MrB's Raider Project

Well, I bit the bullet and have done the deal! - I am buying my old Raider back after 6 Years!!

Included in the sale:
Raider Shell - Very good condition, recently painted (again)
Standard engine & gearbox
Seam welded and poly bushed subframe
Boxes of spare parts from 2 other breakers including doors, dash, interiors, running gear, etc
Some silicone hoses
Loads of GT Tuning & K Tec stuff
Half Cage & Boot Brace
Header Tank
Heatshield
New bonnet
New windscreen

Split engine ready for the following (also included in the sale)
Wossner Pistons
Steel Liners
K Tec Stage 3 Gas Flowed Head
K Tec Grill Mount Intercooler Kit
Group A Carb
Piper 285 Cam and Pulley
Gas flowed turbo elbow
K Tec downpipe


So I need to get, everything to build the engine such as gaskets, seals, bolts.
New oil pump
New water pump
Hybrid Turbo
Gas flow stock exh manifold
Raider Front Seats
Replace carpet
Pair of Headlights
Clutch & Cable
Replace Engine Bay Loom
New bodykit fittings
Windscreen seals

Loads of other bits and pieces and no doubt the list will keep growing :scared:

Hopefully with the spares I am getting I will be able to make the most of the best parts and will have plenty of spares to sell on afterwards.

Top of the list though is a pair of Jacking points to be welded in and get it properly undersealed.
Then all new brake lines etc to go on.

Meanwhile I can catalogue all the parts and start cleaning all the ancillaries :cool:

My goal - A high specced engine built for fast road, oe looks (apart from a couple of subtle mods)

No timescale, but it has to be right :laugh:

Some pics as she sits at the moment (in my mates garage)

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...F84277ABE6.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...F849A6E14A.jpg

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http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...F869DD1A77.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...F8756C7216.jpg

Sorry for the crappy pics, only had my phone with me.

Once I get it moving I will get some better pics :)

All the bodykit, glass, smoothed bumpers etc are still at the paint shop. Once everything is starting to take shape it will look a bit more normal hopefully!!

Lovely - great base to start with - your project is miles infront of mine and you havent even started yet !

:agree: Nice work!

Cheers,
main thing is there is no rot on it. I know it's been fixed in the past but it's pretty solid and I'm starting from the ground up.

Will I be there at national day..... hmmmm :devil:

Glad you bought it theres always plenty of help on here for u buddy looks great btw :agree:

Awesome. Watching this thread closely. Will be ace once finished.

Cheers fellas, will hopefully have some news early this week :cool:

New poster! (less than 10 posts)

Well done mate on getting your Raider back. Looks a good project :)

Currently in the process of making a list of parts for the build.

Please feel free to add to or change :cool:

Bottom End Gasket Set
Big End Bearings
Mains
Thrust Washers
Head Gasket Set (Uprated)
Head Bolts
Studs
Nuts
Water Pump
Oil Pump Renault
Alloy Rad
Timing Chain
Tensioner
H/O Starter
Plugs/LeadsDis/Cap
Carb Elbow
Turbo – Stage 2 T2/T25
Clutch Valeo
Clutch Cable
Engine Bay Loom
TDC Sensor
Water Pump Fixing Bolts
Alternator
ARP Head Bolts
ARP Con Rod Bolts

Can't think of what else to add,but it'll increase:D:agree:

I've only done a reasonably tame project but your ideas change and plans change!

Most of all, just don't rush it and give yourself grief then it's enjoyable watching it come together - and it enjoyable seeing people's updates:agree:

Best of luck with it all:agree::agree: looks a great starting point, definately made the right decision because by the time you've finished you'll know every square inch of the car:agree:

So you brought it then I see, good man! :agree:

It may not look it now, but the hardest parts been done, I.e. getting it rot free and in bits! Trying to free off bolts that's are years old and snap is not a easy job. :laugh:

Looks great, your on to a winner already, looking forward to seeing this one take shape buddy! :cool:

looking forward to seeing this progress :)

Ok, first update:

Been and collected 1 load of spares and parts. There is approximately 3-4 more car loads left :eek:

Forged Wossner Pistons, Steel Liners, Stage 3 Gas Flowed Head, Gas Flowed Inlet Manifold, GRP-A Carb, K Tec Grille Mount Intercooler Kit, GT Tuning Header Tank, Eliptical Vent, Exhaust Surround, K Tec 2.5" Downpipe, Goodridge Brake Lines, Mocal 10 Row Cooler with braided lines & stat, some silicone hoses, Piper 285 Cam & Sprocket, Chrome Rocker Cover + Various other stainless/chrome bits such as Scuttle Panel Kit, heater surround etc....
Also 1 of 2 genuine uncut parcel shelves :cool:

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...8122AA227F.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...8126B9295C.jpg

Various spare parts:
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2 sets of clocks + what is in the car
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...8136B221D2.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...813A7FCE6C.jpg

Once the car is complete I will be selling all used spares including
Doors, Bumpers, Glass, Mechanical etc....
I have at least 1 spare carb, several manifolds, a couple of stock turbos and more to come yet :cool:

You got a spare set of dash clocks. My odometer don't work, think the part itself is knackered

Must feel like Christmas right now to you! :laugh:

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Originally Posted by fossie

You got a spare set of dash clocks. My odometer don't work, think the part itself is knackered

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I will have, once everything is under control I will start on the spares :agree:

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Originally Posted by Goobie

Must feel like Christmas right now to you! :laugh:

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Ha, yeah kind of considering what I paid and what is still yet to come, i.e. the car, a running engine, split engine etc.... :wasntme:

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Originally Posted by fossie

You got a spare set of dash clocks. My odometer don't work, think the part itself is knackered

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I think I have a spare set of clocks.. Will check my shed tomorrow..

You've got the makings of a winner there Mr B! :niceone:

I would recommend you take your time & enjoy the rebuild/working on your car rather than trying to throw it together for the National Day.

Thanks big Steve, yup think this is going to a long term project.
Might just come to ND as a visitor this yr :)

Cleaned some of the hoses tonight.
Unfortunately these are the only silicone hoses so I will have to buy loads more but as you can see some are doubled up so will be for sale at a later date

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...E528887891.jpg

From the first few boxes I have a spare head, cam, rockers, about 3 carbs, a couple of standard oil filler caps, rocker covers, etc!:)

Unfortunately I also have a lot of brackets and bolts with no idea where they go yet :cry:

Can't wait to get started on the chassis :cool:

Soon to be under sealed, new jacking points welded in, all new brake lines, handbrake cables and whatever else. :cool:

It'll be finished by the weekend at this rate chap! :) good work

This is going to be one seriously good gtt :)

Thanks Jonny5 and thanks to everyone for the encouragement so far.

I look at the big box of bits and :cry::cry::cry:

But I'm sure I will get there one day :laugh:

Stick with it mate. :)

Lots of people on here who can help too :agree:

So as I lay here at 1 am thinking this could all be too much :(

I'm wondering if I should turn this into a parts for sale thread :crap:

:crap::sad2: :eek:

You're close to competing with Penfold on this thread.... 2days from the start of a rebuild project before turning it round & selling it on.

:coffee:

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Originally Posted by Big Steve - Raider

:crap::sad2: :eek:

You're close to competing with Penfold on this thread.... 2days from the start of a rebuild project before turning it round & selling it on.

:coffee:

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lol :laugh: thats crazy .the record has been broken!!! what will chris do now hahaha

dont give up :agree: most people struggle to find a shell let alone one thats already stripped and painted!! if you had been closer i would have the shell!!!! makes life easier starting with what you`ve got. it will come together quick enough. just crack on!!

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Originally Posted by Big Steve - Raider

:crap::sad2: :eek:

You're close to competing with Penfold on this thread.... 2days from the start of a rebuild project before turning it round & selling it on.

:coffee:

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Cheeky... But fair (although did complete my red 5 project... Which is still kinda for sale...

As for this raider, don't give up... Have a weekend to invite a few members down and you will be amazed at what can be done :)

I would love a Raider project... Never owned a raider, would be killed if I brought one ATM haha

[QUOTE=*MrB*;324063]So as I lay here at 1 am thinking this could all be too much :(

I'm wondering if I should turn this into a parts for sale thread :


So you've got boxes and boxes of kit & parts that you have no idea what they are for?

Where they go? - Is it all there? - when am I gonna get the time to do it? - and on my own? - can I afford to do it?

If you butchers my build thread I haven't by any means done a full build like yours, but!! I remember at first thinking 'ohhhh f**k what have i done'

I didnt have a scooby doo when i first started my car (not much has changed:wasntme:)

Not everything has to be done straight away, I've left some bits on my car just to get it road worthy, these cars are never 'done' but don't let it beat you, after a while you'll be clued up and realise joining here was a good decision (full of pics, advice and relevant threads!) and some bits can be done at a later date:agree:

When I look at my dads project (old BMW 635csi) I realise that we own a simple go-kart:wasntme:

Wallace, that is exactly it!

Oh my god where do all these bits go?!!
What is missing?!!
Where do I even start?!!
Have I bitten off more than I can chew?!!
I can see the cost spiralling out of control quite easily!!!

It's very daunting but I do really want to stick with it.

Just had one of many (I'm sure) anxious moments thinking what have I let myself in for!!

I know there is good help on the boards and I think once I get stuck into the chassis and start actually putting bits in some sort of order I will feel better.

Just lying there last night unable to sleep thinking Jeez, what I doing!!!
The end result should eventually be more than worth it :agree:

Thanks again for all the encouragement and support :)

Just do one area at a time mate like put interior in carpet obvious where that goes seats centre consul that gets rid of alot of things then put glass in then bumpers and archs and skirts leave front end because your putting engine in make a list and follow it thats what i do its easy to get distracted anything your stuck on ask and i will take a picture and do a description and get a haynes manual i found it helpful

Or if you're unsure ask a local member to bring his 5 over and check that all the pipes/wiring etc is all good. Plenty of people on here are willing to help mate.

Think positive and be methodical. It'll be a great motor when its back together :)

first thing you need to do is decide what you want the finshed artical to be!

Track, street, drag, show car etc

Looks a really good base though, good luck :D

Cheers guys,

What I'm after is oe looks with a couple if subtle mods (already done)
A strong reliable fast road motor.
Good looks and some poke to go too :)

Every bodies spot on with their advice:agree:

And yeah mate I know the feeling cause I've done it!

Well actually, I'm still there:wasntme:

If it were me, the one thing I'd personally start with is all the electrical looms & relays etc - check wires arent broken,damaged, have poor connections, basically that things look usable, because at this point they are all accessible

The reason I say this is because most other parts can be bought or changed over in time, but the engine loom for example is a FOOKING pain in the arse to get to once fitted and ultimately controls your whole engine so you want it to be sound and fit for purpose.

Just my opinion but something to maybe consider:agree:

Just been for another load is parts including;

Engine ancillary parts, body parts and some bits of interior.

Also a couple of pics of the shell in daylight

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...905AA9E2C5.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...9063B82884.jpg

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Parts collection growing!

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...8EBEFA1A6C.jpg

Some nice harnesses

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...8EBBB3215B.jpg

looks good mate whats them wheels you have in the back are they bbs's :)

The wheels are for a golf.

There are however a set if lenso's as per the pics on my profile :)

looks a good shell mate i thought them wheels look massive :laugh:

Ha, cheers fella. Think those golf wheels are 18's

Yeah decent shell, decent paint job. Would look better with the kit on :ashamed:

Ok so I am thinking now.....

I am almost certainly going to sell some of the performance parts and use the original stock engine but I have had a few people message me about taking the lot on or everything to rebuild the car, so...

If I was to sell the following what would the interest be?

Wossner Pistons Standard Comp, from K-Tec
K-Tec Steel Liners
K Tec Stage 3 Gas Flowed Head
K Tec Grill Mount Intercooler Kit
Group A Carb
Piper 285 Cam and Cat Pulley

:confused:

A few more pics of some of the goodies

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...C81EF75127.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...C817394432.jpg

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If it was me I would be building a tasty lump up with all that loveliness........:smokin: he must be a good mate to let you all this lot for that price, sure you didn't pay him in kindness:laugh:

Got a pair of decent harnesses up for grabs

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...59EC1A3056.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...59F3FA25E0.jpg

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£100 for the pair? + delivery and fees

Got some of the eyelets but they were mounted to a boot brace so sold as seen

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Originally Posted by GTphil

If it was me I would be building a tasty lump up with all that loveliness........:smokin: he must be a good mate to let you all this lot for that price, sure you didn't pay him in kindness:laugh:

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He lost interest and wanted it all gone :scratch:

Mad if you ask me :confused: :laugh:

I've got no need for a 200 bhp motor to be honest.

My original plan was mint, oe with subtle mods and lightly tuned.

Nothing that couldn't be put back to oe basically.

This lot is taking it too far :crap:

Nothing wrong with that, intact I often wish I could do the same, I just love a quick gtt to much to resist :wasntme:

If your serious about it then it has to be exactly how you want it otherwise there is no point:agree:

Yup it's got to be right!

Anyway, here is some nostalgia :)

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...5E0248C021.jpg

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Originally Posted by GTphil

Nothing wrong with that, intact I often wish I could do the same, I just love a quick gtt to much to resist :wasntme:

If your serious about it then it has to be exactly how you want it otherwise there is no point:agree:

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:agree: well said.

Stock lump with a T2/T25 turbo

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...5F5ADF4EC7.jpg

Cool. Great project.

On that chart the torque seems to flatten right off from 3100-3800, when you'd expect it to be doing the opposite. Weird.

Yeah I thought it looked a bit flat, quite linear really.

Don't know how well it was set up at this stage. This was before the car was taken off the road and stripped down

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Originally Posted by *MrB*

Yup it's got to be right!

Anyway, here is some nostalgia :)

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...5E0248C021.jpg

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Kelly Burgess has mahoosive jubblys! Ha forgot about her! I miss topless models and cars. :(

:cool::cool::cool::cool:

This really is great to see ! I knew Morgy went on a lot about the parts he had everytime I spoke to him but never realised he had gone to this extent ! :eek:

Used to love this car back in the day, I think its time to change the grill and wheels though? Nice to see it all painted!

I have a friend local to Plymouth breaking a 5 if there is anything you need? Most has been sold so far but the shell is there and other bits (bodykit etc)

Look forward to the updates and will watch this thread with interest! I reckon you will beat mine to getting on the road :cry: Also will need to keep a sharp eye on that for sale section ;)

Yeah he went a bit mad with his parts spend really.

I think for now I will be putting the stock lump in and seeing what it needs. It's a lot of work.

Saw your thread earlier, good work :agree: Fancy coming n helping put mine back together? :laugh:

I sold it to Morgy so when he had it I had already had everything done to it. Got a stock grille and will be keeping oe wheels on it :cool:

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Originally Posted by *MrB*

Yeah he went a bit mad with his parts spend really.

I think for now I will be putting the stock lump in and seeing what it needs. It's a lot of work.

Saw your thread earlier, good work :agree: Fancy coming n helping put mine back together? :laugh:

I sold it to Morgy so when he had it I had already had everything done to it. Got a stock grille and will be keeping oe wheels on it :cool:

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I kept going on to get it done or at least on the road! Then he ended up buying that Tungsten / Green caged 5 which was such a bad move... I know he fitted some parts on this also, new hoses etc and alloy bits

I'll put yours together if you put mine together ?! :crap: ?? :laugh:

Time... that's my problem !

Yeah :crap:

He robbed a load of the good stuff of the raider to put the grey one on the road :disagree:

Fair shopping list of parts for the Raider now :laugh:

Good to know there is someone local anyway :agree:

So, went off to collect the shell today and another 2 loads of gear :cool:

So much stuff to go through :cry:

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...53159C44D6.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...5319DE98F5.jpg

Gave it a wash to get all the dust off

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Don't worry about the subframe, nice clean seam welded one to go in

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...53304801D4.jpg

Like this one :cool:

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...5337E4BB10.jpg

So many bits!!

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...533418C0AB.jpg

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Good times I would love that. Reminds me of having two 5's and parts everywhere. Work out what you need and sell the rest.. happy days.. but realise you will have 5 parts now for a long time I ended up having to bin some of my stuff when I moved :(

washing a bare shell :O hope water's not sat around in it mate

I gave it a good drying out with some if the missus finest towels :eek:

Yup, parts everywhere!!

Any progress yet dude? Or you been banned after using the mrs finest towels. :laugh:

Not really :(
Seem to have been manic with everything else at the moment!

I did fit up the doorseals and start the engine bay loom :cool:

Picking up the engine & glass Fri PM then waiting on bodykit and bumpers back from paintshop :coffee:

Turned into a dust collecter :cooter: or have you been sneaky and got this nearly finish buddy? :cool:

:ashamed:
Sold most of the goodies and got a decent offer for the remainder of the project so it had to go really :crap:

However, I still frequently browse and look for the right 5 and when it appears I hope to be back amongst it :cool:

Less than 6 months and you sold it all off :cry:

Anything left? LOL

1/2 cage but will probably keep it!

Was too much work and I'm too impatient :laugh:

Sold to me:D, Will be starting a thread once I have moved house.

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Originally Posted by *MrB*

:ashamed:
Sold most of the goodies and got a decent offer for the remainder of the project so it had to go really :crap:

However, I still frequently browse and look for the right 5 and when it appears I hope to be back amongst it :cool:

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Shame really, all it needed was putting together. :( There a good raider going right now on here at bargain price, get buying! :D

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Originally Posted by JimGTT

Sold to me:D, Will be starting a thread once I have moved house.

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Good man! Looks like a minter from the photos, so good base to build on. :smokin:

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Originally Posted by Goobie

Good man! Looks like a minter from the photos, so good base to build on. :smokin:

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Yeah will be a good one, great base, just want to take my time with it and make it right. Looking forward to getting started on it!!!:D Aiming for christmas time too be ready.

I'm sure with Jims knowledge, experience and patience it will be cracking when finished.

She I couldn't see it through but gave Jim a good project and made a few pennies on the rest of it :cool:

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Originally Posted by *MrB*

I'm sure with Jims knowledge, experience and patience it will be cracking when finished.

She I couldn't see it through but gave Jim a good project and made a few pennies on the rest of it :cool:

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:scared: :scratch:Hopefully anyway:D!!


Yeah its a great project for me, just what I wanted.
A few pennies profit aswell chris.....Not all bad:smokin: