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Okaay then, next comparison.:D
again.similar size engine to the gtt, are they twin cam?16v?i know nothing about them so ill leave it up to someone to inform me of the performance of these cars:)
all i'll say is im Assuming they are more tuneable/powerful than a gtt? maybe? unsure.:confused:
i have seen some pretty quick ones about.
they are fuel injected already ,so straight away they are more tuneable :)
hmm i wonder what the outcome would be at 1/4mile event..? r5gt turbo vs starlet/glanza turbo..???
i would have thought starlets where a better match for us rather than polo g40's:confused:
at the end of the day the 5 probably isnt the fastest 1400cc car out there - anyone know what is.?
the beauty of it is that there cheap to fix and a nice basic engine that still gives modern cars a good run:)
[quote=raj;7008]hmm i wonder what the outcome would be at 1/4mile event..? r5gt turbo vs starlet/glanza turbo..???
i suggested inviting them on the g40 thread :)
hi guys a m8 got a starlet turbo and with a few mod it does 140 in 4 gear no **** lol it eats my 5 alive but the got chracter tho the 5 still wins lol:smokin::smokin::smokin:
http://www.toyotagtturbo.com/forums/...ad.php?t=13532
dont show much difference
User Name : slostar
Car Model & Year: 91 gt
Engine Code: 5efte
Turbo & Boost Pressure: 21PSI
BHP / Torque (ft-ibs) 200KW+
0-60ft : 1.93
1/4mile time 11.75
Trap Speed (MPH) 122
Tyres: hoosier dot radial
Location of Recorded time: meremere nz
Link to Members page:n/a
http://www.starletcentral.co.nz/imag...ip%20Small.jpg
User Name ben_j
Car Model & Year 1990 ep82
Engine Code 4efte
Turbo & Boost Pressure blitz k24 and 1bar
BHP / Torque (ft-ibs) 211bhp
0-60ft 2.2
1/4mile time 13.4
Trap Speed (MPH) 107
Tyres(street, semi or full slick) eagle f1's
Location of Recorded time Santa Pod
Link to Members page http://www.toyotagtturbo.com/showthread.php?t=2212
Time Slip http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...s/quarter1.jpg
My cousin has one of these, 260hp (apparently), and it shifts. My 200hp 5 can match it from take off but from rolling it pulls about a car length, truely frightening and bullet proof engine
140mph in 4th? so does it do 160+ in 5th? vid pleaseQuote:
Originally Posted by mad manz
ive been in a standard starlet turbo, it was a nice car, probly just as quick as a standard gtt and kind of feels like a gtt only that everything worked and it looks like a micra
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Originally Posted by 5alldaway
sister in law has one and has just forged the engine, it was 190 bhp before with a few mods and was pretty damn quick, its now in the reagon of 220 ish, and i watched her wizz around castle combe not many car on the track that could match it there, nice cars, but for me there japanese corsas.
engines are strong, and there highly tunable if you want to throw lots of wedge at them.
few other mates have tdo4 conversions and there 240+ with proof, and yes there quick, i think slightly better than the 5 on relaiblility and every day use.
Except, they're not made by GM..Quote:
Originally Posted by Ross99
:crap:hence why i said japanese corsas you donut
raj she's a keen memeber of the starbo owners club do you want me to get her to ask about see if they fancy a match up?
Lol, yeh.. but not as gay as corsa's, because they're not GM. :)
by all means go ahead and organise an event, however i wont be there as ive not got a running car yet.:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ross99
possibly the most even match up yet, starlets are more advanced but im sure the r5 gtt will put up a very strong showingQuote:
Originally Posted by raj
yes it'd defo be a good showdown, oldskool vs newskool.
has anyone every wondered how the gtt would fair up in a 1/2mile drag race..?
are there any 1/2 mile strips in the uk.?:confused:
i think 1/4miles are pretty boring:rolleyes: over too quick:scared: too many quick cars around now lol.
also just wondering.... what speed would you say a gtt is comfortable at when cruising at a constant high speed.? ie motorway cruising!
the last time i drove a 5 on the motorway i hated it as the turbo was screaming, i know it sounds daft but i hate a turbo sreaming when all you want to do is cruise at a relatively high speed. is this what t2 turbos are like.?
let s have a show down with the starlet turbo my mates getting one in feb **** they cheap to insure lol lets take them on:smokin::smokin::smokin::agree:
well i usually drive at about 85 comfortably, turbo isnt whining either but i guess thats because I have a T25.Quote:
Originally Posted by raj
i think there evenly matched to a point but looking at some of the 1/4 times on this sites board i dont think they'll quite pinch it somehow, usual 1/4 for 180-200 starbo is 14 secs from what i have seen,
Not a bad option these as a more modern GTT alternative. Shame the interiors look so crap. Superminiesque :crap:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1998-Toyota-St...d=p3286.c0.m14
This Glanza V is about as good as it gets in the Starlet world. Has to be the 1998 facelift. £4.5k though. Anthing less tends to be particularly ugly on in the inside and rather ugly on the outside.
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my brother has a glanza v,he has just bought a forged engine and the previouse owner was getting 116mph terminals @ 1.4bar:eek: still wined him up though saying im gonna kick his arse in the 5:laugh: the only prob i have with them is they are boring to drive compared to the 5
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Originally Posted by raj
depends what boost you are running to the sound of the turbo at any given speed. like when i first got my car , at low boost it would sound bad screaming at 90mph
once the boost was up at 15psi manifold , could cruise at 95mph and be under half boost , and its quite and sounds balanced :)
A mate's been messing around with them for a couple of years now, they're not too expensive to build a forged engine, including rods, for either, probably less than a 5 to be honest.
They've got a tiny CT9 turbo as standard, pretty similar is size to the stock T2 off the 5 really.
The last car I went out in had 299bhp and 301ft lbs... I'd been in 5's with 250bhp or less and they felt the same. Power figures are thrown around like they're everything to go by on all the Jap forums.
Mind you, matey's new build should be impressive, with the Gt2871R he's using. The lag is comical though, nothing till past 5k rpm. The stock heads flow well and the cams are pretty good too. Although I haven't seen the difference with an aftermarket set of cams.
They look proper gay though.
i raced a black glanza on croft erace track in my gtt and buried it , they dont handle, not as standard anyway, but they are bomb proofQuote:
Originally Posted by raj
theyre about as gay as can be, i mean starlet, they might aswell have called it cup cake or twinkle star. everyone thinks there a micra and always ask you " have you just put those turbo stickers on or what"
In my experience a starlet needs aprox 50 to 70hp more to keep up with a 5.I don't know why but íts a fact morever It looks like the helmet of a soldier in Starwars and its handling makes me believe that the suspension is filled with jello.
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Originally Posted by BlueFish5Gt
:agree:its a girls car , no matter what speed there capable of, youd look a tw*t in one
i feel a tw*t in a 5 :laugh: i find them too small nowaday:cry:Quote:
Originally Posted by ollyhock
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Originally Posted by raj
why you put a bit of holiday weight on:)
No its because 5 is a masculine car that makes you feel ten times you size when you drive it.:D:D:DThat's what makes you feel you don't fit in a 5 and that is the exact reason why you feel a Starlet is more comfortable.Your manhood and ego are so suppressed by driving a Japanese super market car that you get the feeling you have the size of a Japanese driver (in every aspect):laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:.Quote:
Originally Posted by ollyhock
err ive never owned a jap car:scared:. and to be honest the 5 is small but it isnt that small, i think its more the seat size width and height from the floor than anything else.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueFish5Gt
id be alot more comfortable with wider/lower seats, but as im not keeping the 5 im not bothering :)
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Originally Posted by raj
Oooh you fibber. What about the Primera I bought off you 3 years ago :laugh: :laugh:
;)
i have never come across a quick starlet gtt round my way, i have had plenty of them have a go tho an get embarassed!:cry: lol i saw one yesterday that had been involved in what looked like a big accident the whole rear end was squashed! i couldnt help but speak to the two guys who were looking at it apparantly there mate lost it on a corner and ended up going rear end first into a wall! an he is still in hospital :scared:, i thought "hhmmmm, he must have been trying to keep up with a gtt";)
stll tho i quite like em quirkey little motors with good potential!
Im not sure how you've worked that out...Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueFish5Gt
It's that old RTOC formula don't you know Adam :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Adam L
lol, im sure that was in my pops name :D..?Quote:
Originally Posted by Trevhib
lol thats nonsense. My cousins one on low boost of 215hp keeps up with my 200hp 5. At 266 he pulls.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueFish5Gt
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Originally Posted by raj
ive got monaco seats in and there a lot wider and lower feeling:)
i can image they'd be really poo poo on bends though..??Quote:
Originally Posted by ollyhock
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Originally Posted by raj
there not too bad, the cockpit of a 5 is cramped anyway you only lean from left to right a little bit before you touch the door anyway, but i can see your point raj:)
maybe if the starlet dyno is calibrated in BSHPQuote:
Originally Posted by Adam L
Accurate as always.The top mounted i/c when moved to f/m possition with o,9 bar boost produces 170hp.And a T3 turbo and a fmic on a starlet with 0,6 boost produces 250 hp.Only in Greek edition starlets.:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:.I am more than sure that these statements will only make you laugh but this is what starlet owners believe here.That is why we had a hell of a time with them in the late 90's.It was bup not bhp.(u stands for unicorn).Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew Cooke
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good to see that bhp figures are exaggerated the world over!
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