Possible events, have your say

As you may be aware myself and Ross (slammed66) are now helping out with regards to organising events so we have came up with a list of possible events please pick 2 that you would like the club to attend . if you feel theres an event that we have missed please let myself or ross know.:agree:

Events already organised

(soapymechs) Enfield Padgent of motering 25th and 26th of May
(Bluntys) Noble motorsport in derbyshire rolling road day Saturday 20th April
(R5MJH) Go karting at Crawleys indoor Karting center 28th April
(philr5t) Fete meet 6th May
(Big steve-Raider) Fri 31st May-June 2nd
(Ross) Retro show sunday 7th july santa pod
(Big steve-Raider) RTOC national day

Santa pod

The fast show 16th and 17th march
http://www.thefastshow.com/index.htm
Ultimate street car Friday 2nd to sun4th August
http://www.ultimatestreetcar.co.uk/index.html
street nationals Saturday 11th and Sunday 12th may
http://www.streetnationals.co.uk/index.html


Peterbourgh arena

Modified nationals 24th -26th may
http://www.modifiednationals.co.uk/

Castle combe

Classic and retro day Sunday the 29th of June


Prescott hill climb

Retro rides gathering Sunday August 18th
http://www.retroridesgathering.com/

Mallory park

practical performance cars in the park 2013 May 18th
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk/ppc-in-the-p...-may-18th.html

cholmondeley castle

pagent of power 14th to the 16th June
http://www.cpop.co.uk/

retro rides the gathering should be a no brainer for rtoc boys.

Set on a hill climb, great bunch of people, great camping.. cheap as chips.. . its a no brainer.


Where as on the other hand fast show = usual dismal weather with terible track action, freezing cold camping and lots of chavvy *******s to admire your dreamy r5 motor.

agree with everything dj says above :) happy birthday as well fella

hehe cheers dude.. another year , cheaper insurance woohooo the joys

http://www.retroridesgathering.com/

link yes i know its got last years details on there but it gives you an idea, this years is on 18th august

another event thats defo worth a look, i do know alot of the ford guys go to this

http://rallyday.com/

A couple of things I had in the pipeline:

• Shakespeare Raceway. Same as Santa Pod but assumed this would be less busy
• Rolling Road day @ Futruremotorsports in Leicester - Dont want to clash with Blunty's Noble day, hence not booking anything. Need the numbers for this too!

I was going to post up the Ace Cafe meets for the year, we can always "bump" them closer to the time.

I also wanted to get some track days up for this year and some POD days too. BUT this will be becuase I want to go and will see how many peeps follow/attend, there are a handful of guys on RTOC that will show up and put on a show!

another thing id like to do is set up a big rtoc rolling road event again at scoffs place (efi-parts) for august/september time ?

I have gone retro rides gathering it looks really good on youtube and if you type it in google and go on there page theres a video looks ace and i wanted to go to ppc event i like the magazine and i have never been

4 0f us have commented on this thread but only 2 people have voted;). and happy birthday djiunk

voted, would it be an idea to add links to the events so people can get a better idea of them?

yea good idea can you edit it for me blunty as i don't know how to do links:ashamed:

no bother ill do it for you fella

Ive voted too. Happy bithday dj! :)

Just one to mention that may have escaped notice .Biggest Frenchie day there is :coffee:

http://www.prescott-hillclimb.com/may2011.aspx

I went to the gathering last year and it was a good day out. This year ill be camping as that's where all the fun is. I've spoken to the founder tonight and I'm seeing if there's space left for a stand. If people wanted to go to the gathering, how many would be interested in camping and would anyone want there car on a stand?

Ross

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no bother ill do it for you fella

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Thanks for doin that blunty :agree:

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I went to the gathering last year and it was a good day out. This year ill be camping as that's where all the fun is. I've spoken to the founder tonight and I'm seeing if there's space left for a stand. If people wanted to go to the gathering, how many would be interested in camping and would anyone want there car on a stand?

Ross

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Just because were organising events together i dont see why we have to share a tent? :laugh:

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Just because were organising events together i dont see why we have to share a tent? :laugh:

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Lol there will be 3 of us if you come steve and whats worrying me is why they call you big steve :laugh:

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Just one to mention that may have escaped notice .Biggest Frenchie day there is :coffee:

http://www.prescott-hillclimb.com/may2011.aspx

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Is that a good show is it clee?

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Lol there will be 3 of us if you come steve and whats worrying me is why they call you big steve :laugh:

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:eek: :cry:

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Is that a good show is it clee?

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Excellent.

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Is that a good show is it clee?

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i really feel we should get to this show...its on my birthday and id love to take the rowan car there or maybe the hillclimb car....:):agree:

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Lol there will be 3 of us if you come steve and whats worrying me is why they call you big steve :laugh:

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:laugh: ;)

So thats on saterday and sunday 1st+2nd of june so thats another option then i want to try and sort this out this week if we stand a chance of gettin a club stand at these shows so if you want us to try for this show just put a thumbs up on this thread thanks.

La vie en bleu sat + sun 1st+2nd of june

That's the date of sangliers though :(

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That's the date of sangliers though :(

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Doh, ill have to climb that hill another day...

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Doh, ill have to climb that hill another day...

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there is another show at the same place the retro rides gathering that looks good

keep voteing for us guys the quicker its done the more likely we will be able to get a club stand

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another thing id like to do is set up a big rtoc rolling road event again at scoffs place (efi-parts) for august/september time ?

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I've voted :agree:

thanks mate i added your fete day up on the events all ready booked hope you dont mind

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So thats on saterday and sunday 1st+2nd of june so thats another option then i want to try and sort this out this week if we stand a chance of gettin a club stand at these shows so if you want us to try for this show just put a thumbs up on this thread thanks.

La vie en bleu sat + sun 1st+2nd of june

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Now added to the poll

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Now added to the poll

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Ah, cannot now vote on but not a problem asI will probably do this one anyway with Reno alpine if we don't cover it. It is a great venue and event.

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Ah, cannot now vote on but not a problem as I will probably do this one anyway with Reno alpine if we don't cover it. It is a great venue and event.

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Ah, cannot now vote on but not a problem as I will probably do this one anyway with Reno alpine if we don't cover it. It is a great venue and event.

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If you just put a thumbs up on the thread mate then me and ross will count that as a vote

Voted :agree:

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If you just put a thumbs up on the thread mate then me and ross will count that as a vote

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I've voted :agree:

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Cheers mate you have just reminded me I need to bump the fete day thread as the fete organisers are waiting for my response to let them know if we still want to entertain the locals of Surrey again with the cars :)

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another thing id like to do is set up a big rtoc rolling road event again at scoffs place (efi-parts) for august/september time ?

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Any idea's for the day/date for The EFi-Parts R/R Day? :cool:

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Any idea's for the day/date for The EFi-Parts R/R Day? :cool:

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Castle combe :agree: gets my vote :agree:

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Castle combe :agree: gets my vote :agree:

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Looks good i havent been to castle combe before

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Any idea's for the day/date for The EFi-Parts R/R Day? :cool:

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i will discuss with scoff to sort a suitable date, it will defo be on a sat or sunday probably towards end of certain month

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A couple of things I had in the pipeline:

• Shakespeare Raceway. Same as Santa Pod but assumed this would be less busy

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no need to assume, always quieter than pod. i used to pay £30 at pod for 3 runs, i pay £25 at shakespeare and usually lay down 20+ runs and still have to time to sit and watch :agree:

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[/LIST]no need to assume, always quieter than pod. i used to pay £30 at pod for 3 runs, i pay £25 at shakespeare and usually lay down 20+ runs and still have to time to sit and watch :agree:

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Only been to shakey once and I won't be rushing back. It was for the viva outlaws drag day last year and I only managed 3 runs in a whole day! Kept letting bikes through in front of us and it was a real dive. Personally I think York is better.

just an idea lads, wouldnt it be better to have a main event every three months so that people on a budget get chance to save etc, and that way you get a stronger turnout.

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just an idea lads, wouldnt it be better to have a main event every three months so that people on a budget get chance to save etc, and that way you get a stronger turnout.

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That is a valid point mate but we have got one at castle combe so its doubtful everyone from down south will go to that but alot of the northen lads may do then theres pod and trackdays everyone has a favourite plus we are getting people to vote so in reality there choosing which events they can do :agree:

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just an idea lads, wouldnt it be better to have a main event every three months so that people on a budget get chance to save etc, and that way you get a stronger turnout.

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Unfortunately, although that makes perfect sense on paper, it doesn't actually work. Look at The National Day. That happens once a year, everybody knows when it is as the date is announced early, yet hardly any members turns up (% wise) :crap: :scratch:

but we have had situations were people have said i cannot do because i am going to the ring or national day is the same month as fcs, so people cannot do both.
Tbh the weather and the other things going on in peoples lives lives plays a massive part in events also.
One thing i wouldnt mind doing that i have seen is a tunnel run, cannot beat seeing loads of motors in a massive convoy like when national day was held at fcs a few years ago and we all drove from the campsite to rockingham.

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but we have had situations were people have said i cannot do because i am going to the ring or national day is the same month as fcs, so people cannot do both.
Tbh the weather and the other things going on in peoples lives lives plays a massive part in events also.
One thing i wouldnt mind doing that i have seen is a tunnel run, cannot beat seeing loads of motors in a massive convoy like when national day was held at fcs a few years ago and we all drove from the campsite to rockingham.

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Road trip :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A6rdal_Tunnel

But a choice is always good to go for with events for those who can make them that day. But as for ND I am not sure what puts people off as its a great day to meet people.

Has everyone voted?!?! Some great ideas and thoughts on here, keep it up.

Castle Coombe is an hour and a half from me (Staines), I would attend (and track my car) if we had an event there.

We also need more members to sort out some local meets, Mike in Milton Keynes was going to sort something out and we could all so the same. We have at least 2 monthly meets around Surrey (Surrey meet and Ace Cafe). These are all FREE and only require you to turn up, Renault Turbo in toe or not! :p

The overall idea with RTOC events is to have something for everyone, this can be a challenge as we are all into different things: Show and Shine comps, Track days, Drag Strip events (this is not a ladyboy taking their clothes off :eek:), Rolling Road days or just a piss up and a party.

Can we sort a southern area meet? Brands hatch or somewhere? Nationals is a no go for me due to the distance. It's a 7 hour round trip for me and I'd only be able to go for a day due to work commitments.

Be nice to see some other turbo'd renaults local

How about trying to organising an event here


http://www.maitlandracing.com/north-...tune-calendar/

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Can we sort a southern area meet? Brands hatch or somewhere? Nationals is a no go for me due to the distance. It's a 7 hour round trip for me and I'd only be able to go for a day due to work commitments.

Be nice to see some other turbo'd renaults local

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Davo, what are thinking about doing: A track day? Meet other Renault Turbo owners? Or both?

There are a lot of people local to Chelsford. The southern X-mas do was in Cambridge and we had over 18 people turn up (+1's included).

I'd be up for brands thrash day.:smokin:

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I'd be up for brands thrash day.:smokin:

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Take the red 5 and Demo it to potential buyers ;)

Good idea, depends on how many 'bite marks' you want to end up with on the passenger seat Shoppers....:burnrubber:

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Davo, what are thinking about doing: A track day? Meet other Renault Turbo owners? Or both?

There are a lot of people local to Chelsford. The southern X-mas do was in Cambridge and we had over 18 people turn up (+1's included).

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Yeah a bit of both mate. Be good not having to travel loads.

I reckon the south and south east area would be ideal for a mini meet. What dya reckon?

I personally think we should list all names on a National day list..... then tick whos attending/Paid So people online get a good idea whos going then the people who arent attending have to write why they cant :D lets see the best excuse :agree: best excuse gets a free ND ticket so they have to go.

I'm definately up for the Retro Ride day in August.

Right guys i have put the poll back on here after it got lost i know its annoying but please can you vote again thanks for your help :agree:

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Thanks to those who have voted so far keep it up guys :agree:

Birmingham nec classic car show gets my vote. Maybee we could talk to the raoc, Rccc, Clio sport and the other renault clubs to get a stand near them. We might get some new members from it.
I went to last years ccs and couldn't believe how many car clubs there were. Even the fiat panda owners club turned up ffs but not r5gtt in sight. :cry:

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How about trying to organising an event here


http://www.maitlandracing.com/north-...tune-calendar/

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Have you been there before dave what day in particuler did you have in mind for it mate?

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Birmingham nec classic car show gets my vote. Maybee we could talk to the raoc, Rccc, Clio sport and the other renault clubs to get a stand near them. We might get some new members from it.
I went to last years ccs and couldn't believe how many car clubs there were. Even the fiat panda owners club turned up ffs but not r5gtt in sight. :cry:

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Fiat pandas owners club lol we should look into as your right its great advertising because you get thousands of people goin to that show

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Have you been there before dave what day in particuler did you have in mind for it mate?

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Yeah been quite a few times in the past... They only seem to hold test n tune days, think is maybe a gd place for a southern meet & anyone else who's up for a bit of a laugh.. Maybe someone could speak to them and arrange something? They also do sprint courses at the same venue, however I don't know much about them and think you need to be part of a sprint type club..

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Fiat pandas owners club lol we should look into as your right its great advertising because you get thousands of people goin to that show

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There actually is one
http://www.pandaownersclub.co.uk/

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Yeah been quite a few times in the past... They only seem to hold test n tune days, think is maybe a gd place for a southern meet & anyone else who's up for a bit of a laugh.. Maybe someone could speak to them and arrange something? They also do sprint courses at the same venue, however I don't know much about them and think you need to be part of a sprint type club..

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we could have a word with them and see if we can go on a day when theres a test a tune day. that way we can find out if you have to be in a sprint club?

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There actually is one
http://www.pandaownersclub.co.uk/

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you a member woody? a secret passion?:laugh:

I'm a member of Sevenoaks and district motor club, we organise sprint courses at North Weald as part of the speed league. To do sprints to msa standards, you are looking at a club membership, a speed licence, signed into a local championship, have all relevant safety equipment and an eligible car.

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we could have a word with them and see if we can go on a day when theres a test a tune day. that way we can find out if you have to be in a sprint club?

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The drag racing side of it is rwyb (same as pod etc) so really all we'd need to do is ask if we could have a club stand of some sort and I little area??? It's also quite a cheap day out..

Thanks Matt, that's right it's the Sevenoaks club as I know a couple of people who are part of it... Do they not do rwyb type sprint events at all Matt?

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I'm a member of Sevenoaks and district motor club, we organise sprint courses at North Weald as part of the speed league. To do sprints to msa standards, you are looking at a club membership, a speed licence, signed into a local championship, have all relevant safety equipment and an eligible car.

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so thats a no then unless you went on ur own matt going solo for RTOC :laugh: do you have any ideas on events for the club matt

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The drag racing side of it is rwyb (same as pod etc) so really all we'd need to do is ask if we could have a club stand of some sort and I little area??? It's also quite a cheap day out..

Thanks Matt, that's right it's the Sevenoaks club as I know a couple of people who are part of it... Do they not so rwyb type sprint events at all Matt?

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oh sorry i was replying to matt then dave so the drag raceing is run what you brung ?

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oh sorry i was replying to matt then dave so the drag raceing is run what you brung ?

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Yeah Chris that's correct the drag racing is run what ya brung.. :D

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so thats a no then unless you went on ur own matt going solo for RTOC :laugh:

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I don't mind doing that.....;)

They do auto solos, which are borderline sprints, less restricted on cars and equipment.

Here's a quick vid of the North Weald course I did in Ricardos clio and mine....this is Jeff in his supercharged zetec engined Sylvia.....:eek:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HLk7dn3pDrs

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Here's a quick vid of the North Weald course I did in Ricardos clio and mine....this is Jeff in his supercharged zetec engined Sylvia.....:eek:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HLk7dn3pDrs

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Jeff is a frigin loony :devil: so what events would you reccomend matt as you move in the motersport circles

also can everyone who voted before please do so again as we had to redo the poll because it broke :agree:

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Jeff is a frigin loony :devil: so what events would you reccomend matt as you move in the motersport circles

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That course was crap that day, came close to rolling Ricardos car......:laugh: his face was a picture when I came back to the paddock.

If someone were interested in base level Motorsport events, then sprints/hillclimbs are probably the best option, as mentioned join a local club etc.....

Of course, racing is the next step up, but more of a cost really, there is the cost of a trailer, a barge to tow it with, more safety equipment than a sprint car, more stringent rules than sprints, the cost of tyres.....The list goes on, sometimes the cost of building the car is nothing compared to keeping it running.


What's the criteria for the 'club event'? I suppose you would have more fun at a trackday than a sprint, but no 'completion', you certainly get more value for money/track time compared to a sprint too.....

It's a shame World Series is a no go in the uk, great event. Personally I'd like another anniversary race of the cup cars, or something like that, but we live in the real world.

there is no critera its just trying to get everyone involved in the club and get people to come to meets i personaly like lots of type of motersports and so on i go to alot of vintage truck shows and i go to some bike meets with freinds and obviously i like anything to do with cars

I see yes, in fact reading over what you asked in the first place and what I've written.....makes me sound like I'm on some really strong medication....:innocent:

I did mention in another thread about the crystal palace sprint, and possibly getting a stand there too, its a great event, its held on a bank holiday normally, its the ONLY motorsport event in London. There are some great cars like gt40's, bugatti type 35, ex formula cars, historic racers and modern LMP style cars. Great for spectators, general punters and enthusiasts. The paddock is open in the trees so you can get up close and personal with the owner/drivers as well as the cars.

i will google it tomorrow and have a look mate can car clubs have a stand on there aswell

Yes.

I'll ask at my end and see what happens?;)

In the meantime, have a looksie here.......

http://motorsportatthepalace.co.uk/


There is a contact here.......

exhibitors@motorsportatthepalace.co.uk

26+27th of may ok cool well see what you can find out it does look realky good and as its a bank holiday its worth traveling for and make a weekend of it

That's it.;) plus if you tell the other half you fancy a couple of days in London together I bet her eyes will light up and she will say yes!....:niceone:

keep the votes coming people every one counts and is very important we get as much feedback as possible

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i agree only 18 people have voted i think people don't realise that the vote had to be reset so if you voted before then please do so again. thanks guys:agree:

Chris did you try that link in the crystal palace event? The one for exhibitors.

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Chris did you try that link in the crystal palace event? The one for exhibitors.

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hi matt how are you i pmd you twice buddy i asked if you could email me the link :agree: medchris@live.co.uk

Must have missed that as inbox is filling up...
I'll do it now.

Got it cheers mate i will have a read when i get home :agree:

What about a 'Run to the sun' (doesn't have to be Newquay) type event?

It was banded around a few years back, but never went any further than that. Might be more interest for doing it this year?

run to the sun is a brilliant thing and id love us do something like that, and defo consider newquay as the destination

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Several convoys from each corner of the country, so to speak, all heading to a Newquay campsite for a (long) weekend, beers & bbq, everyone trundles off home Sunday evening/Monday. J.D :)

Rent the top gear race track. :)

You should put where the shows are located on the vote board- I'd go to all the local ones

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Several convoys from each corner of the country, so to speak, all heading to a Newquay campsite for a (long) weekend, beers & bbq, everyone trundles off home Sunday evening/Monday. J.D :)

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a big :agree: from me sounds like a brilliant plan

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Rent the top gear race track. :)

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Nice one mate.

Is there going to be a pod day or even better a week end at all this year

Also I'm with dave reed north Weald sounds a good idea

[QUOTE=TopCat;313711]Rent the top gear race track

Now that's the best idea I've heard all week, we could do our own lap times score board :agree:

wheres frog at the pod day to vote for:crap:

Pod gets my vote.

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wheres frog at the pod day to vote for:crap:

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Got to love frog of the pod. :agree:

Pod days are the best

Is that where RTOC books santapod to themselves?

yes are own event fast show and ultimate street car is a chav festival

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Trouble is how many people do you think will turn up the club is not as big as it once was and its very exspensive to hire santa pod ?

to hire pod for the day is just over 4k and for blyton park is just over 10k so the committee just spends all the club funds on one event now:confused:

so for a pod day to happen about 60 of us would need to turn up at about £60 a ticket?

Doesnt seem too unrealistic?

No I don't think so mate my point being its just over 4k and what if only 10 cars turn up its a big loss I am not sure what the club turnover is. Is it no good if we join in on an event thats allready on?

we tired that last year at the pod and it was a disaster no rtoc area for club cars to be together and you could only get 3 runs on the day, where as before on frog at pod i think most poeple got over 20 runs.the club funds from membership every year is always near 15k your on committe you should know the figures.

I have just joined the commitee so it is new to me I am also doing this in my spare time which I dont have much of working 60 plus hours a week so no need to get at me over figures I believe the website needs upgradeing aswell but I will look into it tommorow and then we can talk bout it then is that ok?

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Will be pissed not to see this again, had a few memorable weekends at the pod with the rtoc posse:agree:

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now added, im not sure on clubs budget this year etc maybe someone higher up can shed some light on it?

Putting only one rtoc event on is a pain but I we can't afford two then I understand. But having it crossed with fcs is going to cause issues.
We need to be at fcs promoting ourselves rather than isolating at blyton.

The karting has been changed to the 28th now :agree:

Voted frog at the pod, enjoyed the event at the pod last year even though it was mega busy :)

Frog of the pod for me! :agree: best rtoc event that has ever been!

Although I have never been to Blyton or Mallory, I'm to scared to turn that round thing that sits infront of me whilst driving:wasntme:

Awesome having the whole place to ourselves, at no other time is it possible to do as much test and tune and get loads of runs in. Last years wasn't really backed by the club in full I feel, turn out was pants, organization was rubbish, I still enjoyed myself, it's just much more special having the place to ourselves.

Frog of the pod gets my vote aswell

guys iv dropped a bit of a clanger, i shouldnt of added the frog of the pod option as its been brought to my attention that something is possibly going be sorted where we tag along at another event.

so my apologies for the balls up :crap:

Got love how chilled out everyone is at our own pod days. No queue, lots of laughs, helping each other out and as a bonus theres normally another event the following day to have a nose around. :agree:

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guys iv dropped a bit of a clanger, i shouldnt of added the frog of the pod option as its been brought to my attention that something is possibly going be sorted where we tag along at another event.

so my apologies for the balls up :crap:

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looks like you've taken this voting poll down for frog at the pod because it was going to win, maybe its time you start listening to what members want!!!!!

hey robbie if it was up to me there would be a frog of the pod event every year, like i say i shouldnt of added that option as it seems like a no go for this year.

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looks like you've taken this voting poll down for frog at the pod because it was going to win, maybe its time you start listening to what members want!!!!!

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Like button. No pod is a travesty

Pod used to be the national day, and at a less price than a track rental.... Makes sense it's brought back as the nd...

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now thats a suggestion that can be taken on board, i reckon it would be interesting to have a vote on where everyone would prefer next years national day

What a mess.

Ok, so why don't we cancel Blyton & just do Pod? :confused:

:laugh: You've got to love RTOC. No one turned up at Pod last year now everyone wants to go! :brickwall:

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:laugh: You've got to love RTOC. No one turned up at Pod last year now everyone wants to go! :brickwall:

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That's what I was thinking. Last year's pod day was the fail of all fails :(

I do like a nice day out at 'pod though :cool:

I haven't read this thread, just the last few posts, but I can say that RTOC can't book an exclusive weekend day. Pod won't hire it to us since 2006. Unless that's changed this year?

Fridays, they would do.

Last year Miller suggested booking into a weekend test and tune Pod day which we did.

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the club funds from membership every year is always near 15k

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Half that now days.

2012 was close to, or perhaps just dipped into deficit for the first time ever.

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to hire pod for the day is just over 4k and for blyton park is just over 10k so the committee just spends all the club funds on one event now:confused:

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4K is a Friday, not a weekend. I presume that would be nearer to a track day hire. Last year the Blyton day lost a lot compared to the previous ones which had more people promoting and selling the event and tickets and broke even or nearly so.

It's says have your say in the title.

My say is can we make our bloody minds up..lol what am I targeting for track or pod? :scratch: I don't care either way as I turned up for both last year..

Most of the people who are asking for pod were there last year.
Blyton was fun and I would like to do both if possible.

"Everyone" wants to go to Pod means about 10 people who said something in this thread.

Ideally the club will need to sell more than 60 tickets for a Friday event. And that wasn't happening.

People said the Sunday event last year was not advertised well so evidently the vast majority of people need a lot of telling, prodding, motivating. They don't just buy tickets and turn up.

Members leave it until the last week or so, even the day, to buy. That would be OK if the organisers knew they were going to sell out anyway. But now there's greater uncertainly that even half the required sales will take place. That's cause to doubt the wisdom of booking a venue and 20 people voting in a poll is not all that solid for a big event, it may be OK for booking 10 or 20 places and organising a stand at someone's show, which is what this thread is asking.

I'd be very disappointed if there wasn't a Pod Day this year, to be honest I've found them much better than the Mallory/Bylton weekends we do

The last time we done one I think I counted more cars running up the pod than there was on the track, that's members and not people who buy the excess tickets to cover cost
Last years Pod Day was a total cock up, no real push for it and arranging it on a day where there was a huge VW show on the same weekend was a poor idea

I'd say Pod Day instead of Blyton for this year too, far better day :agree:

One thing I will say is avoid going to one of those 'chav' days like USC and Fast Show, track prep is crap and the que's are ridiculous
A day on our own or tag along on a 'test and tune' day would get my vote

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Most of the people who are asking for pod were there last year.

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That were 9 sales in advance at £60 and 4 x £10 entry on the day.

The other 31 went for £30 instead of £60 to other people who were there from other clubs thanks mainly it seems to Miller and Glenn.

So shall we book Pod on a Friday this year just so those nine can attend?

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arranging it on a day where there was a huge VW show on the same weekend was a poor idea

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AFAIK, there was no mention of VW when we booked it. It was supposed to be a test and tune day and no three runs only nonsense.

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I'd say Pod Day instead of Blyton for this year too, far better day :agree:

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Friday only. No weekend, as mentioned above.

I'm not being negative here, just realistic. :) People seem unable to grasp the bigger picture when demanding the RTOC book something or other because it was good in years gone by.

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I'd be very disappointed if there wasn't a Pod Day this year, to be honest I've found them much better than the Mallory/Bylton weekends we do

The last time we done one I think I counted more cars running up the pod than there was on the track, that's members and not people who buy the excess tickets to cover cost
Last years Pod Day was a total cock up, no real push for it and arranging it on a day where there was a huge VW show on the same weekend was a poor idea

I'd say Pod Day instead of Blyton for this year too, far better day :agree:

One thing I will say is avoid going to one of those 'chav' days like USC and Fast Show, track prep is crap and the que's are ridiculous
A day on our own or tag along on a 'test and tune' day would get my vote

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i agree with mark we were there last year too it was good id vote for this

So why won't Pod let us book a day on the weekend then?

I don't mind it being a Friday, i'm never expecting it to be on a weekend either just a real shame that Pod Day is being pushed aside

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i agree with mark we were there last year too it was good id vote for this

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To be honest last year was crap mate, just felt like a few of us turned up to a show at Pod rather than have our usual Pod Day

I would suggest joining in with a POD test and tune day but this time have a club stand and promote it well. The problem is always that Pod might change things and have some show that days that earns them a lot more then a test and tune day. I think they don't normally do what we did last year, which is sell 40 tickets out of 100 for such a day. I guess that they hold those test and tune days in reserve in case a big club want to put on a big show.

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So why won't Pod let us book a day on the weekend then?

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We had 300 people turn up. It was 'deserted'. They make money from the gate, not just the booking fee.

A big club might have 3000(?) people turn up.

I think Pod don't tend to book out weekdays much so don't figure that into their annual profit and loss. So £4k or so covers their costs if they do and only 20 people turn up, ie, it's not dependant on the gate takings.

Looks like Blyton 2012 sold 43 track time tickets! That's hardly any.

There was no single pod event last year so i thought that was how we where going to do things. Can we maybe alternate it each year? or as someone mentioned have a vote? This years national day is booked and on the thread that confirms the date people seemed pleased, obviously theres comments about it being on the same day as FCS. but you have to be honest there is no way the club can afford to do 2 national days a year and take big losses. Myself and ross put this thread up so we can start doing things as a club to get more of a community spiret and try and get something for everyone, also advertise the club thats it

I think that if the RTOC can put on successful small events, that might grow interest in the larger ones.

But I think selling 30 or 40 tickets for ND means the RTOC can't book a venue to itself any more. Unless that changes this year and a lot more tickets sell for Blyton and people do turn up to the small club events.

I thought showing our faces under the RTOC banner at other events is good advertising

I think so too.

So do members now not want this year's ND at Blyton?

Bit late in the day for that to be flagged up, isn't it?

People seem to forget how stagnant ND @ Pod became, hence changing to a track based venue, and also the lack of interest from the Pod event last year.

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So do members now not want this year's ND at Blyton?

Bit late in the day for that to be flagged up, isn't it?

People seem to forget how stagnant ND @ Pod became, hence changing to a track based venue, and also the lack of interest from the Pod event last year.

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I dont think its a case of no one wants to go just look at the thread where the date was confirmed

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So do members now not want this year's ND at Blyton?

Bit late in the day for that to be flagged up, isn't it?

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It will be a shame to loose Pod day (FOTP) as it really was a good day out (& night :eek::eek:) Last one I attended I managed 20+ runs. I understand the need to save on the coffers but IMO, it's not going to work tagging onto a test & tune as you can just arrange an event & meet up at one of those anyway AFAIK & maybe only manage 3 runs :disagree:

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I thought showing our faces under the RTOC banner at other events is good advertising

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yea like showing our face at the fcs and try and get more members to join rtoc,before anyone booked blyton why not contact rockingham raceway and ASK when the frenchcarshow is on.

Fcs is at castle combe this year. Tbf the nd was booked well before fcs even had a clue on there date

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Rent the top gear race track

Now that's the best idea I've heard all week, we could do our own lap times score board :agree:

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I have to say that burning around the same track we all see every week on the tv is appealing to me.

If the committee are interested in enquiring, its dunsfold park.

They do rent it for events etc- imagine it could be expensive, but I bet there would be plenty of rtoc members up for it.

What are YOU sayin??!?

** Thought I'd add that this is near mike at gt turbo spares which is a plus!

What's the postcode of that? I think it's an amazing idea but if we can't get members to travel say 100mile we ain't going toget them travel further surely? I do think I can do better than 1.46 lol

I may come to ND. But won't be going on the track cause IMO it's dog turd. On the other hand I'd be at pod in a flash even though its 200 mile.

Top gear gear track is good in small ish numbers... As its a figure off 8 track... One car at a time :(

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I may come to ND. But won't be going on the track cause IMO it's dog turd. On the other hand I'd be at pod in a flash even though its 200 mile.

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Why is that because of that particuler track ? or just trackdays in general?

Blyton blyton blyton :) i wish we had a big spoon logo

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Top gear gear track is good in small ish numbers... As its a figure off 8 track... One car at a time :(

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Yeah bit of a downside I spose. :/

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What's the postcode of that? I think it's an amazing idea but if we can't get members to travel say 100mile we ain't going toget them travel further surely? I do think I can do better than 1.46 lol

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Nationals is a seven hour round trip for us southern boys mate :/

Top gear track?...It's **** there, its not a nice track at all.

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thats nothing..... if I was to attend ND this year it would take me longer than that just to get there :laugh:

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thats nothing..... if I was to attend ND this year it would take me longer than that just to get there :laugh:

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Take it u won't be going then mate? I'm gonna go hopefully, but will be convoying hopefully with the Kent/Essex members

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Top gear track?...It's **** there, its not a nice track at all.

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:agree:

rtoc without frog of the pod noooooo:sad2: it make sense to combine nd and pod if thats the case, we want our own day so why not at pod?:scratch:dont realy want to see the demise of the quater mile board, my motivation,and then being called the renault oe owners club:crap:

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yea like showing our face at the fcs and try and get more members to join rtoc,before anyone booked blyton why not contact rockingham raceway and ASK when the frenchcarshow is on.

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Thats just unfortunate mate these things happen were booked at blyton now. and if your honest do you think people will turn up to a week day at pod?

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rtoc without frog of the pod noooooo:sad2: it make sense to combine nd and pod if thats the case, we want our own day so why not at pod?:scratch:dont realy want to see the demise of the quater mile board, my motivation,and then being called the renault oe owners club:crap:

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we cant get our own day at a weekend at pod mate we are too small

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if your honest do you think people will turn up to a week day at pod?

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Yes they would, many have turned up before and i'm sure we'd get a good turn out again if it went ahead

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we cant get our own day at a weekend at pod mate we are too small

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Lol the VW MASSIVE filled every space and field going. We would prob fill next to the showers numbers talk and we don't have them.. Pitty

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Yes they would, many have turned up before and i'm sure we'd get a good turn out again if it went ahead

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like last year? how many people realisticly do you think will turn up mark

The toughest thing about events is to arrange one which keeps everybody happy.

Best of luck Chris. ;)

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like last year? how many people realisticly do you think will turn up mark

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i would make the extra effort, if this was our only option:cool:

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like last year? how many people realisticly do you think will turn up mark

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Don't know why people keep comparing Pod Day to only last year, last years was a right cock up.
The previous years have been brilliant, all you got to do is have a look at the pic's and you'll see how many people/cars turned up for the day on a Friday. Campsite was very busy too all night so saying the club won't get the numbers on a Friday is rubbish

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i would make the extra effort, if this was our only option:cool:

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Me too. I'd go on a week day.

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i would make the extra effort, if this was our only option:cool:

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:agree: People make the effort if its something they are interested in and enjoy ;)

I think I know why new members don't say anything lol it's obvious we will never please everyone sometime the descision needs to be made and people either go or don't.. I'm so glad I have nothing todo with it but I will attend either way were ever it is.. It's hard

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:agree: People make the effort if its something they are interested in and enjoy ;)

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i agree but if you look at it this way what happens to people who prefer track days? the club can only afford to do one big event a year thats a fact and alot of people enjoyed blyton last year but i think it does highlight that maybe after this years national day we vote on what event we want to do as national day. that way no one can moan because its the majority. Do you think thats the way forwards:)

Maybe, or maybe the Committee should decide where ND is held - After all, they're the ones that organise it, as well as holding the purse strings of course.

Why not look at a new format for an event? Trackdays, 1/4 mile racing, and RR events have all been done before...

Trouble is the commitee get hammerd by people who dont agree with the location and or type of event so a vote would stop that and put it in the members hands

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i agree but if you look at it this way what happens to people who prefer track days? the club can only afford to do one big event a year thats a fact and alot of people enjoyed blyton last year but i think it does highlight that maybe after this years national day we vote on what event we want to do as national day. that way no one can moan because its the majority. Do you think thats the way forwards:)

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How comes the club funds have got that bad we can't afford both days like we have before, is there any reason for this?

I'm not saying we should forget track day lovers, to be honest that's why we hold a Nat Day at a track so those people get to do what they enjoy it just seems us drag racing lovers get put to the side because it seems hard to book a day at the Pod

A comment was raised earlier in that Pod won't let us book a weekend, why is this? Is there a reason and can we do anything to change it?

I think it should be put to vote everytime, as you say majority says where Nat Day is but still I recon it shouldn't plough all its money into it for one weekend that not everyone will enjoy, least save a few funds to please others too that's way everyone in the club is pleased (that was idea of both days in the beginning)

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How comes the club funds have got that bad we can't afford both days like we have before, is there any reason for this?

I'm not saying we should forget track day lovers, to be honest that's why we hold a Nat Day at a track so those people get to do what they enjoy it just seems us drag racing lovers get put to the side because it seems hard to book a day at the Pod

A comment was raised earlier in that Pod won't let us book a weekend, why is this? Is there a reason and can we do anything to change it?

I think it should be put to vote everytime, as you say majority says where Nat Day is but still I recon it shouldn't plough all its money into it for one weekend that not everyone will enjoy, least save a few funds to please others too that's way everyone in the club is pleased (that was idea of both days in the beginning)

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yea i believe pod wont let us have a weekend because of the amount of people we bring they make money off the gate takeings aswell as the actual booking fee i believe. the trouble is myself and ross are only trying to organise a pressence at already organised events and have been on the commitee 5 mins :laugh:

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Trouble is the commitee get hammerd by people who dont agree with the location and or type of event so a vote would stop that and put it in the members hands

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That only works if everyone votes. You'd be lucky to get 100 votes in total, but prove me wrong by all means :agree:

Mark, club funds have taken a dive in the past 12 months - Combination of reduced members joining up, and cr8p turn-outs at the Pod day and Blyton (ok, ND wasn't too bad, but I think the club still made a loss, iirc).

I'm guessing the costs of 'hiring' a venue or 2 for the day have naturally increased as well.

If you dont vote you cant moan:p

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Mark, club funds have taken a dive in the past 12 months - Combination of reduced members joining up, and cr8p turn-outs at the Pod day and Blyton (ok, ND wasn't too bad, but I think the club still made a loss, iirc).

I'm guessing the costs of 'hiring' a venue or 2 for the day have naturally increased as well.

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That's understandable mate, i'll be honest I've not seen or heard about the club funds so didn't realise but can understand if funds have got that bad then its hard to do 2 big events, just a real shame its the Pod Day

I could go on for ages about this but Pod Day/Drag event held by the club more than likely isn't going to happen, lets hope next year that something could be arranged as I think a lot of people would agree it has been a very good day and prob some of the best we've done

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If you dont vote you cant moan:p

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If you don't add things we want to vote for then we can't vote.
Chris you need to start small and look at local meets. You've said it yourself that you just want members to tag along to existing events so stay along those lines rather than telling everyone they can't have a pod day.
Last years pod was a fail but it was poorly organised and to close to blyton which made members choose between the two funds wise.
Spread them right out so it gives people a chance to hit both with funds and time away from family.
I don't see how me made a loss last year either as Chris sold all the tickets at face value at the gate on the day, albeit to non members but he sold them all.

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If you don't add things we want to vote for then we can't vote.
Chris you need to start small and look at local meets. You've said it yourself that you just want members to tag along to existing events so stay along those lines rather than telling everyone they can't have a pod day.
Last years pod was a fail but it was poorly organised and to close to blyton which made members choose between the two funds wise.
Spread them right out so it gives people a chance to hit both with funds and time away from family.
I don't see how me made a loss last year either as Chris sold all the tickets at face value at the gate on the day, albeit to non members but he sold them all.

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Thats what this thread is about thats why there is no frog of the pod on here mate because thats all we want to do is tag on to other events we are not organising national day type events i never brought up frog of the pod i was just answearing a question and that kicked off an argument and fairplay ian has chipped in exsplaing why but more senior commitee members have kept quite who know whats goin on at end of the day it should of been put to the members we can only do one event this year what do the members want to do but its done and plenty of people where pleased with blyton

what I find really disappointing is today is the first day any of us have heard that there wont be a pod day, when did the committee decide this and why didnt they ask members.
Also chris you are taking alot of flack here when you're only new to the committee, where are senior committee members, they are not answering the thread.

Can I ask when was blyton booked for national day and was it the commitee who decided or did it go to members to vote as I can't remember voting and when was it announced that there was not going to be pod day

Cheers
Phil

I am pretty sure its been mentioned before that as it is there is no plans for RTOC to host an exclusive event at POD... if not then I apoligise on behalf of the committee...


HOWEVER.... the event organisers are now aware that there is an interest in returning to POD, I hope that they are looking into ways of getting an RTOC event there... most likely to be on the back of a show, or RWYB/Test and tune day... ie with very little up front cost for RTOC... as we cant make a loss like we did last year (which hopefully lessons have been made from last years event - IE: not so close to ND & to be pushed more via RTOC, Facebook and Twitter etc)

Explain how we made a loss at pod.
We bought let's say 30 tickets. Sold about 5 to members and the rest were sold on the gate at full value. That's what Chris said to me on the day as I was stunned we got our money back.

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Can I ask when was blyton booked for national day and was it the commitee who decided or did it go to members to vote as I can't remember voting and when was it announced that there was not going to be pod day

Cheers
Phil

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Blyton was booked back in September.....

The club do not vote for every idea such as Venues/Dates for ND, The club voted to have a Committee, The Committee is there to act on behalf of the club & its members.

I have rang santa pod today the girl in office is getting her boss to ring me monday so just to see what our options are get them emailed to me then i will post up on here

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Explain how we made a loss at pod.
We bought let's say 30 tickets. Sold about 5 to members and the rest were sold on the gate at full value. That's what Chris said to me on the day as I was stunned we got our money back.

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Dont quote me on this (You will as Its on the boards haha), but I think we did make a loss, how much I dont honestly know, I am not sure if Chris Miller has let Ian S know exactly how much we took in or even if the money has been put in our accounts - Ian S will know that.

Chris Miller posted this...

7 were sold through the shop @ £60 each
2 we sold in person by Clee @ £60 each
4 entry tickets were sold on the day for £10 each
The rest (31) was sold on the day by Glen and his good lady


I am counting the money now and will pay it in this week.

So a total loss of around £680 Much better than any other year of about £2500.


Ok so not a huge loss... BUT we only sold 9 tickets to RTOC members... 9 out for 40 tickets we brought....

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To be honest bud that's one year out of how many, one bad year and suddenly it's all doom and gloom frog of the pod day finished. The two previous years were on a Friday and we had a fair few turn up. What about if we could arrange a day at the pod like the old mag features rtoc v cliosport etc? There has to be members on here that are on more than one forum.

S**t just saw Marky marks post.

How about have 2 events (money/interest permitting)

One at the beginning of summer some and one in the autumn as a closing of the events season maybe?

That way there is enough space between the two, and people have enough time to get permission from the powers that be indoors.

Get people who would be interested in sponsoring the day/ have stands there (I.e gt turbo spares, cgb, euro car parts etc etc) charge them a fee and that would probably pay for the day so the club at worst would break even.

Sponsoring is great and is a tax relief to companies too. I'll donate some money to the club through my business for an event. Who ever sorts this- PM me.

Pod day will be around 6 grand or more. Gt turbo spares will probably make a few hundred quid in spares then subtract his fuel and time costs. Cgb will be roughly the same.
Charge them anything and expect them not to arrive let alone hitting them for thousands.

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How about have 2 events (money/interest permitting)

One at the beginning of summer some and one in the autumn as a closing of the events season maybe?

That way there is enough space between the two, and people have enough time to get permission from the powers that be indoors.

Get people who would be interested in sponsoring the day/ have stands there (I.e gt turbo spares, cgb, euro car parts etc etc) charge them a fee and that would probably pay for the day so the club at worst would break even.

Sponsoring is great and is a tax relief to companies too. I'll donate some money to the club through my business for an event. Who ever sorts this- PM me.

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You can't charge mike to turn up, fair idea... But this mans saved many a member and a charge would be a tad insulting in my eyes. Remember he is a member to.

Time will cost nothing if you're going to be there anyway fella- same for the fuel.

And does it have to be Santa pod? I'm sure there are cheaper avenues to go down.

Advertising wise- I wouldn't expect to claw 100% of the money invested from one day at an event. No company would. I'd comfortably get sponsorship from a couple of businesses for rtoc.

Anyway- even if sponsorship only paid a percentage of the amount, its better than what the club had prior to it.

It's a nice idea but who will sponsor it. What's in it for them?
Also time does cost money. Mikes spares don't sort themselves from his various locations and climb into his trailer on their own and back out at pod, then back in at home time and then back out to be restocked.
Fuelling a juicy transit and a trailer is a hell of a lot more than a diesel car.
Don't take these people and their time for granted.

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You can't charge mike to turn up, fair idea... But this mans saved many a member and a charge would be a tad insulting in my eyes. Remember he is a member to.

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Sponsoring is a tax relief mate- so it wouldn't cost him anything cos he'd get it deducted in his tax year.

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It's a nice idea but who will sponsor it. What's in it for them?

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I'd sponsor some money- and ask for a ad on the site on the banner for an amount of time with my company website on it etc.

Im sure other companies would do the same too. I don't have a list of companies lined up, this was a suggestion to whoever does this on the committee.

Although I know a company who would sponsor too. So that's 2 for a start.

im sure there have to be other car clubs having the same discussion about pod i think we need to find one and split the difference:confused:

Fantastic and well done :)
Let us know when you get it sorted.

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Originally Posted by soapymech

im sure there have to be other car clubs having the same discussion about pod i think we need to find one and split the difference:confused:

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Thats a good idea and someone mentioned about a club shootout like they used to do it would half the cost

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Originally Posted by car.crash

It's a nice idea but who will sponsor it. What's in it for them?
Also time does cost money. Mikes spares don't sort themselves from his various locations and climb into his trailer on their own and back out at pod, then back in at home time and then back out to be restocked.
Fuelling a juicy transit and a trailer is a hell of a lot more than a diesel car.
Don't take these people and their time for granted.

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I'm not suggesting Mike or Bob fill up a van full of spares,nor am I taking mike or their time for granted. I simply wrote a list of businesses that may be intersted in sponsoring the club. Sponsoring an event can be from having your business name on the advert, to having banners up there.

Bit negative if u ask me mate.

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Originally Posted by chris

Thats a good idea and someone mentioned about a club shootout like they used to do it would half the cost

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id say if finance is the problem because of the lack of member numbers then this is something we have to consider. there must be other clubs of a similar size with the same problem?

The last Pod day I want to was probably ND 2004. We had arranged a good few traders, Ktec and CTM being two with good stands.

But now they won't bother with only 50 people turning up. They won't sell enough / anything.

The reason the Committee didn't book Pod this year or last year on the Friday is because there was no one to do it. The people who did it in previous years are not active now and were not replaced.

There was something like a £2500 loss each year.

And it's a big risk and the small number who do go, tend to not buy until the last minute in case it's raining and they don't go. We always worried about that but always got lucky with the weather. We might have lost another £3000 or so if it had been wet. We never had event insurance to cover that. I don't know if we could get that anyway.

I think we'd need to charge more than before, and sell more tickets.

The Blyton day lost about £5000 it looks like. If we booked and lost the normal at Friday Pod that would come from club savings, not income. If Blyton goes tit's up this year with hardly any tickets sold then...do I need to say it again?

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Originally Posted by soapymech

im sure there have to be other car clubs having the same discussion about pod i think we need to find one and split the difference:confused:

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I think this was done a few years ago when RTOC combined with the VW G40 (old supercharged Polo's) club, or whatever, for a shoot-out possibly at the Shakespeare strip.

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Originally Posted by Ian S

I think this was done a few years ago when RTOC combined with the VW G40 (old supercharged Polo's) club, or whatever, for a shoot-out possibly at the Shakespeare strip.

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think this might be a job for facebook ian?

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Originally Posted by car.crash

Explain how we made a loss at pod.

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IIRC, and I may not in this case, we paid £60 and they were sold at £30.

https://www.rtoc.org/files/?path=Club...s/Santa%20Pod/

Had it not been for those who had the brass to shift them, there would have been more like £1600 lost.

Just was well we only booked 40 tickets. Normally about 50 people but we erred on the side of caution.

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Originally Posted by soapymech

think this might be a job for facebook ian?

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Errrm. I don't use Facebook. Can't make sense of it. Luckily other p[people here can :)

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Originally Posted by Penfold aka The Dealer

Blyton was booked back in September.....

The club do not vote for every idea such as Venues/Dates for ND, The club voted to have a Committee, The Committee is there to act on behalf of the club & its members.

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So if that's the case why is it not down to members to have an opinion on weather pod is to happen or not as it seems that there is never an opinion on track days and they are booked every year and I presume that track days never make a loss is that correct

Track days loose around 5k from what I read.
Pod last year looks to have lost £600 of Ian is correct that the tickets were sold for £10 less than we paid.

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Originally Posted by philr5t

it seems that there is never an opinion on track days

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There was thread on it with plenty of posts before the 2013 day at Blyton was booked.

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Originally Posted by car.crash

Track days loose around 5k from what I read

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Only last year's ND @ Blyton, not all previous track-based ND's.

In fact, iirc, the last one at Mallory we made a profit, and broke even the year before that.

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Originally Posted by Mart

Only last year's ND @ Blyton, not all previous track-based ND's.

In fact, iirc, the last one at Mallory we made a profit, and broke even the year before that.

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Did we pay much more for blyton or did the rolling road cost a lot more than I would predict?
Numbers seemed high at blyton or at least close to Mallory. Just trying to see how we lost 5k compared to Mallorys profit.

I'm happy to hit a track day but it seems a shame to loose pod unless we have to.

I might be wrong, but I believe Blyton was cheaper to 'hire' than Mallory.

If so, I guess it's a case of numbers were down last year?

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Originally Posted by Ian S

There was thread on it with plenty of posts before the 2013 day at Blyton was booked.

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So Ian who's decision was it to book blyton and not pod as if your going by previous figures would you not rather loose £600 at pod rather than 5k a blyton at the moment this to me seems very one sided in the way pod makes a loss so best thing to do is wash your hands with it and the paying members who enjoy it but on the other hand blyton makes a 5 grand loss but I know will book it again this year I am quite p***ed off actually as being a paying member like everyone else I look forward to pod every year as that's what I enjoy most and seeing all the great people I have made mates with over the last 10 years but I don't do track days and get quite bored there but I will still go to them to support the club and meet up with all the lads.
Don't you think it would have been nice for members to choose where we have national day 2013 rather than the committee if we could only afford one main event ?

Phil

Does it have to be at pod?? How about Avon park?? I've been to club event here, it's probably cheaper than pod too... Only real downside is there a bit slow a clear ups n the track isn't quite as gd...

I was one of the few who actually bought a ticket for last years pod day and it was a pian in the arse queing due to the shared day, but still had fun...

Also maybe more should be done for the pod days.. I've never seen a rolling road at one (unlike blyton). Also one year I brought a couple of drag mates with me to do some demo runs, only to be told on the day they had to buy tickets to go on track (and yes I did arrange it before).

How about a vs match with a few other 80/90's cars to boost numbers? With some prizes? (Certainly something u can't do at a track event ;) )

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Did we pay much more for blyton or did the rolling road cost a lot more than I would predict?

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https://www.rtoc.org/files/?path=Club...Meeting%20day/

It's all here Marc.

Well the takings aren't as I only just got that data and haven't uploaded the latest doc yet. But you can see the costs.

Yes there was no money taken on the day for the RR.
The commemorative plates were an expense that seemed a nice thing to do and would have been OK if people had attended in sufficient numbers.
There was no money taken for the track instructors.

I don't know if there was in the past a fee to enter the show and shine, given that there wer prizes given but these may have been donated.

£1140 for a mobile RR unit to be present?! Fecking hell, I'm in the wrong game...

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Originally Posted by philr5t

So Ian who's decision was it to book blyton and not pod as if your going by previous figures would you not rather loose £600 at pod rather than 5k a blyton

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Last year's 'pod day' wasn't really an rtoc event, and it certainly didn't feel like one. It was a massive VW event that a few of us 'gatecrashed'. It would have cost the club more than £600 had it been an exclusive day. How much have previous pod days cost the club? As has been said, Santa Pod will not let us hire the place at a weekend. Surely you can't have the club's number one event of the year on a week day? Therefore the only way of having a weekend pod National Day would be to tag onto something else, last last year's fail!

I'd much rather have an exclusive day somewhere, with that exclusive feel about it, or at least an event where we're not totally outnumbered! Whether that be at McDonald's car park, a field in the middle of no where, or anywhere else.....

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I've never seen a rolling road at one (unlike blyton).

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There was a thor dyno at the 2004 Santa Pod National day.

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So Ian who's decision

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It was the members decision who talked it over in the thread opened to discuss ND2013.

Previous Friday Pod days were losing money in a big way. And that's with no extra frills losing even more money.

ND organisation / planning / ticket selling is, and has been, nothing to do with me. It's all down to the ND organiser, Big Steve now, before that, Miller. Although Dawn co-organised the 2012 day and Dawn and CLee organised the 2011 day, as best as I can recall.

I just pay the bills and attempt to keep records when people can find it within themselves to send me the details.

The committee have talked over aspects of ND, mainly where it come to spending / losing money.

I'm finding it hard to understand why there is even a discussion about Pod at the weekend when RTOC has not that since 2005. People are going on like weekend Pod happens every year. Friday Pod lost a bundle and would have lost a shed load more if it had rained. If you're all so mad keen then why don't you all buy your tickets months before and don't complain if it rains, and make sure the event sells out.

And people seem oblivious at the finances.

Please people, get with it.

How may times must it be said, and in how many threads, before it hits home. The membership numbers are a lot smaller and so the income is a lot smaller.

The events have to sell out or the club will soon run out of savings.

If it's not too late to have a Pod day on a Friday this year:

• we need to have a good idea how many will pay, even if it rains.
• Or buy event cancellation insurance if that's possible and affordable.
• See if other clubs want to join in and split the cost, or the people in this thread will have to pay £200(?) each to have their own day for them selves. Even if it rains. And Pay in advance and have no refunds.

Is that OK with you all :) I'm not organising it by the way, just helping out here with the discussion :)

Other tracks in the past have not been popular as a ND venue with RTOCers due to members wanting to put down competitive times, even if only competing with their own previous times.

So how much are we going to charge for blyton this year £600 per ticket?

Well if 70 people go and the costs are £11000.

To break event it's £157 each. :)

Or if 150 people by a track ticket then it's £73. But can 150 fit onto the track? Will 150 buy a track ticket?

Wasn't it about £95 for non members for the one that did bread even, 2010? A lot of non members went to that. Don't know the numbers.

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Originally Posted by philr5t

So Ian who's decision was it to book blyton and not pod as if your going by previous figures would you not rather loose £600 at pod rather than 5k a blyton at the moment this to me seems very one sided in the way pod makes a loss so best thing to do is wash your hands with it and the paying members who enjoy it but on the other hand blyton makes a 5 grand loss but I know will book it again this year I am quite p***ed off actually as being a paying member like everyone else I look forward to pod every year as that's what I enjoy most and seeing all the great people I have made mates with over the last 10 years but I don't do track days and get quite bored there but I will still go to them to support the club and meet up with all the lads.
Don't you think it would have been nice for members to choose where we have national day 2013 rather than the committee if we could only afford one main event ?

Phil

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Did you miss this thread Phil? :scratch:

https://www.rtoc.org/boards/showthrea...901#post289901

I hereby tender my resignation from the committee to let some of the other members give something back to the club. :)

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who's decision was it to book blyton

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Thread from Sep 2012 re: ND 2013: https://www.rtoc.org/boards/showthread.php?t=29829

Don't dig out Phil to much guys.

Phil asked the question :)

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Originally Posted by The new Bill J

I'd much rather have an exclusive day somewhere, with that exclusive feel about it, or at least an event where we're not totally outnumbered! Whether that be at McDonald's car park, a field in the middle of no where, or anywhere else.....



There was a thor dyno at the 2004 Santa Pod National day.

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my 1st meet was up a car park that was up at derby in 2005 i think it was,it was at at the KFC car park wasnt a bad meet :agree:got lost a few times finding it :laugh:think....a few meets like that arnt bad esp to meet new people like i did,there was about 10/15cars there.

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Originally Posted by Big Steve - Raider

Did you miss this thread Phil? :scratch:

https://www.rtoc.org/boards/showthrea...901#post289901

I hereby tender my resignation from the committee to let some of the other members give something back to the club. :)

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If your resignation decision is made on me asking why pod has never been spoke about not being held this year then you are a very sad person mate and in regards to the thread you copied me in on I'm sure the title stated WHEN did everyone want nd to be on i didn't see it mentioned blyton or pod I understand 99.9% of the commitee would rather hold a national weekend at a track and I couldn't agree more but what my point is have some consideration for the other half of the members who like pod and at least inform them there was no intention of booking it this year am I really that much of a bad person cause if so please tell me

From little acorns big oak trees grow.

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Originally Posted by Big Steve - Raider

Did you miss this thread Phil? :scratch:

https://www.rtoc.org/boards/showthrea...901#post289901

I hereby tender my resignation from the committee to let some of the other members give something back to the club. :)

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Come on Steve.. You and dawn done a great job at making last years nd a wicked weekend! Don't take it so personal buddy, we're just having a discussion :)

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Originally Posted by Dave Reed

Come on Steve.. You and dawn done a great job at making last years nd a wicked weekend! Don't take it so personal buddy, we're just having a discussion :)

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I could not agree more with dave I have a lot of respect for yourself and the rest of the commitee Steve and if I wanted to have a pop I would not choose to do it on here but all I asked is when was we going to be told there was no pod day I didn't once indicate anything direct to yourself mate if you look at my posts :)

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Originally Posted by philr5t

If your resignation decision is made on me asking why pod has never been spoke about not being held this year then you are a very sad person mate and in regards to the thread you copied me in on I'm sure the title stated WHEN did everyone want nd to be on i didn't see it mentioned blyton or pod I understand 99.9% of the commitee would rather hold a national weekend at a track and I couldn't agree more but what my point is have some consideration for the other half of the members who like pod and at least inform them there was no intention of booking it this year am I really that much of a bad person cause if so please tell me

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Phil he has thought about it for ages it's not your comment

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Originally Posted by Mart

I might be wrong, but I believe Blyton was cheaper to 'hire' than Mallory.

If so, I guess it's a case of numbers were down last year?

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All correct. Blyton is a lot less.

Mallory 2011 lost £3800 but had more people buy in advance and no frills, no RR, disco, plates. Some trophies were bought and so was some sine-age and printed materials.

It was 2010 that about broke even with a lot more non members paying the significantly higher non member price. But a few people later complained about the busier track full of non Renaults.

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Originally Posted by Mart

£1140 for a mobile RR unit to be present?! Fecking hell, I'm in the wrong game...

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You wouldn't say that after spending 40k on one m8 ;) :cartman:

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Originally Posted by philr5t

I could not agree more with dave I have a lot of respect for yourself and the rest of the commitee Steve and if I wanted to have a pop I would not choose to do it on here but all I asked is when was we going to be told there was no pod day I didn't once indicate anything direct to yourself mate if you look at my posts :)

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I will be honest i just assumed we would be joining in on another day again but try and be abit more organised and the pod days to ourselves where before my time. Obviously now i can see thats not what people want but does anyone see a way round this problem without falling out and try and work together:)

Damned if you do, damned if you don't, in this club sometimes.

We didn't have a Pod day as such last year, so why does the Committee have to inform us/anyone that there won't be one this year?

If there isn't a thread about it, or nothing listed in the Events section, then surely common sense tells you the club won't be hosting one (this year).

If people are that worried about missing out on Pod, why doesn't someone organise an rtoc get-together at one of this year's many rwyb days? (like we used to have regularly years back).

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You wouldn't say that after spending 40k on one m8 ;) :cartman:

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Serious dollar :eek:

A year or so ago.

Personally I wanted to carry on with Friday Pod days because I knew it was popular with a core of the club.

No one wanted to organise it and anyway the losses had become too high.

The committee had a vote on it, a poll IIRC, and about four people at the time wanted a Pod day, AS WELL as track, and the others no, just track.

Then I phoned Miller and he had what seemed like a solution, to see if we could book 40 out of the 100 limit on a test and tune day. They don't have limited runs do they? That's the whole point of it being limited to 100 runners.

So, no risk to the club if it rains. Minimal losses. No need to organise anything (so we thought!)

There was a Sunday one in September. Pod said Yes to 40 tickets.

All seemed good.

But Pod made a mess. The didn't reserve the 40 places, apparently they thought we wouldn't turn up, or something, and didn't want to lose money. Which wasn't far off!

No mention of the VW day.

And so we expected the people who are so vocal in this thread and other previous thread would be happy and go there. Apart from 9, they didn't.

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Originally Posted by Mart

If people are that worried about missing out on Pod, why doesn't someone organise an rtoc get-together at one of this year's many rwyb days? (like we used to have regularly years back).

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Central command, in the form of Rach, used to make that happen. A lot of people think it happens on it's own.

Run what ya brung's are a bit crap these days aren't they? With endless queues and crap track and not getting many runs in?

But maybe now this year with some new keen committee members those events will happen again. :)

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Originally Posted by Mart

If people are that worried about missing out on Pod, why doesn't someone organise an rtoc get-together at one of this year's many rwyb days? (like we used to have regularly years back).

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Perhaps that's what will happen.. But the same could be said for all events??? If you want to go you go, least that way the club will never lose on an event.. We also may as well drop the joining fee and have no committee just someone to run the web site?

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Originally Posted by Ian S

Central command, in the form of Rach, used to make that happen. A lot of people think it happens on it's own.

Maybe now this year with some new keen committee members those things will happen again. :)

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:agree:

Ps, I organised a few as well ;)

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Originally Posted by Dave Reed

drop the joining fee

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No fee, no website. It's not for free. And do you mean pay someone to run it? We don't really have anyone to run it now. I do my best to keep it ticking over, as do a few others. Scoff helps when he can, especially when it's gone critical and a meltdown is about to happen that no-one else can prevent.

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Originally Posted by Mart

Ps, I organised a few as well ;)

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Well done to you :) Why did you stop?

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Originally Posted by Dave Reed

Perhaps that's what will happen.. But the same could be said for all events??? If you want to go you go, least that way the club will never lose on an event.. We also may as well drop the joining fee and have no committee just someone to run the web site?

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:agree: took the words right out of my mouth

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Originally Posted by Ian S

Well done to you :) Why did you stop?

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:agree: :)

I still dont think it would be too bad if we joined forces with another small car club for the pod day, rwyb days are ok but sitting in the fire up road for hours on end is not fun.

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Originally Posted by Dave Reed

Perhaps that's what will happen.. But the same could be said for all events??? If you want to go you go, least that way the club will never lose on an event.. We also may as well drop the joining fee and have no committee just someone to run the web site?

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The difference being, it doesn't cost anything to latch onto one of the rwyb days, apart from the normal entry/running fee.

To hire the place exclusively will cost loads, in the same way Blyton does, except, as has been repeatedly said, the coffers aren't money-laden enough to cover the costs of 2 such events in a year.

If Blyton/ND is a done deal, which it is, then there won't be an exclusive rtoc-only day at Pod this year. End of. Hence saying that if people want an event/meet-up there, then simply organise a get-together on the back of one the rwyb events.

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Originally Posted by Ian S

No fee, no website. It's not for free. And do you mean pay someone to run it? We don't really have anyone to run it now. I do my best to keep it ticking over, as do a few others. Scoff helps when he can, especially when it's gone critical and a meltdown is about to happen that no-one else can prevent.

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That's why I said someone to run the web site as I know it's not free.. And when I said drop the joining fee I meant to a fiver or similar.. Besides it was a bombastic response to the previous answer, not a must do or solution ;)

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Well done to you :) Why did you stop?

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Ha, I wasn't after recognition! :D It stopped because people, in the majority, got bored of going to Pod, trackdays were the new kid on the block, hence my attention turned to them.

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:agree: took the words right out of my mouth

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drop the joining fee and how does the club generate income do you realise no one gets payed on the commitee? does the website run its self or should you pay someone to run it but you have dropped the joining fee what will you pay them with. come on lads your just being ridiculous at end of the day it should of probably been posted up "THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE MAIN EVENT THIS YEAR WHAT DO YOU WANT IT TO BE" but it wasn't and here we are lets get over it and move on

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The difference being, it doesn't cost anything to latch onto one of the rwyb days, apart from the normal entry/running fee.

To hire the place exclusively will cost loads, in the same way Blyton does, except, as has been repeatedly said, the coffers aren't money-laden enough to cover the costs of 2 such events in a year.

If Blyton/ND is a done deal, which it is, then there won't be an exclusive rtoc-only day at Pod this year. End of. Hence saying that if people want an event/meet-up there, then simply organise a get-together on the back of one the rwyb events.

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My point exactly, it also doesn't cost anything to latch onto someone else's track day either....... And so your point is what?

I also fully understand that Blyton is a done deal, I haven't said otherwise :D

if the poll was still running for frog of pod how manys votes would it have now before the committe took it down:rolleyes:

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drop the joining fee and how does the club generate income do you realise no one gets payed on the commitee? does the website run its self or should you pay someone to run it but you have dropped the joining fee what will you pay them with. come on lads your just being ridiculous at end of the day it should of probably been posted up "THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE MAIN EVENT THIS YEAR WHAT DO YOU WANT IT TO BE" but it wasn't and here we are lets get over it and move on

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Chris it was a tongue in cheek remake I made... We all know nothing can be done about it at this stage... (At least we know for next year)

The fact of the matter is that most of the people on here either like track days or oe. I myself like any kind of motor sport, however I build my cars to be a quick as I can afford, unfortunately that often means they wouldn't last a track day lol..

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Originally Posted by turbo ted

if the poll was still running for frog of pod how manys votes would it have now before the committe took it down:rolleyes:

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I think you and i both know it would be winning :) but can you think of any possible way we can sort this mate?

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Chris it was a tongue in cheek remake I made... We all know nothing can be done about it at this stage... (At least we know for next year)

The fact of the matter is that most of the people on here either like track days or oe. I myself like any kind of motor sport, however I build my cars to be a quick as I can afford, unfortunately that often means they wouldn't last a track day lol..

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i see its very difficult to gauge when its in text form.. so what can we do dave to try and patch things up for everyone

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And so your point is what?

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Touché.

I'm well aware the same can be said for latching onto trackdays. I'm offering a solution as to how to have an rtoc event as such at Pod, that doesn't cost (the club) extra, albeit it won't be as exclusive as some would like.

Members have been spoilt with two heavily subsidised events over the years.

We seem to be arguing about a non issue.

As has been said we can't have a weekend slot at POD anymore, we lost it when we stopped going in 2005.

Look at the numbers, only 9 tickets sold to members at last years tag on event.

We are only a small club, we can't do everything, if we don't make a return on the main event then ND will end up being every two years!

Another thread, started for all the right reasons with the best intentions, explodes in our faces. And people wonder why no one puts themselves out for the club anymore.... :disagree:

I will gladly make phone calls on Monday to try and help organise a day at pod different to last years meet and I also remember dave reed mentioning a few pages ago a day at north Weald did anyone from the commitee look into it at all what the costs would be as I will happily ring them to on Monday

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if the poll was still running for frog of pod how manys votes would it have now before the committe took it down:rolleyes:

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It's irrelevant unless at least 70 people buy a track ticket.

70 at £70 = £4900.

Will they?

If someone can make them then we might be able do it if Pod agree. But no-one can make sure that many tickets sell. Seems we last lost about £2500 to please only 50 people.

At the track day more was lost but more people were pleased especially as we paid for their RR as well.

If only 50 people buy tickets to this years Blyton day then the RTOC will lose a lot more than if only 50 tickets sell at the Pod. I guess that's worth thinking about.

Unless it rains at the Pod and we make a near total loss. People still lap in the wet.

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I will gladly make phone calls on Monday to try and help organise a day at pod different to last years meet and I also remember dave reed mentioning a few pages ago a day at north Weald did anyone from the commitee look into it at all what the costs would be as I will happily ring them to on Monday

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Good on ya, Phil :agree:

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I will gladly make phone calls on Monday to try and help organise a day at pod different to last years meet and I also remember dave reed mentioning a few pages ago a day at north Weald did anyone from the commitee look into it at all what the costs would be as I will happily ring them to on Monday

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yes mate i spoke to pod today and the north weald i was going to do we have a show we are sorting at pod aswell the retro show people seemed pleased.

If the club has a stand at the North Weald thing then I can bring the whole of the Ilford membership with me. :) (That's only me though :( And I have a Fiat and it doesn't even have a turbo. Halcyon days with 5 or 6 5GTT's meeting outside my house are in a bygone era :( )

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i see its very difficult to gauge when its in text form.. so what can we do dave to try and patch things up for everyone

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I don't think you need to do anything Chris, you and your fellow helpers have done what you all thought was best and what brings in more numbers etc (or whatever the reasons).. And quite frankly it's tough lol... We're all grown men/women.. I think people are just expressing that they feel they've been a little cheated (possibly) but no one runs something at a loss, as it won't last forever..

Perhaps as has been said alternate it each year, I don't personally think numbers would ever be that great with 2 major events every year (in the current financial climate anyway).

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Touché.

I'm well aware the same can be said for latching onto trackdays. I'm offering a solution as to how to have an rtoc event as such at Pod, that doesn't cost (the club) extra, albeit it won't be as exclusive as some would like.

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Haha no touché here fella.... Just pointing out your pointless remark that you can't justify ;) :cooter:

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If the club has a stand at the North Weald thing then I can bring the whole of the Ilford membership with me. :) (That's only me though :( And I have a Fiat and it doesn't even have a turbo. Halcyon days with 5 or 6 5GTT's meeting outside my house are in a bygone era :( )

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So my post about north Weald wasn't invisible after all haha (that's a joke btw)..

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It's irrelevant unless at least 70 people buy a track ticket.

70 at £70 = £4900.

Will they?

If someone can make them then we might be able do it if Pod agree. But no-one can make sure that many tickets sell. Seems we last lost about £2500 to please only 50 people.

At the track day more was lost but more people were pleased especially as we paid for their RR as well.

If only 50 people buy tickets to this years Blyton day then the RTOC will lose a lot more than if only 50 tickets sell at the Pod. I guess that's worth thinking about.

Unless it rains at the Pod and we make a near total loss. People still lap in the wet.

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I can see where your coming from Ian but a couple of things I'm not to shaw on is when we talk about the pod weekend is to expensive are you meaning booking Santa pod for the whole weekend or do you mean just for the exclusive track use on the Friday day then the camping Friday night and another thing for next year is there a suitable track out there apart from blyton at a lower cost that the track boys will enjoy to help put the Friday pod day back on for next year rather than spending a small fortune but at the same time being able to fit both events in at different times of the year if that makes sense :)

Anyway onwards n upwards....

Is there no events that we can hire where they have a time attack and drag racing??? Best of both worlds IMO (o and not this year, obviously).

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I can see where your coming from Ian but a couple of things I'm not to shaw on is when we talk about the pod weekend is to expensive are you meaning booking Santa pod for the whole weekend or do you mean just for the exclusive track use on the Friday day then the camping Friday night and another thing for next year is there a suitable track out there apart from blyton at a lower cost that the track boys will enjoy to help put the Friday pod day back on for next year rather than spending a small fortune but at the same time being able to fit both events in at different times of the year if that makes sense :)

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Phil, I think we'd be better of picking a test n tune day, put the info up and whoever goes, goes?

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Anyway onwards n upwards....

Is there no events that we can hire where they have a time attack and drag racing??? Best of both worlds IMO (o and not this year, obviously).

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if only that would solve everything:laugh: was it trax that used to have a trackday and a 0-60 test not a 1/4 mile i know but getting closer:laugh:

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Haha no touché here fella.... Just pointing out your pointless remark that you can't justify ;) :cooter:

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Which pointless remark was that?

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Which pointless remark was that?

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If people are that worried about missing out on Pod, why doesn't someone organise an rtoc get-together at one of this year's many rwyb days? (like we used to have regularly years back).


:rolleyes:

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if only that would solve everything:laugh: was it trax that used to have a trackday and a 0-60 test not a 1/4 mile i know but getting closer:laugh:

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It's a shame as it would make for an awesome event I reckon.. Haha a bit closer...

Valid comment, no?

Some of those old rwyb events/meet-ups yielded a great turn-out for the club, with tuners (Ktec, BB, EP) involved too.

Would be great to have those type of meets there again, but if it's now deemed pointless, then fair enough.

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Valid comment, no?

Some of those old rwyb events/meet-ups yielded a great turn-out for the club, with tuners (Ktec, BB, EP) involved too.

Would be great to have those type of meets there again, but if it's now deemed pointless, then fair enough.

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I don't want this to turn into a keyboard warrior match, it's not constructive, so we'll leave it at that I think..

You what? :confused: :laugh:

I'm turning it into nothing, and I'm not sure why/how you think this is an argument or a dig at anyone, unless you've misread my previous posts?

It was a genuine thought/idea regarding a meet-up at a rwyb event at Pod, hence why I didn't understand your pointless remark comment.

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when we talk about the pod is to expensive .....blyton at a lower cost that the track boys will enjoy to help put the Friday pod day

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Just talking about Friday at the Pod.

We already asked Blyton if they had a 1/4 mile when we first looked at it. Not that they can use at the same time, perhaps day, as lapping. So no then.

Blyton would appear to be the lowest cost for somewhere near the Midlands anyway.

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Phil, I think we'd be better of picking a test n tune day, put the info up and whoever goes, goes?

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That doesn't promote the club at all. We need a club presence at events to show other people the club exists.

We need organised and well and repeatedly advertised and talked about events to get more than a couple of people anywhere at the same time.

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You what? :confused: :laugh:

I'm turning it into nothing, and I'm not sure why/how you think this is an argument or a dig at anyone, unless you've misread my previous posts?

It was a genuine thought/idea regarding a meet-up at a rwyb event at Pod, hence why I didn't understand your pointless remark comment.

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That's fine then, perhaps I misread your post as to me it sounded like you were saying you'll have to sort one yourself, which isn't really part of the club??

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That doesn't promote the club at all. We need a club presence at events to show other people the club exists.

We need organised and well and repeatedly advertised and talked about events to get more than a couple of people anywhere at the same time.

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So there is going to be a rtoc organised pod day then :confused:

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That's fine then, perhaps I misread your post as to me it sounded like you were saying you'll have to sort one yourself, which isn't really part of the club??

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You obviously did - 'Yourself' was meant in the generic term. You'll also note I said elsewhere 'why doesn't someone organise...', be it that someone be anyone from the Committee, the Events guys, or any rtoc members.

Whoever organises it, means zilch really - It'll still be a club event; just one that might or might not be funded from the coffers.

I'm so glad I've wasted christ knows how many minutes typing all these posts, trying to explain the fecking obvious... :rolleyes: :dearme:

I'm saying nothing ;)

Some people are either deaf or just hard of thinking .
There is not enough support of any of these events to sustain them .If members don't buy the tickets that surely says something .
All very well saying ' if we build it they will come ' but the stark reality is they don't .
I would suggest a non refundable deposit for any future BIG events payable a good 6 months in advance :coffee:
Then perhaps all the ' me mums friends cats had a funny turn and fallen of her lap so I can't come ,gutted ' type stuff can be avoided :p

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I'm saying nothing ;)

Some people are either deaf or just hard of thinking .
There is not enough support of any of these events to sustain them .If members don't buy the tickets that surely says something .
All very well saying ' if we build it they will come ' but the stark reality is they don't .
I would suggest a non refundable deposit for any future BIG events payable a good 6 months in advance :coffee:
Then perhaps all the ' me mums friends cats had a funny turn and fallen of her lap so I can't come ,gutted ' type stuff can be avoided :p

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Fantastic idea. Minimum 50% aswell.

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All very well saying ' if we build it they will come ' but the stark reality is they don't .
I would suggest a non refundable deposit for any future BIG events payable a good 6 months in advance :coffee:
Then perhaps all the ' me mums friends cats had a funny turn and fallen of her lap so I can't come ,gutted ' type stuff can be avoided :p

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You only need to look at the list of names v's turn out for the rr day at scoffs! The RTOC rule of 3 strikes again and that was just £30!

Impossible! :rolleyes:

We can't have a Pod day and a ND as the club doesn't have the funds to take the hit if/when next to no one turns up at Pod.

We had a vote and people were mostly in favour of holding the ND at Blyton again.

Why can't people that want a Pod day organise something locally between them, using the area reps? Perhaps tag along with a test day it something?

Can we alternate ND between Blyton and Pod? Or is Pod too expensive to hire full stop now? The days of having 2 big events a year are gone guys :(

I tell you one thing, if ND this year doesn't do well then we might not have one at all in 2014..... :coffee:

why do drag racers have to tag onto back of another event its all one sided its all track or nothing as far i can see

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why do drag racers have to tag onto back of another event its all one sided its all track or nothing as far i can see

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It does feel it sometimes mate :crap:

From all this it doesn't look like a day at a drag strip is going to happen this year, tagging along to either a show or a rwyb are not the best ideas for people wanting to run and do well, for spectating yes they may be better but for us who want to run the track prep isn't the best and the que's are to long

For me i'll be attending a few test and tune days this year, if anyone wants to tag along with me more than welcome to ;)

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Can we alternate ND between Blyton and Pod? Or is Pod too expensive to hire full stop now? The days of having 2 big events a year are gone guys :(

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For fear of repeating myself again...

WE COULDN'T BOOK POD ON A WEEKEND, EVEN IF WE WANTED TO

so wound members be happy with ND being on a weekday....?

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No fee, no website. It's not for free. And do you mean pay someone to run it? We don't really have anyone to run it now. I do my best to keep it ticking over, as do a few others. Scoff helps when he can, especially when it's gone critical and a meltdown is about to happen that no-one else can prevent.

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So I'm guessing a Facebook page where people can exchange information, buy and sell bits etc is good for a club and its forum:scratch:

I don't think this has anything to do with a day at the drag strip being a Nat Day, this is just a debate about why drag strip events are always forgot about over track days from what I see

They aren't .
We have had a track based Nat day for the past few years ,before that it was all Pod or Brunt ?
What do the Track boys do for the rest of the year ? They tag along to other events .
It does boil down to NAT Day being one or the other because

THE CLUB CAN NO LONGER AFFORD TO DO BOTH AS THERE IS NOT ENOUGH SUPPORT FROM THE MEMBERSHIP

Before anyone jumps on my back I was one of the committee that Ian referred to as wanting a Friday POD day last year but I was in the minority. I loved the POD days but had to concede that the numbers just DON'T stack up....

Look at Malory a few years back, it would of been a disaster if non members hadn't bought tickets - but members complained there were too many non Renos on track.

The test and tune day that miller arranged was on the face of it a low risk option with only 40 tickets purchased - but again the RTOC members only managed 9 tickets.

As Alex says there may not even be a ND14 if we carry on in this vein. Who's going to arrange it? Due to the way the members make demands on the committee there's not going to be any left shortly, Millar, Stu, Dawn, Clee and now Steve.... The new guys are getting a baptism of fire too!

Dave, Phil, Ted - perhaps the way forward is to speak to POD see what your options are, test and tune / rwyb tag along, exclusive day or a.n.other? Then put a thread up gauging interest from the members and put a justification forward to the committee. If it can be justified as a small loss / break even then the club may be able to support you in terms of buying tickets upfront, advertising etc...

Perhaps that's the best way to handle all events in future.

You can't call it one sided when we had a vote! :)

No one said you HAVE to tag along with another event but financially I can't see any other way you could do it these days?

Yes it's been said we can't book Pod over a weekend - I hear that. Is there no movement on this at all? Even if it was ND? Still way too small I guess? We used to have ND there and it always seemed popular.

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You obviously did - 'Yourself' was meant in the generic term. You'll also note I said elsewhere 'why doesn't someone organise...', be it that someone be anyone from the Committee, the Events guys, or any rtoc members.

Whoever organises it, means zilch really - It'll still be a club event; just one that might or might not be funded from the coffers.

I'm so glad I've wasted christ knows how many minutes typing all these posts, trying to explain the fecking obvious... :rolleyes: :dearme:

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Well I am very sorry to have waisted your precious time...

I'm pretty sure I said further up lets not get into a keyboard warrior match?? But still you continue! There was no need to mention about organising one, as to me that's just obvious, no? (That's why I said it was pointless).

And low and behold I said to Phil let's just organise our own and Ian had stepped up and said it'll do nothing to promote the club! (Which btw was my other point abut the pointless post you made)

:dearme:

I'm having no part in this anymore

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Dave, Phil, Ted - perhaps the way forward is to speak to POD see what your options are, test and tune / rwyb tag along, exclusive day or a.n.other? Then put a thread up gauging interest from the members and put a justification forward to the committee. If it can be justified as a small loss / break even then the club may be able to support you in terms of buying tickets upfront, advertising etc...

Perhaps that's the best way to handle all events in future.

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Marky, maybe you could help with the above?

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They aren't .
We have had a track based Nat day for the past few years ,before that it was all Pod or Brunt ?
What do the Track boys do for the rest of the year ? They tag along to other events .
It does boil down to NAT Day being one or the other because

THE CLUB CAN NO LONGER AFFORD TO DO BOTH AS THERE IS NOT ENOUGH SUPPORT FROM THE MEMBERSHIP

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If national day was at a certain place where there was enough space and REAL help/manpower, there surely is the opportunity to have a track layout in the morning and a drag lane in the afternoon? Or am I just on drugs again.....

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I'm having no part in this anymore

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Yep I'm out too....

It's all sorted what's happening now so ill do what I always do and go to my own events, simples.

Depends what type of day it is ,funday or hardcore track/strip .
The whole point regards Pod is it's a full prep track etc and you get loads of runs .
There is a way and we've done it with RAOC with only 10 or so members chipping in ....It probably won't please the ' Professional Racers ' in either camp though but tbh they are in the minority and perhaps a less intimidating event would bring more of the less vocal members in :coffee:

Bruntingthorpe ......We split the day ....Drag, 2 mile top speed runs etc 0-60 in the morning then full track in the afternoon .We have struggled to fill this of late so not happened but .......RAOC have MSA recognition ( something I suggested we apply for ages ago ) and I'm sure Between the two clubs a Bigger better Renault Turbo event could be organised .
I'd be quite happy to try and pull that together for 2014

Nice one clee, I personally don't have a problem with joining up with other renault based clubs if it gauruntees a good event, plus nice to see something other than just renault 5 gtts.

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Yep I'm out too....

It's all sorted what's happening now so ill do what I always do and go to my own events, simples.

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Funny that, the committee get battered from all angles every year about these events, after spending large amounts of their own time to organise, and are just expected to take it without getting p!ssed off.

You guys get a constructive response to your questions and because its not what you want to hear you throw your toys out the pram.

Grow up FFS :disagree:

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Well I am very sorry to have waisted your precious time...

I'm pretty sure I said further up lets not get into a keyboard warrior match?? But still you continue! There was no need to mention about organising one, as to me that's just obvious, no? (That's why I said it was pointless).

And low and behold I said to Phil let's just organise our own and Ian had stepped up and said it'll do nothing to promote the club! (Which btw was my other point abut the pointless post you made)

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It's a discussion, not a kb warrior match. Have I posted anything argumentative to say otherwise? Maybe calling people's posts 'pointless' when they're simply trying to help might not help matters eh?

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Nice one clee, I personally don't have a problem with joining up with other renault based clubs if it garuntees a good event, plus nice to see something other than just renault 5 gtts.

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It wouldn't be RAOC event ,it's just they have all the legals in place to do it and I'm sure would help and get a wider audience .Renault would also more than likely step up to help .They do for a few RAOC attendances already ,Bromely,La Vie etc
Public liabilty insurance etc + MSA so can record times etc and run the day .We would have to look into marshaling and loads of other logistics .

It's like the Show & Shine bollox all over again. Sad days :dearme:

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It wouldn't be RAOC event ,it's just they have all the legals in place to do it and I'm sure would help and get a wider audience .Renault would also more than likely step up to help .They do for a few RAOC attendances already ,Bromely,La Vie etc
Public liabilty insurance etc + MSA so can record times etc and run the day .We would have to look into marshaling and loads of other logistics .

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Well worth looking into mate, a solution to keep everyone happy would be awesome!

Same **** different thread .Lot of talk but no-one saying anything .Should would could ....
That's the way of forums though .All get together round a table and it'd be sorted out in half a day :coffee:

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Same **** different thread .Lot of talk but no-one saying anything .Should would could ....
That's the way of forums though .All get together round a table and it'd be sorted out in half a day :coffee:

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:agree: Maybe 2014 ND/rtoc events should be the main topic for discussion at this year's AGM? (assuming there is one).

I haven't read all of his thread, but did someone mention going to the dieppe factory at one point?

On a plus side to all this we all most have 40 votes for the other events:laugh:

It seems that several people have had the same idea at the same time.

What we do is treat a FRIDAY POD DAY as a RTOC group buy.

People pay up front in full for, say, £100. If we have enough buyers we can go ahead and book the day at no risk to the club.

In the unlikely occurrence that a lot more tickets sell that is needed to meet the cost, then a partial refund could be done.

No refund if it rains.

Does that sound fair and reasonable and give you all what you want :)



People who will pay maybe £100 for a Friday Pod day enter you names here:
Taken from the above few posts is it correct to assume:
Dave
Mark
Phil
Ted

Nottswoody
GT Josh?
soapymech?
SteveL?

So we need another 42.

CLee, isn't Brunters quite expensive, £16k or something?

Did RAOC book only part of it?

Can't the same idea be exploited for this years Blyton day? Have the RAOC as part of the event, legally it would be an RAOC event, and then people can have timed laps?

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It seems that several people have had the same idea at the same time.

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Nice try, if you mean me 'Matt' I don't do drag racing. I like corners.
In fact there is only one think I dislike more than drag racing, and that's watching it.

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Edited :)

I used to get some fun from the braking and the left turn at the end of the strip.

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CLee, isn't Brunters quite expensive, £16k or something?

Did RAOC book only part of it?

Can't the same idea be exploited for this years Blyton day? Have the RAOC as part of the event, legally it would be an RAOC event, and then people can have timed laps?

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God no !! ...well at least I assume not .

We pretty much had the run of the track/runway apart from the occasional race team out testing bikes/cars .
10 of us paid about 90 quid each for the weekday .
I'll ask Dellboy and sound him out :agree:

i havnt read all of this thread so please dont shoot me down if im repeating someone but if you are trying to combine a track and strip day would it not be easier to hold the event at a track and then have a make shift strip,
i know it wouldnt be ideal espec for the big boys but roughly speaking a long tape measure, starting lights/flags and some timing gear (which i think you can hire) and you would have a basic strip.
Also the fact that it would be a "homemade strip" may incourage some members to have a go instead of lining up at the lights of pod with lots of eyes watching your every shift !

then the track lot will have the track as per norm.

If you were to hold it at pod/shakespehere etc i think the room would be restricted and the makeshift track would basically be a solo/sprint/handling circuit through some cones which may get busy/boring for some :/


may help numbers as you will hopefully have the drag lot and the track lot all coming plus gives everyone a chance to see/partake in both if they wish?

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God no !! ...well at least I assume not.......weekday

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Ah, not a weekend. Here why I thought £16k, that was the total spend at the RTOC Brunters day, Brunters itself was about £12k. But extras were needed: see 2006: https://www.rtoc.org/files/?path=Club...Meeting%20day/

Jesus H feckin Christ !!!
Someone surely got their pants pulled down on that one .It's an airfield circuit :coffee:
No way can that stack up .You only have to look at the Mallory costs to know that :mad:

ouch! thats some expensive tarmac!

the jap clubs (mlr i think) hold an event and then invite the gtr and scooby lot.
could we not do this but invite other turbo'd renault clubs?21,gta's etc? or maybe just other other renaults.
could strike up some friendly club score board or such?also might drum up some club intrest and help split the hire costs?

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ouch! thats some expensive tarmac!

the jap clubs (mlr i think) hold an event and then invite the gtr and scooby lot.
could we not do this but invite other turbo'd renault clubs?21,gta's etc? or maybe just other other renaults.
could strike up some friendly club score board or such?also might drum up some club intrest and help split the hire costs?

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I have said this twice in this thread already but I have Martinitous (invisible post syndrome)

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ouch! thats some expensive tarmac!

the jap clubs (mlr i think) hold an event and then invite the gtr and scooby lot.
could we not do this but invite other turbo'd renault clubs?21,gta's etc? or maybe just other other renaults.
could strike up some friendly club score board or such?also might drum up some club intrest and help split the hire costs?

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MLR actually run a sprint series within the club they don,t invite anyone there are 20 allocated places for scoobynet which they pay for if these aren,t filled MLR fill the places,Mlr also run well organised trackdays with free tuition and a tyre support truck and do a drag strip events one is coming up at RAF Marham imo RTOC events fall short of organised events on MLR just doesn,t seem to get the numbers on Rtoc events

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ouch! thats some expensive tarmac!

the jap clubs (mlr i think) hold an event and then invite the gtr and scooby lot.
could we not do this but invite other turbo'd renault clubs?21,gta's etc? or maybe just other other renaults.
could strike up some friendly club score board or such?also might drum up some club intrest and help split the hire costs?

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It's been tried in the past. The 21toc and the raoc don't want to know :(

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It's been tried in the past. The 21toc and the raoc don't want to know :(

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Do they give you a reason why what about cliosport or other french car clubs ?

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Do they give you a reason why what about cliosport or other french car clubs ?

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As far as I know, they prefer to stay in their own groups/clubs. clee and DaveL485 are the ones to ask though, as they're members of the other clubs.

We did do some 'joint club' track days a few years back with the Peugeot 306 lot. We didn't seem to get on too well, if the threads on both forums afterwards were anything to go by :wasntme:

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As far as I know, they prefer to stay in their own groups/clubs. clee and DaveL485 are the ones to ask though, as they're members of the other clubs.

We did do some 'joint club' track days a few years back with the Peugeot 306 lot. We didn't seem to get on too well, if the threads on both forums afterwards were anything to go by :wasntme:

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Oh lol what about trying new clubs that we havent before someone mentioned haveing 80s/90s theme

TBH looking at this and attending all the National days for the last ten years you will always have minimal numbers,no other clubs are interested you will get a few from cliosport for the cheap track time but attendance is always low either holidays are booked,distance,costs whatever the reasons it will never be everyone turning up thats the way it is always has been IMO :crap:

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It's been tried in the past. The 21toc and the raoc don't want to know :(

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seems a shame :cry: we all have a common interest

i could prob drum up some intrest from the twingo lot but most of them are fans of stickers or detailing as opposed to track time, and we know how show and shines end :crap:

I'm no expert in this as I'm quite a new member to speak of but obviously we can't afford both events, possibly even one of our own. We need to be looking at being involved with other clubs, I think it would be better if there is some variation from just r5's as much as I love them!

Brunters sounds good, I'm a track fan but also like a bit of 1/4 mile. Need to cater for both.

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I'm no expert in this as I'm quite a new member to speak of but obviously we can't afford both events, possibly even one of our own. We need to be looking at being involved with other clubs, I think it would be better if there is some variation from just r5's as much as I love them!

Brunters sounds good, I'm a track fan but also like a bit of 1/4 mile. Need to cater for both.

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Myself and ross are getting us into other shows, hill climb ,track days,drag raceing,static events just to try and mix it up abit it is also excellent advertiseing and hopefully a good laugh

I think a post on the megane forum might be a good call. From what I gather, it's a large club with people who do trackdays and drag events so they might be quite a good group to go with.

Also the buzz word on this thread appears to be 'pod day'.

Does it have to be the pod? I don't personally know but I would assume that Avon park, York raceway and north weald would be cheaper but at the cost of a less central location and less track prep.
What I can say though is that at the 'retro show' at the pod you should easily get 10-15 runs in for your £20. I usually do around ten with plenty of the day to spare (I get on the track as soon as its open)

I'm equally happy blatting down the quarter as I am around a track so it personally makes no odds to me.

I think it's fair to say that there are a few long serving committee members who are thoroughly pissed off at the general response they get for their efforts. It's no easy task organising something like national day and I thought the last one was great. Likewise all the other roles that go unappreciated.

Just my thoughts....

Ross

I would say to that, Retro show it is then :)

Do those vocal few object to that or will it suffice as the RTOC Pod day this year?

Weekend
Plenty of runs
Prep'd track?
own cosy area
camping?
other cars to look at.

no risk to the club finances?
even if it rains?

I seem to recall that the RTOC FRIDAY Pod day preceded the Retro show one time? Some people stayed over and ran on the Saturday and camped on the sat night??

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I would say to that, Retro show it is then :)

Do those vocal few object to that or will it suffice as the RTOC Pod day this year?

Weekend
Plenty of runs
Prep'd track?
own cosy area
camping?
other cars to look at.

no risk to the club finances?
even if it rains?

I seem to recall that the RTOC FRIDAY Pod day preceded the Retro show one time? Some people stayed over and ran on the Saturday and camped on the sat night??

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I'll be attending Retro Show anyway, if cars done would be running either way so all the better if a few others turn up

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I would say to that, Retro show it is then :)

Do those vocal few object to that or will it suffice as the RTOC Pod day this year?

Weekend
Plenty of runs
Prep'd track?
own cosy area
camping?
other cars to look at.

no risk to the club finances?
even if it rains?

I seem to recall that the RTOC FRIDAY Pod day preceded the Retro show one time? Some people stayed over and ran on the Saturday and camped on the sat night??

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When it joined the retro show that year, and there was that v8 ford pop running ohhh dreamy!! Anyway ... That was a real good turn out on the Friday, great night and Saturday was a blast!

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When it joined the retro show that year, and there was that v8 ford pop running ohhh dreamy!! Anyway ... That was a real good turn out on the Friday, great night and Saturday was a blast!

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I havent been to this particuler show before but does look good and lots of diffrent cars to see it will be good camping aswell lets hope its dry:)

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I'll be attending Retro Show anyway, if cars done would be running either way so all the better if a few others turn up

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:agree::agree::agree:
or saturday night special on the 4th may

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I would say to that, Retro show it is then :)

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There's already a list :) https://www.rtoc.org/boards/showthrea...291#post314291

One thing that is fairly obvious is that there will be no exclusive pod hire this year and in all honesty If the club funds are as low as they are I can't see it happening next year either. :(

I think combining a track event with a drag strip isn't the way to go, unless the drag strip is a "proper" surface. When I go to pod I don't race the car next to me, I race the clock and my goal is to improve my terminal speed and hence my time, I can't speak for all the people who go to pod but with any other kind of surface the above just isn't going to happen. It's all about building the car/engine myself and extracting as much power out of it as I can, and the drag strip is the definitive way to test this.

I'm perfectly happy to combine the clubs pod day with the retro show, as long as it's not like last years where It was over an hour in the que between runs, no time to make any changes or do any fettling of any kind. Not to mention the fact you don't actually get to watch anything as your queuing up literally all day.

I was under the impression that last year was going to be fairly quiet being a test and tune day and we were unlucky that the massive vw show ended up being on that weekend and that just packed the place out hence the huge que.

Could we not take funds for say the cost of a test and tune day ticket but not actually purchase any from pod then actually decide what date we go for once pod has most of the shows booked up for the year, then we can try to pick as quiet a weekend as possible and get as much track time as possible with a fully prepd track. That way there is no financial risk to the club and we get a fairly quite track. Last years idea was good in principle it just wasn't the best of timing and organization.

I'm not having a dig at anyone and I think all of the committee and events organizers do a great job considering it's in their own time, and what has happened with regards to more people helping out with events can only be a good thing for the club.

The year we had the Friday before the Retro show was a good day, then we had the camping :scared::wasntme: & the Retro show the next day. If something similar could be arranged for next year maybe ??
Or are we now destined to 'tag on' to other events/test & tune ?

Test and tune days suck arse. Nothing for spectators
Need to have our own event or join onto a proper show. I won't go to test and tune ever again as its boring.

I can see the reasoning behind it, test an tune is a tenner to just watch and something like the retro event gives people much more to look at. If your not running or after a p.b then yes test an tune probably won't appeal.

All I want to know is as a club are we going to call the retro show our visit to pod this year officially?

I have been on the phone this morning to Neil saunders from Santa pod. We definitely cant hire the pod at weekend they don't do it anymore for owners clubs like ourselves. but they will do a week day for us the only condition of it is that you cant have it on a week day thats leading up to a weekend show:crap: What does everyone think to that? i am going to ring north wealed tommorow because according to there web site there not open today can anyone else suggest any other drag racing venues?

I think that the clubs Nat Day has lost it's way in general ....
Those who want a full on track or strip are in the minority and lets be honest if your whole year is geared around one RTOC event then you aren't really hardcore anyway :D

I think day should be more of a social event with
0-60 runs etc on a airfield is as enjoyable for the average member as a fully prepped track and also BIG run off areas for the track novices is a must .Mobile RR is also a good crowd puller .
We have tended to gear it towards the vocal and crazygang people in the club and have perhaps lost sight of the wider membership .:coffee:

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I think that the clubs Nat Day has lost it's way in general ....
Those who want a full on track or strip are in the minority and lets be honest if your whole year is geared around one RTOC event then you aren't really hardcore anyway :D

I think day should be more of a social event with
0-60 runs etc on a airfield is as enjoyable for the average member as a fully prepped track and also BIG run off areas for the track novices is a must .Mobile RR is also a good crowd puller .
We have tended to gear it towards the vocal and crazygang people in the club and have perhaps lost sight of the wider membership .:coffee:

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Very good & valid points Lee.
Not everyone likes to drag their cars or track them, but a few more may do an all in one event as you suggest. Just a fun, action packed RTOC National day. If it was arranged properly it could be a pretty good day/night. Maybe a RR, RWYB track & drag or 0-60 events, sort of tasters if you like. Maybe some stands, show & shine & a raffle/prize giving at the end of the day to get everyone together ?

I thought last years ND had pretty much everything. O.k. it would have been great to have a drag strip as well as the track but how many places do this? (I'm talking a fully prepped strip)

If you didn't want to go on track (understandable) you could go on the RR and/or chat to members and socialise in general.

There was also the hugely successful show and shine....... :laugh:

Personally I can't see what more people would want.

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I thought last years ND had pretty much everything. O.k. it would have been great to have a drag strip as well as the track but how many places do this? (I'm talking a fully prepped strip)

If you didn't want to go on track (understandable) you could go on the RR and/or chat to members and socialise in general.

There was also the hugely successful show and shine....... :laugh:

Personally I can't see what more people would want.

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I think the point Lee was making is that we seem to have got away from the actual social side of the clubs National day & it just seems to be a trackday now (or a drag day) & not a go round & look over cars, chat to members, etc etc.


Out of interest, what do out continental brothers & sisters do on their national day ?

I think so too but I found it really quite sociable too, I met some new faces (some from abroad) and caught up with some old faces too.

And then there was helping out and lending tools to fix Steves leaking fuel tank! :D

I guess it's what you make of it from that point if view though......