Harlow Motorsport Cup car

One of the original Harlow Motorsport cars was dropped off at the workshop today!

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t...y/IMG_8680.jpg

It is Roland Bratts car. Its not the original shell, but very original, 10,000 miles on the clock. Some *******s have stolen a few bits off it, but nothing replaceable. Bent the door back though. It is otherwise VERY straight - not a sign of previous repairs.
Still owned by Harlow Group.

Its in for a refurb, not sure on the extent. But it is wanted running and usable.

I'll get some pictures tomorrow.

Fantastic Sam!

Make sure you get some pictures up tomorrow!:cool:

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Originally Posted by Sam Fish

One of the original Harlow Motorsport cars was dropped off at the workshop today!

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t...y/IMG_8680.jpg

It is Roland Bratts car. Its not the original shell, but very original, 10,000 miles on the clock. Some *******s have stolen a few bits off it, but nothing replaceable. Bent the door back though. It is otherwise VERY straight - not a sign of previous repairs.
Still owned by Harlow Group.

Its in for a refurb, not sure on the extent. But it is wanted running and usable.

I'll get some pictures tomorrow.

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:cool:be good to see this.shame bout the ****s that cudnt keep there hands off the car :mad:thefin ba5tards!!!

Its still covered in finger print dust from the police. I hope they caught them!

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t...y/IMG_2052.jpg

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We have 5 complete cup cars here at the moment!

Nice :cool:

Shame it's not still in it's 'full clothes', as it was in the series. Still, it'll always be a good colour scheme!

5 Coupe's? Which ones have you got? I'm guessing this one, your one, Eugein's one.....

man, i want a coupe badge.... Sam, any knocking around? :p

got harlow stickers on my wingmirrors :)

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Originally Posted by GordonB

man, i want a coupe badge.... Sam, any knocking around? :p

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You've got to get a Coupe first :cooter: :D

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Originally Posted by The new Bill J

You've got to get a Coupe first :cooter: :D

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:laugh:...he couldnt resist......:wasntme:

Im going to suggest we replicate all the stickers. It would look great!


Mine,
Eugein's
Harlow Motorsport
The mint red one (blew the engine :()
A mint white one (Paul Lomax) - And his old written-off one.

No lonely coupe badges here, I'm short of one too.

That is a Beast...Shame Bout the **** stains who felt it neccessary too hurt her:(

Where can i find out more about her spec an history..?

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Originally Posted by The new Bill J

You've got to get a Coupe first :cooter: :D

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This ones also been reshelled :cooter:

[quote=Sam Fish;216314]Im going to suggest we replicate all the stickers. It would look great!

err , hasnt this allready been done.......:D...:laugh:..:agree:, nice to see more coupe cars on the boards, theyre a real part of the 5`s history to say the least...:)

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Originally Posted by Sam Fish

Im going to suggest we replicate all the stickers. It would look great!

err , hasnt this allready been done.......:D...:laugh:..:agree:, nice to see more coupe cars on the boards, theyre a real part of the 5`s history to say the least...:)

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Naaaaaaah matty. Im talking about all the Harlow Motorsport stickers, not just the championship ones.

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Originally Posted by jesus in the seat of a 5

Naaaaaaah matty. Im talking about all the Harlow Motorsport stickers, not just the championship ones.

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ahh i see sammy , great idea as my noir coupe was definetely a fish car me thinks...:), get on it buddy....:agree:

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Originally Posted by GordonB

This ones also been reshelled :cooter:

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Not into a raisin though :cooter: :laugh:

Sam, that sounds like quite a collection :cool:. Have you any idea of how many coupe's are left?

Getting the Harlow car back to it's best would be awesome :agree:

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Originally Posted by The new Bill J

Not into a raisin though :cooter: :laugh:

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A raisin? :coffee: :dearme::cooter::laugh:

Len Simmons from Harlow group dropped in today to see how the car is going.
The good news is he wants it looking as it was, and out racing again next year - Not just track days, but racing :agree:
His son Adam Simmons (Raced the GT Turbo's and Clio 16v cup cars, then Porsche Cup and others) is going to be driving it, so it should be fast.
In standard cup spec with a front running driver these cars where lapping Brands Indy circuit in 56 seconds (on slicks though) - compare that to the timesheets of other championships :cool:

Len said he is also a member on here, so maybe he will add something.

I'll get some pictures when there is something to show you.

Great work Sam, will be great to see another 5 back out and racing properly... Never realised that the cups were that quick in original trim... We run 56's round brands Indy in mine and Daves although that's on r888s and a damp track. Id hope on a sunny day low 55s would be very possible and on slicks maybe another second off if not more..

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Originally Posted by Sam Fish

Len Simmons from Harlow group dropped in today to see how the car is going.
The good news is he wants it looking as it was, and out racing again next year - Not just track days, but racing :agree:
His son Adam Simmons (Raced the GT Turbo's and Clio 16v cup cars, then Porsche Cup and others) is going to be driving it, so it should be fast.
In standard cup spec with a front running driver these cars where lapping Brands Indy circuit in 56 seconds (on slicks though) - compare that to the timesheets of other championships :cool:

Len said he is also a member on here, so maybe he will add something.

I'll get some pictures when there is something to show you.

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I told him about your cars and championship. Hopefully he will join you.
I have been watching lots of Dave's videos lately, have you got any?
Your cars must be rapid. Daves seems balistic off the line.

Yeah, they where surprisingly fast in cup form on slicks. They where getting alot money spent on them though - I heard of a few clutchless gearchanges, and the like. Committed stuff.

I really need to go through the old video's and get some on-board footage uploaded from VHS.

Get it into Project 8 racing saloons and join the fun !:cool2:

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Originally Posted by Sam Fish

I'll get some pictures when there is something to show you.

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Sam, can you grab me a pic of the header tank bracket please mate :D and/or see how different they are to the normal phase 1 bracket?

Yeah, I mentioned it to my Dad and he was confused - thinking they are just standard... :scratch:

Ah, I'll have to make it fit then.
Cheers :)

A few of the car finished.... Could do with stickers, but they may have to wait.
A ph2 bumper was painted (still had the tin in the cupboard!). Look alot better.

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t...y/IMG_0059.jpg

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sam , that looks ace ...soon it will be doing this aye....:D

Sam - looks very nice!

:agree:
If I could own any Renault 5 in the world, it would have to be this one, second to owning my Dads of course.

Here is a picture of my Dads looking exactly the same (after a smash I guess) and taken in the same yard...

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t...GT-_0002-2.jpg

And then one of both of them on track. My Dad likes this one as he is in front of the other team car :laugh: ...And behind is Jim Edward Jnr who went on to win the 2000 Clio cup in the Mark Fish team.... and behind him is the Radbourne car - probably your exact one Matty :agree:

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t...R5GT-_0018.jpg

Silverstone?

fantastic sam................ nice pics, amazing mine is as it was raced...:eek:..dont forget my friend replicated all the graphics inc the old mark fish logo {inside a fish} if theyre ever needed....:), keep us updated buddy...god i love cup cars....:D

Fantastic pics, even more fantastic to still have the history in the club :agree:

Awesome pics there Sam :agree: :cool:. Do you happen to know what happened to your dad's old car?

There were three of the Radbourne cars painted in that livery. I remember there being a photo of the 3 together on the old site. I think it might have been uploaded by Lomo. The drivers (in 1990 at least) were Rowan Atkinson, and Dave Cox, but I can't remember the 3rd off the top of my head. I'd have to watch the dvd, as I know it's on there.

Thanks guys.
Thanks Matty, I'll bear that in mind :agree:

Oh yeah..... there where a few Radbourne ones wherent there....

How about this for some History:
....this is the final results sheet from the race above I believe. I think the Radbourne car behind is Paul Taft (He instructed one of the Mini Race in the team last year!), and Micky Allen behind - not Jim. Jim is in the Black car behind that, with SMC on the front ;)
Bill, I think you are right, it is 1990, and now 99% sure that is Donnington first coner!

Results sheet shows a win too!
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t...9900528WIN.jpg

And one of the Truck - it would have been one of the biggest in the paddock back then - how things have changed!

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t...R5GT-_0001.jpg

Harlow Group where sponsoring my dad at the time, while he did his own prep work. Although information was obviously shared both ways.
In the 90's they became rivals

Paul Taft - That's the one :agree:

It's great to see the results sheet Sam. I've got the highlights of that race on dvd, as part of the season review. I haven't watched it for ages - I'll have to dig it out I think :D

Ah cool! We have the VHS's somewhere - hope they haven't decayed! I haven't seen the m since I was 10'ish.

All change in '91 in the Clio's. Dad now with his own branded team, being chased by Harlow's Steve Waudby (Running UK Sadev now, and pops round sometimes)

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t...o16V-_0007.jpg

In '92 and '93 Harlow group where investing serious money in the engines to develop every possible advantage - they became the engines to have - Renault noticed the team and let them run the Renault 19 touring cars after :cool:

The presence of 3 children and running other people's cars took its toll and my Dad didn't achieve the same results in the Clio's by '93.

Here is the pink one after an outing in front of Harlows now-bigger truck:

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t...V1993_0009.jpg

That FISHY numberplate is now on my race car :)

Oh, and while I am on an upload binge, here is another photo from that Donnington meeting above... the winners parade, along with the Micheline 'Man' or Boy? :laugh:
From Autosport, Dated 26.04.1990

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t...9900426PIC.jpg

And another showing off the lovely Harlow Group livery, surely the best on a Gt Turbo

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t...GT-_0007-1.jpg

Quality pics Sam :agree: I believe Dave Cox drove my car "Radbourne 1" As his name is writted in pen behind the bumpers and all the blastic trim ! :)

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Originally Posted by Kris M

Quality pics Sam :agree: I believe Dave Cox drove my car "Radbourne 1" As his name is writted in pen behind the bumpers and all the blastic trim ! :)

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gotta love the cup blastic trim.....:wasntme:

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Originally Posted by Kris M

Quality pics Sam :agree: I believe Dave Cox drove my car "Radbourne 1" As his name is writted in pen behind the bumpers and all the blastic trim ! :)

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That pretty cool to find that! ha.
I think he was their fastest driver anyway. Won the championship one year didn't he? or was that clio's?

Lively livery :D

Is that a 1.26 fastest lap around Donington I can see on that print out? Awesome.

IIRC I saw a spec'd 2006 M3 (that lightweight version) being driven expertly a few years back at a track day there and it was only doing 1.24s!

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Originally Posted by jesus in the seat of a 5

sam , that looks ace ...soon it will be doing this aye....:D

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Is that you Jeez? If so mate well proud of you, driving how its supposed to be driven!!!!!:agree:

This thread is great! I love the history of the cars and teams coming out :agree:

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Originally Posted by g10far

Is that you Jeez? If so mate well proud of you, driving how its supposed to be driven!!!!!:agree:

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its me indeed gee.....:D, car won best in show last national day at mallory...to my surprise...its the best the cars ever driven and "were luvin` it" as we say down this way...:laugh:

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its me indeed gee.....:D, car won best in show last national day at mallory...to my surprise...its the best the cars ever driven and "were luvin` it" as we say down this way...:laugh:

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Good lad, will you be out on track much next year bud?

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Originally Posted by g10far

Good lad, will you be out on track much next year bud?

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yes my good friend...my present from my wife and child this year cost them nothing.... im allowed as many track days an hillclimbs as i can afford and book...:D, what a perfect gift....:)

Loving the pics sam, keep them coming! :)

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Originally Posted by jesus in the seat of a 5

im allowed as many track days an hillclimbs as i can afford and book...

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Quoted for future reference :D ;)

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Originally Posted by jesus in the seat of a 5

yes my good friend...my present from my wife and child this year cost them nothing.... im allowed as many track days an hillclimbs as i can afford and book...:D, what a perfect gift....:)

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Couldn't ask for more mate! Well hopefully see you at some days next year then!

sam ive got some org bonnet stickers you can have:cool:

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Originally Posted by THE MASTER

sam ive got some org bonnet stickers you can have:cool:

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Have you? You mean the C.A.T. ones? or number square?
Thank you :)

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Originally Posted by Trevhib

Lively livery :D

Is that a 1.26 fastest lap around Donington I can see on that print out? Awesome.

IIRC I saw a spec'd 2006 M3 (that lightweight version) being driven expertly a few years back at a track day there and it was only doing 1.24s!

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Yeah, that's a 1:26.8. I wish I could be taken for a passenger lap at those speeds in a Gt turbo, I imagine it is 'dramatic'.
My dad always said that a quickly driven GT Turbo on slicks would usually be the quickest car on a trackday.
I bet it would be all over that M3 in the corners too!

Steve Waudby who raced the car Harlow car above said that he much preferred racing the GT turbo to the Clio 16v - even though I think he won the Clio championship..
He came round to borrow the trailer a few months ago, not realising his old car was here. He walked round the corner and was pretty shocked/happy to see it sat there!

the best picture :cool:

A Proper punch

This was in a pile of pictures about to be thrown away. They had been on the wall of a cafe at one of the circuits. My Dad went through them and found this one of him!!

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t.../R5GTturbo.jpg

I'm loving these old pictures - Keep them coming Sam :D

I do love the Harlow cars colour scheme, but this has always been my favourite:

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a71...dom/2c_1_b.jpg

As you can see, it won the Michelin Laurels Award, which (iirc) was for best dressed car. I've got this poster, and I was once tempted to paint my 5 in those colours :cool:

I found another pic as well. Does anyone recognise this chap?

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a71...0504-a-ren.jpg

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Quoted for future reference :D ;)

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:laugh:.... errr.....donnington...:laugh::wasntme:;), you geezer , youll` keep...:D;)

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Originally Posted by The new Bill J

I'm loving these old pictures - Keep them coming Sam :D

I do love the Harlow cars colour scheme, but this has always been my favourite:

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a71...dom/2c_1_b.jpg

As you can see, it won the Michelin Laurels Award, which (iirc) was for best dressed car. I've got this poster, and I was once tempted to paint my 5 in those colours :cool:

I found another pic as well. Does anyone recognise this chap?

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a71...0504-a-ren.jpg

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i reconise the chap....... and the car he just hooooooooned around in...:D

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Originally Posted by jesus in the seat of a 5

:laugh:.... errr.....donnington...:laugh::wasntme:;), you geezer , youll` keep...:D;)

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Errr, Spa? ;) Errr, Blyton? ;)

:laugh:

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Originally Posted by The new Bill J

I found another pic as well. Does anyone recognise this chap?

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a71...0504-a-ren.jpg

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Still say the club should try to get him, Coulthard, or Ragnotti to ND next year.

Edit to add: It would even be nice to see Sam's dad taking a Cup car out for a few laps around Blyton ;)

Ive got loads of quality coupe pics...Il go on an uploading spree ;):D

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Originally Posted by Kris M

Ive got loads of quality coupe pics...Il go on an uploading spree ;):D

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an a nice cd i was promised two years ago.....:laugh:...ohh the torment....:D;)

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Originally Posted by Mart

Errr, Spa? ;) Errr, Blyton? ;)

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:laugh:..you cheeky "ginger beer"...;), wait till you an becks have an ankle bitter...:laugh:... ill defo be at more next year.......:p youwait an see......:laugh::laugh::laugh:

Got loads more old ones, by fill your boots with these two pages to start ;)

https://www.rtoc.org/boards/album.php?albumid=1485

Anyone, Feel free to link any images directly to this page for any reason

nice one kris..... there she is ...no 50....:D, stonking!!!

https://www.rtoc.org/boards/album.php...pictureid=4000

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Originally Posted by g10far

Couldn't ask for more mate! Well hopefully see you at some days next year then!

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should be a good turnout of cup cars next national day:)

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the number square .. same type as in this picky

Oh yeah,
I didn't notice they where different..... A few lines and graphics deleted.
Thank you, that could be handy. I will let you know, and pay some postage etc :agree:
Thanks again

We are about to start work on a 'Harlow Sheet Metal' sponsored replica.
The mint red one is being stripped and resprayed:

PS: New facebook page will get all the updates, I will also post on RTOC:
http://www.facebook.com/markfishmotorsport

I have updated the build of the Harlow car in the Nostalgia and racing section....