Hi i was wondering as i know some of you guys have 172's how do they compare to a gt turbo ? ive never driven or been in one! but used to have a ph1 clio valver years ago ! that was ok but had to rev the pants of it to move i know as far as carisma is concerned the gt turbo wins hands down also i prefer the boxy shape but im wanting to turn my shell into a stripped out 150/160ish wknd/sunny/trackday toy! but ph1 172's can be picked up for not a lot of money and are probably a less rusty base to start from with a newer generation engine and electrics etc etc my heart says build a gt turbo but my head says clio