Having a read trough boards and this doesnt seem an unusual mod so whos running one of these engines and what set up ya got?
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Having a read trough boards and this doesnt seem an unusual mod so whos running one of these engines and what set up ya got?
Mark
standard engine
standard clutch
r5 gearbox
gt 28 turbo
front mount
pipercross air filter
no cat
saab injectors
scoff modefied ecu
modefied air flow meter
scorpion exhaust
that made 175 bhp @13psi at track and road
same mods but now using dta engine management (0 bhp @0 psi in my unit as it dont work) lol
new engine to contain
forged pistons
l/b fly wheel
l/b knife edge crank
shot peened rods
head work
huge front mount
(on hold as im poor)
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Originally Posted by dave r5
sell it to me dave.... i could do with another car! haha
Thats impressive.
what are the weaknesses of this engine?
:coffee:
You wanting to sell it too me ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenobi
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Originally Posted by Chris Hebden
Im just after as much general opions about this engine set up as possible. Surprisingly i know quite a bit about the 5s now.
As far as i understand they are pretty bullet proof engines, lots of potential and relatively cheap to mod! I really want to do a 1.7T conversion my self soon!
my engine setup
stock b18ft
TD04-h turbo
Richmod
bigger injectors 230 cc
Fmic
pulled 163 BHP an 240 NM @ 0,7 Bar (10 psi)
On the rolling road i discovered that a had and crappy fuel pump, so i couldn't set it higher than 0,7 bar. Now it runs fine on 1.3 bar. ?? BHP
Next setup
refub engine
315 cc injectors
NA ES camshaft
F7R trottlebody
TD-04 turbo
fmic
Megasquirt computer
hoping to get 200 HP om the wheels
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Originally Posted by sieger
200 at the wheels will be scary wont it?
Scary??? Think u mean fun my friend lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Kenobi
Its a hold on tight and hope for the best :) great way to driveQuote:
Originally Posted by steveR5GTT
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Originally Posted by Kenobi
unless going for more why do you need to fit a bigger engine? 200bhp from the c1j can be done?
There is only a handful of cars if that which are running 200bhp at the wheels on this club.Quote:
Originally Posted by rs250nut
Reason for going for more is better fuel consumption. better power delivery, plus its a lot more effecient engine which isn't going to be stressed as much.
talking about fuel consumption, mine sucks ass:disagree: although mines an auto i can only get around 55miles per £10fuel.:crap:
also question, are these engines fitted with a recirc dumpvalve as std.? im sure i can see something that resembles one coming off the pipe thats fitted to the compressor housing. if that is one,can i replace it with an aftermaket dumpvalve? i just fancy being abit gay at the moment:cooter:
Ive just bought a clio with this engine in it ya see.
The quarter mile leaderboard suggests more though. Look at how many people are running 110mph traps, that indicates a good 230hp at the fly and your not going to be loosing more than 30hp through the drivetrain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigfoot
Plus adding more weight your going to need more power.
Any one got a nice photo of this engine? Are there many hoses on it? Whats the coolant circuit look like?
How many are of those are road driven cars or just trailored about?
What type of Clio?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenobi
Mk1Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Hebden
You have a PM dudeQuote:
Originally Posted by Kenobi
A bit tasty ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenobi
hope they help all i can find at the minute
Mine used to be my daily driver until I brought the m3 although I know what you mean is was a pain in the ass to keep it as a daily.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigfoot
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/9762/img1643n.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Kenobi
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/9025/koeling.jpg
seiger im likeing them piks
have u used a r5 rad.?
i cud never get min to ist right with the extended clutch release arm
Another pic for you Kenobi mate
https://www.rtoc.org/boards/album.php...pictureid=6284
Even more reliable engine and it isn't pushed so hard as a C1J to get 200bhp.Quote:
Originally Posted by rs250nut
yes this pic shows the diesel rad. but now i have a volvo 240 rad installed. alot bigger that the diesel.Quote:
Originally Posted by dave r5
Thanks to everyone for Photos diagrams and help.
daily driver here and mines goin up to 300-320 soon lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Bigfoot
seems alot of potential wit these engines tho can see alot more of these conversions being done this year
How many gearboxes you gone through though? or you managed to sort that problem out.Quote:
Originally Posted by steveR5GTT
Im on my 4th box so far but its not as bad as it sounds lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Bigfoot
1st box was in the car wen i brought it and it kept poppin out of 2nd so put in another 2nd hand box when changing the clutch
2nd 1 went cos i ripped the rear engine mount in half wen launchin and after changing the mount found id lost 3 out the 5 gears
3rd went at pod, alot of runs 2 days in a row with 9 inch wide slicks and a welded diff was just 2 much for the car and i ripped the bolts out the flywheel which shattered the flywheel, pressure plate, clutch, huge hole in the gearbox, jumped the cambelt a tooth and bent all 16 valves and damaged the cams lol, so an expensive outin but got a not bad time on the strip so dats wat matters hey lol
4th box gone in and no probs so far
I wouldnt run a welding dif on a strip IMO....:) fully open difs are capable for good 60fts with proper drag tyres... unless your on road tyres and badly unbalanced in weight...
yeh i no mate dats been changed, was mainly for the rd to actually hav traction as find traction a prob in 4th at timesQuote:
Originally Posted by Rob@Backyardracing
haha kenobi ....i kno who built this car :):) it was built in edinburugh a few years back ..sold to a lad down south ..i can get details if anythings been done to the engine for you if you want? :smokin:
Yes please mate. Dave off Cliosport.net sold it to my mate Will, who sold it to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bass J
as said in pm ..ive gave you his e-mail addy ...he told me to give you it :)
The clio 172. Its got a top (unsure what its called) that looks like the volvo turbo engines top upside down.
HOW ****ING CRYPTIC AM I!!!?????
Is the 172 and the volvo 1.7 engine related?
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Originally Posted by Kenobi
Both an f series block. Are you talking about the inlet plenium
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Originally Posted by James5
Yes that!!! Thanks james. So is it the same engine?
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Originally Posted by Kenobi
No one is 1.7 the other is 2.0
Ah. can ya like swap parts tween them?Quote:
Originally Posted by James5
no, totally different. they're "based" on the same block, thats it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenobi
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Originally Posted by Scoff
Ah ok.
Ok so if i want a haynes for this engine I gotta buy it for the volvo yeah? which car is that again?
Also samcos etc they will be listed for the volvo car?
Volvo 480 Kenobi. You might struggle getting off the shelf samcos to fit the clio depending on rad used and positioning.
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Does any1 know which red saab injectors r need like, what year? or maybe a part number?
2.3L saab 9000 turbo. bosch p/n: 0280150431.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tinman
They crop up on ebay pretty often, but watch out, the vauxhall lads like to snap them up sharpish ;)
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Originally Posted by Scoff
Thanks for that scoff good info fella.
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Nice 1. I also read from a volvo 480 site that some guys have used v70 2.4 injectors they fit also.
Was there ever any articles done on this 1.7 turbo conversion, it's an interesting option to the C1J. I'm sure there were factory boundries in place that could be tampered with/over rode? to extract more boost/power