Tungy- glacier white restoration

Hi everyone, well I am now a year into this and car goes off tomorror for welding on sill and minor other bits that need doing, then its down to good old elbow grease to start rubbing down in preperation for paint, I think I have decided on glacier white ?? (can any one tell me if its paint code 389 and is it 2pac or celluose)
I may keep it tungy if there is a majority vote:laugh:
I have done loads of work on sub assy and everything and I mean everything will be fully refurbed before rebuild, all axles have been powder coated and everything that used to shine has been re=plated inc zinc yellow passivate. I will add photos as it progresses ( I currently have about 300 though) :crap:

All thoughts listened to and appreciated, John.

Good luck chum:cool:

I may well need it matey, I have two r5gtt in the past and I cant live without one so it will take a while, but I`ll get there, I am in no rush, just unsure of colour.

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I may well need it matey, I have two r5gtt in the past and I cant live without one so it will take a while, but I`ll get there, I am in no rush, just unsure of colour.

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If you need any random bits just pm me i might have them laying around... having not put half the bits back onto mine...:agree:

personally id keep it tungy and original , should be cool once done.

Keep it tungy :agree:

again keep it grey ! :agree:

I'd say paint it white mate, its a nicer colour then tungy. :agree:

Good luck with the project mate, looks like it'll be a mint one when done.

I think you should keep it the original colour it came from factory.:agree:

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Originally Posted by TrixNFlix

I think you should keep it the original colour it came from factory.:agree:

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Do this one Tungy and your next project white. There are plenty out there that need saving / restoring.:agree:

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Do this one Tungy and your next project white. There are plenty out there that need saving / restoring.:agree:

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pah tungys are way too common...:p, do it pearl white....:wasntme:..or raider blue as they arent common either...:laugh:, whatever , tis good to see another 5 being restored..:agree:

I like White 5s and I like tungsten 5s, I don't no which I like most there's only one way to find out.. Fiiiiight!! As Harry hill would say, lol.

I'd keep it original colour mate and get it in the game

Thanks for all your help guys, it appears that most of you think that keeping it tungy is the way to go forward?? ( I may have to toss a coin on that one).
If any one has bits and pieces left over or spare and want to sell them I would be interested pls PM me. At the moment i am in need of a good rot free tailgate and various interior trims ie boot carpet, and loads of other stuff:sad2:.
Thanks for looking, I will keep putting photos on.

I can help with all the parts you need. If you want to pop down to my unit you will find all you need :D

I might have to take you up on the offer, I could talk all night about what I have done so far with this car, all the front /rear suspension has been blasted and re-powder coated, and endless other bits and pieces inc total braking system has been stripped, replaced or refurbed and in my loft (don`t tell the missus).
Let me know if you have a tailgate becuase thats what I need asap.:)

I need a good rot free tailgate guys ( in white would be lovely) can anyone help:crap:
pm if you have one....

Does anyone have any good pics of the fuel pump/filter assy as fitted on a standard ph2 , My baby is in boxes of bits all over the place! and I am now on fuel system sub assy whilst the car is in bodyshop. Can anyone help with good quality pics.

Many Thanks Guys.....;)

Hi everyone,
New year update, car is now at a friends house having welding done and new sills etc, I will then have car back and start the rubbing down and proper rust prevention with por 15 +waxoil in all thr hard to reach parts.
Sub assy is going well and just had alloys totally refurbed and they look amazing! pics added soon.
Alot of parts are bubble wrapped and put away in loft ,so I will add loads of photos when they slowly start making their way back onto the car.
I am hoping to get some paint on her in the summer if time and money allow that is.

I have decided to paint the car glacier white 389 paint code, I just love white cars and this will be so mint and OE when done it will look lovely,I am 18 months into this project and haven`t given myself deadlines, but would love to start re-assembly in autumn.

Good luck with this project mate, look forward to seeing the final result :)

Thanks matey, I am getting there slowly and have so many little jobs on the go at once! when the car comes out of bodyshop I have to get it ready for paint in the summer.
I will keep posting photos.....:)

just seen this thread yes 389 is code for glacier white
you can get solid or base coat for this,go for basecoat as this is clearcoated
and will not fade like a solid,and will have a nice finish to it:agree:
ask the bodyshop which shade they do it in as thier is quite a few and you may need to paint little bits in the future

Thanks for that important info mate, I know alot of people say keep it tungey grey, but I like white and it will be proper smate when I finish it.
I need a good tailgate if anyone knows where I can get one.:)

Hello everyone, its been a while since I last posted a thread, the car is entering the final stages of welding and will soon be rubbed down for some fresh paint, I will be stone gaurding the complete underside of the car and wax oiling in all sills/wheel arches etc before re-build.

I will post more photos before and after painting, but here are a few boring ones of the new tailgate I finally found!

PS-does anyone know if you can still get the blanking cap on the front bumper I think its the tow eye cover ??? I have also just received my brand new genuine rear bumper, it was on order for 6 months !! worth waiting for though.

club shop has towing eye covers,keep up the good work mate:agree:

Hi John,

Good to see things are coming along nicely. :niceone:

Let me know if you ever want me to pop round for any hints & Tips as your local Area Rep?

Steve ;)

Hello everyone, just to bore you all I have loads more pics of prep work before paint.

I am short of one alloy wheel in good condition ,i dont mind a bead blast and paint required, but need a striaight one if anyone has a cheap one please pm me...

And some more

I "THINK" I've got a bare alloy Speedline tucked in the garage somewhere??? :scratch:

I'll have a look for you. ;)

Car looks as though it's coming on well John!

and some more .......

thats some effort going into that.. gonna look sh1t hot in no time:smokin:

Thanks guys I will keep posting pics of various bits if anyone is interested??

Steve ,have look for that wheel if you can and let me know what you want for it. Thanks, John.

Hello to all members reading this, well its been a while and after doing lots of little jobs in the background the car will finally enter the paint shop for full body re-spray !!!

Expect lots of photos to follow,but here`s a few boring ones of new oem rubber seals etc.:):):):)

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Originally Posted by VALE46

Thanks guys I will keep posting pics of various bits if anyone is interested??

Steve ,have look for that wheel if you can and let me know what you want for it. Thanks, John.

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Just seen this now :ashamed:

Yes I have got a bare stripped Speedline in the garage!

If you want it, PM me a price? ;)

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Originally Posted by VALE46

Hello to all members reading this, well its been a while and after doing lots of little jobs in the background the car will finally enter the paint shop for full body re-spray !!!

Expect lots of photos to follow,but here`s a few boring ones of new oem rubber seals etc.:):):):)

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Good lad John!! :niceone:

This is the best part of any restoration!! :D

I look forward to seeing it return, Have you said what colour you're going for now??

Hi Steve,
I have decided to go for glacier white. I thought long and hard about it and just really fancy a white one.
I have been so busy buying various bits and pieces for the car,but as with any project there are ups and downs. Trouble finding parts etc are becoming very normal!

Final pic of car on trailer on its way to paintshop!!!!!:scared:


ps- Steve if you still have that spare standard alloy I will buy it off you,let me know mate..

looking good :)

Is it a campus shell?

hi there , i am doing the same job also with mine , ive been doing mine for 2 years now. if you send me your email can email you a pic of the fuel bracket pic.

You can also see my thread on here

good luck matt:)

Hi guys, well my main man at the paint shop called me today and sent me some pics of the R5 which is now WHITE !!! special day in this little cars life. Its still early days but seeing a bare GT TURBO shell with new paint on it is something I will never forget. (enjoy).........:eek::eek::eek::eek:

And some more.............:)

And some more.............;)

New poster! (less than 10 posts)

Look great on freshly painted car, but it is not original r5gtt shell is it cos of rear wheel arches are different?:confused:

Look forward to see the build up mate:agree:

I can assure you it is matey, its had a nsr quarter panal on it before I got it! but I personally have stripped it to the last nut and bolt, so please ......kind comments only, or no comments at all :mad::mad::mad::mad:

New poster! (less than 10 posts)

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I can assure you it is matey, its had a nsr quarter panal on it before I got it! but I personally have stripped it to the last nut and bolt, so please ......kind comments only, or no comments at all :mad::mad::mad::mad:

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Ah....just notice other photo of o/s/r showing rear arch that is indeed r5gtt, my apologies:ashamed::eek:

Why thank you Sir,apology accepted. :)

Shell looks fantastic mate, what are you planning engine wise? Keeping the original or thinking of something else?

:eek: Thats a proper colour change!

White is going to look very fresh fresh buddy!

Thanks for all your kind comments as always I need help as most people do when restoring things in this way.
I am currently deciding on what is the best product for corrosion prevention.

I want to wax oil all the internals of the doors and sills and tailgate etc,does anyone use dinatrol?? I have read its really good stuff to spray in areas for long lasting rust prevention.

I would love your thoughts..:)

what a change !!!!


looks very beautiful in white !!!

im planning to use that dynatol stuff , got good ratings on the mx5 owners clubs.

Also strange request, but does anyone have any idea on a part number or availability on the funny seal that goes on the inside of the windscreen, its the internal seal that has the wire webbing in it. any ideas please....:sad2:

Great work :agree:

hello everyone, I now have most of the panals painted and I am slowly starting to go through the many boxes of bits I have to locate all the bits to slowly start putting my baby back together.

I have had a new screen front and rear fitted, but as usual with these resto projects finding certain parts is difficult,I find alot of reno dealers are just not bothered/interested to help.

this sunday morning was spent spraying all the inner sills etc with cavity wax ( I went for 3M clear wax) in the end.
I have also cleaned the whole underside of the car and stonechip protected all the inner wheel arches and chassis.

Please leave your comments /advice...:D

Sad I know, but some more shots of a painted rot free chassis.:)

:agree: very good project, will keep an eye on this. :)

Looking good mate. Love seeing 5s stripped down to their shell and restored.

How much were the windows mate? I'm after some as well

Hello, thanks for all your comments, the new windscreen was £50 fitted, and rear screen was genuine reno from France @ £68 +vat I will post more photos soon as tailgate will be fitted back on soon with all new shiny bits

never realised you were in cambridge before,

good job, will be good to see another one saved. :agree:

Very nice job well done

Well mainly this week (when the wife lets me) !! I have been working on the freshly painted tailgate,I have fitted the new genuine rear screen and plumbed all wiring and washer tubes back in. I couldn`t but a new rear washer jet,my main dealer said no go, so if anyone knows any different please let me know (part number etc).
I will hopefully be putting the tailgate back on the shell in the next few weeks. In the meantime I wondered if there are any pics of rear badge refurbs, I have painted the GTTURBO badge glacier white. I would like to know who has had success in painting the raised letters red, and if so- what red?? pics would be a great help.

As with any project like this you take one step forward and two steps back! I need new inner window channel seals for the front doors, does anyone know the part numbers??:sad2:

Must go the beers getting warm....

Oh and the doors came back from paintshop yesterday, I have fitted brand new door handles for the pics, I will post more when fitted back on car,I have made some phone calls about pattern door window regulators.Has anyone used them and are they any good??:)

Amazing work I've do all he same to mine been to Renault and bought like you have keep up the good work :)

Well, I had a bit of time on the car this morning and refitted tailgate and rear quarter windows, all with new genuine catches and seals of course. The boot seal and rear window internal seals are all new too....:):):)

I forgot to say the tailgate trim is back from paintshop and now fitted with brand new number plate lights,I have painted the badge but still really unsure how to tackle the red lettering??

Help Help Help :sad:

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still really unsure how to tackle the red lettering?? Help Help Help :sad:

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I used some paint-on-masking from your local model shop to mask off the parts I didn't want painting, then just had them sprayed by the bodyshop with the rest of the car.

i'm loving this thread, but one bit of criticism, i want to look at all your photos but because they are attached it would take days of opening and closing tabs, would you upload the photos to the likes of photobucket and then link them here as they appear a lot bigger?

its a free photo hosting site and it wont take up rtoc bandwith!

Thanks for your advice Steve, I will look into that option.
As for photos, yes I have hundreds and will try and sort that out.:)

Looks a really great project mate. Am very impressed and jealous!! Keep up the good work..

Just one silly question- how the hell are you going to get the car back off those axle stands with the wood going across the bottom of the car??:confused:

Its called muscles !!! Me and my dad lifted the whole car on and off the trailer !:laugh:
When I start rebuilding the underside of the car i will reposition the jacks etc....

This project looks fantastic mate keep up the good work ;)

lookimg good! and for the red lettering check my reply at the bottom of this thread:
https://www.rtoc.org/boards/showthread.php?t=24103

Thank you to everyone who has looked at my project and made comments and suggestions, today I have rubbed down/stripped /painted the pedal box and fitted some shiny new genuine pedal rubbers.

I will show pics before and after rear badge renovation.:)

hello everyone, I had the pleasure of a few hours on the ggt this morning and thought I`d post some more pics of doors installed, new door seals and window channel seals + new check links and pins etc..

I got the seals from renualt main dealer as I found part numbers on a thread on here, but had a mental block -Is there a seal on the inside of the window channel ?? not convinced the seals are right as the the new ones have s slit in the corners and old ones didn`t have this...

If anyone can post a pic of the window seals that would be most helpful..:):)

hello and happy Christmas 2011 to every rtoc member.

My wife gave me a early xmas present today-that was the whole day on the 5 !!
I have done a little bit more on her today and refitted refurbed pedal box and steering coloumn (shiny new bearings installed of course):):)

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Thank you to everyone who has looked at my project and made comments and suggestions, today I have rubbed down/stripped /painted the pedal box and fitted some shiny new genuine pedal rubbers.

I will show pics before and after rear badge renovation.:)

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Do a step by step with how you do the badge :)

After a few weeks of background work on cleaning bits and pieces I spent a few hours actually on the car! I have fitted new genuine rear lamps and refitted various interior trims etc,I have spent a long time on renovating the ripped headlining and now you would never know!

If any on can PM various pics of a standard engine bay and interior wiring looms that would be great as I have boxes of looms to go through and help in locating their correct routing etc would be helpful.

Also pic of reconditioned tailgate badge.

This car is going to be an absolute minter keep the updates coming :agree:

Have you had the door cards flocked?

Out of interest, what are you planning to do with the seats? Do you have a good set?

Now this im going to keep an eye on, good project thread vale:agree:

stunning :agree: keep up the fantastic work :agree:

Firstly, thank you for all your kind comments about my project. I will continue to post updated photos as work progresses.:agree:.

The interior door cards (front) are not bad, I have so far wet vac`d them 3 times!! the same cannot be said for the rear ones! all the fabric has peeled off and they need replacing. If anyone has any then please pm me.

Have a good weekend everyone:cool:

I have been concentrating mainly on interior rebuild at the moment, but look what I have in my shed awaiting fitment to shiny reconditioned rims.:)

I can get hold of other sets of these tyres all 5 for £350 so pm if anyone wants a set of Uni`s

Nice Project m8:agree:

just out of curiosty ,how do you move it ,do you leave your car sitting on they axel stands and wood? doesnt look very stable ,id be terrified it tipped off :scared:

Good question mate! The car has no axles on it so the plan is to rebuild all the interior etc then fit all underside components etc then get axles back on and then I will have a rolling chassis before engine and gearbox go back in..

Well thats the plan anyway (fingers crossed).

After no success with renault main dealer on a new gear knob or gaitor I decided to refurb my own, I have carefully remove old gaitor and replaced it with a new one and I am going to get a red sticker made for the top of the knob then lacquer it after fitting and see what it looks like:crap:

I am getting very frustrated with renault parts at the moment because they can`t seem to get anything I want!! if anyone knows if you can get new gearknobs please let me know.

I will post a pic when sticker is on and see what you think:)

New gear knobs are rare... Simples.

Havent been available for 3years... Maybe longer.

Sometimes appear on ebay... & go for silly silly money. Some members have them & wont part with them

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I am getting very frustrated with renault parts at the moment because they can`t seem to get anything I want!!

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:scratch:

Yep, Renault should have every part on the shelf. The car only went out of production over 20 years ago :laugh:

Mike managed to get a new batch of gaitors a year or so ago so may be worth a call. Great project btw.

Thanks for all your comments guys, I will add pics of refurbed gearlever assy when its done;)

Done a few more bits at the weekend so here are some more pics.

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Done a few more bits at the weekend so here are some more pics.

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Great work, very envious.

Maybe you could finish it off with some new dial faces since you have gone to such effort?

https://www.rtoc.org/shop/index.php?m...roducts_id=102

and needle paint 'Maybelline, Forever Strong Pro, Orange Couture 460' from Boots, £4.07

Fantastic effort mate keep up the good work :)

Will this be concourse?

I hope so mate, I will keep trying to make it perfect :)

great work, mines on the road now, cant wait for yours to be done and il come and view it

If yours is running I would love to come over and have look and get some hints a tips on putting mine back together.

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If yours is running I would love to come over and have look and get some hints a tips on putting mine back together.

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Kris M is coming over to mine this weekend' if you want we can pop over & have a chat if you're making a cuppa tea? ;)

A few pics of recent work on the interior rebuild, going very slow at the moment due to lack of spare time, but getting there slowly:crap:

Brand new spare wheel arrived the other day,I will vacuum pack it before putting it on the car,the spare wheel cage is being bead blasted and repainted so should all look new when done:)

Well 2 days off work and bloody rained most of the time,but did get my genuine decals fitted + a few other bits and bobs, getting there very slowly though:confused:

I also managed to get some of those grey caps for the bench seat hinges (brand new).

That's a mint job does mine to shame love it ,do you work at Renault to get all these parts ??

Great job, given me a bit of interest to get mine back together as its just come back from he paint shop. Must be costing u a small fortune in parts I had no Idea half the stuff was still available

Superb !! :agree::)

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I also managed to get some of those grey caps for the bench seat hinges (brand new).

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Never seen these before :scratch:

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I also managed to get some of those grey caps for the bench seat hinges (brand new).

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Aren't the hinges just bare? Are you sure they are not for a different model? Not that it matters I suppose.

Cars looking good buddy, anymore progress? :)

looks super :smokin:

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Aren't the hinges just bare? Are you sure they are not for a different model? Not that it matters I suppose.

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+3 on the hinge covers.
Also shouldn't the carpet be red ? Anyhoo, it looks amazing !

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+3 on the hinge covers.
Also shouldn't the carpet be red ? Anyhoo, it looks amazing !

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Think the hinge covers are off the Campus model.
Carpet can be grey or red depending on what option was picked from the factory when new.
Red does seem to be a more popular choice tho.
:)

My carpet is pink.:laugh:

hi everyone,sorry I haven`t posted anything lately (been working on the house so thats taken up most of my time and money)! I will put some pics on shortly of progress so far.Seats are now in but need some new seat bolsters for both seats,does anyone know where you can get them from other than cgb??

And also as I have given up on trying to located some mint door cards/rear quater inner trims I`m am thinking of the flocking option?? who are people using for this and can they get the grey colour or is it just black??

please advise if possible.

What's wrong with the one's you've got?? I'm sure a careful clean & they will come up a bit??

I used a member called Phoenix autosport(Carl) he maches the the flock to the original grey and his work is outstanding in my opinion he's done a few things for me if you read his threads he shows all the door cards and other stuff he has done for 5's looks just like new you should defiantly check it out

And he's not far from both of us ;)

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Seats are now in but need some new seat bolsters for both seats,does anyone know where you can get them from other than cgb??

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http://www.gt-turbo-spares.co.uk/?page_id=26

£17.50p, Click on "seats etc" :agree:

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hi everyone,sorry I haven`t posted anything lately (been working on the house so thats taken up most of my time and money)! I will put some pics on shortly of progress so far.Seats are now in but need some new seat bolsters for both seats,does anyone know where you can get them from other than cgb??

And also as I have given up on trying to located some mint door cards/rear quater inner trims I`m am thinking of the flocking option?? who are people using for this and can they get the grey colour or is it just black??

please advise if possible.

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I have a minty mint set of front ph2 doorcards that id sell for the right price.

How much would you be thinking of for your front door cards Brigsy? :)

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I have a minty mint set of front ph2 doorcards that id sell for the right price.

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The Brigsenator's got a load of contraband Renault goodness tucked away ooop there in Costa del Redcar! :study:

Go on Brigsy, sell those door cards, this restoration project is worthy of them!

I have a contact in France I can put you in touch with if you want to get the original seat fabric for a retrim. I had my rear bench top sections and 4* bolsters retrimmed. Cost a fortune (the trimming, not the fabric) but there was no more worries of paper thin material splitting when getting in and out any more!

How about a set of the club's nice orange dial kits to finish off your interior?

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Go on Brigsy, sell those door cards, this restoration project is worthy of them!

I have a contact in France I can put you in touch with if you want to get the original seat fabric for a retrim. I had my rear bench top sections and 4* bolsters retrimmed. Cost a fortune (the trimming, not the fabric) but there was no more worries of paper thin material splitting when getting in and out any more!

How about a set of the club's nice orange dial kits to finish off your interior?

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how much is the seat fabric?

About €60 per square meter delivered.

I think I will take photos of the rear quarters before and after and let you make your minds up?
Thanks for all you help as always,I promise this car will be finished one day!!!!!!!!!!!:crap:

Pm me a sensible offer mate :)

Hi everyone, had a few hours on the 5 after a long lay off! started to put fuel/brake lines back on, but most of the clips have broken! does anyone know if you can still buy them??

Also It`s been a long time since I took the fuel tanks out so has anyone got any good detailed pictures of the underside of a phase 2 showing pipe positions and fuel tank vent pipes etc???

Any help greatly appreciated:)

Hi John, good to see your getting back on with the five. Pm me your email address and i will send some pics over.:agree: .

I Had a few days on the 5 this week (spring is coming after all) I have fitted shiny reconditioned rear axle with new shocks and all new genuine fixings, been trying to get some pics of peoples underside fuel tank area and routing of brake pipes and fuel pipes.....

i have made up new brake pipes and had the original fuel pipes re-plated,but struggling for correct clips and routing, so if anyone can send me some good pictures that would be grand :)

Good work mate :agree:

Nice work .i am also after the brake pipe clips on the rear beam

I have these pics mate if they help at all
http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/a...9B7A98C8B9.jpg
http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/a...9B6D76699E.jpg
http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/a...9B5F7C4065.jpg

Also if it helps mate I have some more pictures in my project thread that may help you go to projects and restorations page 3 half way down is bringing my 5 back from the dead go on page 4 and half way down there is more pics

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I have these pics mate if they help at all
http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/a...9B7A98C8B9.jpg

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Jesus! :eek:
That exhaust system is massive.

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Jesus! :eek:
That exhaust system is massive.

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Just a little :laugh: they say big is beautiful

be loud and proud :laugh:

Looking very nice:agree:

Thanks for all the pictures, great help thank you :)

I`ve been quite busy over the past few weeks and put the rear suspension on and fuel tanks and front subrframe and shox on etc, brake and fuel pipes all fitted and just need plumbing up to calipers etc.

I`ve found my dusty engine and gearbox in the barn and now gonna start sourcing lots of oe gaskets etc and then strip and rebuild it over the coming months.

Can anyone reccommend a very good engine paint? I wanted to keep it black, but would like some good stuff and not cheap crap that will just flake off :crap:.

grazie

por engine enamel, its the dogs danglys, painted my block black over two years ago now and it still looks minty fresh :)

Frost restorations is your best bet;)

Thanks mate, can you buy it on-line?? from frosts ??

http://www.frost.co.uk/por15-black-e...int-473ml.html

think so, all i did was have the block hot washed and it just went straight on with a brush, i was concerned about the brush marks but they went once it went off. I also did my calipers with it i was lazy with those and just cleaned them with a wire brush, took a few coats but again still looks good now.

Thanks Phil, I shall go for that stuff then, pretty expensive, but I guess you have to pay for quality! been putting the rest of brake pipes on today and fitted rear braided hoses.

Does anyone have any good pictures of the handbrake cable routing? I cant remember how they go and I lost the little pivot under the lever where the cables clip in (bugger hope you can still buy them)!!

Any pics greatly appreciated :)

If your still after seat bolsters I got a full set for both seats for £40 from ebay dont pay £17.50 each side thats a rip off price

This resto is awesome! Going to be so mint when finished...

Great work buddy, keep the pics coming..

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If your still after seat bolsters I got a full set for both seats for £40 from ebay dont pay £17.50 each side thats a rip off price

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Hi mate, I would definately buy a full set for £40! are they from cgb?? I sometimes find them very expensive ! let me know the link or item number

thanks, john

Hi guys, I need some new or good condition battery leads and some good quality pictures on the routing etc, I`ve been quite busy on the 5 over the past couple of weeks and need some help with pictures of wiring and pipe work routing.

many thanks in advance :)

I will get some pics out to you tomorrow night John.:agree: let me know what you need. Cheers

No not cgb item number 121079247801 seller tinted106. I paid £45 delivered they are £10 +£3 P+P but message him for a discount price for a full set hope this helps

Hi, Gearbox has been sent off for full rebuild, I`m trying to source as many genuine parts related to the gearbox, just wondered if anyone has managed to get bearings for the JB3032 box??

haven`t heard from my gearbox specialist, but hopefully it won`t be too painfull !!

Oh, and a shiny new oil level sensor turned up today!!

how much was the oil level sensor, and what do you expect the gearbox build to cost, who are you using as your close to me, cant wait to see this 5 done

CGB do a gearbox kit including the bearings and syncros etc. When Colin did mine I believe he got the bearings from Renault so maybe worth giving your main dealer a call.

Getting close now by the looks of it! Looks so good with the orange lights and side decals. :cool:

Morning, I am going fit handbrake cables this weekend ( weather permitting) does anyone have any good quality pictures of the routing of the cables?
Thanks

Had a few hours on the car yesterday, managaed to get front brakes fitted, but as always with long term projects I came accross a problem, the osf caliper just doesn`t seem to fit !! I purchased new ones years ago then just mothbaled them! now i`ve come to fit them I have an issue.

the nsf is fine (girling ) stmped on it (oh well, back to sourcing another one:(

How clean does the subframe etc of your 5 look matey!! :)

Vale this is this benchmark for my project, your attention to detail is amazing mate, keep the updates coming 😊

How come wont the caliper fit? Sometimes they are a nightmare to line up.

The caliper is an odd one, I`m a mechanic by trade so I`d like to think I know my stuff. The new calipers were bought about 2 years ago! there just isn`t enough gap between piston and caliper casing to fit pads? everything else looks good. ( I`ll get another one and go from there)

Thanks for all the kind comments, both my previous 5`s were mint and this one will be the same, It`s taking a while, but with all the various help and advice from members I will get there :crap:;)

Started cleaning inlet manifold today, the coolant ports are knackered! and worryingly different sizes (yet another hurdle to jump hey)!! the joys of owning a 5 I guess:scratch:

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The caliper is an odd one, I`m a mechanic by trade so I`d like to think I know my stuff. The new calipers were bought about 2 years ago! there just isn`t enough gap between piston and caliper casing to fit pads? everything else looks good. ( I`ll get another one and go from there)

Thanks for all the kind comments, both my previous 5`s were mint and this one will be the same, It`s taking a while, but with all the various help and advice from members I will get there :crap:;)

Started cleaning inlet manifold today, the coolant ports are knackered! and worryingly different sizes (yet another hurdle to jump hey)!! the joys of owning a 5 I guess:scratch:

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You can buy new brass coolent fittings.or plug them up .up to u

I Had a Problem with my calipers ,only cause i used Campus ones the discs are Sammler than gt so pads would not fit

ur 28mm core plugs are probably shot too!!:(just seen pics!water fitting either tapped to an m12 or a 1/4 bsp

I have ordered two new brass fittings from CGB so I will wait and see if there threaded inserts or just interference fit? The problem I have is that someone has bodged a larger pipe in there before so I may struggle to get it to seal ???:confused:

I will post more pics as the renovation of inlet manifold takes shape! Also has anyone got the small clevis bracket that the handbrake cables connect to under the lever (I`ve lost mine) and stupid question. but the routing of cables?? they do cross over and go through the rear axle?? been a long while since I stripped this car

Photot of handbrake cables would be nice (help anyone)

These any good? :)


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They cross over like that then go inside the arms of the torsion bar then into the caliper Any One Got Part number for the clips that hold cable on Bars ??

Thanks for the great pics, I know I`m jumping the gun here, but what exhaust system is best for the five?? I want to go stainless, but don`t want anything to crazy noise wise!! and I want it to fit nice in the rear bumper and not too big tailpipe (any suggestions)

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Thanks for the great pics, I know I`m jumping the gun here, but what exhaust system is best for the five?? I want to go stainless, but don`t want anything to crazy noise wise!! and I want it to fit nice in the rear bumper and not too big tailpipe (any suggestions)

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Get an o.e stainless One Made up maybe the tail pipe a Little bigger

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I have ordered two new brass fittings from CGB so I will wait and see if there threaded inserts or just interference fit? The problem I have is that someone has bodged a larger pipe in there before so I may struggle to get it to seal ???:confused:

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I assume you mean the hose tails for the inlet maifold ?. If so they are threaded, I got some from Bob a while back. The original ones had an allen key in the center to unscrew them but its a bit of a bugger once they have corroded. Think I did mine in a vice in the end.

Omp exhaust is good. Id do away with the coolant on the inlet manifold all together unless your after 100% oem look

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What are the reasons for this, is it because there's a constant hot water being passed through it? Would you keep the carb ones in then?

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What are the reasons for this, is it because there's a constant hot water being passed through it? Would you keep the carb ones in then?

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Well for performance reasons why heat the inlet when your trying to keep the charge temps as cool as poss. I would keep the carb base hoses on a road going car if it is to be used regularly in the winter.

I did think this would be the answer:agree: just nice to know the answer from someone who knows what there talking about:D

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Thanks for the great pics, I know I`m jumping the gun here, but what exhaust system is best for the five?? I want to go stainless, but don`t want anything to crazy noise wise!! and I want it to fit nice in the rear bumper and not too big tailpipe (any suggestions)

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the 'old school' scorpion might be a option, there different to the current types. Tail pipe is smaller, 3/3.5inch - and bore of system varies from 2inch to 2 1/4 inch, some claim there was a 2.5inch but never seen one. Sound wise is not silly loud, very quiete normal driving but a nice burble on idle, bit of a roar on throttle.

You say you work in the trade, where do you work out of interest?

I work for Murketts, have done for 18 years now!!
Latests pics of inlet manifold restoration, I bead blasted the manifold ready for paint, but still struggling on coolant ports,I fitted one yesterday, but I`m gonna have to fabricate the other side as the hole is too big to accept the standard size brass outlet
(fun and games as always):crap:

And look what just turned up ready to be fitted on subframe this weekend :)

been a nice day so thought I`d crack on with rear brakes and air-horn restoration! all coming along nicely and inlet manifold coolant port issue resolved! I will post pics of the end result next week.:)

Top work fella, good luck keeping it that clean when it's on the road:D attention to detail is amazing

so clean !!!!!!:):agree:

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I know, making me very envious. It's going to look stunning.

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I work for Murketts, have done for 18 years now!!

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Ok cool, im at marshalls - cant wait to see your 5 finished. Mines in a bodyshop in Wilbraham, and iv heard there is another 5 at bar tech having the floor pan and sills done - havnt seen it though

Which dept in Marshalls? I used to work there in the 90`s is the car standard? I need to look at one to remind me where bits go!

Let me know or pm me your number, cheers , John

Inlet manifold bead blasted, new brass oulet ports and painted and laquered :)

Engine and gearbox now being rebuilt so i thought I`d get the alloys out of the loft and fit shiny new uniroyals to them, maybe jumping the gun as car not ready for them yet, but just another job ticked off the long list hey :laugh:

Be careful that those wheel weights don't hit the caliper when you put them on, as mine did after had them refurbed :eek:

Few issues with strange holes in engine block can anyone identify these or am I right in the s++t ??

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Mine did too :agree:
Any wheel weights on standard rims need to be towards the back of the wheel.

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I believe a couple of them holes should have core plugs in them.
The ones with jagged edges look like failures in the block :sad2:

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I believe a couple of them holes should have core plugs in them.
The ones with jagged edges look like failures in the block :sad2:

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:agree: core plug holes but the jagged edged one looks like a bit of a issue u need to address mate.

Thanks for all the comments about strange engine holes. I have had an engineering company have a look at it and the guy checking it for me has seen these holes before and he says they are perfectly normal. (fingers crossed hey)!

Whilst I`m waiting for engine and gearbox to return I`m fitting new rear bumper and exhaust manifold/turbo elbow restoration. Things slowly getting there and really want to get this engine and gearbox back in this summer.

More rear bumper fitment pictures :)

And now on the car..

Great build, so fresh in white! Got to be the best colour! :cool:

Have you welded in new rear bumper brackets to pull the bumper right up ? ,i like it liek that

looks amazing

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I may well need it matey, I have two r5gtt in the past and I cant live without one so it will take a while, but I`ll get there, I am in no rush, just unsure of colour.

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Sounds like me lol

Looks so good uv done really well

Evening all, well gearbox arrived back today after full strip and rebuild, its had quite a bit done inc bearings synchros and input shaft! all the rubbers and seals have been replaced, the rebuild was done by A1 gearboxes St Neots http://www.a1gearboxes.co.uk/

I would recommend them, the only thing I was a bit disappointed in was the cleaning of the casings. The box was in a right state when they got it and it was chemically cleaned twice but still not happy.

I`ve started the long job off cleaning the box up to a standard where I can paint it. I will etch primer it but would love some advice on what paint people have used and adhesion success :crap:

Getting a bit cleaner now!

I just used sliver hammerite on mine

how much did they come out for your gearbox refurb?

Hi Mate, It was £300 inc vat. they have replaced quite a bit though, they collect and deliver for that though. Just a shame they didn`t clean it a bit better!

I must get over to see you soon.

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Hi Mate, It was £300 inc vat. they have replaced quite a bit though, they collect and deliver for that though. Just a shame they didn`t clean it a bit better!

I must get over to see you soon.

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yer iv heard of the company - seen the vans around. Will need mine doing at some point.

Yes mate get over - i had mine running last night and im hoping for it on the road in 2 weeks.

I have no idea about these sorts of things but what about sand blasting the g/box casing with a fine grained sand?

i WILL CLEAN GEARBOX THOROUGHLY AND THEN PAINT AND POST RESULTS WHEN DONE,

CYLINDER HEAD CAME BACK TODAY AFTER NEW VALVES FITTED AND REFACE/PRESSURE CHECK AND NEW VALVE SEALS, I WILL CLEANING THAT AND PAINTING TOO MORE PICS TO FOLLOW

how thick is the head?

Not to sure, but a quick skim and at least I know its flat and straight hey.
All new valves and now its been blasted and painted its coming on nicely, just waiting for engine to come back after rebuild.:)

He probably asked the thickness because there's not much on these heads to skim. I believe you can get thicker head gaskets to compensate for the skim as it affects the cylinder capacity. Too much of a skim is a no no.

Think 73mm is minimum thickness. And they started life @ 73.5mm.

Just checked spec and its had a 0.15 mm skim so all good.

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Just checked spec and its had a 0.15 mm skim so all good.

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but if its been skimmed before you got it aswell...

Depends what boost your planning on running, guessing yourl be fairly oe so head thickness shouldn't be an issue:agree:

Awesome build :)

Just wished I had the money and time to do this to my glacier!

As the weather has been very kind today, I have de-greased the JB3 gearbox and put a couple of coats of etch primer over it so hopefully ready for the top coats tomorrow.:)

Gearbox coming on nicely, I will post pics when painted and all fixings replaced with new bolts etc.
dug out my oil feed pipe and will get it braided before full engine assemblt commences!

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dug out my oil feed pipe and will get it braided before full engine assemblt commences!

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Is that new / been re-coated, or just a very good condition one?

I had it re-plated a few years ago, but would like it braided, but local hose company want around 80 quid!! Does anyone know where you can get them from??:crap:

Gearbox all done, just waiting for engine block to come back this week!!
Does anyone know if you can still buy the speed sensor and tdc sensor new??

GSF still do tdc.

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Gearbox all done, just waiting for engine block to come back this week!!
Does anyone know if you can still buy the speed sensor and tdc sensor new??

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I purchased a new tdc sensor from CGb as I needed it quick. Could not work out why the original bolts would not fit having positioned it correctly. So out it came again, when I took it out the holes are about a mm too small, had to use a round file to enlarge each hole for the original bolts to fit correctly. Finally it does not mount correctly on the bracket on the bulkhead, the slot on the back is not wide enough to slide over the black clip even though they look identical... All in all not great but new and reliable.

Gearbox looks excellent. I'll be doing the same shortly to mine once it's been reconditioned.

gearbox looks good vale - what paint/primer/laquer did you use?

Hi James, Thanks for comments on gearbox. After full rebuild the end casing was bead blasted and painted with RAL905 black, I spent a lot of time rubbing down and cleaning box before using etch primer, top coat was a star silver3 paint.

I have replaced most of the bolts and fitted new gearbox mountings, are you around next week mate? I want to come round and have a look at your car (please)..

Yes I am - pretty much all week just give me a call or txt to arrange it.

Small update, engine bottom end rebuild complete and here`s a few pics of masking up and painting the block. I used a wurth high temp paint then lacquered over it.
Flywheel was lightened/balance and refaced.

I will post more pics of building up,but may marry the block to gearbox then drop it in subframe and bolt head on we in situ? I could do with some help on a strengthening bar which I`ve completely forgotten where it goes? I will post pics soon.

PS- a massive thank you to gttjames, he is a top guy and helped me out this week :)

Also a few shiny parts turned up this week!!
new speedo sensor
new tdc heat shield
new king lead
new lead set
valeo green box clutch kit :wasntme:

Done a few bits tonight, fitted timing case with new gasket and oil seal, fitted sump and installed new oil level sensor and sump bung, I`m getting there slowly and may just marry gearbox to block and put back in the car and fit cylinder head afterwards.:crap:

looking good

carefull on a new build you dont ruin the turbo, despite being clean and doing many oil changes i still got swarf in my turbo

engine is looking very clean and new:agree:. what paint did you use on the gear box?

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engine is looking very clean and new:agree:. what paint did you use on the gear box?

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More goodies arrived today !! new inner wheel arch liners and splash gaurds+ new subframe tie rods..:):)

How much were the new splash guards buddy? :confused:

:cool:

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cheers! think i need new glasses:cool:

The splash guards and all new fixings were around £30 per side, just wanted to keep it looking clean and oe..;)

I had a sunny day to myself today, so put the engine back in, fitted various new bits that have been lying around. New wheel arch liners and splash gaurds etc.

The only issue I have (which I`m trying to forget about) is I can`t remember how to set up the gearlinkage?? I have this JB3 rebuilt recently by A1 gearboxes St Neots, now I`m not saying they have Fu**ed up, but I spent an hour messing about with it and I cannot seem to select all gears!

If someone can offer any detailed help that would be great.:confused:

Looks Sexual!! :smokin:

The Gear linkage is a complete R-Sole to reset! I believe the trick is to put the gearbox into 2nd gear and then try to adjust the linkage to replicate that inside the car?? :scratch:

Looks better than new!!!!!

Looks incredible. :)

Looks like you caught the lower edge of the bulkhead wriggling the engine/box back in, the bugger. :(

Thanks for comments guys, I have pulled my hair out over this gearlikage issue though, I tried for 3 hours to set it up and no joy! is anyone local to Cambridge?? and give me a hand at all??

The gearbox has been rebuilt so I took it as gospel it would be a case of slotting it in and away we go! the thing that scares me is that with the linkage rod disconnected I can only seem to select 3 gears on the gearbox end selector fork?

Thanks for comments any help would be great :crap:

Looks amazing ,it took me an hour put box in rev ,now move lever in rev pos ,connect rod etc ,the problem I had was the rod on the lever was 180 out and to remove the whole unit and spin round if you look at pictures in neutral the rod leans back towards rear of car that's how you know its correct.

To get box in rev push up then to the left I think its a pain took me an hour but did it in end.

Your car iS amazing

Well a quick update...I`ve sorted the set up of gear linkage (finally) !! what a fiddle hey. had a few hours so started putting bits and bobs on the car, as with any long term project you have good days and bad days!

The only thing I could do with is pictures of the starter motor heat shield brackets etc, I have loads of brackets that I have no idea where they go!

Any help always appreciated.:crap:

That is just stunning. Epic attention to detail.

Thanks mate, It`s taking some time but one day she`ll roll ( I hope)!!!

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Thanks mate, It`s taking some time but one day she`ll roll ( I hope)!!!

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She will :) and I look forward to seeing it finished, fantastic :)

Wow this is stunning :agree:

This maybe a stupid question, but I`ve received a new engine loom today (pic attached) and I had a quick look at it and it appears to have wiring for starter (large diameter wire) and the smaller wire for starter solenoid.

My question however, does the main battery lead direct from battery piggy back onto the starter live connection as well as the wire on the new engine loom?? HELP
Does anyone have a good picture of the starter wiring in situ????:confused:

http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/y...ps14c29595.jpg

Different engine, but same principal.

There is a separate fixed live from the battery to the starter, usually a thick grey cable with a big spade like connecter with one of the corners angled. :agree:

So does it go straight on starter motor with the other large wire on new loom?
Also a few more parts turned up today, as I`m really trying to keep the car spot on OE I`ve sourced a few coolant hoses already, I would love any part numbers off anyone who still has them??

Also is it only the bottom hose that has a spring in it?? I ordered 2 just incase!

Bottom rad hose is supposed to have a spring in it to stop it getting squashed and stopping the flow of water. Not sure if that also applies to the GTT as mine never had one which I was quite surprised by as I was only the second owner and car was only around 7 years old. Still I guess some mechanic at some point may have not been bothered to refit it as it would have taken at least another 30 seconds. Do you have the part number for the spring as I may try and fit one also ?.

As for hoses I am sure I have seen some nos on ebay Italy, France or Spain a while back so have a hunt around.

The picture on RHS is of the springs, not a lot of money and in stock in the uk.

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There is a separate fixed live from the battery to the starter, usually a thick grey cable with a big spade like connecter with one of the corners angled. :agree:

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This :agree:

The one on the engine loom goes to the alternator, so you'll have 2 larger cables to the battery. One purely dedicated to the starter (grey) and the main power supply from alternator (red)

Can't remember off hand where the exciter wire for the starter solenoid comes from but I don't think it's part of the new engine loom

Been awhile and had to think about it but I'm sure that's the answer to your question :)

On your new engine bay loom, you need to make sure the two wires that go to the top of the alternator ( yellow and purple ) are the correct way round in the plug, a load of new looms from Renault came with the he wrong way round from the factory.

with the plug fitted the PURPLE wire should be closest to the FRONT of the car and yellow at the rear

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This is the fixed live to the starter. :D Now to really confused you as your going full O.E. :cooter: There actually ment to be a short bracket with a tube gromit on one end that fixes to the back of the block to hold it in place. ;) I'm guessing you proberly don't have this? :confused: As normally binned when people renew their starters. :laugh:

You "should" have a white wire with a female spade end that triggers the starter! I can't seem to find a picture to help show, maybe some one else will or if I can find what I done with my old loom il get a picture for you buddy. :agree:

http://i1344.photobucket.com/albums/...ps33a91192.jpg

This might help you a little more. :agree:

(Blue Haynes Manual page 252.)

http://i1344.photobucket.com/albums/...ps61ed9280.jpg

GTT bottom rad hose is supposed to have that spring fitted. Not seen springs in any GTT coolant hose other than that.

After fuming to dispare with my local dealer as i`m trying to replace all coolant hoses with original ones, all the part numbers I give them are no longer serviced !! I have top and bottom rad hoses, but that`s it !!
Where can I get a decent set of engine hoses?? samco now do matt black classic look hoses, but the rad hoses are about £150 for 2 !!!!!!!

Are the chinese copies crap or worth a look?? also radiators from valeo are £215+vat !!! where can I get a good oe looking one?? :confused::confused:

I bought a valeo rad about 2 months ago from valeo through sutton auto factors at 189 vat iincluded!!

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After fuming to dispare with my local dealer as i`m trying to replace all coolant hoses with original ones, all the part numbers I give them are no longer serviced !! I have top and bottom rad hoses, but that`s it !!
Where can I get a decent set of engine hoses?? samco now do matt black classic look hoses, but the rad hoses are about £150 for 2 !!!!!!!

Are the chinese copies crap or worth a look?? also radiators from valeo are £215+vat !!! where can I get a good oe looking one?? :confused::confused:

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have you try mike or cgb ?? pop up on ebay sometimes :) also give me numbers I can try my dealer , I use dialogys for my numbers :)

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dale can get rads

Yeah tried ringing Mike, but he`s away till next week, I`ve yet to buy anything off him, but there`s always good comments about him so I might give him a try?

CGB (tricky one) I`ve had very mixed results with them, some stuff ok, some other stuff over priced crap and expensive postage!

Any help on genuine mint/new coolant hoses ???

Also I need to source a exhaust system in good condition, can`t seem to get a sensible priced new one so if any one has a stainless used one and its not to big then please PM me.......

Started work on restoration of engine wiring loom shield, blasted shield and ready for painting (I`m I sad or what) !!

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Started work on restoration of engine wiring loom shield, blasted shield and ready for painting (I`m I sad or what) !!

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Nope not sad at all mate, once this is finished this will be one of the nicest 5's in the uk :)

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One of the lads on the Fb site has just bought a set. The ones he got are awful, bleed valves that were solid and runs that were too short. Maybe not all like that but why take the chance when you have put in so much time and effort to get everything perfect.

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Yeah tried ringing Mike, but he`s away till next week, I`ve yet to buy anything off him, but there`s always good comments about him so I might give him a try?

CGB (tricky one) I`ve had very mixed results with them, some stuff ok, some other stuff over priced crap and expensive postage!

Any help on genuine mint/new coolant hoses ???

Also I need to source a exhaust system in good condition, can`t seem to get a sensible priced new one so if any one has a stainless used one and its not to big then please PM me.......

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on your coolant hoses i know your going for oe but would you consider silicone hosing?

with my efi conversion i really wanted it to look oe so i just bought black silicone hoses, same oe look and the performance of a silicone hose?

sfs silicone hoses do them in black

I`ve been working on cooling system this week and a few more pipes arrived from France, I think the long one is a air pipe (not sure) when I start refitting them i`ll post all the genuine part numbers I managed to get hold of!!

PS I have both of the little carb coolant hoses now, so will post a list of genuine hose numbers when I have all the ones I can get from Renualt.

So many new items :smokin: looks great.

My local Renault has a few original hoses still in stock, purchased a lot of his old stock but when it was around £50 a hose for some reason I didn't buy it.

Simply stunning what a great read but how the hell did you get your engine and associated gubbings that clean? all looks like new a credit to your efforts :)

If I can`t replace it with new, I replate everything or blast it then re-paint, every screw/nut and washer is new, every hose clip is new, I spend hours washing parts and I`ve been doing this on my drive with no garage for over 4 years!! (crazy hey)

I just love the little thing, you never know one day it might move! :crap:

did you get that link I sent you? I put this up on an Irish site, the comments are flattering

I met John and saw this car today.The attention to detail he does is something else.:agree:.This is going to be one really nice 5 when it's finished.Credit to you bud.:)

Brilliant thread this. Im amazed at all the genuine parts your managing to get from Renault? Your parts guy must be special! :agree:

Once again, thank you for all the nice comments about my car. Luke (pigsnake) came over and showed me what a finished one should look like! Lovely car and lovely guy.
I would like to thank him for his time and patience on Saturday.

Put a few more parts on the car, but need a question answering about the oil cooler pipes, I`ve bolted them up to the new radiator but they still move around and are they supposed to be like that??

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Once again, thank you for all the nice comments about my car. Luke (pigsnake) came over and showed me what a finished one should look like! Lovely car and lovely guy.
I would like to thank him for his time and patience on Saturday.

Put a few more parts on the car, but need a question answering about the oil cooler pipes, I`ve bolted them up to the new radiator but they still move around and are they supposed to be like that??

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yes mate

Is that, Yes mate the oil pipes do move around a bit? I just don`t want them spraying oil all over the engine bay!!

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Is that, Yes mate the oil pipes do move around a bit? I just don`t want them spraying oil all over the engine bay!!

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they should have side to side play in the square part of the fitting , ,as long the fitting is tight in the rad you will not get any oil any where

Yes, they are tight, but I have movement at the square end unions, if that`s normal then I`m happy. Thanks for your help. :)

I had a few hours on the car today in between rain showers!! A few current engine bay pictures to show slow progress!!

Can anyone tell me if I have the alternator wiring right? fitted new engine loom today!!:crap:

I've been looking at pics of my bay to see if I can answer (I can't) and though not perfect I thought my bay was quite clean but the pictures above are a different level, must get my zinc finishes redone.

Thoroughly entertaning read, and an awesome car. Surely the cleanest in the club?

If I was in any doubt as to what colour to paint mine, I'm certainly not now. Glacier brings out the best in the 5. OE in white=perfect.

Totally agree,I've always thought glacier is the best colour,and I've never owned one:cry:
The question is are you going to use it when it's finished or is it going to be a garage queen?

Alternator wireing is correct :)

Due to job loss this car is now for sale or I will mothball it for 12 months and start again, please see classifieds if interested or pm me, you can look through this thread to see the level of restoration.

Deeply saddened by this but if someone wants a concourse one which needs a little finishing off them please make an offer.

Car can be delivered to mainland UK for 25p per mile..:sad2:

VALE mate that is not good at all. I've been following your post from day one and was my kick up the arse to go and get another 5.

Surely you can just stop spending money on the 5 and put it away like you say.

Like Simon says, put it away, put things together without spending money on it, and hopefully find a job in the meantime, or push comes, sell off some of the new items to bring in the money but keep the car as a whole, as amount of time and effort gone into this car will be such a waste to give it away.

The car is now sold, sorry.........

Thank you for everyones kind comments and help over the past few years, you never know, when things improve I might be back?;)

Thank you and goodnight x

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The car is now sold, sorry.........

Thank you for everyones kind comments and help over the past few years, you never know, when things improve I might be back?;)

Thank you and goodnight x

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Glad you got what you wanted Vale, and i hope the new owner carries on the work you have carried out :D

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...and you're apologising? I can't imagine how you must be feeling :eek:

As I'm just about to start a resto, this news makes me feel very despondent!
Does everyone who almost reaches their goal just end up selling on their
masterpieces? :scratch: It seems so.

Regards,
Steve

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...and you're apologising? I can't imagine how you must be feeling :eek:

As I'm just about to start a resto, this news makes me feel very despondent!
Does everyone who almost reaches their goal just end up selling on their
masterpieces? :scratch: It seems so.

Regards,
Steve

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Well technically yes, as people who do this kind of restore will never be happy with the finish. I am forever searching for new original parts to put on my car.

I considered buying this car! But didn't for 2 reasons:

1. Its just so be beautiful i'd be scared to drive/leave/use it
2. I lost my heart to a scabby Raider 10+ years ago now

Congratulations to the new owner! And comiserations to Vale

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...and you're apologising? I can't imagine how you must be feeling :eek:

As I'm just about to start a resto, this news makes me feel very despondent!
Does everyone who almost reaches their goal just end up selling on their
masterpieces? :scratch: It seems so.

Regards,
Steve

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Nah, not always, are gt turbo's ever 100% finished?! half the fun ;)

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Nah, not always, are gt turbo's ever 100% finished?! half the fun ;)

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indeed.. they didn't come finished from the factory...:laugh:

New poster! (less than 10 posts)

Spent an hour looking over the 5 today with mixed feelings. There is so much left and parts to source and things that I thought were completed still need sorting. Connected a battery to find windows don't work, central locking doesn't work, main beam doesn't work, interior lights don't work, Heater fan very noisy, some bodywork needs finishing, Front suspension sit's very high and the camber doesn't look right ( new shocks springs and lower arms from cgb fitted) all on top of the other work that still needs to be finished. (interior, door locks, carb, turbo, intercooler, pipework, exhaust, fuel pipes etc) On a + note i'm very happy with the body work and underside it's very good. when it's done I know I will love it as i'm loving it already:). Have sent turbo away for re ferb, found a brand new carb and intercooler so hopefully will have all the parts now to get it running.

Just 1 question where the clutch cable comes out of the bulk head should it run in front of the steering coloum then along the sub frame or behind it and along the subframe?

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New poster! (less than 10 posts)

Just 1 question where the clutch cable comes out of the bulk head should it run in front of the steering coloum then along the sub frame or behind it and along the subframe?

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Run it where it wants to be without too many tight bends

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Run it where it wants to be without too many tight bends

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Do it properly mate. It runs in brackets and clips behind the rack on the subframe then along the passenger side chassis leg.

I hope you will continue the level of effort that Vale has put in. Attention to detail is awesome!

:agree:

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got Some new shiny parts for the 5 today ( new carb, new fog lights, new intercooler) thanks to Dale aka bigfoot:). And got my turbo reconditioned. I now have all the parts to get her running. :)

Nice meeting up with you Martyn, sounds promising with amount of work going into the car, and looking forward to seeing the progress. Cheers

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New poster! (less than 10 posts)

got Some new shiny parts for the 5 today ( new carb, new fog lights, new intercooler) thanks to Dale aka bigfoot:). And got my turbo reconditioned. I now have all the parts to get her running. :)

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There's a few quid spent right there..

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Don't tell the misses. I told her it was £50 the lot more like £950;)

I have hunted high and low for a new intercooler. Nice

I've been looking for a new oe intercooler. Seems they are hard to find :(

Well spent the day working on the 5 today to take it that next step and try and get it running but every step forward I made I took 3 back
First job fit servo hose 5 min job but found servo upside down so had to remove master cylinder and refit servo.
Fitted coolant hoses, fitted turbo and down pipe with all brackets, Fitted carb, Replaced cracked fuel pipes and fitted clips on all other pipes, Fitted plug leads etc all ok.
Now lets see if it starts. It didn't.
Fuel pump not running so checked feed n earth to pump both ok so pump us. Fitted another pump now I have fuel :) but still wont start.
Checked for spark -ok
Checked compressions -ok
Checked valve clearences found all way out so adjusted still wont start.
Checked timing found distributor drive 180 degrees out so put right
WOO HOO SHE STARTS. :)
Checked oil feed to turbo found no oil getting to turbo. Fitted another oil feed pipe all ok now. Needs new 1 way valve in pipe
Topped up with coolant found water pump leaking
Also oil pressure gauge is reading very low and oil light flickers when idling so need to test oil pressure. That was my day today.
Next step test oil pressure, Replace water pump, fit new 1 way valve in oil pipe. Get running right :crap:

What should the oil pressure be?
If it's low what could cause it as it's had a engine rebuild. Would it just be an oil pump?. How difficult is it to replace oil pump? What drives the pump?

Ref : oil pressure, if you talking about the standard dash gauge? I wouldn't worry about it, if any, your lucky it works atall. :laugh: Best way to check is to plum in a after market mechanical one in the turbo oil feed line. Quick and simple. :agree:

As above, if there is an issue with the pressure, then the pump would be the first place to look, new internals usually sort out the problem, sometimes the pump housings can be the issue. Complete oil pumps are either daft money or no longer available, stay away from the cheap new ones on e-bay.

They make the same pressure as a gtt pump but can't provide enough flow;)

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As above, if there is an issue with the pressure, then the pump would be the first place to look, new internals usually sort out the problem, sometimes the pump housings can be the issue. Complete oil pumps are either daft money or no longer available, stay away from the cheap new ones on e-bay.

They make the same pressure as a gtt pump but can't provide enough flow;)

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cgb do an oil pump it's £125+vat says it's refurbished genuine Renault oil pump which includes new vein and rotor. Are they any good?
Or genuine Renault 1 is £365+ vat :crap:

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cgb do an oil pump it's £125+vat says it's refurbished genuine Renault oil pump which includes new vein and rotor. Are they any good?
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All depends what you want really. £365 isn't cheap, but you know it's going to work. Like anything reconditioned- you occasionally get a bad one.

In my experience- unless you know the item to be perfect and of good quality then don't fit it. I've been bitten in the ass many times with "recon" spares. I call them spray and pray spares.

My advice- genuine if you can.

Is that 365 with discount , ??? Good price , always helps if you get good discount at renault

Help needed again.......Checked my oil pressure today to find only 2 bar oil pressure when cold at 4000rpm so not very good at all :crap:. Turning out to be a never ending project. Gonna have to get the sump off this weekend and have a look at the oil pump. Could anything else cause low oil pressure? Bit worried as it has had a bottom end engine rebuild costing £500 and new valves etc. When I blow through the banjo bolt hole in the block I get no pressure build up. You can hear the air blowing out the filler cap/ breather system. Could it be the oil pressure valve stuck open in the pump? or something else. The last thing I want to do is buy a new pump and find it has something else causing it

Sorted oil pressure problems so now we are back on track to get this baby up and running :)

Had a good day working on the 5 today. Engine up and running and is almost finished just a few clips to fit. :) and the heat shield when the exhaust gets finished.

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Wow nice work , what was the issue with the oil pressure

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Sorted oil pressure problems so now we are back on track to get this baby up and running :)

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Honestly Martyn, don't you think that _how_or _why_ this was sorted would be the
_most_ useful information for anyone reading this thread? So often, I read of things being
solved but no explanation of the how and / or why.

Sorry, but isn't that a point of having a forum in the first place..? Rant over...

Regards,
Steve

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Honestly Martyn, don't you think that _how_or _why_ this was sorted would be the
_most_ useful information for anyone reading this thread? So often, I read of things being
solved but no explanation of the how and / or why.

Sorry, but isn't that a point of having a forum in the first place..? Rant over...

Regards,
Steve

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https://www.rtoc.org/boards/showthread.php?t=36033

Its all in there ;)
It might be worth looking first before having a rant at the poor guy :scratch:

Thanks jonny5

For those who don't know the oil pressure problem was due to some num nut not building the engine properly and fitted the wrong size main bearing shells. Caused me a lot of problems.

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It might be worth looking first before having a rant at the poor guy :scratch:

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Excuse me, but I have quoted two fully consecutive thread postings. How am I, or anyone
else, to know that the answer is in a totally different thread? Not everyone consumes all
that there is to read on here, and why would we?

I stand by my original post! This isn't the first time I've come across this kind of labyrinthian
jump on here... :(

Regards,
Steve

Some more work done on 5 today. Fitted exhaust system, front bumper, fog lights, compensator valve, Bled the brakes 3 times but pedal is still a bit spongy, Red carpet and front seats fitted. Took it down the road today and done 10 miles in it with no major problems.
Got slight exhaust blow from down pipe area and need to re bleed brakes again. It did seem a little slow as if not getting full boost so need to have that looked at. But overall very pleased with how this weekend has gone :):) ( Had 5 forward gears and 1 reverse, both fans cut in as they should and no major leaks, Got home without being towed home :agree: )

Been long over due but spent the day on the 5 today and it's 98% finished :) :) :)

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Fantastic, looks the absolute lick! Well worth your recent efforts Martyn :)

Go on, treat us to a 'to-do' list telling us what the 2% consists of :D

Get those rear seat belts tucked into the holding slots, some tyre dressing on, tow-eye cover sorted, speaker grille bonded on, plastic battery cover, suspension turret cap for the off-side.....so close now :yeah:

Lovely resto :)

Really love this car, my ideal standard 5.

to do list
1, fit towing eye cover and cable tie it on
2, nsf door card needs replacing
3, fit radio and speakers
4, engine tune up
5, fit turbo heat shield
6, fit fuse link to anti perc fan
7, full polish
8, MOT
9, see how fast it goes
10, Fit correct front springs as it sits too high

This project was started October 2009 so it's taken a very long time lol. You can't rush quality I say:coffee: :) :coffee:

A great looking car. Very impressive dear sir!

It's a shame John didn't get to complete it after all the hard work, so close. But that's been finished beautifully with the attention to detail a credit, lovely.

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It's a shame John didn't get to complete it after all the hard work, so close. But that's been finished beautifully with the attention to detail a credit, lovely.

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It is a shame he didn't finish the project he started many years ago. it's never nice having to give something up only half done but it still needed a lot of money chucked at it and I think I've spent 70 hrs + getting it to this stage. (would hate to think how many hrs John put into it)

The problem with projects if you loose interest it never gets finished or if you run out of money it doesn't get finished and I think that's where John was with it.

Has been hard work but I've never lost interest even when everything was going wrong.

I've tried to keep the standard as best as I could and think it's looking good.

All I need now is a few sunny days so I can use it.

Will meet up with you Julian soon if you want as your just down the road from me. Will be good to put the two 5's together

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That would good but remember J510 is a fair-weather kind of girl as well. Are you planning to do any shows this summer?

That's looks lovely, full respect to you and the previous owner :)

NB: Are phase 2 rear side cards going on the to do list ;)

Looks very nice mate. Glad to see its nearly finished.:agree: I saw this car when John had it and I know he was gutted when he sold it. I will Look forward to seeing it in the flesh.:)

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That's looks lovely, full respect to you and the previous owner :)

NB: Are phase 2 rear side cards going on the to do list ;)

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If I can get some. Like rocking horse shit tho

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Going to French car show n mite try n do some more. Are you doing any?

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Hopefully this, Prescott and some others.

Lovely project Martyn, I too know how these projects can take a 'little while', although I'm just trying to make mine go quickly round corners!

Interesting to read about your Oil Pressure issue. I currently have an issue that I'm trying to resolve and fear that a bottom end rebuild may be on the cards?

A quick point on the bottom end rebuild. I bought some main journal bearing shells (Vandervell) and they had the correct P/N on the box, but the wrong size in the box! In my case mine were too small so I knew straight away when the crank wouldn't fit!

Clearance checks should still be done twice after fitment to confirm everything is as it should be, so it doesn't really make any excuses for the poor quality of the rebuild?

Keep up the good work mate, the car is looking fantastic!

Woz

Putting my fully restored completely standard car in mint condition up for sale

No expence has been spared with the rebuild with the finest of detail taken place. ( I'd hate to think how much money and how many man hours has gone into this)
The reason I'm putting it up for sale is I really could do with the space and need a car I can use daily and not worry about it getting damaged wet or dirty.
For more information you can call me on 07789431252 or email me on martynpetrie73@yahoo.co.uk. ( I may not reply to emails instantly as I do work during the day)
£6750

ive replied on the classified, please see there, thanks, matt.

I'd move quick, I've a feeling this will sell fast.

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agree buddy....just have to convince Sadie tonight that 5...5`s is ok....:D

Mmm good luck matty. :agree:

Hi Everyone, It`s John here the guy that started this project and put blood sweat and tears into it before I reluctantly had to sell it 80% finished!

Martyn if I had the money I would buy it back! I often think back to the hours and hours of painstaking restoration I put into that little car. Great to see it finished though! I`ve made a point of not looking on RTOC because it upset me seeing the pictures of my old car!

Congrats to however buys the car, you will NOT be disappointed!!!!

Regards

John