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    and the raider number is ?????

    strange question this one, but i have been reading a profile of a fellow member and also a fellow raider owner and he states his raider is number xx of a 1000 made, how do you find what number raider it is?
    sorry if the question is a bit cuckoo but im eager to know
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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    i didnt think they were numbered but if they are id like to know.

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    They were never numbered.

    Has anyone ever had the figure of 1000 verified from anywhere reliable? As far as I'm aware, it's just one of the many myths that surround the Raiders.

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    dose that mean thet raiders dont have 180bhp standard then

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    I know the clio V6's are numberd, didnt think renault were that orginised back in the day

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    172 exclusives make me laugh, 172 made in green and given a number out of 172 but only something like 30 made in monaco, which one would you think was exclusive

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by JRP View Post
    I know the clio V6's are numberd, didnt think renault were that orginised back in the day


    Williams clio were numberd.mine is number 215
    Wiliams clio 2 and 3 were not numberd

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by TNT Tricky Nicky View Post
    172 exclusives make me laugh, 172 made in green and given a number out of 172 but only something like 30 made in monaco, which one would you think was exclusive
    There were only 31 sunflower yellow ph1 172s which is by far the rariest, were quite a few oddessey blue ones

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    there are only 8. le car 2 turbos registered with the DVLA..... and i own one of them , as does penfold, phildini and robbo off r5gordini... a VERY select group .

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by HULK View Post
    There were only 31 sunflower yellow ph1 172s which is by far the rariest, were quite a few oddessey blue ones
    and even less acid yellow ones maybe

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparkie View Post
    there are only 8. le car 2 turbos registered with the DVLA..... and i own one of them , as does penfold, phildini and robbo off r5gordini... a VERY select group .
    I think my mate's mum had one, probably from new, it was certainly a le car.

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    mines number 666



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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by J$£5GTT View Post
    mines number 666


    Oi that was mine this weekend, made me £190 in 3 card poker when I got 3 6s

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by The new Bill J View Post
    They were never numbered.

    Has anyone ever had the figure of 1000 verified from anywhere reliable? As far as I'm aware, it's just one of the many myths that surround the Raiders.
    thats wrong go to renault tec and ask them im the 2nd owner from new and i have a paper saying 53 off 1000 made mate the other thing is there are defnutly 500 on a g reg and other 500 on a h plate all were numbered 1 to 500 on each year of raider gtt i should no as i have number 53 of 500 on a g reg you should beable to fine out though renault main dealers with a chassis number as well im told by renault some years ago
    Last edited by raider_gtt; 20-06-2010 at 22:39.

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by raider_gtt View Post
    thats wrong go to renault tec and ask them im the 2nd owner from new and i have a paper saying 53 off 1000 made mate
    Out of pure interest and curiosity I would love to see the paper any chance of a pic being posted on this thread of it?

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by James5 View Post
    Out of pure interest and curiosity I would love to see the paper any chance of a pic being posted on this thread of it?

    no im not i no what im talking about up to you lot if you want to beleave me i no this is true and i have every paper inc the pre-delivery inspection report vary vary vary vary rare info theses days as you no! i have own my raider for 10 years + now and im the 2nd owner to this car !!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by raider_gtt View Post
    no im not i no what im talking about up to you lot if you want to beleave me i no this is true and i have every paper inc the pre-delivery inspection report vary vary vary vary rare info theses days as you no! i have own my raider for 10 years + now and im the 2nd owner to this car !!!!!!!!!!!!
    Steady on dude.

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    cars are only put on a plate as they are sold. so how can there be exactly 500 sold each year? im sure i heard of a raider being on a J plate so that ruins your description of 500 G and 500 H ??
    show us the paper please, would be nice to see some history

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    Quote Originally Posted by James5 View Post
    Out of pure interest and curiosity I would love to see the paper any chance of a pic being posted on this thread of it?


    anyways YOU SOULD NO THIS BEING A South East Regional Rep so it says on here

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by raider_gtt View Post
    defnutly 500 on a g reg and other 500 on a h plate all were numbered 1 to 500
    That's what i use to think to. How do you account for the J plate Raiders then ?

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by car.crash View Post
    cars are only put on a plate as they are sold. so how can there be exactly 500 sold each year?
    show us the paper please, would be nice to see some history
    renult numbered these from start to finsh other wise HOW DO YOU THINK THEY KONW THERE IS 1000 MADE MMMMMMMMMMMMMM
    well thats how they done it my car come from a canterbury kent main dealer which told me what this white piece of paper was with a dark blue 53 on it was its a4 size it dont have anything other than this on it as they sold my car to the 1st owner other than me mate

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by GanJaMan View Post
    That's what i use to think to. How do you account for the J plate Raiders then ?

    they ARE NOT RAIDERS THEN END OFF UNLESS they were bought as shell and them taken to dvla to be put on the road after that time



    may i add tho i have never seen a j reg raider ph 2 j reg yes but they would be nomal one NOT RAIDERS

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    Quote Originally Posted by raider_gtt View Post
    renult numbered these from start to finsh other wise HOW DO YOU THINK THEY KONW THERE IS 1000 MADE MMMMMMMMMMMMMM
    well thats how they done it my car come from a canterbury kent main dealer which told me what this white piece of paper was with a dark blue 53 on it was its a4 size it dont have anything other than this on it as they sold my car to the 1st owner other than me mate
    oh i see, now its all made clear


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    Quote Originally Posted by raider_gtt View Post
    they ARE NOT RAIDERS THEN END OFF UNLESS they were bought as shell and them taken to dvla to be put on the road after that time



    may i add tho i have never seen a j reg raider ph 2 j reg yes but they would be nomal one NOT RAIDERS
    i believe they are stated as raiders in the V5, they are real, its a fact and someone can prove this if they choose to do so..

    this is the renault turbo owners club, here for 15 years or so and no one has ever come up with proof of a limited run of raiders.. i've been here 5 years and im still waiting

    they were a special, not a limited...

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by dangerous Dave View Post
    i Believe They Are Stated As Raiders In The V5, They Are Real, Its A Fact And Someone Can Prove This If They Choose To Do So..

    This Is The Renault Turbo Owners Club, Here For 15 Years Or So And No One Has Ever Come Up With Proof Of A Limited Run Of Raiders.. I've Been Here 5 Years And Im Still Waiting

    They Were A Special, Not A Limited...
    As I Said I Have Had My Car 10 Years + Now They Are Limited Thats Y There Are Less Then 300 Left On And Off The Road Now I Have This Info Dont Care If You Lot Beleave Me Or Not Other Than That Get On With It

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    Why don't you show us that piece of paper that you have

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    i used to have a raider too but forgot to forward the papers on.


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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    Lmfao!!

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by raider_gtt View Post
    As I Said I Have Had My Car 10 Years + Now They Are Limited Thats Y There Are Less Then 300 Left On And Off The Road Now I Have This Info Dont Care If You Lot Beleave Me Or Not Other Than That Get On With It
    Oh dear god! I've been a member sice 97, met some complete renault nuts (eat,**** and breath etc), both my brothers have Raiders (probabbly one of the most common 5gt's left) and no one has ever mentioned a raider numbering system, (NOT EVEN RENAULT DEALERS!)

    I would advise putting us all right with proof of your documentation, for the clubs sake if anything.

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    Another thread to add to the rtoc gold archive

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    ive got a raider and i believe him, mine is number 501

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by GanJaMan View Post


    Why don't you show us that piece of paper that you have
    just done a reg check and this comes back as a raider

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    Question is who owns a 1.7 twin turbo raider???

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    I'm sure I may have seen a f plate raider. I wanna see this bit of paper. My mate owns a raider and would love to no what number his is if there is such numbering system. If I had a bit of paper with the actual no on it I'd post it straight away.

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by James5 View Post
    Out of pure interest and curiosity I would love to see the paper any chance of a pic being posted on this thread of it?
    Quote Originally Posted by raider_gtt View Post
    no im not i no what im talking about up to you lot if you want to beleave me i no this is true and i have every paper inc the pre-delivery inspection report vary vary vary vary rare info theses days as you no! i have own my raider for 10 years + now and im the 2nd owner to this car !!!!!!!!!!!!
    No you're not, what? He hasn't said that you ARE anything?!

    How many times have I asked you to stop jumping to conclusions and thinking everyone is having a go? They simply asked to see what this numbered bit of paper looks like. So could you please post a picture of it as nobody has ever seen one before?

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by raider_gtt View Post
    anyways YOU SOULD NO THIS BEING A South East Regional Rep so it says on here

    Mate no offence was meant it's a genuine curiosity just because I have south east area rep under my username does not mean I know everything but enough to help. If you have the paper what's the harm in sharing so we can all see it's actually what renault did as I have known a few peeps who have owned raiders but had no details of the numbers.

    I have also owned various 5 gtt's for over 10 + years and worked on many others in these years no one has ever mentioned there raider being numbered. If you can't show the information why comment on this thread saying you have the alleged info but can't show it.

    Not to sure why your getting so irrate when I asked nicely makes me think something doesn't ring true.
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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    Surely if they were numbered they would carry a plate or something ? Rare and exclusive models normally do ......K002807

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    Ok so thers a J plate raider which turns out true, but regards being numbered maybe the 1st owner was fooled with a bit of paper with blue on it.

    Maybe the sales guy needed to sell your one to get his end of month bonus

    I cant picture it to be honest

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    Quote Originally Posted by car.crash View Post
    i used to have a raider too but forgot to forward the papers on.

    Sell it on ebay marc. must be worth a good few quid

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    Also as clee sais, i would have thought there would be a plaque like the williams

    Are the liquid yellow clios plaqued ?

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    I can imagine there could conceivably have been 1000 made and could possibly have been numbered, even if it were nothing more than some manufacturing designation that wasn't intended for any sort of exclusivity or part of a pack to owners. If somehow this unlikely situation is true, it certainly remains unproven thus far. Everything else supposed here is complete pish though, especially the 500 G plates and 500 H plates

    Given the popularity of Williams numbering and how well publicised/understood that is, the idea that we've not heard about an official Raider numbering run/certificate/whatever until now is one that stretches the boundaries of probability a bit too far.

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    I had a Clio trophy 312/500 plaque on the runner of the drivers seat and a megane r26 which was no 724 but didn't say of how many by the hand brake, think there were a couple of thousand of r26s not quite as exclusive as the trophy. I think it's only the f1 clios that are numbered not just liquid yellow ones. SHOW US THE PAPER.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raider_gtt View Post
    the other thing is there are defnutly 500 on a g reg and other 500 on a h plate all were numbered 1 to 500 on each year.....
    It gets better

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    Thats a bit odd, the J plate one got registered on the 09/02/1990 but raider_gtt one got registered on 20/04/1990

    Anyone know if the Vin numbers are in order of manufacture or how they are worked out? Once again the J plate has a lot lower number than raider_gtt one

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    interested in exclusive old numbered renaults? buy a williams

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    More RTOC gold

    My understanding is that the Raider was introduced on G-plate and thus sold in the majority on that reg' mark, with several surplus models appearing on H and even J plate.

    The 500 on G & 500 on H comment is vary vary vary vary (sic) incorrect.

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    I know this is most likely diverting the thread slightly but.. I've personally seen more raiders than I have electric blue 5 GT Turbos so if anything they should have been given a limited number !

    If and a big if at that, That Renault did infact produce documentation that indicated that the raider was a limited run with a unique indiviual number then I more than confident they would have provided the buyer or the dealership with more that just a number on a paper

    I really don't wish to belittle you but that "number" you have could just be for example 'car number = "what ever" ' on there forcourt

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    Re: and the raider number is ?????

    It probably says raider blue followed by the paint code.

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