he people.
what turbo would you say gove the best power on a 5... price doesnt matter. has to be resonable tho..
i was thinking vnt but i read somewhere that there ****e fr top end power with petrol engines
some shed the light please. im lookin for massive power road legal track car
t28
Massive power? Like what, some say 180bhp is massive, where as some with say 250bhp is massive....
Also what about the engine? Whats been done to that.... no point in having a massive blower with huge amounts of boost if you haven't got the engine sorted, then you need to sort the fueling, cooling out...
Track cars dont need huge amounts of power to be fast
great reply above i agree with everything thats been said please just dont go sticking a big turbo on there and whacking the boost up to silly levels without sorting all the basics 1st
i think 250 massive.....
i know about the basics..and im going most of them soon.. steel liners. forged con rods and pistons, re jetted carb,baffled sump, fmic.green cotton filter. any ive missed ? ? i know most of the basic so dnt think im gunna do a novice n bolt of a turbo n let it go bang... hehe. im not that bad
also id change the plugs,leads timing chain and tensioner and alternator belt, what intercooler are you going to be using ?
I think i know of 1 person that ran 250bhp but NEVER used that on track, you don't need to. I had 176bhp and that was plenty quick enough at Rockingham, Nurburgring etc. Good enough to hussle Megane 225s out the way
T28
Forge FMIC
carb adjusted to 18psi
OE bottom end and head
Originally Posted by dizzeeR5
yep! you missed the most important of all!!
The cam
ive got to 208ish on a completley stock botom end and cam before we got float chamber empty with a full t28
The R5's biggest advantage is the power to weight
yeah to be fair 180-190bhp stripped 5 on the track will play easily with the big money spenders
i forgot to put the cam on the list, i was thnking off the top of my head...
"yeah to be fair 180-190bhp stripped 5 on the track will play easily with the big money spenders"
thats exactly what i want..
i was thinking of using the huge front mounts off ebay.. look good enough.
if that the case il look to get 180-200 horses.
it sounds like i was jumping the gun a tad, just excited thats all. hehe
Is your 5 running around on the road at the moment? I have not seen it about....
You say price doesn't matter and in the next breath say it has to be reasonable,so how far are you willing to go?
Full bottom end rebuild, pistons, liners, balanced lightweight parts to start.
Its sorn at the moment rob... the rust bug has got her, has been for a few years. just getting my arse into gear finaly..
i dont mind what its cost but obviously it cant be silly money. but all options though about tho...
Is that really needed? With a correctly fuelled carb an uprated cam and say a T25 at 16psi, a standard engine will not be too streached or an I wrong?
Same as mine and it has been for a few years. Im hoping to get it back out very soon though.
If you have good compression on 4 cylinders, it's not smoking and it's been looked after? I bought a 2nd hand C1J that was known to be good, dropped it in, had the carb adjusted,hey presto 176bhp, 174ft/lbs
Depends how you want to go about it, just drop a lump in, or are happy to rebuild your own so you know it's all new
same here. gunna strip her down. repair the rust. the spray her white (yummy), then put her back togeather. hopefully done buy the end of this year.
gunna try my hand at a carbon fibre dash aswell....
Very good answer. I had mine fully rebuilt just for peace of mind. As I could not do it myself it cost a fortune though! All that just to sit off the road with only about 2k miles of use!
i need to rebuld mine... 110k on the clock no reciepts forany rebuild i can see... been looked after tho.. juts ive had it for 4 years just sitting there. feel bad for her really
Big laggy turbos are only really suited for dragracing such as a T28
The best turbos for a track car would be a t2/t25 or a full t25
Your origional question,
what's the best turbo for big power on a 5?
My answer,
on my 5, either a roller bearing t4 so I can use my antilag and launch control
or a gt30 but no a/l, l/c.
Lol
whats your anti lag system stu ?
my answer was a bit tongue in cheek
my 5s not got a c1j m8
oh ok mate. lol mebeing dence then. as normal
not being dense unless you know whats in my 5, as youre fairly new then i doubt you would.
just me having a quite moment. lol
Cosworth powered 5, wouldnt mind having that kind of power on tap.
Show off
Just because you have a Y.B
Dizzee, Rob i dont know if you are free on Friday, but why not come down to brands & meet some of us and see the 5's on track...
Oh btw i would look at this engine...
Built for track in mind & cheap, alot of good parts on the engine..
http://sites.samfish.co.uk/r5bits/mechanical/engine
drop in a volvo
good power and good torque for little £££
110k is just run in
Mine's done 150k - at least 20k have been on track, and hard (when Mart drove it anyway
Totally agree mate110k is just run in
Mine's done 150k - at least 20k have been on track, and hard (when Mart drove it anyway
If it aint broke don't fix it
Exactly, i'm sure Colinski said an untouched OE C1J is spot on
And for sure, for only ~200hp, forged pistons & rods and steel liners certainly aren't required.
180 square even on a low comp OE shagged C1J squire
And for sure, for only ~200hp, forged pistons & rods and steel liners certainly aren't required.
Exactly Mundo mate.
Ol' Trusty was running around the same power, ish, and that was a hoot to drive on track.
Likewise i do miss the C1J track attackExactly Mundo mate.
Ol' Trusty was running around the same power, ish, and that was a hoot to drive on track.
Boost was increased to 21psiI think i know of 1 person that ran 250bhp but NEVER used that on track, you don't need to. I had 176bhp and that was plenty quick enough at Rockingham, Nurburgring etc. Good enough to hussle Megane 225s out the way
T28
Forge FMIC
carb adjusted to 18psi
OE bottom end and head
At 20psi+ you will muller most cars on the move, I loved my car on the motorway
i was thinking of running 20psi+ would i need new liners ect.. well excited now. can come to meets aswell.
If your liners are in good condition then no you won't need any, best leaving them in
First thing to help assess the engines health is a compression test, as long as the readings are within 10% of each other, its a good start.
New plugs, leads, dizzy cap and rotor arm. Plugs wise, the standard plugs or Ngk b8 evx's...or even the Campus plugs
Flush and refill the cooling system, make sure it's doing it's job...is the thermostat ok and is the fan cutting in as it should? Is it cooling properly and generally good all round ie not losing water and pressuring etc
New engine oil, pretty much anything other than just a mineral oil...
Find a turbo that'll suit your needs...
Ask someone to help tune the carb for boost...20psi requires a bit of fine tuning as some jetting works well on some engines and not so on others.
I've only been a GTT owner for a few months, that's what I've learned and it works well
Maybe upgrade the intercooling...carb freeze will **** you right off...
Some sound advice thereFirst thing to help assess the engines health is a compression test, as long as the readings are within 10% of each other, its a good start.
New plugs, leads, dizzy cap and rotor arm. Plugs wise, the standard plugs or Ngk b8 evx's...or even the Campus plugs
Flush and refill the cooling system, make sure it's doing it's job...is the thermostat ok and is the fan cutting in as it should? Is it cooling properly and generally good all round ie not losing water and pressuring etc
New engine oil, pretty much anything other than just a mineral oil...
Find a turbo that'll suit your needs...
Ask someone to help tune the carb for boost...20psi requires a bit of fine tuning as some jetting works well on some engines and not so on others.
I've only been a GTT owner for a few months, that's what I've learned and it works well
Maybe upgrade the intercooling...carb freeze will **** you right off
Oh don't we know about carb freeze Spooky!
well you did say the campus would be cool mark ! but reaching sub zero was way to much !Some sound advice there
Oh don't we know about carb freeze Spooky!
im going to replace most things anyway for peace of mind .
im getting anew intercool of the company, cant remember there name. its a custom jobby tho....
going to drop the engine next week and start prepping the body ready for nice white
I need a Campus turbo in my life...with the worlds biggest fmicSome sound advice there
Oh don't we know about carb freeze Spooky!
World's biggestI need a Campus turbo in my life...with the worlds biggest fmicYou seem to of forgotten about my other one!
It's not too big on the campus, about average size compated to others
We ALL know how big the other one is
For a Campus, yours is rather large
I really wish I could mate, it would be nice to finally meet a few people on here. I'm doing up my place again all weekend as ite being rented out on the 19th of this month. I'm moving in with my girlfriend to your town, Ashford. I will be looking to get the 5 back on the road after then.
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