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Hi all, im starting this thread as we are shortly going to be replacing the c1j with a f7r, we should be getting a brand new GARRETT GT3071R Wednesday which we bought for the f7r engine project, ill get some pics up at some point but hopefully will be starting just after the Saturday night special event @ pod so early October :laugh::laugh:
You going to be running the car at Sat Night special to see what the C1J can do before pulling it out?
the project consists of
Clio Willaims/Megane 2.0 16v F7R.
It has done around 3,000 miles since rebuild consisting of. -
Stripped, head skimmed, crank reground, new machined pistons to lower the compression, new cam followers, mains and thrusts bearings, big ends bearings, pistons rings, all gaskets, timing belt and tensioners, turbo oil return to sump and a turbo oil feed outlet added to main block.
It will include almost everything you need to direct fit and run. -
Adaptronic e420c ECU with full ready to go engine loom.
Audi wasted coil pack.
Magnercore leads.
Alternator.
Inlet manifold.
Throttle body.
Fuel rail.
Various sensor.
Custom equal length turbo sidewinder exhaust manifold with turbo end brace.
External wastegate including with screamer pipe.
Front mount intercooler with intercooler pipe work.
Engine & front gearbox mounting brackets including brandnew rubber mounts.
Large radiator with custom water pipes to still run heater matrix.
Starter motor.
Also,
Clio 172 Cable driven JC5 Gearbox with cable drive.
Fresh resurface flywheel.
AP Ceramic Paddle Clutch (only done 1,000 miles if that.) with brandnew cover plate.
New Genuine Clutch Cable.
Soft Pedal Conversion kit.
Short Shifter gear stick kit.
thanx to Goobie:agree:
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hopefully how it will roughly look
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not the turbo in view a that's goobs a new GT3071r will be fitted, have the oil cooler now, still need injectors GOOBIE:laugh::laugh: and a few other parts I need to speak to Robbie regarding the downpipe;);)
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Originally Posted by Markey Mark (BD)
absolutely mate yep going to up the boost just this once to around 21 psi and see what happens :laugh::laugh:
Good man :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by R5MJH
Lovely project mate! How much boost does he want to run?
Afaik it's on the standard megane rods which are piss poor, i would think skimmed pistons could take a beating but the rods will probably go first:crap:
it will only be running 300/330 hp arthur so the standard internals should be fine, it was running 17psi on robbies t34 and made 330hp which is all mike wants
That's some copy and paste pm going on right there, didn't fancy writing that out your self then? :laugh:
300/330bhp is plenty of power in a 5! :agree: Good to see project thread on the way now. :cool:
I've had the injectors sitting on the desk for over a month, I've actually just put them away as you know I've got some packing todo. :crap:
Anyway, I've still got the clips that hold them on too, I need to give them to ya at some point, that said, never heard back about if Mike wanted the 650cc injectors or not? I'm sure we're sorting some thing out. ;)
It was actually 16psi with 290 torque and that figure was with a leaking turbo compressor housing and exhaust manifold leak at both ends badly, since had the flange plate machine flat, so expect better figures and earlier boost etc turbo dependent. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by R5MJH
thanx goobs yep we will take them and the clips too at the agreed price ill collect them at the next surrey meet if ya going mate, yeah only want 330 max as we want the gearbox and shafts to hold together:laugh:
got to love a copy n paste :laugh:
few pics of the turbo im collecting mhawwww
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3" ready :laugh::laugh:
specs:
Genuine Garrett 700177 - 5023 ( GT3071R )
Its a dual roller bearing turbocharger that can produce up to 500 BHP depending on your engine spec.
It has a 60mm turbine wheel with 84 trim.
Genuine Garrett .63" undivided T3 GT 3" V band Housing ( T3 Inlet flange and GT large 3" V band exit )
It has a 71mm compressor wheel with 56 trim.
Genuine Garrett M12 A/R .50 polished compression housing 2.75" inlet and 2" outlet.
Also included is the V band clamp.
Phwoarr blimey guvna...you boys have been busy ...some really tasty bits in this build...all the best
nice to see ya still about dan:agree::agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by kentraider
turbo was going to go apparently on a Cortina mk2 cossie but the guy died and ive bought the turbo from a good friend of his, I told him no worries the turbo will still be used, sad really but our gain and a great saving on the new price of 1k:laugh::laugh::wasntme:
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Yeah im still lurking in the background mick lol.... hope you and mike doing good and hope to see you at sat nite special mucka:smokin::smokin:Quote:
Originally Posted by R5MJH
Just think of the times at surrey meet watching the big boys burn off...you gonna be one of them now...hunting down phil lol:cooter::cooter:
its a winter project so will see the meet sooner or later matey, phils is nearly back together too so should be at next meet for once:laugh:
Bit of a beafy turbo that. :cool: Decided who your going to use for mapping yet? :confused:
yep god of all gods goobs scoff of course:laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Goobie
Nice build. Look forward to seeing this finished.
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Originally Posted by smithyr5gt
thanx man just picked up turbo which is brand new, the guy was top notch and had a gt3076 there also, he has a mk2 Cortina running a cossie with a t38 very nice too,
this 3071 is massive to say the least:laugh:
lol massive turbo lol
im watching this thread as im about to do the same. have the block and my raider is coming of the road in 2 weeks ready for all the work. cant wait!!! keep the updates coming bud. :cool:
dont worry boss theres goin to be plenty of pics, the main man james5 is doing the fitting and he will be doing pics and updating progress knowing james thought it will be done in 1 week:laugh:
id also like to thanx arthur tutuur for lots of info and turboted for info and he will hopefully be building a 1 off downpipe as this car has a homemade exhaust manifold and not the traditional log type.
thanx aways build due to start after saturday night special:agree:
Interested in the outcome mate, i know it'll be fine in James hands:agree:
thanx arthur ill pm ya later could ya email me some pix of you water pipe routes thanx:agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tutuur
It's looking like my turbo, down pipe and full exhaust is not going to be used atall now, could of made a deal for the lot for less then you paid for just that turbo. :ashamed: :laugh:
Also, not only that, I've got spare set too of the Denso K20a coil on plugs (Same as Scoff using.) going spare to which I was guna use on that F7 set up. Maybe do a deal for them with the 650cc injectors I no longer need. :confused: :D ;)
if iirc mr goobs i bugged ya for ages about it and its wasnt for sale if the dp you got and exhaust goes over to the standard fp position then we could possibly sort somethin out for your fp exhaust, yeah might take the other bit too but deffo want injectors is your turbo out 3" v band?? thanx sir
2.5 inch dia v-band. :)
I know I know, but things have been put on hold so didn't know what il need and what I wouldn't. :scratch: What do you mean when you say "fp"? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by R5MJH
hope to be starting this asap now just been to garage to check on bits, looks like alternator is seized apart from that it all looks ok :agree:
I know people that have got pregnant and given birth and had first birthday in the speed your working to...... ;):cooter:
your probably right goobs, and i probably moan more than when they are in labour:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Goobie
get ya ass over er n help then:laugh:
c1j is out and now finishing tom putting in f7r and jc5 box, slow going but will get there in the end f7r now complete and ready to drop in,need to extend fuel lines and mock up turbo to make dp fit but that shouldn't take long
big thanx to james5 for helping me with parts and on the phone ill get some pics up once shes in and home :agree:
Dude not a problem, at this rate you will be ahead of me:agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by R5MJH
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Originally Posted by James5
don't think so lol, going to mock up turbo once home for dp to be modded, have powerflow in hove though maybe worth a phone call lol:laugh:
well it in after all the tears and cursing and scratches to my arms:laugh::laugh:
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massive thanx to james again and adey picked up the c1j today:cry::cry:
good luck adey its a great engine, now ill tow car home and hopefully finish in next 2 months with help of friends etc:agree::agree:
Mick looking good, Ill come down one eve next week and help get some more done :agree:
Looking good, takes me no more than twenty minutes to get in and out and that's without a engine Hosit. :cooter:
thx james id appreciate that ill get loads of bits ordered and may get some done before that ill keep updating thread lolQuote:
Originally Posted by James5
goobs ur a pish taker, think you are tired from all that sh@gging ya doing atm
well as I said its in, that's the main thing
thanx for all the help and advice from you both too:agree::agree:
well cars home but after a nightmare towed for 5 miles on bypass and then at the worse possible time mikes towing eye parted company from the subframe luckily id removed bumper b4:laugh::laugh::laugh:
spoke to cr turbos today they recommended the 1.0 restrictor instead of the 0.7 on the gt3071r, I told them the engines its on and they recommended this
anyone else got any input?
this is looking good mick, james showed me earlier what you been upto. jezz, least you are all getting into it. :agree: as always said, helps us hopeful contenders keep focus to get our fingers out lol. great builds
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Originally Posted by wilton_warrior
thanx chris appreciated sir:agree: well its still a mindfield to me but the hardest bit is now done so its got to be easier from here on in aint it:laugh::laugh:
btw heres the broken towing eye :laugh::laugh::laugh:
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indeed, your doing well. keep pushing on :)
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Originally Posted by R5MJH
cr confirmed today shes genuine lol, thank god mike paid enough for it:eek::eek::eek::coffee:
Some power there then. You not bothered about lag then?
its a 2.0 litre boss so there shouldnt be any lag but we will find out soon enough lol, personally i think this is overkill for what mike wants i would of stuck the gt28rs on if it was my own car, but ya cant tell him he no listens:laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by wilton_warrior
sometimes we need to find our own way. we may listen to others regards pros n cons however if its how you want your build to go then go 100% its like making your order at starbucks ect, its your preference, you try it, and go WTF this is like costa coffee knowing that perhaps you should have listened to others saying don't waste your dosh on that. but its still sometine you wanted to try. need to get my finger out also n crack on with my build. good work and speedy build :agree:
got old master of these coming 2morrow, james5 is his name pmsl:laugh:
big thanx also to goobie for the old downpipe FOC as well:agree::agree::agree:
some minor adjustments will hopefully make this fit onto the 3071r and mikes current 2.5" system will find out 2morrow if its going to work:rolleyes:
Nothing a angle grinder won't sort out! :laugh: :D
And some welding :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Goobie
Got one of those too. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by James5
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:agree::agree::agree::agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Goobie
Couple of Pics from this eve's work meet
massive thx jim for photos n help
ur da man:agree::agree::laugh:
Your welcome buddy,Quote:
Originally Posted by R5MJH
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Originally Posted by James5
Awesome I love a large penis. some things already done james:cooter:, CR turbo's just got back parts are in now I can amend list soon:D
To add I touched goobster up and he said he liked it . The ecu plug was already like it and working fine jim but I think a new loom in time would be in order matey
hahaha funny:laugh::laugh::coffee:Quote:
Originally Posted by R5MJH
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Originally Posted by R5MJH
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You missed this one aswell
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Originally Posted by R5MJH
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Originally Posted by James5
no i saw that too but am not taking any notice pmsl
mr sargent remember if you need me to touch you up I will do pmsl:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::cooter:
:cooter:Quote:
Originally Posted by R5MJH
ur just a pish taker jimbo;);):eek:
You missed out, gearbox oil change James! :cooter:
- Finish the fuel line's on the fuel rail and regulator, Done
- Order a 044 pump with 8mm inlet and outlet or similar pump, Done
- Order 10mm one way valve for brake cylinder, Done
- Order 1.0 restrictor for turbo core, Done & Fitted
- Order adaptor for the oil pressure gauge, Done & Fitted
- Order turbo coolant banjo's and feed's,Done & Fitted
- Order OS8472 speedo pick up kit, DONE
- Mock up the downpipe for modification and modify, Done & Fitted
- Dummy locate the external oil cooler. Done & Fitted
- Order some 8mm threaded bar with nuts and washers to mount external oil cooler, Done & Fitted
- Drill holes for 8mm stud / external oil location in cross member,Done & Fitted
- Locate the intercooler and drill mounting holes,Done & Fitted
- Treat the drilled holes with some Hammerite paint / por 15 anything to stop it rusting,Done
- Lay out the E420c engine loom fix the bad connections Done
- Install lower valver rad pipe, Done & Fitted
- Fix rad fan to rad wire on the original GTT fan connector, DONE & Fitted
- Install rad, Done & Fitted
- Bolt the modded gtt loom earth to block, Done & Fitted
- Fit the dipstick properly, Done & Fitted
- Remove the original air filter bracket 2 x 10mm bolts under the nsf wheel arch, Done
- Fit the external wastegate and screamer pipe,
- Install loom,
- Fit coolant piperun, Done & Fiited
- Fit boost piperun, Done & Fitted
- Fill with coolant,
- Check oil level refresh if needed,
- change gearbox oil thx goobs
Mick, the fan is controlled via the ecu, you can set it at what ever temp you like. :agree:
james used c1j alternator arm goobs, fits well:agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Goobie
added goobster:laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Goobie
:agree: Yeah mine's the same wasn't sure on Micks setup cheers Goob's, Mick remove that section from the C1J loom as you don't need the std setup now:agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Goobie
slight update cab was off road today so my mate rang and i popped over to convert the 2.5 v band into a 3 end, took loads of grinding but got there in the end
need 2.5 welded on the front pipe now, hopefully it will line up ish
big thx to goobster for the FOC DP from the f7r :D:D:D
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as you can see my mate got plenty of penitration:coffee::coffee:
Not a bad job that. :agree: Get a die grinder on the inside welds to smooth it out a little, your want some ear defenders trust me. :laugh:
was going to do this yesterday but mates is knackered tbh it looks worse than it is the v band is flat thats the main thing, loads more parts ordered so hopefully crack some more out this next coming week:agree:
did abit more last night with top lad jim, got a fair bit done but needs a new ic pipe run as old dont fit anymore, anywayz jim mounted ic and oil cooler but i had to remove ic temp as bumper wouldnt fit, needs slight modding
big shout out to say thx to jim
its getting there but we aint touched car at all for last 2 weeks
waiting on loads of hoses etc now to get more done
Mick as always no need to thank me mate I don't mind helping :agree: isn't really to much left to do, we will have to get some pic's next time of progress:agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by R5MJH
one word "loom" 😆Quote:
Originally Posted by James5
:scared: :laugh: If your popping to mine on monday bring it with and leave with me see if I can tidy it up a little over a few eve's:agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by R5MJH
Come on Mick, you know the rules, it's not an update without pictures! :cooter:
I would just buy a new loom to be honest, not to pricey luckly. :agree:
loads of parts arrived now goobs so ill have a pic fest this week matey, james is making the old loom look better for the moment till i see if it fires, tbh i need this dp done asap the speed james goes at i cant keep up:wasntme::ashamed:
right got a fair bit done last night had to move ic a tad and grind bumper slighty to fit also had to re route boost run as it was to low so moved it luckily we had some spare pipe to cut up
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massive thx to adey for help and james as usual still got a fair bit to do but its getting there
got a massive air filter but theres no room in the bay for it:cry::cry::laugh::laugh:
Looking Good.
Get that rad and loom in next :agree:
thats a job for you mr sargent on weds if ya coming maybe ready for surrey meet lol, adey wants to start dp tom lol hes keen:laugh:
Let him at it:agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by R5MJH
bit of a update away atm in iow but basically ive ordered loads of parts including water and air filter pipes, james has wiring loom which he is tidying up, when back i will get on with fitting all new parts and get some pics up but basically the main jobs left to do are fit adaptronic and loom, finish water run and boost run and finish the custom dp, then the oil water etc and fore it up lol, a special thx to james5 for always helping etc:agree::agree:
Mick, your thread is lacking pic's :agree:
A couple of the loom 1st pic untouched, 2nd pic amended removed wires not used and labelled up ready for going into car
james your a super hero :smokin:
your telling me kial, james is awesome:agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by kial
ok been busy around doing bits but managed to find some time to get some done on
mikes 5 sunday and had dp modified and welded yesterday
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still a few bits to do but should be ready to fire soon:D
Mick looking good :agree::agree:
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Originally Posted by James5
thx jim still got this to do
1. fit loom
2. fit screamer/external wastegate
3. fit vacuum run
4. heat wrap and fit dp and fit a support for the exhaust front pipe
5. oil/water/antifreeze/gearbox oil
6. fit wasted spark and plug leads
that's mainly it I think:D:D
thanx again for all ya help and get better soon buddy
heat wrapped dp looks much better now:D
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bit of a update lol
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got to fit loom still but im slowly getting there, got loads of other stuff going on but would love to get it ready for pod its going to be tight thought paint going off too needs a buff:D
Excellent that mick. More progress than I have made:crap:
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Originally Posted by Matt Cole
thx matt ive not spent that long on it really just abit here and there I had some help from james5 too in places, only really loom to fit and rest of water pipes which are ready to go straight on and the vacuum runs, looms really neat now too, james did most of it and ive finished it off looks like a loom now not a birds nest:laugh::laugh:
hoping to get done for pod but will be very close as ive got loads of other stuff going on too:cry::cry:
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Originally Posted by R5MJH
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Originally Posted by Matt Cole
not yet but will do once running:agree:
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Originally Posted by R5MJH
Wasted pack looks good where is it now than it would of with that stupid box that used to be on it. :rolleyes:
Getting close to killing that gearbox now mate. :cooter:
yeah it should be ok 1 lead is very tight I could do with 10mm more length oow aww:D:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Goobie
hope engine tilt don't knock it off too:laugh::laugh::agree:
Very nice 👍
thx kial matey, im having a mare with this car, been outside all day, got the dp and stay fitted correctly went to fit oil filter but couldn't get on as the pipes wouldn't let me fit it then I removed rad and still couldn't do it so again something needs modding, put the gear linkage on to find gears not working so it turns out because the box fulcrum has been modded to short shift the std rod don't work but in the end I had to put it to within 5mm of end of adjustment to get it to work but could do with lengthening to work correctly but god it short to shift and god knows how short it is with the proper gear stick that ill fit later at some point, long and short of it is still not running loom will only take 30 mins to connect anyways ill up some pics later
Sounds like your going through the hassle I was a couple of weeks ago. Take your time tick things of the list one by one and you'll soon be ahead of things 👍
with the help of the pic of ur lower water hose system i think its close now:agree:
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Originally Posted by R5MJH
Always handy to know a plumber 😂
nearly had mine started earlier now ecu's not picking up vr sensor 🙈🙈
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Originally Posted by kial
Kial, Take it off an clean it up? yours on a custom bracket? you might need to push it closer to the flywheel
ive just ordered a dual caravan sink drain 28mm into 28mm and a reducer hose and a 90 degree joiner might look a little smarter than urs:cooter:
lets us all know as soon as shes started on megasquirt lol:laugh:
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Originally Posted by James5
It's brand new mate. I have 2 washers on the custom bracket maybe take one out and try again.
Will keep u guys updated
Once the intercooler pipes bumper and grill are on your never see the handy work. I was pulling my hair out for a week trying to get the Clio pipe to fit just wasn't happening 😂
How you getting on?
yh not good have not had 5 minutes to get on it as ive been so busy with stuff going on, hope to change that this week if weathers ok, need it done soon anywayz as mot needs doing for tax otherwise it will need garaging, not much left to do tbh, think ill get it running first then tidy loom after
ill update here once ive got any news
hows your kial on the road??
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Originally Posted by R5MJH
Mines nearly there running an all together just final checks really. Hopefully by the weekend it will be out
Best of luck mate
thx boss appreciated its done now except joining about 10 wires on loom ill update pix tom but have a leak on a welded heater matrix pipe custom of course:agree:
ok so the cars almost done as I said in my last post heres some pix
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basically ive got to connect about 10 wires to the ecu and pit a couple of vacuum pipes etc, ive got a leak in the custom water pipe that goes to the matrix to so not far now from starting up hopefully nx week as ive go no time now as im working all weekend and Monday too
thx to adey(neighbour) and mike for there help too:agree::agree::agree:
Mick looking good you will have to take me out for a spin in it once complete:agree:
ok car is done and running but have some small issues
1. temp gauge don't work
2. rev counter don't work
3. wont tick over properly, but once servo pipe is off its better
4. major leak in exhaust at join
5. no battery light on dash but battery is charging at 14.9v
and a few other bits
any advice is good thx
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Originally Posted by R5MJH
2, same as above then check wiring.
3, there no cold start map on the ecu.
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Originally Posted by Goobie
1) Temp sensor for dash is just a case of extending the original GTT orange and green wires to the 2nd square sensor on the thermostat housing you may have to swap wires around but that's as simple as that. Your ECU is clearly getting a temp reading as you said the rad fan's been kicking in and out so it's been controlling the rad fan correctly.
2) Rev counter on the 420c uses the IGN 3 (Blue wire from ECU) B1 on diagram attached all this needs to connect to is the grey wire from the original AEI connection this will give signal to the rev counter if set correct in the ECU file (setting for this is located under the Trigger settings screen Ignition 3 should be set to Tachometer 50%. Ill get a pic of mine later for you.
3)Could be due to the cold start map lacking as Goobie has said but then you have said the rad fan has been kicking in and out so one would assume it's up to temp, Air leak? (vacuum pipe, inlet gasket, ICV possibly not functioning fully needs cleaning, broken 1 way valve's?
All the above are easy fixes just a case of tracing.
Well done for getting it running though Mick :agree: Your post is no good without pic's or a video:agree:
thanx guys tbh the car started and ticked straight over when cold the problem was once it was warm, this bloody rain is relentless ive got so much to do
1. front discs and pads
2. fix temp gauge ive ordered new temp sensor ill put wires to other sensor to check gauge works
3. fix rev counter this is weird ive wired ign3 the blue wire to the grey aei wire but rev counter don't work
4. fix batter light the alternator is charging but theres no light on dash
5. rework the dp as ive got a big leak at flange where it don't mate at the correct angle
6. sort hunting I think this is because ive used silicone hose on the servo pipe
overall im happy its started but need to mot before Tuesday as the tax runs out and car will get clamped so a lot of pressure atm, failing this it will need to be towed to mikes garage in Worthing which will be a pain in the fecking arse
but no water or oil leaks and turbo spins on tick over lol:laugh:
https://youtu.be/_BOwCT9JJt0
oh and clean out car its a sh1t tip atm, is also pink too:crap:
Luckily the issues you have are nothing to major to sort, with regards to the alternator light on dash that's to do with the purple wire on top of the alternator, it should be working as I only removed the original rad fan wires, perc fan wires, oil pressure and level wires from the original loom the rest is as it wasQuote:
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thx jim ill check the wires not broken:agree:
1. front discs and pads done
2. fix temp gauge ive ordered new temp sensor ill put wires to other sensor to check gauge works
3. fix rev counter this is weird ive wired ign3 the blue wire to the grey aei wire but rev counter don't work done
4. fix batter light the alternator is charging but theres no light on dash
5. rework the dp as ive got a big leak at flange where it don't mate at the correct angle
6. sort hunting I think this is because ive used silicone hose on the servo pipe done
got massive water leak from the plastic bodge I made ive gone with something similar to kials but need to fit
dp is deffo at wrong angle at flange too, but now running sweet as a nut and very responsive on the throttle:)
:agree::agree: looking forward to seeing it on the road buddy, well done :agree::yeah::yeah::goodJob::burnrubber:
what a epic day again nothing has gone right tbh started at 11.30 and walked in at 7.30 so I thought I better get this water leak fixed well that didn't go well at all
went down b&q last night and got a 28mm copper t anywayz after fitting the required pipes and fitted the rad which anyone will tell you is a nightmare itself it leaked :cry:after another 3 attempts still leaking:eek::eek: I really wanted to hang mike today:ashamed: anyways after another nip to b&q for a different 28mm smooth t pipe and another 3 attempts it seems to have stopped leaking, this car is beginning to be like james it didn't like c1j being removed anywayz ive left off oil filter and ill wait to see if water stays in same position, I hope it does now....
anyways just need to do dp now which ill probably try and do Monday ready for mot Tuesday, I was going to do surrey meet in it but im not trusting it till its had more testing:agree::agree:
ill grab some pics etc when im next working on it, im not a picture whore like james and goobie as you can see from this thread lol:laugh:
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Ref: Surrey meet, I don't blame you, fair old trip for a first test run. I know you need to sort the down pipe, but that aside, how's the exhaust note/sound? :confused:
god this car keeps biting started today and its hunting again, I accidentally found out by taking the temp ecu wire off it sorted the issue but this aint a major issue as ive bypassed it atm, the problem ive got is the temp gauge on dash isn't working, away ive driven it and its very responsive few bits to do to finish now but it drives :agree:
Come on Mick, well over due update needed here........... :coffee:
yes goobs ill do shortly matey it runs etc but when mike test drove has blew a boost hose off also ive got a new rad as the valver runs to hot, but basically is should be fully on the road by the end of the month ill update with pics etc then
Goobie, it's very nearly done Mick's just got to fit the new rad and sort a boost pipe (As popped off) and it's ready to get a few hundred test miles on it then mapping again with the bigger turbo :agree: I sorted the temp sensor for ECU and dash, and played with the ecu to get it to run properly with the temp sensor on housing plugged in :-) idles very nice.Quote:
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End of next month been and gone buddy!!..... :laugh::cooter: Winning yet??? :)
good point mr goobs found out alternator aint man enough so gone for same one as james also new rad, mike drove it breifly and said it went like stink on 5psi too prob about 230horse, so im fitting them then its done, but its got a very annoying judder around 1.5/2k when hot, so needs deffo mapping and slight tidy of wiring but youll get a ride soon enough goobs:laugh:
Bit risky running about without adjusting the map isn't it. :eek:
run on bleed valve not boost controller so wont run anymore than that lol, yep will be mapped once mikes got the money think james is taking a look on judder so least it can get some miles on it:agree:
Good work Mick. :agree:
Great work Mick glad it's coming on now mate
I love the black/red decals, they really ground the car. And the 16" Turismos, it sits perfectly. :love:
Any chance of an OE grille and indicators :sos:
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Need you to fit the alternator before I have a look lolQuote:
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good this thread is busy, yh thanks guys, james maybe this week if you want to help:wasntme::wasntme:
yep need to finish it now really as it been of road long time now, decals are dark grey trev but do look good, robbies weldings holding too as its been outside the whole time:agree:
I can't do this week but next week at somepoint will be fine :agree: Get it running and do a few short drives and then go further when you feel more confident with the build. Iron out the small issue's as their are bound to be a few small issue's :DQuote:
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Wish I'd never sold that 5
The Red One?Quote:
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he means yours jim hes never owned mikesQuote:
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You comic, the white one your skinny rear now resides in.Quote:
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:D It's come a long old way since I got it off you, still more power to come from it yet :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by JRP
Looks sweet on the Speedline Turini's ;) :agree:
thanx boss yes the 16s fit ok minor mod on rear bumper but look sweet and a set of 5mm spacers on front hubs:agree:Quote:
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Update Mick, come on, slacking..........
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I popped down Micks the other week, managed to swap over the old GTT rear engine mount for a new super stiff vibratechnics jobbie, (still got the front ones to fit), exhaust manifold off for new heatwrap, downpipe off for heatwrap treatment also). The car is running Mike has driven it a few times around brighton it just needs some longer distance driving.
just got back off a quick hol and will be updating this thread very soon goobs im not a picture whore like you but ill make sure theres plenty to get you very wet ok:cooter::agree:
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:coffee: :cooter:
I've had 25 bags of popcorn waiting!:D