Re: Volvo Engine - What BHP from stock??

**dave r5** · 19-11-2010, 10:41

The 200 sx turbo works well
I have a pulsar turbo waiting to go on if needed. But has a bigger exhaust housing.

Going external wastegate soon as I don't like the spike.
Actual held boost it 16.5 - 17.5 psi

Steve wouldnt map it over 18 as he don't like cast pistons. He wasn't impressed with the spike as it was.

As for gear boxes the were both Volvo units m59.
For mallory I put in a m60 box which was bye far the best

**HAndy** · 19-11-2010, 14:14

Originally Posted by dave r5

The 200 sx turbo works well
I have a pulsar turbo waiting to go on if needed. But has a bigger exhaust housing.

Going external wastegate soon as I don't like the spike.
Actual held boost it 16.5 - 17.5 psi

Steve wouldnt map it over 18 as he don't like cast pistons. He wasn't impressed with the spike as it was.

As for gear boxes the were both Volvo units m59.
For mallory I put in a m60 box which was bye far the best

is the m60 a volvo version of the renault jc5 box?

**dave r5** · 19-11-2010, 18:48

I'm unsure of that mate.
It was an eBay special £5

Deal of the centuary lol

**SCHWARTZ** · 19-11-2010, 19:03

dave was you using one of these t25/28s 200sx turbos to make the 230 bhp or the full t28?

**TrixNFlix** · 19-11-2010, 19:15

Originally Posted by SCHWARTZ

dave was you using one of these t25/28s 200sx turbos to make the 230 bhp or the full t28?

He was using the the turbo i have which i told you about Gary. The 200sx s13 is some sort of t25

**BluntyR5GTT** · 19-11-2010, 19:16

am pretty sure the turbo your referring to is a t25 with .64 ex housing. i have one of them here

**SCHWARTZ** · 19-11-2010, 19:29

Have seen them on the bay but didnt know if it was one of those t25/28 or a full t28 think when funds allow i will go for a 200sx full t28 and take it from there. cant go wrong for £200

**dave r5** · 19-11-2010, 19:51

Im pretty sure it's a full t 28 will look tomorrow tho

**TrixNFlix** · 19-11-2010, 19:56

Originally Posted by dave r5

Im pretty sure it's a full t 28 will look tomorrow tho

It sure is Dave, had a good look at it at mallory, same as mine.

**SCHWARTZ** · 19-11-2010, 19:58

Im thinking of something like one of these two but i have no idea what to read from the a/r sizes wheels trim etc...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GT28-T28-TURBO...#ht_3712wt_905
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Drift-T28-GT28...#ht_2983wt_905

**Rob@Backyardracing** · 19-11-2010, 22:10

http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...o_tech102.html

**dave r5** · 20-11-2010, 08:29

Top link rob
I will measure my turbo later

**Scoff** · 20-11-2010, 10:19

Originally Posted by HAndy

is the m60 a volvo version of the renault jc5 box?

jb3 re-branded

**HAndy** · 20-11-2010, 12:40

Originally Posted by Scoff

jb3 re-branded

cheers scoff , just out of interest how long did your jc5 last and was 370bhp its absolute limit, (dont know what ft lb your old engine made) and what let go

**SCHWARTZ** · 20-11-2010, 13:29

Originally Posted by Rob@Backyardracing

http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...o_tech102.html

yeah good like matey does make me feel stupid tho

**tiff_lee** · 20-11-2010, 13:42

Originally Posted by SCHWARTZ

Im thinking of something like one of these two but i have no idea what to read from the a/r sizes wheels trim etc...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GT28-T28-TURBO...#ht_3712wt_905
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Drift-T28-GT28...#ht_2983wt_905

Are those ebay turbos actually any good quality wise?

**SCHWARTZ** · 20-11-2010, 14:14

was told the bearings were no good by markey mark and should get them changed first so i guess may be easier to just get a decent one in the first place.

**tiff_lee** · 20-11-2010, 15:01

How much more are you looking at for a non ebay one?

**mike r5 gtt** · 20-11-2010, 15:10

Originally Posted by Rob@Backyardracing

http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...o_tech102.html

thats a really good site iv just read the page

altho my brain cant handle page 103

**Logg** · 20-11-2010, 15:13

The ebay turbo is basically a hong kong phooey version of this turbo

http://www.atpturbo.com/mm5/merchant...egory_Code=GRT

But the ebay one has a Journal Bearing rather than a ball bearing core.

**tiff_lee** · 20-11-2010, 16:38

Just went on the turbo dynamics site and its about £800 odd for genuine garret GT2871/60R, ouch

**Scoff** · 20-11-2010, 16:47

Originally Posted by HAndy

cheers scoff , just out of interest how long did your jc5 last and was 370bhp its absolute limit, (dont know what ft lb your old engine made) and what let go

honestly I don't know what failed in mine, it just failed with a spectacular noise and that was that. It had about 300lb/ft at that time. Glenn with his C1J is the guy that can really break gearboxes. He's tore the teeth off 1st gear on 2 seperate occasions, broken selector forks and pushed lumps of ring gear out of the casing. 1st gear is what I'd be worried about if I was you. I hate to say it because it's the coolest bit of an RWD conversion, but you'll want to avoid hard launches !

**Rob@Backyardracing** · 20-11-2010, 17:06

Does he pre load before launching out of interested scoff?

**Scoff** · 20-11-2010, 17:28

Originally Posted by Rob@Backyardracing

Does he pre load before launching out of interested scoff?

No, I suppose it might help, not sure how you'd go about doing it without line lock

**HAndy** · 20-11-2010, 21:05

Originally Posted by Scoff

honestly I don't know what failed in mine, it just failed with a spectacular noise and that was that. It had about 300lb/ft at that time. Glenn with his C1J is the guy that can really break gearboxes. He's tore the teeth off 1st gear on 2 seperate occasions, broken selector forks and pushed lumps of ring gear out of the casing. 1st gear is what I'd be worried about if I was you. I hate to say it because it's the coolest bit of an RWD conversion, but you'll want to avoid hard launches !

thanks for the info scoff

i will bear that in mind

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