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    impressive

    http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1638414.htm

    Anyone else find that impressive from a 1.6 8v???

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    Re: impressive

    it is very impressive and richard longman has built some nice stuff, but the honda b16 engine isnt that far behind in bhp in standard form

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    Re: impressive

    yeah but alot can be done to them engines

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    Re: impressive

    Quote Originally Posted by fcdgary View Post
    yeah but alot can be done to them engines
    b16 or the 8v?

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    Re: impressive

    b16 what ones that???

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    Re: impressive

    yeah i just mean for a 20yr old naturally aspirated 8v thats good going.

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    Re: impressive

    make you right mate 1.9 gti easy goes 190 bhp for 2k or so aswell

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    Re: impressive

    Not really. Has anyone noticed the price?... Not to mention £10k for a piece of **** 205 engine

    Sorry, but you could put together a good 500bhp engine in alot of cars for far less than that, what a joker.

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    Re: impressive

    i wouldnt pay that i agree you can get an evo 6 with 300bhp or old m5 or two fat fives!!

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    Re: impressive

    A 10 second civic is cheaper

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    Re: impressive

    Quote Originally Posted by Rob@Backyardracing View Post
    A 10 second civic is cheaper
    Quality and a 10 second five.............................................. ...........





























    maybe with a b16

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    Re: impressive

    we talking 1.8 or 2.0?? i prefer old civic esp type r and integra

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    Re: impressive

    Quote Originally Posted by fcdgary View Post
    we talking 1.8 or 2.0?? i prefer old civic esp type r and integra
    naa 1.6

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    Re: impressive

    or a mustang with 400-500bhp wud do 11secs i reckon

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    Re: impressive

    what 1.6 engine come out of? surely 1.8 180bhp or so integra engine beter??

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    Re: impressive

    Quote Originally Posted by fcdgary View Post
    we talking 1.8 or 2.0?? i prefer old civic esp type r and integra
    1590cc ONE cam.....

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    Re: impressive

    from crx?

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    Re: impressive

    Quote Originally Posted by fcdgary View Post
    what 1.6 engine come out of? surely 1.8 180bhp or so integra engine beter??
    They are good the b18 gsr, but cost more... cheap builds FTW... dirty D`S for me, untill i go one better than rs250nut

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    Re: impressive

    Quote Originally Posted by fcdgary View Post
    from crx?
    The old crx is b16... twin cam...

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    Re: impressive

    you two in a little race battle aye??

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    Re: impressive

    1.6 one cam is it from old toyota drift fav . if not what cars had that engine

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    Re: impressive

    Quote Originally Posted by fcdgary View Post
    you two in a little race battle aye??
    Nar, two different cars we have, but an R5 with a B16 (rs250nut) will for sure give the fastests 5`s on this club a hard time..

    The 1.6 i was ref too was the d16, this is found in the EG esi, Del sol, EP3 type S (different cam spec etc).. all D16s tho...

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    Re: impressive

    i can see its alot power for a 1.6 8v pug engine but look how much it costs to get that that power

    my 205 gti6 isnt far from that power and that cost me 230 pound and thats standard

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    Re: impressive

    Quote Originally Posted by Rob@Backyardracing View Post
    Nar, two different cars we have, but an R5 with a B16 (rs250nut) will for sure give the fastests 5`s on this club a hard time..

    The 1.6 i was ref too was the d16, this is found in the EG esi, Del sol, EP3 type S (different cam spec etc).. all D16s tho...
    gotta love the b16, legendary engine

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    Re: impressive

    ok so d16 you saying is not as high reving as rs250 b16 engine??

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    Re: impressive

    230 quid??

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    Re: impressive

    Quote Originally Posted by fcdgary View Post
    230 quid??
    yes but its a 2 litre 16v from a 306 gti6, 167bhp standard

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    Re: impressive

    good engine been in a 306 gti6 wasnt amazing but good power delivery 306 to heavy tho

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    Re: impressive

    Quote Originally Posted by fcdgary View Post
    ok so d16 you saying is not as high reving as rs250 b16 engine??
    Correct, you dont really want to rev a d much over 9k, the B (my next lump this winter) will rev to 10.5-11krpm no more...

    £230 should get you full running gear for a D.. i paid £255 or summet for my white EG esi of ebay.. just needed a Rad...

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    Re: impressive

    i agree, its a ridiculous amount of money to be thrown at an engine.

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    Re: impressive

    Quote Originally Posted by fcdgary View Post
    good engine been in a 306 gti6 wasnt amazing but good power delivery 306 to heavy tho
    but mines is a stripped 205 hehe, you could supercharge it and have over 300bhp for less than that longmans engine

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    Re: impressive

    on 1/4 mile higher revs ok but on track you need low down power , are we talking of turbod d and b 16 engines? or naturaly aspirated?

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    Re: impressive

    whats kerb weight of a 205 compared to a five?

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    Re: impressive

    Quote Originally Posted by fcdgary View Post
    whats kerb weight of a 205 compared to a five?
    if you go by the books the 205 weighs around 50kg more

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    Re: impressive

    Quote Originally Posted by fcdgary View Post
    on 1/4 mile higher revs ok but on track you need low down power , are we talking of turbod d and b 16 engines? or naturaly aspirated?
    Turbo... its me and my one trapped mind on 1/4s... ill head back over to hondatech....

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    Re: impressive

    when i had my five running 160 bhp with a heell alot of other mods i done rtoc track day and went past a couple 205s stripped and 306 gtis , a 205 with gti6 engine must be fast do you use the 6 speed box or a 5 speed

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    Re: impressive

    thing with the pug boys they love to stay loyal to the old 8v, theres some chap on the drivers forum who spent a fortune on a 1.9 8v engine and made over 200bhp but that went wrong with oil issues, more money than sense

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    Re: impressive

    Quote Originally Posted by fcdgary View Post
    when i had my five running 160 bhp with a heell alot of other mods i done rtoc track day and went past a couple 205s stripped and 306 gtis , a 205 with gti6 engine must be fast do you use the 6 speed box or a 5 speed
    you must be a tool then lol i use the short ratio 1.6 box from a 205 gti, 5 gears

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    Re: impressive

    205 1.9 or ren 5 turbo two cult cars. i know we are on a rt website but whats better??
    standard performance times are same but on track i think 205 mite have the edge , modified tho i think the 5 has it hands down

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    Re: impressive

    i have no fear had many fast cars and four superbikes never knew how fast my five was on track or how well it handled at high speed

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    Re: impressive

    its been debated on here before, from my experience i would take the 205 everytime, its not as quick as the gtt but i felt i can trust it, not driven my 205 gti6 tho cause we still building it, so i am comparing a standard 1.9 gti to my old gtt running a bar, standard on standard the gtt is a tad quicker

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    Re: impressive

    five lighter but both have same suspension set up??

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    Re: impressive

    not the same suspension, but both have rear torsion set up

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    Re: impressive

    front not same?

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    Re: impressive

    Quote Originally Posted by fcdgary View Post
    front not same?
    not the same, but both macpherson type suspension

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    Re: impressive

    know more than me then

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    Re: impressive

    Quote Originally Posted by fcdgary View Post
    know more than me then
    i dont know much mate, it helps quite a few of my mates like the pugs

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    Re: impressive

    i would love to have a mint 205 1.9gti but a five has turbo and that wins for me what you think, pug can have throtle bodies etc but unles engine transplant cnt see ever beating a tuned five

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    Re: impressive

    if i could go back 8 years and knowing what i know now i would choose the 205, i just think its an allround better car

    i also think a car is as fast as someones wallet

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    Re: impressive

    exactly right my mate had a skyline r33 gts with 600bhp spent 30k had solid welded boost pipes cost 2k a turbo size of my flat, great in straight line but put round a bend put your foot down and all that power is useless, i think since i was 17 i spent 150k on cars and bikes , go back 8 years i wuda saved and got audi rs4 and tuned to hell. or r34 gtr

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