buy a megane sport Trophy
    400 made only 160 available in the UK

    real exclusivity that is!!!!

    and i own one, nr 171.

    in fact i own the worse f**kin one.
    when ive finished with it itll be 171A or a burnt out shell.

    thats more exclusive than the raider!, williams 1, clio V6, spider maybe?, R26 R, R26 F1 zzzzz yeah whatever.

    i wouldnt mind a Fuego turbo bet thats much more exclusive now! or a gordini R8...
    info from a year ago

    https://www.rtoc.org/boards/showthread.php?t=4638

    renault 9 is rarer than fuego apparently. need to get round to getting another list done.

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by car.crash View Post
    It probably says raider blue followed by the paint code.
    449 is the paint code for raider

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by Gttnutter View Post
    449 is the paint code for raider
    sports blue is what they call i think

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by markey b View Post
    you mean the raiders aint 1.7 16v like all the ebay adverts?


    thats a 1.7 but no turbo infact its not even a gtt

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    GTE all the way and not a Nova in sight...

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    didnt realise this thread would stir it up...............



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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    off topic but there was 5,325,900 renault 5 made.

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    well this is what i found a while back.pretty intresting imo.the web site is pretty good,realey nice pics if u can find them on there group outings

    http://translate.googleusercontent.c...LlUk7FTqwBdGVg

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparkie View Post
    info from a year ago

    https://www.rtoc.org/boards/showthread.php?t=4638

    renault 9 is rarer than fuego apparently. need to get round to getting another list done.

    i have a soft spot for the fuego.
    i rekon it would look rather cool being retro and pumping out some good power!

    wah!!! no wonder i cant find a 21T quadra on the cheap for a winter knock about!!!

    there isnt that many left.

    sad day

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by old skool turbo power View Post
    well this is what i found a while back.pretty intresting imo.the web site is pretty good,realey nice pics if u can find them on there group outings

    http://translate.googleusercontent.c...LlUk7FTqwBdGVg
    So the model is a Limited Edition, just not numbered.

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    Yes but if Renault didn't specify a number not to be exceeded, then it's not really limited in any way over and above any other GTT.

    Like for example, the electric blue Phase 2 was only available from 1988 to 1989. As far as anyone knows, there was no Elec Blue car built in 1990 (though there may be some registered on a G plate). I'd hazard a guess that the manufacturing window was actually shorter than for the Raider.

    I'd describe Raiders maybe as a 'Special Edition', marketed slightly differently in different European countries (Allain Orielle vs Raider etc). Of course even then their equipment wasn't unique (barring the window sticker in the UK) as can be seen when looking at the Euro-only GTE.

    Special Edition, maybe a bit like the Monaco or Baccara, rather than Limited Edition. Unless, we can dig up some evidence of a limited number...

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    knowing renault, they made them until the paint ran out....

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    It seems that renault cannot get the numbering thing sorted even these days, over on Cliotrophy we now have a fairly comprehensive list of the majority of the limited number of "500(?)" this has thrown up several with the same number and also the fact that Renault has no record of which number went with each car.

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    The whole limited things abit of a scam, Williams 1 was limited so buyers must have been pi55ed at the arrival of the Williams 2 and 3.

    A women mummy knows bought a limited run porker or a special only for them to do another pretty much the same, so the oh so rare one wasn't gonna be as rare as they made out.

    It's all a clever blag

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    [quote=dangerous dave;161278]The whole limited things abit of a scam, Williams 1 was limited so buyers must have been pi55ed at the arrival of the Williams 2 and 3.

    williams 2 and 3 were not numberd

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    [quote=Adam 005;161288]
    Quote Originally Posted by dangerous dave View Post
    The whole limited things abit of a scam, Williams 1 was limited so buyers must have been pi55ed at the arrival of the Williams 2 and 3.

    williams 2 and 3 were not numberd
    thats right and thats the point, in my eyes it takes away from the limited ones.. after the 1st run sold out they must have thought they missed the boat and shoulda made the limit higher.. oh wait, if we stick a 2 at the end no one will ever notice we're blagging the last buyers.. later sticking on a 3 to really kill off exclusivity..

    they could have been more exclusive and have more value without the 2 and 3 knocking about..

    are there any myths about the 1/2 or 3 having more bhp over the others, or having parts made of gold, perhaps each car was tested on track by god himself before finishing the pdi check.. im sure there are some people out there that bullsh1t up there williams over the next..

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparkie View Post
    knowing renault, they made them until the paint ran out....


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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    my raider must be number one, as it is the most rusty, and also had a post-it note inside saying 'this is the first one'

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