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my first renault 5 gt turbo project
This is my Renault 5 GT Turbo I have just bought. I bought it as a non-runner, no MOT or tax (because I'm an idiot!). Even the interior is all unbolted and the carpet pulled out. It wouldn't even turn over, so I have replaced a lot of wiring and it now starts (just about), after not running for two or three years. So here are some photos of it and I will update my progress.
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Doesnt look too bad. Good luck with it mate :)
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I will defiantly need luck just found hole in floor pan and bulkhead lol
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chris
I will defiantly need luck just found hole in floor pan and bulkhead lol
your not the only one we are all in the same boat, even when we think out gtt is clean a good poke around will find some..
when i picked mine up it was stripped, no wings, bumpers, lights ect and look like there was minimal rot.. after building up and running for a few months i stripped it back down and tool the angle grinder to it with a wire wheel and i found loads.. sill had a hole, front drivers side was full of pin holes, 1 rear bumper mount shot to sh1t, the other with a 50p sized hole that we used a 50p to weld it up:D front strut had a hole, front slam and front inner arch..
lots to do.. i had some front sill sections so that was easy, than rather than patch i had my welding hero stitch in the pieces i trimmed to size.. looks really tidy when/where access with the welder allows..
poke around, find it and fix it.. its pretty painless, lots of prep and then get someone in to weld it up if you dont have the gear..
couple of rot pics on my profile but heres a nice one..:)
https://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.p...pictureid=4138
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I see wat u mean I just been threw of mine found some more but not to bad and I got me own welder so plenty to do how long did urs take to finish then
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chris
I see wat u mean I just been threw of mine found some more but not to bad and I got me own welder so plenty to do how long did urs take to finish then
i cut all the rot out and made nice straight lines to work off, then sat and made all the bits to fill.. these took me a few hours each as i was going for flush patches, not surface.. then carcrash off here came over and spent a couple of hours welding the pieces in.. i did the front inners myself as i need to make a piece, weld it and then make others etc that took a while..
i spent a week of evenings prepping and then a weekend sorting the rest out.. i say it like i did it all in a week, i dragged it out over about 5 months:laugh:
put the effort in and it'll look like you were never there... :)
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Just had a look at ur pictures FairPlay there a nice couple of cars I also want to make it look like I haven't been there I want to do all the welding and then hopefully I can get all the running gear sorted then take engine out and freshen up but Gota do the rubbish jobs before I can do fun stuff lol
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chris
Just had a look at ur pictures FairPlay there a nice couple of cars I also want to make it look like I haven't been there I want to do all the welding and then hopefully I can get all the running gear sorted then take engine out and freshen up but Gota do the rubbish jobs before I can do fun stuff lol
thats the way to go, get it solid and then worry about the rest... people spend thousands on these things and then one day the mot man points out a hole, then another and before you know it the feckers broken:(
best thing you can do is get involved with the local members, everyone will always help each other out and with these cars we often need it.. :D
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Ah ****, that's not good but not the end of the world, ok your gunna need to learn to weld but there are worse cars out there
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Luckily enough I am a H.G.V mechanic so can weld but so it's not bad just it's the boring bit lol but you can't build a nice house without shuvlin shi*t lol wat car have u got then have u had much trouble with urs
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take a wire wheel to the floor pan and it might clean up some of that.. the battery trays a bugger, i wonder if its easier to weld it from the top or underneath with the dash out..
i've not spent much time in a 5 with no dash..
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chris
Luckily enough I am a H.G.V mechanic so can weld but so it's not bad just it's the boring bit lol but you can't build a nice house without shuvlin shi*t lol wat car have u got then have u had much trouble with urs
An well you've got an advantage then ;)
I've got a white ph1 5 GTT, take a look at my build thread called Turbo Toaster
Had the sills go on mine which was a pain as I can't weld :(
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I just looked at ur pics I love that car FairPlay I think I am guna weld underneath and then plate to the shape of the bulkhead after I have cut every bit of rot out I think that's the only way to stop it coming back i would like to meet someone who has got a 5 just so I can have a look at finished one in the flesh but no one is local to me lol
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chris
I just looked at ur pics I love that car FairPlay I think I am guna weld underneath and then plate to the shape of the bulkhead after I have cut every bit of rot out I think that's the only way to stop it coming back i would like to meet someone who has got a 5 just so I can have a look at finished one in the flesh but no one is local to me lol
Thanks bud, it's been a hell of a slog and it just keeps going :(
Lol there's no such thing as a finished 5 ;) come to the national day at Blyton this year and you'll see plenty of nice examples
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Fair play keep at it mate keeps another on the road and restored I welded new floor plates in mine :) keep it up
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dangerous dave
take a wire wheel to the floor pan and it might clean up some of that.. the battery trays a bugger, i wonder if its easier to weld it from the top or underneath with the dash out..
i've not spent much time in a 5 with no dash..
Yea that's a good idea i will do that then I will paint inside car once all weldings done then refit interior
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Yea cheers matt I will do even it does take all my money my sanity and my girlfriend but least I will have a perfectly unrealiable 80s hot hatch lol only jokein it will be worth it in the end there really is some amazing cars on here
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I have now cut out bulkhead and have welded in a plate just Gota get some paint then the job is done next up floor pan and making point
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I have just got me new battery carrier and put it on my Newley welded bulkhead and it fits well I put some pics up tomoz and get the verdict lol
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sounds good :D floor doesnt look too bad :agree:
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No not 2 bad just Gota put jacking point in aswell so quite big job but no rush lol get it solid then get it solid then can do fun bit
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mine was similar when i got hold of it, on a positive note im pretty good at welding now :agree:
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this is my battrey tray i have just done and primerd bit slow progress as i am working alot at the moment but have also removed o/s front wing to access jacking point easyier
http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/...6/SN151422.jpg
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looking nice and solid :D
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FairPlay Tony I think that 5 of urs is really nice ur garage isn't 2 far away so if I ever get stuck then I could drop it off at urs and u could sort it out lol
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That's some work did the same to mine ,still doing it at 3 years later still at it lol keep it up :)
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That's dedication 3 years lol the harder u look the more you see that's the trouble but it will be worth it in the end are you doing all work yourself aswell
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Its best to do it the way your doing it, step by step its getting more and more solid. Thanks for the comments and if u ever need advice you can give me a ring. Looks like your doing a good job anyway :agree:
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Tony Walker
Its best to do it the way your doing it, step by step its getting more and more solid. Thanks for the comments and if u ever need advice you can give me a ring. Looks like your doing a good job anyway :agree:
No problem mate who did the roll cage in urs then and wats involved in having it done do you have to have a bare shell
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All the work is done myself ,just doing the engine now ,it's time and money plays a big part in it ,see my thread on here ,still got loads to do but like u said worth it
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Looking good mate, on with a similar project myself just a bit further down the line...
Have a look at my project THREAD, If you need any of the repair panels I've got loads of spares for sale, theres an advert somewhere on here.
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Its a safety devices cage, fitted myself, welded plates for the mounting points(as the inner sill isnt really attached to the floor by anything more than sealant) then big plates underneath the floor with big repair washers and high tensile bolts. i had the center console and seats out but the dash was still in place. if your able to do the work your doing now then your more than able to fit a cage :agree:
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so i have managed to find time to do abit on me car i have made a new floor pan new inner sill o/s fitted new jacking point and made arch repairs cleaned and stone chipped inner wings only got couple of pics as camara just broke lol
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Great work mate so nice to see hard work going back into a classic car rather than it being scraped keep it up mate it's well worth it :agree:
Phil
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Right i have some pictures of inner wings i cleaned up and painted i have finished o/s now i done floor pan os jacking point new inner and outer sill i made my own inner sill welded inside of o/s rear arch i just got rear bumper mounting points to do and n/s sill then she will be solid
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Thank you its finding the time thats the problem lol same for everyone i suppose
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so i have eventually finished sills inners and outers so really pleased was a horrible job and then the body shop man came and quoted me to do a full respray which is guna cost double what i paid for car lol so next job is engine and gearbox out
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This is coming along really well, painting costs a fortune but I'm gonna do it.. Bye bye savings.
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Good work fella, don't get dishearted by the cost of the paint, it'd been a lot worse if they had to do the welding aswell
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so had a busy day at the 5 again today it took me 6 hours to get engine out just because everything so ceized but got there in the end so heres a couple of pics
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Just been reading through this thread, impressive work :agree: :)
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Looks like a great job :agree:
Get plenty of underseal on the sills and jacking point especially at the front. and get some waxoil in the inner sills too(inside the sills)
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Cheers lads yea i will underseal it before it goes to get sprayed the biggest problem i am gunna have is sorting where all the pipes go cos alot where off when i had car
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Think were both in the same boat here mate, bout a pair of tatty tungys between us :laugh: (have a look at my build thread on here)
Hows it coming along? Looks like lots of progress made so far, looking good :agree:
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Yea its ok took gearbox off engine tonite its hard to keep a good progress when theres so many things to buy that you cant afford all in one go but see yours is comeing really well are you a mechanic or just self taught
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well done, great project read :)
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Sounds good mate. Have you got any plans for the engine while it's out? Tell me about it, there's so much I want but can't afford aswell! Yeh self taught on motorbikes then progressed onto cars, now working as a mechanic for VW :cooter:
Have you got a rust patch on both front footwells?
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I only had rust on o/s footwell but sills both side i got a t2/t25 turbo i want to cam it and change exhaust manifold nothing too mad what bout u
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What cam you planning to get? Think a 270 would run well with a t2/25 depending on boost level. I went for a full t25 with a 285 cam running @ 20psi (when it's back in).
I've got a long spec list, have a look on my profile. What's left is pretty much bodywork, planning on fitting new sills next month.
Have you done all the work yourself?
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I thought a 270
i have just stripped the engine down and the piston and liners are in a bad way 2 have scored the liners quite bad yea i do the work meself i am a truck mechanic. i hated doin the sills its so boring but its nice when you know you havent got any rot left to do are you guna tackle the sills yourself
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ah bad stuff mate, looks like your gona have to pay abit more money into it.
Yeh I was quite relieved after doing the footwell just knowing theres less rot to worry about. Nah Im not the greatest at bodywork so gona shell out for my mate to do the sills as hes done a few sets before. How long did they take you?
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It took me a few weeks cos i could only do an hour here and there but i reckon u could do a side a day if it went well i had to make new inner sills aswell
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so i have spent some time stripping my engine down today so now got a big list of things to get
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Right so not alot has happend recently because i have been saveing up. so today i sprayed my engine bay the orignal tungsten colour i am really pleased how it came out i have also got my engine parts back and will be updateing shortley on how i get on putting all back together if i can reamember lol
http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/...ginebay008.jpg
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so today i made a start on painting the engine and other little bits and getting everything ready to put together so the spec is piper 270 cam, a t2/25 turbo, big valve head ported and polished, uprated headgasket and bolts, piper valve springs, uprated clutch, lightend and balanced flywheel ,alloy rad ,alloy intercooler ,uprated starter moter all engine gaskets replaced, reconed oil pump new pistons liners ,machined crank all shells, and much more it has takein me ages to save up lol
http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/...painted002.jpg
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Great job, Love the updates:agree:
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Thankyou i spent along time welding so didnt have much to show really but the only way to be sure you dont have any rot is to take all the kit off and start again but very boring lol
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so i have done a little bit more today spent more time trying to reamember where i had put things lol but i am haveing trouble reamembering when i took oil sandwhich plate off did the fitting go in the block then sandwhich plate was there a running nut that holds the sandwhich plate or is it held tight to block by oil filter? would be grateful for any help
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What you've got there looks ok. The sandwich plate is "Sandwiched" between the filter & the block but the threaded bolt thing needs to be tightened up enough so when you remove the filter you're not loosening the sandwich from the block.
Nice work BTW!! :niceone: I love a clean engine!! :D
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Big Steve - Raider
What you've got there looks ok. The sandwich plate is "Sandwiched" between the filter & the block but the threaded bolt thing needs to be tightened up enough so when you remove the filter you're not loosening the sandwich from the block.
Nice work BTW!! :niceone: I love a clean engine!! :D
Thank you thats what i was thinking cheers
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so got gearbox and engine together and tidied up a few things then i realised i had forget to buy a turbo to manifold gasket and both rubber 45 degree pipes on turbo return to sump are knakerd so guna have to order them but all in all good progress
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so managed to put engine back in today, my full set of samcos should be here next week i have been waiting 6 weeks for them, and then my new T25 turbo should be here nxt week aswell, i cant wait i am just trying to run the wireing loom in tidy but which ever way i put it, it still looks messy its driveing me mad:mad:
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Looking great mate. Nice work.
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great stuff, you've turned yours around pretty fecking quick... i planned on taking my dash out about the time you started this and i still haven't done it.. :laugh:
oh well:cool:
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nice work matey, good to see a proper job :)
similar boat myself but far too lazy to be painting engine bay etc this time around, maybe next time I blow it up! :smokin:
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Coops
nice work matey, good to see a proper job :)
similar boat myself but far too lazy to be painting engine bay etc this time around, maybe next time I blow it up! :smokin:
Lol yea it is abit of a pain painting the engine bay. I had never done any spraying before, I just went to a paint suppliers told them what i was doing and got the paint matched i think it cost 100 includeing gun and about 3 hours prep then its done give it a go or just wait for next blow up lol. :laugh:
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half my engines back in, defo be next time now! lol! :laugh:
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Coops
half my engines back in, defo be next time now! lol! :laugh:
Being a renault theres probley guna be another chance to paint it soon :laugh:
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Looking good fella :cool:
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so dont quite abit today, had problems with new intercooler wouldnt fit so had to move bracket back but looks ok for now,still waiting on pipes so i can do breather system, and gota fit anti perc fan, and fit new turbo when it arrives and, gota work out what air filter to fit as mine came with nothing at all, anyone got any pictures of their setup or any advise on what to get?
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So done a fair bit today as the weathers good, i have changed 2 steering rack boots and track rod ends, put the anti perc fan back in, and started doing the breather system mods so its starting to look like a car again and then did some touchin up of paint work underneath.
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so after haveing found out i had the wrong gearbox in my car which i had fitted back in all painted, i had to pull it out and replace with a gt turbo gearbox :mad: but its done now, so i can start putting it back together i have finshed tighting gearbox and fitted my new T25 turbo. but i have come to put speedo sensor in gearbox, and it just sits loose in the hole is there ment to be a sleeve that sits in the hole to grip the sensor? any help would be appreciated
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there should be a little seal on the sensor and a clip bolted on the gearbox which holds the sensor in place :)
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Cheers mate i thought i was goin mad lol
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Coming along nicely m8! That's a pain with the gearbox, still at least it is right now!
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DaveMayGTT
Coming along nicely m8! That's a pain with the gearbox, still at least it is right now!
Yea was annoying lol i love that blue that you gt is painted
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so been trying to sort out hoses i got a full set of samco hoses for it now waited ages for them to come they turn up and i forgot to get juiblee clips lol oh well
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Great job ,where did you get hoses from ? Price for kit ? Thanks matt
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Great job ,where did you get hoses from ? Price for kit ? Thanks matt
I got the hoses from cgb i got every hose you can get for the engine bay for 650 plus vat and thats with my discount aswell i think. Are you thinking of getting some yourself?
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I got the hoses from cgb i got every hose you can get for the engine bay for 650 plus vat and thats with my discount aswell i think. Are you thinking of getting some yourself?
Yes I need water ,boost ,breather setup that's it
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this afternoon i have put the rest of the hoses on and it wont be long until i am ready to start engine the only problem i have is the little degassing pot i cant see where the bracket that holds it is ment to bolt to :mad:
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The bracket bolts onto the lower mounting bolt of the headlight mate ;)
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Markey Mark (BD)
The bracket bolts onto the lower mounting bolt of the headlight mate ;)
Thank you mate
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How you getting on mate? :)
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Jonny5
How you getting on mate? :)
Yea good mate sorry didnt reply sooner i am in cyprus i fly back tomoz so got rest of the week to crack on i have so many new bits waiting to go on and i gota get it running i like the speedlines you got but really like the wolfrace wheels your changeing them because u want to not because you feel like you need to comform to the norm lol
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so today i have been quiet busy i have just got back off holiday so havent done much lately. so i was determind to get something done. so i painted under the rear wheel archs replaced the rear discs with new ebc ones then i replaced the rear flexi brake hoses with goodridge stainless steel ones also had to replace a length of copper hose. fitted new apex rear shocks. and started painting all of the floor pans and boot floor. also while i waited for the paint to dry i fitted my new afr gauge so tommorow i am going to get some petrol and try starting it so hopefully it will be running tommorow hopefully lol
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Clean looking arches mate :agree:
One thing tho, isn't that shock on upside down? :scratch:
Should look like the pic below.
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Rear damper looks correct to me:agree:
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chris
Yea good mate sorry didnt reply sooner i am in cyprus i fly back tomoz so got rest of the week to crack on i have so many new bits waiting to go on and i gota get it running i like the speedlines you got but really like the wolfrace wheels your changeing them because u want to not because you feel like you need to comform to the norm lol
Dont worry mate, im doing it because its what i want :)
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:agree: it does look upside down if you flip it round and re edit the pictures no-one will ever kno ;)
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Rear damper looks correct to me:agree:
That pic is one i have provided for reference to the original post! I may be wrong tho :ashamed:
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Finch
Rear damper looks correct to me:agree:
Wrong pic i think, the dust shield should point downwards otherwise its just gonna fill with crap.
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Jonny5
That pic is one i have provided for reference to the original post! I may be wrong tho :ashamed:
:laugh: might help if i looked at the rest of thread but yeah seen what you mean with the red damper
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You made me think then as I have apex as well an yep they are on upside down.. Just been out to check..
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Nottswoody
You made me think then as I have apex as well an yep they are on upside down.. Just been out to check..
I was the same mate. Luckily i have a few reference pics saved from the rebuild :agree:
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What a nob i am lol i have just been out and looked one is the right way up and the other upside down it also helps that my mates have just turned up and pissing themselves great lol:ashamed:
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Hey no worries I'm sure we've all done worse.. I reversed while the back was still on the jack.. Thankfully the spare wheel saved it from going through the floor :)
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chris
What a nob i am lol i have just been out and looked one is the right way up and the other upside down it also helps that my mates have just turned up and pissing themselves great lol:ashamed:
Easily done mate, like woody says wouldnt worry :agree:
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Nottswoody
Hey no worries I'm sure we've all done worse.. I reversed while the back was still on the jack.. Thankfully the spare wheel saved it from going through the floor :)
Lol but you didnt put a picture up on the owners club lol oh well
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chris
Lol but you didnt put a picture up on the owners club lol oh well
He should have done :laugh: :laugh:
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So got up early today and set about retimeing the distributor up. and then found the fuel pump realay sticking thanks to the advise of the members on here. and it started it will only run on choke at the moment the afr gauge reads 14.9 for 30 seconds and then cant settle then goes up and down like mad. so after i retorque head and do tappets i will try setting it up but as always thanks to everyone who helped. also how do you upload a video?
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stick it in a photobucket account with a link
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progress has been slow lately but front suspension is on along with braided barke lines so now i have just gota sort running issue's is the idle jet the one thats a big flat screw head ? as always thanks for help
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New poster! (less than 10 posts)
What a fantastic project, well done
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Benjibrady
New poster! (less than 10 posts)
What a fantastic project, well done
thank you mate
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so today bled the brakes again after a bleed nipple snapped in my rear brake caliper:mad: and then manged to get the rest of the underneath painted also fitted my new exhaust system so really am getting there now
http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/...exhaust003.jpg
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Also i have got it to tickover but afr readings are15.5 i have searched but cant find what the ideal should be
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14.7 is optimum. But if it's leaner and idles fine then that's better. 15 ish is good :-) if it idles fine at that then leave it
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13.9 Will be an mot pass, some camshafts aren't keen on a lean idle;)
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Its got a piper 270 and i havent adjusted anything on carb since rebuild and it was standerd before
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I can't speak from experiance with that camshaft but 14,s should be ok, it's all mostly by ear anyways, as long as it idle's sweet and is above 13.9 your fine:)
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Ok cheers for advise lads
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so today after work i went to a stainless steel place and got a piece of pipe so i could exstend my air filter into the postion where the header tank used to be i am pleased with how it looks and i have enough pipe left to make another one if anybody wants it they can have it
http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/...rfilter001.jpg
what it looks like off car
http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/...rfilter003.jpg
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Nice!! :agree: hey Chris your not going to leave the expansion tank next to the turbo are you bud? I maybe wrong but that's surely not the best place to have that.. If your going to move the tank you want it all the way over on the passenger side were the frenchies batterie should go.. Correct me if I'm wrong guys??
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hi mate it should be fine the turbo heat shield is there i have seen loads with it there and trouble is i dont want to cut bulkhead to run pipes :)
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chris
Looks good you just need to make a shield for it ajd a nice cold air feed
https://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.p...pictureid=6927
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thanks j tec i thought about makeing a shield but just not that keen on how they look i think it should be ok with just a cold air feed i know it wont be as good
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My header tanks been in that position for years, never had an issue, it was mentioned that the matrix hoses ran close to the turbo but no closer really than the turbo coolant pipes. I have never had a heat Shield either.
I was thinking about moving it to the scuttle and really simplifying the coolant circut but I just couldn't be arsed, it works fine as it is:laugh:
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Thats ok then i thought i had seen it done before i just cut the original header tank bracket up and put it in place of the airbox holder so i didnt have to drill anymore holes i have spent the last 11 months welding holes up lol
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GTphil
My header tanks been in that position for years, never had an issue, it was mentioned that the matrix hoses ran close to the turbo but no closer really than the turbo coolant pipes. I have never had a heat Shield either.
I was thinking about moving it to the scuttle and really simplifying the coolant circut but I just couldn't be arsed, it works fine as it is:laugh:
In that case I'm moving mine there when the engines out over Xmas .. You see that's what rtoc is all about good ideas and great knowledge and advice.. :agree: I don't have a heat shield either I was just worried at how hot it got in there.. What sort of place would I get the stainless from? It's just I would love to re do my pipe work while I have the engine out to get it all done at once..
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Nottswoody
In that case I'm moving mine there when the engines out over Xmas .. You see that's what rtoc is all about good ideas and great knowledge and advice.. :agree: I don't have a heat shield either I was just worried at how hot it got in there.. What sort of place would I get the stainless from? It's just I would love to re do my pipe work while I have the engine out to get it all done at once..
what about fitting a turbo blanket/beanie instead of a headshield? I have just fitted one, although not had a proper test, it seems good so far- I can touch it without melting my finger tips :laugh:
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Yea thats a possibilty where did you get yours from tubby g
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This is the one I bought
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/vie...d=271042437997
Bood pointed me towards it... :D
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So done a couple of jobs today, flushed out the cooling system and filled with antifreeze, toped up all the levels again, made a support bracket for the air filter and was going to fit some extra gauges but need some fittings, also touched up some paint work under the archs and my black 90 degree hose turned up so all the pipes are black now. so the engine bay is pretty much finished so thanks to everyone who has helped me with this stage of restoration. i have a bloke comeing tommorow to quote for respray because the original lad let me down but feel as tho the end is in site now.
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cars coming on great.
like has been said the turbo jacket is good.
pm sent ;)
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Looking good mate :agree:
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Cheers jonny got a long way until its near urs
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Coming together nicely mate:agree:
I also had my header tank in the same place for years with no problems, no turbo heatshield either:)
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so tonite i decided to get it out of way and do heater matrix .so i have got it out wasnt too bad as the interior is out of my car, and i have took windsreen out so not to bad, but there was still plenty of swearing i will put it back together tommorow i want to sort some wireing out behind dash
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It's coming on now mate, good work :agree:
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Top darts mate , what did you ain't arches with :)
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Oh and forgot to say thanks to james 5 who put the link up for a how 2 guide without it i think i would of gone mad because haynes is crap
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gtmatt
Top darts mate , what did you ain't arches with :)
Alrite matt do you mean what did i paint archs with lol if so 2 coats of black hammerite also did all the floor pans and boot floor and bottom arms everything 2 coats lol horrible job and makes me very sad lol
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chris
Alrite matt do you mean what did i paint archs with lol if so 2 coats of black hammerite also did all the floor pans and boot floor and bottom arms everything 2 coats lol horrible job and makes me very sad lol
Looks well shiney was it satin one ??? Looks well mate
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yea satin mate takes forever but its anything to keep rust away just make sure that you get it clean and dry what you up on urs mate
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chris
yea satin mate takes forever but its anything to keep rust away just make sure that you get it clean and dry what you up on urs mate
Thanks Chris
Just finished my engine , you see my thread ..? Keep up the good work mate :)
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No i aint mate you got a link
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chris
No i aint mate you got a link
There u go mate
https://www.rtoc.org/boards/showthread.php?t=4338
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so today has been a nightmare i have repaired and replaced wireing behind dash and got heater matrix in and dash back in and tidy gota be honest it was a struggle but got there in the end also got my gauges wired up and plumbed in so got there in the end
old one and new one
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and dash back in with gauges fitted
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Will be a sweet gtt when done mate:agree:
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Cheers mate much appreciated
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done abit more today i have prepped my boot lid and painted inner edges the rest will be done at bodyshop also painted the lower panal under boot and painted the new bumper mounts that were welded on so i am quite pleased with what i manged to get done today
http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/...painted003.jpg
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Work looks spot on mate.
Will be a great 5 when finnished :agree:
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How you gettin on with urs mate
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chris
How you gettin on with urs mate
Currently its in bits, all bodykit taken off to assess for repair plus have also stripped out all the interior.
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Great work mate :agree:
Did the same with the inner boot on mine!
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SALTY_BLADE
Currently its in bits, all bodykit taken off to assess for repair plus have also stripped out all the interior.
How much damage did they do when they took car
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Jonny5
Great work mate :agree:
Did the same with the inner boot on mine!
Cheers mate its booked in for respray now the lad came round tonite and gave me the qoute and i accepted so still got loads to do before its ready
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chris
How much damage did they do when they took car
They bent the door open, so thats scrap, smashed steering collum - also scrap. Basically I need to go through all the electrics as well as nothing works at the moment. However battery could be flat.
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SALTY_BLADE
They bent the door open, so thats scrap, smashed steering collum - also scrap. Basically I need to go through all the electrics as well as nothing works at the moment. However battery could be flat.
Thats really **** mate the basterds should be strung up i just had the dash out of mine and everything is working so if u need to ring me and we can work it out the wireing should be the same on both
07582131816
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Well done mate looks well how did you paint tail gate looks ace
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Well i bought tailgate off mike just stripped it wet and dryed it and i bought a gravity fed gun earlier this year was on offer for 35quid i aint no painter but was dead chuffed oh and i bought a mask
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chris
Well i bought tailgate off mike just stripped it wet and dryed it and i bought a gravity fed gun earlier this year was on offer for 35quid i aint no painter but was dead chuffed oh and i bought a mask
You got a compressor etc ? Looks a good finish
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Yea i am a truck mechanic so already had compressor and that must be beginers luck i did my engine bay aswell have a look couple of pages back
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Had a couple of hours free this afternoon, so fitted ns front wing which lined up great i was worried as i had put sills on but all good also fitted my new tailgate.
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http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/...efitted001.jpg
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i have just bought this today and its in mint condition :)
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coming along really well mate.
love the bonnet :agree::agree:
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Really like the carbon bonnet :agree:
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managed to go pick these up today cant wait to get the car painted now
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Looking forward to seeing this completed. Looks really sweet mate. Nice one
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some really great work gone into this, which is great to see. cant wait to see the end result :) keep it up :agree:
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Havent done much lately due to work and strugglin to keep up the enthusiasm for it at the moment:( but its still booked in for paint so hopefully once its painted that should give me abit more intrested i have striped out bulkhead tonite and will probley paint it tommorow
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So got bulkhead prepped and primed today and did some to the engine side of bulkhead that i scratched putting engine back in hopefully i can top coat it tommorow
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Looks great Chris think I may give mine a blow over while its out.. Did it take much work? Iv never painted anything but I may just have a go :)
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looking good mate :agree: all about the black samcos :cooter:
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Nottswoody
Looks great Chris think I may give mine a blow over while its out.. Did it take much work? Iv never painted anything but I may just have a go :)
I aint painted anything before either you just gota spend time prepping it i can lend you the spray gun if you want mate and then when you go to paint shop ask them what ratio you have to mix paint to you could do it easy in a day or prime it at night and top coat it in morning
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w35ty
looking good mate :agree: all about the black samcos :cooter:
Thanks mate need more than a few samcos to catch you up lol my new front mount turned up today so mite see if i can fit that this weekend
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Nottswoody
Looks great Chris think I may give mine a blow over while its out.. Did it take much work? Iv never painted anything but I may just have a go :)
Be very careful. Painting is notoriously difficult to get right. :)
Do some testing and practice on scrap parts that you can throw away and then only do bits of your car that are hidden, or in really bad nick. If it looks like you're half decent at it, then have a go at exterior panels after that.
DJ might have some tips :agree:
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Trevhib
Be very careful. Painting is notoriously difficult to get right. :)
Do some testing and practice on scrap parts that you can throw away and then only do bits of your car that are hidden, or in really bad nick. If it looks like you're half decent at it, then have a go at exterior panels after that.
DJ might have some tips :agree:
Yea its a bit gutting if you have to start again because you have made a mess of it i just get as much advise off the paint shop lads as possible and it has came out allrite i wouldnt want to do outside i will leave that to the pros lol
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managed to finsh painting today its come out well pictures are not the best the hardest part was to try and get garage warmed up enough to paint
http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/...ps118cbf42.jpg
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Cracking on bud looks great :)
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Like the effort in this weather :agree:
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great work so far Chris.. look forward to seeing it in the flesh :)
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cheers mate how you getting on with bajjer
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getting there slowly mate.. my toolbox at work is rammed with parts awaiting to be fitted :laugh:
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good effort there mate, coming together nicely :agree:
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Looks good :agree: am impressed with your paint work too. Top job
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Cant wait to see this finished :agree:
Bet you're itching to get all the new parts fitted.
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Thanks mate need more than a few samcos to catch you up lol my new front mount turned up today so mite see if i can fit that this weekend
itll all get there in the end mate.. no need to rush :agree:
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Finished the bulk head off today and i am pleased how it has turned out. also got all the bodykit and all plastics ready to go to the painter tonite so slowly getting there :). i am waiting on parts now then i can tidy all the pipework and wireing on the engine.
http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/...psaaa48756.jpg
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Had a rare day off today so have manged to do quite alot i plumbed in my gauges (oil and AFR) had to get a new AFR lead from scoff because i cut mine in half:ashamed:.Heat wrapped and fitted my one piece down pipe that liam made me and fitted my side exit exhaust still loads to do before its ready for paint but getting there.
http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/...ownpipe004.jpg
http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/...ownpipe002.jpg
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looking really good pal, its coming together well.
get yourself a nice turbo jacket for that turbo :smokin:
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So today i took my back windows out and the window rubbers i am really annoyed with myself because its well known that they go there and i hadnt checked till now and its going for paint soon can you buy repair panels for it?
http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/...nds001.jpg</a>
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Eventually finished welding today even ended up haveing to cut some rott out on o/s inner arch and put a new plate in but got there in the end and skimmed exsternal plates on window frames with filler ready for respray
http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/...epaired010.jpg
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So got the car out of the garage for the first time in a while and drove it for the first time down my drive and onto a recovery truck :laugh: its going for paint but my girlfriend kindly pointed out it looks like its going for scrap:eek: i can see all my hard work is paying off :laugh:
http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/...orpaint006.jpg
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how long will it be at the bodyshop for Chris? I love fresh paint piccies :crush:
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Should have it back april mate cant wait
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how long will it be at the bodyshop for Chris? I love fresh paint piccies :crush:
:agree:
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'looks like its going for scrap' lol!:laugh:
Itl seem like a long wait, im still waiting for bodyshop to make room for mine! grrrr
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I know mine was ment to go at christmas bodyshops never rush mind you i think it will be worth it he has got his work cut out on mine looks like its been left on a driveing range and used as target practice
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I know mine was ment to go at christmas bodyshops never rush mind you i think it will be worth it he has got his work cut out on mine looks like its been left on a driveing range and used as target practice
Bahahaha!
It'll be excellent once it comes back mate. Ready for the summer?
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Yea i am guna try get it to national day but it will be tight i want to get it run in and engine setup really and then get interior back in which will be a nightmare as i didnt take it out and i am changeing jobs so its finding time but were all in the same boat. When recovery truck got it i was pleased to see back of it :laugh:
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The finish line is in sight mate :agree:
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I went to see how the painter is getting on with my car. And i am really pleased it looks great, all the plastics are done and he has got rid of the exhaust exit and you wouldn't even know it was there it looks stunning:)
http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/...6/SAM_0239.jpg
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Yeah mate looking really good!! Get Rid of the morettes ;)
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Looking good bud well done what completion date you heading for?
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I am hopeing to be able to get it to national day it mite not be run in by then but still be nice to take it to an event
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looking forward to seeing the completed results, really like this build :smokin:
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Umm fresh paint, looking great fella
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Thanks mate did you get your bolt out in the end
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So i got it back yesterday from spray shop and its now in my garage at home i think it looks amazing sorry about rubbish pictures i cant get it out of garage yet
http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/...6/SAM_0252.jpg
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Looks nice and fresh mate:):agree:
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Looking good, this is the best bit putting nice freshly painted things back on. Just don't chip it:eek: looking forward to more pics:coffee: oh and got the bolt out:ashamed: didn't see the reply:D
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Thanks lads i am freightend to touch it now incase i scratch it
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Are you putting oe graphics back on? Looks really well. You will have fun this month putting the car back together
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SALTY_BLADE
Are you putting oe graphics back on? Looks really well. You will have fun this month putting the car back together
Yes mate i am guna have a set off topcat and his boyfreind scotty. I am not guna be able to do much as just moved house and got loads to do also doin the front garden and the skip has been dropped in front of garage and cant get the car out :mad:
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A skip in front of the up side down skip:D
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I have had that allday "make sure they take the skip and not your car" ;)
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looks quality mate :agree: bet your well chuffed with how its turned out:D quite jealous of the fresh paint
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looks quality mate :agree: bet your well chuffed with how its turned out:D quite jealous of the fresh paint
Jealous of any paint aren't u???
Michael Jackson wrote a song about this car.
Filler- Filler night!!!
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:laugh: filler or not.... looks great :D
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Ha ha now you are ruining my project thread because of your jealously and yes if you must know theres alot of filler in there at least filler doesnt rust .Mind you topcat yours is practicly a fiberglass shell :laugh:
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Ha ha now you are ruining my project thread because of your jealously and yes if you must know theres alot of filler in there at least filler doesnt rust .Mind you topcat yours is practicly a fiberglass shell :laugh:
He bit ;) ha. In all seriousness mate its looking mighty good. Should be proud of your efforts :agree:
Dave- home of witty banter
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rust filler and fibreglass all the things that keep fives alive :D hahaha
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Yea really pleased i took the pics to show me dad i couldnt of done it without him :agree:
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Yea really pleased i took the pics to show me dad i couldnt of done it without him :agree:
Good stuff mate. Bet he's happy it's turned out that well!
Hope he gets better soon fella.
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you will both be rolling around in it in no time :burnrubber:
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Looking fresh mate :agree:
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Chrissy babe it looks superb mate. I'm up shrew soon, she gonna be ready in may?
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Chrissy babe it looks superb mate. I'm up shrew soon, she gonna be ready in may?
I doubt it will be ready in may but you will have to come round and have a look mate i want to get all the bodykit on this week then just put interior in and get some wheels MOT and TAX then drive it for the first time
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I doubt it will be ready in may but you will have to come round and have a look mate i want to get all the bodykit on this week then just put interior in and get some wheels MOT and TAX then drive it for the first time
Exciting times! What wheel u going for? Gt some standard ones with rubber if u want them
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I dont know what wheels yet mate not standerd 15" something scotty will probably sell me something the way he buys and sells wheels :laugh:
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I dont know what wheels yet mate not standerd 15" something scotty will probably sell me something the way he buys and sells wheels :laugh:
No doubt lol. Get in a van and pop down for bits, get all the stuff from Scott and have a bev
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Does sound like a good idea how long does it take mate?
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Does sound like a good idea how long does it take mate?
3 1/2 hours from here shag
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Oh thats not bad at all then
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check out the tungy beast!!! looks fresh outside:D i may have a set of wheels ;) you seen the ph 1 zenders???? painted sparkling silver/moondust silver on a tungy now theres an image!!!!!
3 1/2hours is a mission but be good to meet:agree:
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I have seen them on wheel whores there black at the mo aint they have you bought them? i did fancie some 15" pireli p slots i do fancie something abit diffrent i thinl wheel choice can make or break a car
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I have seen them on wheel whores there black at the mo aint they have you bought them? i did fancie some 15" pireli p slots i do fancie something abit diffrent i thinl wheel choice can make or break a car
well thinking about selling my ph2 zenders to buy the ph1`s lol et 30 15x7 just so you know lol :laugh:
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I like the phase 2's but there big money aint they
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I like the phase 2's but there big money aint they
just a tad . im open to offers. look epic. black with polished fronts mmmmmmmmmm
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just a tad . im open to offers. look epic. black with polished fronts mmmmmmmmmm
If these are the ones I saw earlier they look the balls
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If these are the ones I saw earlier they look the balls
yea there the ones. only cause i want ph1`s im thinkin about selling. and cheers dave :agree:
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Pm me a rough price i aint got any idea on what there worth scotty. Any pics mate
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only pic i have . will get some tomorrow. :agree:
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They are just stunning wheels
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Managed to get time to trim crossmember and fit my new forge cooler looks :smokin:
http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/...6/SAM_0266.jpg
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I have just been doin the pipe run on my new forge front mount intercooler and i am really disapointed the pipe run is rubbish some of the 90 degree bends you have to cut approximatly 3/4" of and thats the words the instructions use i wanted a proper kit as i thought it would fit nice and look good it doesnt at all i am really angry it cost alot of money. Some of the homemade kits look amazeing on here and a large companey like forge cant manage the same :mad:
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I have just been doin the pipe run on my new forge front mount intercooler and i am really disapointed the pipe run is rubbish some of the 90 degree bends you have to cut approximatly 3/4" of and thats the words the instructions use i wanted a proper kit as i thought it would fit nice and look good it doesnt at all i am really angry it cost alot of money. Some of the homemade kits look amazeing on here and a large companey like forge cant manage the same :mad:
Scccceeeeerreeewwwwiiiinnnn!!!
Is there no way u can make an alloy and silicone pipe work mate? What kinda pressures u run the car on by the way?
Looks like u done a good job mounting it.
Better than u mount most things anyway from what I've heard
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cant go wrong mounting a forge cooler, all the holes are there already. just as said the pipe run is a pain. stick with it tho chris:agree: be worth it :D if i was gona run a front mount again i would like something like marks ginger five`s cooler. look mint :agree: i wanted my one hiden under the bumper so went universal in the end with ash hoses.
the tungy is looking good mate, keep it up
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Scccceeeeerreeewwwwiiiinnnn!!!
Is there no way u can make an alloy and silicone pipe work mate? What kinda pressures u run the car on by the way?
Looks like u done a good job mounting it.
Better than u mount most things anyway from what I've heard
i aint that bad at mounting ask your mrs :laugh: i dont know what pressure i will be at i have never driven the car
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cant go wrong mounting a forge cooler, all the holes are there already. just as said the pipe run is a pain. stick with it tho chris:agree: be worth it :D if i was gona run a front mount again i would like something like marks ginger five`s cooler. look mint :agree: i wanted my one hiden under the bumper so went universal in the end with ash hoses.
the tungy is looking good mate, keep it up
yea i went forge because i wanted a neat kit but really regret it i have emailed them and waiting for a reply yea marks is a nice looking set up
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Fitted cold side of intercooler pipe work today and have orderd some more hoses to improve forges poor attempt at makeing a front mount kit :laugh:
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Mate that's shocking that Forge have such a pony pipe run :/
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And the kit says that it comes with samcos and it doesnt :mad:
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And the kit says that it comes with samcos and it doesnt :mad:
Where did you order it from bud? Very poor for an off the shelf kit, Ive seen how much they are aswell :eek: you should try and get some money back mate
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Where did you order it from bud? Very poor for an off the shelf kit, Ive seen how much they are aswell :eek: you should try and get some money back mate
I know like £400 i am gutted got it direct from them i have emailed because no one answeard its just such a poor fit and i have to cut hoses as per instructions i wanted it because thought it would fit nice
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Hate to say it mate but the f*cking **** quality... For a bolt on kit there shocking... So much easier to buy Chinese crap of eBay and make ur own to suit :(
I would complain and demand a refund due to being mis sold...
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Thats what I put in email I could of made my own up better I also said I have been sold somthing thats not fit for purpose its just ridiculous even the instructions are rubbish lol
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Thats what I put in email I could of made my own up better I also said I have been sold somthing thats not fit for purpose its just ridiculous even the instructions are rubbish lol
Bad workmen blame their tools...
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Hate to say it mate but the f*cking **** quality... For a bolt on kit there shocking... So much easier to buy Chinese crap of eBay and make ur own to suit :(
I would complain and demand a refund due to being mis sold...
I would complain too mate it's p*ss poor pal
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Bad workmen blame their tools...
Lol I would have sed the same but I have heard alot of bad things about this kit, and for the money they want shooting! Lol
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I always expected forge to be good quality products. Likewise, I'd expect an off the shelf 'kit' to fit without modification other than to the crossmember.
Let us know what forges response is Chris.
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Lol I would have sed the same but I have heard alot of bad things about this kit, and for the money they want shooting! Lol
Bahahaha. Chris loves it (up him)
But on a serious not Forge should be ashamed. Where is their head office?
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Bad workmen blame their tools...
Your the tool topcat :laugh: any chance i can have my old intercooler back??????
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Bahahaha. Chris loves it (up him)
But on a serious not Forge should be ashamed. Where is their head office?
I feel like forge have had me pants down and bummed me :laugh:
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Your the tool topcat :laugh: any chance i can have my old intercooler back??????
Yeah mate if u need it u can have it bk.
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Bahahaha. Chris loves it (up him)
But on a serious not Forge should be ashamed. Where is their head office?
Lol talking Intercoolers wot is everyone else using for front mounts, The universal kits? Sorry for posting this i your thread Chris
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Andyturbo!
Lol talking Intercoolers wot is everyone else using for front mounts, The universal kits? Sorry for posting this i your thread Chris
Dont worry forge ruined my thread andy :laugh: that and topcat and his lover scotty :laugh:
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Yeah mate if u need it u can have it bk.
No dont worry mate i want a front mount just a nice one
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Dont worry forge ruined my thread andy :laugh: that and topcat and his lover scotty :laugh:
Hahaha nice one mate:agree:
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Dont worry forge ruined my thread andy :laugh: that and topcat and his lover scotty :laugh:
Says the chap who's planning to "pay Scotty a visit" in a week or two...
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Says the chap who's planning to "pay Scotty a visit" in a week or two...
And you at the same time :laugh:
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And you at the same time :laugh:
Ooooooh sir!
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sh*t me just read this!!! bumming weekend ladies lol :laugh: is a shame bout the cooler mate but stick with it :agree: pm on the wheels:D
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You thought about a chargecooler Chris? That's what I plan on getting for the phase 1
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You thought about a chargecooler Chris? That's what I plan on getting for the phase 1
I rang pace where really helpful but dont do off the shelf kit anymore but can make one for over a grand :eek:
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I rang pace where really helpful but dont do off the shelf kit anymore but can make one for over a grand :eek:
ouch maybe not then . get the parts seperately. im sure someone on here made a decent setup from buying bits from an ebay company???
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I rang pace where really helpful but dont do off the shelf kit anymore but can make one for over a grand :eek:
Pace charge coolers are sh*t to... PWR all the way... Plenty of DIY charge cooler info on the boards..
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Yea i like the idea but its the time and effort sourceing bits is there many in club with chargecoolers i could have a look at ???
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Pace charge coolers are sh*t to... PWR all the way... Plenty of DIY charge cooler info on the boards..
I will have a look thanks chris and guna google chargeloor versus intercooler
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Yea i like the idea but its the time and effort sourceing bits is there many in club with chargecoolers i could have a look at ???
I run one mate never had any issues works perfect on hard boost and charge temps is 34% max I have ever seen on my own set up mate
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Can you depress me with some pics of it in your perfect engine bay please phil :laugh: your engine bay is better than my whole car
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Pm Duncain Grier about charge coolers... He was very anal when choosing/setting them up.. Made all sorts of flow rate charts up :))
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Pm Duncain Grier about charge coolers... He was very anal when choosing/setting them up.. Made all sorts of flow rate charts up :))
Thanks mate will pm him also hopefully phil will put a pic so i can get idea of what its like in the bay
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Can you depress me with some pics of it in your perfect engine bay please phil :laugh: your engine bay is better than my whole car
Here are some pics of mine mate mounted in the scuttle keeps it very cool the first pic is when it was on carb the rest when it was efi'd hope it helps
http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/a...1C95AF7FF3.jpg
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Any excuse at phil:cooter:
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Thanks phil that looks really good and where its mounted is a good pipe run. And what a stunning engine bay :agree:
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Thanks phil that looks really good and where its mounted is a good pipe run. And what a stunning engine bay :agree:
Thanks mate the water pipes also run between the inner and outer passenger wing so pipe work is kept cool then comes into the scuttle straight on to the c/cooler
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Thats a good idea was it difficult to fit?
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Rite I have just spoken to forge and they have been brilliant and really helpful I am going to send them pictures and they are going to work with me I will keep you updated on whats going on but so far they have been very good
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Thats a good idea was it difficult to fit?
The pump rad and pipes were easy to fit but I had to get work done on the cooler to make it fit in the scuttle mate this was because I dine away with the filler bottle and has it built straight into the main tank
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The pump rad and pipes were easy to fit but I had to get work done on the cooler to make it fit in the scuttle mate this was because I dine away with the filler bottle and has it built straight into the main tank
Thanks for that phil i am goin to see what happens with forge before i make a decision :agree:
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well today i managed to get a rare chance to work on my car and my mate came round and lent a hand its really come on all bumpers and archs and lights are on and i think its looking really good well chuffed
http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/...ault5067-1.jpg
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sweeeeeeet :D:agree:
:laugh: cheers scotty
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Wow :) love those morettes and smoked indicators :agree:
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looking tidy mate:smokin:
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cheers lads just got to get some ducts for the morrettes. I think the back bumper having exhaust cut out flushed out is one of my favourite bits:) makes the rear symmetrical
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New poster! (less than 10 posts)
Fair play, really inspiring post, great work!
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New poster! (less than 10 posts)
Fair play, really inspiring post, great work!
Thanks mate its been abit of a slog without the help on here i think i would of given up. You have just joined then have you got a project?
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Been doing loads of tidying up of engine bay and so on and got bonnet fitted i am pleased with how it looks:) its going to forge motersport tomorrow
http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/...6/SAM_0364.jpg
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That looks really nice Chris and tbh I think the campus grill looks smart, what are you getting from forge tomorrow then? :cool:
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Your 5 is looking tough as hell mate. I like the campus grill- prefer em
To the gt turbo one
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I have kept my eye out for a gt one but no joy but yea i think it looks good. Its going to forge to have the intercooler sorted because i am not happy with it but they have been great about it
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I have kept my eye out for a gt one but no joy but yea i think it looks good. Its going to forge to have the intercooler sorted because i am not happy with it but they have been great about it
Cool ok well I hope they get it fixed for you buddy, I was thinking of getting a gt turbo grill for my project, but I think ill stick with the campus one as well :)
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good stuff :agree:
Why do you not have 2 days of constant rain which I have here LOL
Nice trailer although from experiance of using the space shuttle ones dont half drag a lot more than open ones. And worried it was going to get stolen all the time lol
Should be a cracking car when finished
DG
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well I haven't updated this thread lately due to my dad having a stroke and lots of other things I kind of lost enthusiasm as he was the one helping me do the car. but I have managed to start chipping away at it again and hopefully I am not to far away from finishing also mike at gt turbo spares has been extremely helpful as has scotty and Dan {R5 beatty} so big thanks to you guys:agree:. so I have managed to put the half cage in and all the interior and all the glass is back in. in time I will replace the front seats but for now its more than manageable so heres a couple of pics where I am up to nowhttp://http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/...enault5193.jpg
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Hope your dad makes a quick recovery m8! Car looks really good.
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Cheers mate appreciate it
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Looking the bollocks now pal anythin else u need a hand on just give me a shout can't wait to get mine back now and make a start..(hey just noticed buy sorry to say that's a campus grill pal) ha ha :)
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Ha ha I hate you. Wheres your project thread mate get it on here
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I will do pal when I get a few hours spare yours looking really good now keep at it and get it finished so you can take me out init :)
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I wouldn't be seen dead with you mate :laugh: but definitely cant wait to get it done
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Sorry to hear about your dad hope he is ok
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I haven't updated this thread in a while. but i have still been busy tidying things up. i have fitted a new strut brace sorted some issues i had with wireing also got my new wheels machined and fitted i am really pleased how it looks. Had the bonnet resprayed again due to me dropping it so that was an expensive mistake. now next is some number plates and sort the ride height out and then off to mot :yeah:
http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/...6/SAM_0525.jpg
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:niceone: she's looking lovely keep it up fella.
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Love them wheels matey :)
What are they?
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Those wheels are rock hard! Awesome. Are they Zenders?
Once it's lowered at the front a bit more this will look fantastic. Crying out for an OE grille tho. :agree:
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Thanks for comments guys its been a long slog. And yes trev you got it in one there phase 2 zender turbos :)
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Looking mint now mate! Loving it :smokin:
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Looking at your 5 really makes me think twice about colour choice! Looks great. :agree:
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Great updates and love the zenders!!
All the best for your dads recovery also
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Well hello sexy...:)
Looking amazing mate all that hard works paying off!
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Thanks for comments guys:)
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It's been a little while since I updated my thread been busy with work and other peoples cars so mine just sat in garage. But this weekend I dragged it out the garage and took it for MOT. Which it then failed because the horn stuck on :laugh:. So I sorted that and then he passed it so all good. I have also changed the headlights back to original and I am pleased I did. I have put a few miles on it now but today it started going really lean on part throttle but I suspect it's just crap in carb nothing too serious. I will put some pics up of it at test station and at home with new headlights:)
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Niceone mate, good work! another one back on the road, - roll on summer :agree: :)
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Brilliant stuff chris :niceone:
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Tell them about the 'cat' test :laugh::laugh::laugh:
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Tell them about the 'cat' test :laugh::laugh::laugh:
Yes they also wanted to know why I had removed the catalytic converter as they were trying to understand while it was failing emissions.:scratch:
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Lovely, credit to you for making this 5 so lovely again! Hope to do similar to mine this year!
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Looks sweet on the zender's. Just keep it and enjoy in summer. Everybody wants to sell up in the crap weather lol.
Ps do away with that plastic inline filter to the carb, its for low pressure use. Could go tits up on boost and game over.
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Don't sell it mate. You need at least one summer of enjoying it. Stop being a pussy and keep it.
Looks tip top Tyrone. You'll regret selling it.
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Re: my first renault 5 gt turbo project
No point in selling until you've had some use out of it mate.
Wait till summer comes and we get some road trips done, then you'll be pleased you never got rid. There's a reason I've had these cars for the last 14 years you know ;)
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Re: my first renault 5 gt turbo project
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Brigsy
Looks sweet on the zender's. Just keep it and enjoy in summer. Everybody wants to sell up in the crap weather lol.
Ps do away with that plastic inline filter to the carb, its for low pressure use. Could go tits up on boost and game over.
Yea that's true I am running the little filter for a short time it's only on low boost still running the engine in kept getting crap in carb but I changed the filter and that has stayed clean so probably could remove it now:)
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Re: my first renault 5 gt turbo project
Don't sell up its lovely. Like has been said rubbish weather always makes the mind think bad thoughts god knows mine does but give it a wash and polish even if it doesn't need it that normally gets me back on the right track.