last weekend i made chris med a onepeice down pipe and was wondering if anyone would be intrested in one. currently waiting for feedback from chris as to what he thinks.
if anyone would be intrested pm or post here.
thanks
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last weekend i made chris med a onepeice down pipe and was wondering if anyone would be intrested in one. currently waiting for feedback from chris as to what he thinks.
if anyone would be intrested pm or post here.
thanks
Got any pics? :)
Will do you a pick now its really good
yes give me a few minute to sort them i have pics of other downpipe i have made recently in my profile.
nice goin liam, id like one t2 t25 fitting, what sort of price...:)
What are you charging for them?
£250 delivered
5 gtt sytle flange (4 bolt)Quote:
Originally Posted by jesus in the seat of a 5
this is the one he made me just got it today and i will be fitting it tommorow its amazeing quality
http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3d327bb2.jpg
http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3d327bb2.jpg
Very nice bud.. But £250s way to steep for me I'm sure it's the going rate but not for me spent way too much lately.. Chris what you going todo about your AFR bung?
looks good :agree:
what diamater are they? 2 1/2 inch?? if so I could be tempted, but a T28 flange would be required
would a bulk order have any impact on reducing the overall cost??:D
:agree:... i would of thought if you put a price tag of £170 plus postage etc youd get many more sales, still im sure theyre worth it and im not knocking the product in any way but id want to see the product in real detail for the £250 inc price tag.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nottswoody
yes they are 2 1/2 and s/steel flange and lambda bung.
yes if there was 5 people intrested could do them for 200+p&p.
what if theyre were 10.....;)Quote:
Originally Posted by groky
I could very well be interested in one with bung and a t28 flange for the blue meanie
I'd be ready for one at the end of January most likely.
Ross
I'd be interested in a group buy
could knock £15 off for mild steel flanges instead of stainless.
Be nice to see them under £200.. The quality of the bms downpipe was amazing and the original price was £140 delivered I think for my first, then I got one of the second batch at the same price. The batches later were around the £180 mark with the group buys and selling for more to non club members. Then big jims were £150 but less pretty hence they sold but not in waves like the bms.. Then cgb got him to make him some selling for £200..
For £200 I'd need it looking as epic as the bms, with a lower price it would roll a batch of 10 easily as then 10 excess would sell on eBay for more..
Remember us club members are tight cnuts, we had koni group buys kicking about a year ago with some hints of prices around £400.. No interest.. Then joe blogs phones them up and scores a price of £280 :devil: 10 members + are chucking money at them.
These are something them members want but they don't just open there wallets, you have to tickle there balls first.
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Originally Posted by dangerous dave
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I have a bms down pipe, the quality is amazing, he made one off for me true gent. Lets tickle his balls for another batch I need a bigger one :)
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Originally Posted by dangerous dave
I wouldn't pay any extra for this but it's a nice gesture to get customer loyalty :D
Am in need of one of these. But not at that price! Plus can the bung be put up to just after the bend of the turbo rather then near the bottom?
Elliott
Thing is this lad is makeing them in his spare time how much is an enlarged elbow and in stainless and an enlarged stainless down pipe? i am well happy with the price and quality i shall fit it on tommorow and will take photos and a big thanks to liam
i'm sorry that everyone feels they are rather expensive but it was 5 years or so ago when boris and big jim started making them but the price of materials have increased some what since. If i could get the materials cheaper i could by all means make the pipe cheaper. As for the moment £200 for 5 or more would be as low as i could go and £225 for singles.
p.s if any has anyone contacts for materials that may be cheaper than where i get mine i can make enquiries. Which will only make the pipe cheaper.
oh and it has got an afr bung you just cant see it on the photos i took lolQuote:
Originally Posted by chris
Borris made them in own time too. Material prices may well differ these days though? From then to now although irrelevant copper price is at least tripleQuote:
Originally Posted by chris
Btw they look very impressive, nices skills
I bet borris had alot more contacts and bulk orderd at trade prices makes a huge diffrence plus loads of equipment makeing it quicker and easier i really thought price was greatQuote:
Originally Posted by JRP
i do shop around for cheaper prices but the flanges i have laser cut and dont buy them of the shelf and get the tight mandrel bends from a supplier and the large swept bend bent out of a lengthof pipe so please dont think that im not trying to cut out the midlemen.
New poster! (less than 10
thanks jrp i do agree the boris pipe does look good.Quote:
Originally Posted by JRP
It would be nice to actualy have yours side by side with the bms/boris ones. Both look nice, another one cropped up a while back as a group by not by boris and I really didn't like it. ( no offence to the maker)Quote:
Originally Posted by groky
yes the lambda boss can be placed any where you require just its hidden out of sight where there is plenty of room. Also i read that afr sensors operate best 30cm from the turbo. correct me if i'm wrong just what i read.Quote:
Originally Posted by gardner51
I heard similar, hence the standard position of hole/bung.... Scoffs your man for that I'd imagine.Quote:
Originally Posted by groky
Off subject groky, but you seem handy, maybe look at making manifolds etc exhaust and bits for EFI ;)
i have made manifold recently i'm currently making a manifold for r5 scotty for his f4r conversion, but on hold at the moment until i get my engine out of my 5 and out of my clio so i can mock the collectors position. not taking the engine out just for that thought both engine need work doing.
boris's post 14 jan 2009
New poster! (less than 10 posts)
It's nice to see people are still intrested in the one-peice downpipe I created a year or so ago, at the time it was enjoyable making them.
On the last batch I made the prices of the laser cut flanges had increased, and the d/p price reflected that, the cheapest I could make them now would be around 160/170.
That's taking into account the laser cut flanges, mandrell bent pipe, lambda b+b, p+p, time taken to make ect.. Unfortunatly I can't sell them for any cheaper.
Anyways, it seems https://www.rtoc.org/boards/member.php?u=765 is ready to make a few using the jig from the 'msm' day's, sound's intresting as the one I saw looked nice. Im not in a rush to make any more so see what Jim is saying. (including pics/price?) If there any good im sure it will sort out the few people wanting a downpipe upgrade.
And is Scott K making some more 3" downipes?
Unless yours is in the same place? But I thought it goes 6" after the turbo?Quote:
Originally Posted by JRP
As bms did?
http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/v...1CAE05C8D6.jpg
Prob rong though?
Elliott
i have removed my old down pipe and fitted the one supplied by liam this morning. it fits really well i have just bolted it up with a couple of bolts so you can see it fitted because i want to wrap it, but it fits and clears everything but as its a 2 1/2" i am goin to shorten my heater matrix pipes just to give it abit more of a gap cheers liam :agree:
http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/...psa2f02b7e.jpg
You must forgive my drug lay den typing sometimes(legal drugs). My bms is same as the pic. Sorry for confusionQuote:
Originally Posted by gardner51
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Originally Posted by chris
looks the dogs danglys that:agree:
Yea i am pleased with it and its 2 1/2" for some reason i wrote 3"
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Originally Posted by chris
wanted that extra half inch lol ;)
Who doesn't :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by r5_scotty
:laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by r5_scotty
bang on there, i was think 180- 200 posted and you WILL get more sales and is a fair priceQuote:
Originally Posted by jesus in the seat of a 5
Guys I can tell you stainless steel had gone up on price recently, I was at piper the other day and they said there having to up there prices, they had sourced a cheaper supplier for the same quality grade steel.. But that steel rippled as it was a fraction thinner... :(
£200 for a group buy ain't a bad price...
I can't really see the issue with the price to be fair, if the quality is good then why not pay the guy for his skills:confused:
After all if it was that easy then we would all be knocking up our own versions, half the reason the other guys stopped bothering making them was because it wasn't really worth their time and effort:disagree:
imo we should be willing to make it worthwhile for someone to make these rather than trying to knock down the price:agree:
200 for a group buy price is very fair i think, iv got my bms, if not i would be putting my name down
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Originally Posted by GTphil
I could not agree more with Phil everyone wants one, but dont want to pay the price for one if i was making them i would put them up at a set price and that would be it i think that is a good price for the gains you will see and if they are a good quality then that to is a bonus. I know it didnt warrant big jim making them when he did as he was seeing almost no profit from them so come on guys dont be tight and start ordering one :agree: i would but that wouldnt fit on mine ;)
As said last night quality looks good. And materials must cost more to then, and he needs to cover his time money wise. :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by philr5t
so long nd short of it people are happy to pay 200-225??? delivered??? like jrp said ,its not only materials its time nd labour too.
so how many people are genuinely interested??? a list maybe?? then liam may be able to sort a batch??? that is if he wants to do it. :)
I have 2 so I'm out.. :)
I'm interested
ill try one too im the new year...:agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Brizza
And me. Group buy in jan?
Elliott
:agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by gardner51
same hereQuote:
Originally Posted by gardner51
we should get a list started :D also willing to put down a deposit to get one secured
Tried pm'ing him but no reply. Would like to get this group buy sorted so can get them made ASAP lol,
Elliott
im in. :agree:
Who is wanting one list here and we will go from here, for now I will only make them for club members anyone out side the club will simply have to wait.Quote:
Originally Posted by gardner51
I will require £50 deposit each as not to much to lay up front and to much to lose if you drop out. I will be laying more out on each one so if no deposit no downpipe.
Also if each person could send a gasket of the turbo flange they will be using will save alot of confusion as there are several different patterns. Gasket will be returned with you downpipe.Thanks groky.
paypal. liamgrocott49@hotmail.com
Where do we send the deposit to?
I havnt got time to send a gasket as I'm off away tomorow,
Though mine is standard as I was using a standard elbow?
Quick pic of mine..
http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/v...D33DF478BF.jpg
Copy n paste the list people...
Gardner51...
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Originally Posted by groky
Sorry didn't see that,
Would like to get 5 names first as I don't want to pay more then 200 plus post.
So will send the deposit when 5 names are down
Elliott
thats no problem at all. sounds good to me.
Would like to get 5 names first as I don't want to pay more then 200 plus post.
So will send the deposit when 5 names are down
Elliott
rat1
sorry for late reply im in.
Elliott
rat1
kiwicolour
2 more to go then...
[QUOTE=kiwicolour;307757]sorry for late reply im in.
Elliott
rat1
kiwicolour.
Casper.
I'm in :agree:
would it fit to r11 turbo as well?
I'll have one do I just send you the deposit
Sweet. That's 5 people!
Elliott
rat1
kiwicolour.
Casper.
J4ck-dw
Will wait for groky to reply that he is ready and we can send him the £50 deposit
Also he needs to no what turbo flange you require,
If you are just replacing the standard elbo and wanting a straight swap he will kno what one to use.
Elliott
I'm ready to order part when all deposits are paid. Please post your gasket with your name and address as so there will be no confusion on flange patterns. Any other changes would you please note ie lambda boss or not and it position.
Do you still need a gasket if we need it to be the same as a standard elbo flange?
Elliott
[QUOTE=casper;307785]Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwicolour
Why are you getting one billy big balls
I've got a t28 I got from Jesus not even sure what flange it is :S any help ...
£50 deposit sent
[QUOTE=GT Josh;307824]Was getting it for you as an engagement pre:cooter:sent.Quote:
Originally Posted by casper
£50 deposit sent
I would prefer as there are a range of rear housings being used with the std elbowQuote:
Originally Posted by gardner51
Ok As the standard elbow fits ill send the gasket from a standard elbow.
Can we please have an address to send it?
Elliott
There's no need to send a standard gasket I have one but other than the standard flange pattern send a gasket of the flange pattern that you are using so I can get it right with no amendments as I could make them all with a 5 bolt flange and one of the 5 will be different.
Liam grocott
37 murton lane
Easington lane
Houghton-le-spring
Durham
DH50NB
Recieved deposits from Elliott gardener and jack ward
so how much are these now there are 5 people having them???
Me too! Thanks!
payment sent
[QUOTE=casper;307830]Haha nobhead :laugh::wasntme::cooter:Quote:
Originally Posted by GT Josh
Payment sent.
200 plus post,Quote:
Originally Posted by r5_scotty
Theirs now 6 as brizza wasn't one the list.
Just waiting for rat1 to send?
Send me a PM as regards payment details :)
deposit sent :agree:
Also received fromQuote:
Originally Posted by groky
Jonathon forth - Casper
Ricky sommers-kiwicolour
Raymond cook - rat1
Anyone else feel free to add your name whilst am ordering parts.
Firth not forth,I'm not tha:agree:t posh.Quote:
Originally Posted by groky
Also received from
Jonathon forth - Casper
Ricky sommers-kiwicolour
Raymond cook - rat1
Jack ward - j4ck-dw
deposit sent
Also received from
Jonathon forth - Casper
Ricky sommers-kiwicolour
Raymond cook - rat1
Jack ward - j4ck-dw
Ian brisland - brizza
Elliott gardner- gardner51
I will have standard 5 bolt flange and lamda bung were suitable so
Jonathon forth - Casper
Ricky sommers-kiwicolour
Raymond cook - rat1
Jack ward - j4ck-dw - standard with bung
Ian brisland - brizza
Elliott gardner- gardner51
Well done guys :agree:
here you go groky,just to save confusion
One down 5 to go bear with me lads
Don't know how to upload pics to posts but pics are in my profile of gardener51's pipeade today.
Anyone know what pattern is needed for a t28
here you go mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by j4ck-dw
Looking good.:agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by groky
Has anyone got theirs yet?
Elliott
I paid in full on the 23rd jan text him an sent him a pm still nothing through the post :( he even sent me a picture of the finished downpipe
Oh rite. He sent me a picture not so long ago showing me the position of the lambda bung. But havnt heard from him since? No reply from my text either?
Elliott
Casper you need to clear your messages buddy saying its full
DoneQuote:
Originally Posted by j4ck-dw
sorry for the no replys lads . i havent been well the past week since tuesday. i have three pipes here including jacks which is to be sent via courier first thing tomorrow there will be pics in my profile showing all pipe to confirm. One of which is gardener51's needs lambda boss welding in.
and one with a std r5gtt flange which is open for grabs.
Pm for you Liam
Got my downpipe today! Very impressive. Thanks groky!
Elliott
Hi, Just wondered hows this going? :)
I think Liam has two more to do,yours and mine.:agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Brizza
Arite I have 3 left to make and 1 with std r5gtt 4 bolt flange ready to send off to either Casper or kiwicolour.
best I can do Liam.
Also received very nice thank you
is it too late to get in on this?
Wondering if this is still open too?
I have just txt him for you lads telling him your intrested so he will hopefully get in touch :agree:
So did I.ha:agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by chris
Cheers chris
Yes they are avalible but still got some to make off last batch.
Which flange type you after?
Also trying to contact kiwicolour as his is ready but haven't yet got a reply.
:beer: cheer lads for the heads up
T25 what would postage to Ireland be
At a quick guess no more than £15Quote:
Originally Posted by robx1r
Just been on parcels2go cheapest is £16+VATQuote:
Originally Posted by robx1r
Had anyone fitted theirs yet?
Elliott
don't know, still waiting for mine.Quote:
Originally Posted by gardner51
Yes mate mine is on and running why is that mate?
Elliot has notice that there is a fair bit play between the downpipe and the exhaust crossover pipe, and was concerned whether this was right this is because I have left the two bolt flange loose to be positioned where ever is best for you guys which I shouldn't have done as the flange on the crossover pipe is also loose causing the excessive movement at the joint.
I would like to sort this on the others that people have received at my expense. please get intouch
just wondered how its going,any update on this.
I sent my downpipe back last week, I received it back today welded in place, going to fit this weekend, will report back on how it goes,
Elliott
Has everyone recieved theres or news from the seller? ive paid in full and still waiting. thanks
i'm also still waiting, this is starting to drag on a bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwicolour
Anybody sent him a pm to see how there's is coming along?
his a decent chap . somthing must be up for him not to have sorted the downpipes out.
He is sound. I have spoken to him a lot about mine and sent mine back and recived it. Ill send him a message n tell him you guys are asking.
Elliott
Yea he is a decent bloke i can ring him if you like must be something wrong like you say scotty
please don't get the wrong idea, i'm not saying his not a decent bloke.its not often someone will give up some of their spear time to make things for other people.
i just liked to be kept up to date even if there's a problem or something.its just i haven't herd any thing for sometime now.
Hows this going? I've paid my deposit and ok, granted I don't come on here much these days I was just wondering hows it going?
thanks,
Ian
Not herd anything for a while.Liam was on yesterday.In my case I have pulled out now,Liam wasn't able to supply one with the flange I asked for.Does this mean I kiss my deposit goodbye?
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Originally Posted by casper
I'll not be best pleased if I've lost my deposit and have been messed about for all this time :crap:
Will the club be officially pursuing this as the transactions were discussed and done on the owners club forums?
Admins? :(:cry::scared::scratch:
Two months since the last post on this thread. Come on Groky. Don't let the guys down. :(
does anyone not have any contact details for the guy?
I have his mobile and address...
Just spoken to him, one is on its way and still has 2 left to do.
Suppose hell come on here and exsplain now I spoken to him
Iim still here haven't ran away I had trouble with elloits seal between the downpipe and the exhaust wanted to get that right first along with other troubles at home.Casper pulled out no your deposit will be refunded and your bracket sent back I have two left to make and on with one on and off in between looking after the new born please bare with me I know it gone on a bit long now and I apologize if anyone wishes to contact me my number is 07724101768.
nice1 :) looking forward to seeing the end product :) cheers guys!
And your crossover pipe if you still after that brizza
:) :agree:
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Originally Posted by groky
Yes please :)
Still no refund or downpipe bracket.Have sent numerous texts with no reply.Getting a bit ****ed off now.
He's been on since I put this,no reply,no pm,no txt.Quote:
Originally Posted by casper
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Originally Posted by casper
:crap::(
Oh dear pffffft well I'll make a batch up if anybody fan us paying me loads upfront... I fancy a shed and stuffQuote:
Originally Posted by Brizza
Money is getting refunded as agreed will sort it now sorry for the delay bracket will be sent monday morning
There's been no numerous texts or pm on txt today and I was driving I apologize for any trouble I have caused refunding now.Quote:
Originally Posted by casper
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Originally Posted by groky
So no downpipe then? :crap::(:mad:
Does anyone have the blueprints/measurements of one of these put into something like AutoCAD or SolidWorks that I could get the made up by a fabricator?
Still awaiting my refund....
:badone:
Is it just Brizz who's still waiting?
I have had my refund minus pay pal charges:sad2:
I am still waiting for my dp bracket to be returned.:confused:
Brizza hasn't asked for a refund but will sort it need your paypal.
Groky, are these going to be made? if it is I'll go for it, If not I'll want the refund....
Groky, it depends if these are being made or not, if they are being made then go for it! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by groky
Hope is so hard to extinguish :D
Where is my downpipe bracket?
Right. So whats happening with these downpipes groky? Been a fare few months waiting now. . With not much communication if none at all. Are u still making this? I cant get the rest of the system made up till i have this and or fit my efi converstion. If ur no id like my refund pleqse.
And is there anyone else out there got one they like to sell or make for me please. Money waiting. Cheers
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Originally Posted by Brizza
nearly a month later and nothing...
Has anyone paid in full and not received them? Or just the deposites?
Just the deposite. Was to pay in full when it was completedQuote:
Originally Posted by gardner51
Update. Downpipe arrived. Decent bit of kit. Cheers groky
Whats crack with this? Still no downpipe and still no refund. :(
Well he's no longer a member and hasn't logged on since July last year, so it's not looking good :crap: Who does he owe money to?
me for starters... :ashamed:
Does anyone have Grokky/Liam's contact details please.
Groky 07724 101768
Cheers, spoke to him this evening. has promised a refund.