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looking good, what's the benifit over the last one?
lots bigger more boost lol better air flow
Looks neat Glen, when's it all going back together then?
new car should be:burnrubber:on the roads in west yorkshire by jan fingers crossed
Sounds good to me pal I'll cum round for a butchers lol should have a 5 After this weekend all bin well. Have you re shelled it then?
on with it just been doing cage etc will get some photo,s up soon if you want to call in not a problemQuote:
Originally Posted by Andyturbo!
Nice one pal!:agree:
That inlet manifold I want one :eek:
glenn that looks really good and if it sees some gains then its a win win, out of interest have you fount that the standard inlet has become restrictive at a certain power level or psi ?
Looking good Glen.. If you don't mind me asking, who do you get to do your manifolds? If you don't want to say hear PM me..
O and get some pics up of the new car :agree:
Tidy bit of work that :agree:
the story of glens life... from the limited amount of times ive spoke to him.
"more boost"
Looks good mate :agree:
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Originally Posted by djinuk
Lol too right mate I got that impression and I've only met glen once:laugh:
my self pal and have a couple of things machinedQuote:
Originally Posted by Dave Reed
wow!!! looks brilliant mate :agree:
i was always slightly jealous of your old mani tbh
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Originally Posted by Hi 5
Good work there Glen :agree:
thank you pal i do try from time to time me and scoff have just finished cage today once it painted i will get some pictures up.:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dave Reed
some pictures https://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.p...809958&thumb=1https://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.p...809958&thumb=1https://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.p...809958&thumb=1hope there are ok for you mr reed:D
Great work mate I take it you will be moving the goal posts a bit more next year :cooter:
Top stuff love the cage :agree:
Phil
Nice to see you went for red car there mate! ;)
Looking good so far mate, looking forward to seeing it all done
i hope so i will be trying lolQuote:
Originally Posted by philr5t
red is the new whiteQuote:
Originally Posted by Markey Mark (BD)
OMG!!.... amazing works!!!....
you are the number 1!!:agree::agree:
Indeed it is ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Hi 5
Glad I got a red one now ;) nice one glen
Some more from welding the cage in (ball ache! couldn't walk the following day)
some real neat welding there.. makes my 205 cage look a bit like dog ****.., let alone pidgeon!
TOP JOB! Im Well impressedQuote:
Originally Posted by Scoff
welding was very good thanks to scoff shame is getting abit old know lol
been really busy at work again today good job i work for myself or i would have been sacked by now
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It's looking cracking! Glen. Have u resprayed her?
know that would be telling lol all new panels from franceQuote:
Originally Posted by Andyturbo!
Nice job Glen looking good now bud.
Lol if you have u can do mine, looks great palQuote:
Originally Posted by Hi 5
long long long job had shell for last 18 months palQuote:
Originally Posted by Andyturbo!
You can tel mate it's looks awesome in th pics, can't wait to see it in the fleshQuote:
Originally Posted by Hi 5
10 points to anyone who spotted the the cage had to be modified once glenn realised he couldn't fit in the car anymore :laugh: Que us cutting out the middle bar and replacing it with a curved one so he could get the seat further back. It's a great shell, the straightest GT I've seen for a long time.
Lol nice one! Lanky sod
no pal too many pies fat boy long :D:D:D:D:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Andyturbo!
:laugh:...oi` glen , answer ya phone...:laugh:, ill text ya tom at 8am....;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Hi 5
where was my text this morning :cooter:Quote:
Originally Posted by jesus in the seat of a 5
75feet up a willow tree going sideways....:laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hi 5
:laugh: Nice one!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hi 5
Yay another red one with white wheels, someone might mistake it for mine :D doubles my value :agree:
Just looked on your profile mate, car looks mint on white wheels, did u go to the last rolling road day at wgt? Think I remember seeing itQuote:
Originally Posted by Tony Walker
Thanks :) Its taken along time, not quite mint, but solid atleast lol.
I did pop along to the rr day with my son but couldnt stay long.
Thort I'd seen your 5, notice on you or profile you have side decals to go on, where did u get them from mate, r they original coloursQuote:
Originally Posted by Tony Walker
Had them for probably 1-2 years, not quite got round to fitting them, a member used to do them but there not original and not replicas there just a close resemblance really lol. I think your new purchase would look great with some originals but i kno there expensive now :( still looks fantastic without :D would love an original looking 5.
Cheers mate its something I wana do but they changed the colours for red cars and I'm not keen on how they look
yeah, i like them but each to there own, dont let the OE peer pressure get to you, make it the way you like it :D
Sorry for the hi jack hi 5, i think we should do a group buy on your manifold :agree:
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Originally Posted by Tony Walker
Yeah sorry glen lol, I won't mate, defo wana keep it looking oe on outside tho
New poster! (less than 10 posts)
car looks sweet mate definetly looking forward to seeing this about:agree:
been doing a little more today i have done no work this week all for myself lol
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and a big thanks to tony hart from prima racing for moulding me the bumper and arches took a long time to fit them but worth it as i came now run 245 50 15 so i can do ten of the best this year coming made front bumper quick release and made arches fit same as standard ones car is finaly coming together just skint for spending all week on the car lol:D
Looks awesome glen, I so! Can't wait to see this in action, I go to totb every year mate wud Be great to see it there
new t2 turbo lol https://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.p...064515&thumb=1
Top work Glenn. Love the standard wide kit! :agree:
Can u point me in the right direction for your quick release fittings on the bumpers? :)
nothing special just a lot of messing about with bonnet pinsQuote:
Originally Posted by TrixNFlix
Looks amazing, but why didn't you remove any of the sound deading or cut away the inside of the doors? saves quite a bit of weight.
after running the white one with perspex windows for the last for years i wanted to keep the glass and not a lot of weight to be saved as you would need to lose 50 kilos to gain 2mph trap and .2 of a second the white car wheel spin to after the 1/8 at pod thinking of adding more weight this year to aid grip for this new one and the new rules for esc the new car needs to weight 60 kilos more than white oneQuote:
Originally Posted by elcie
Ahh ok cheers Glenn, I'll bodge something together! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Hi 5
all you need to buy are flush fit bonnet pins i bought them of ebay 11 postedQuote:
Originally Posted by TrixNFlix
the red bonnet and original front wheel arches are for sale if anyone is intrested mint condition
the bumper and arches i got from tony i had to twist his arm up his back to sell them to me as they are only a shell and you have to make all your own mounting and shape them to fit properly so as he has a big company to run he did me a favour so sorry to upset anyone that it may
just a little update been doing a little more on the car coming on arches looks loads better painted
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been on with a little more just a update if anyone is intrested
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Looking good pal, keep em coming.:agree:
whats that evil looking thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hi 5
just a little turbo for the 1.4 :DQuote:
Originally Posted by 6129
Looking good glen :agree:, yeah wot spec is that squirrel mincer!
now then that would be telling lol carnt tell everythingQuote:
Originally Posted by Andyturbo!
I know that compressor wheel, from the size, but who knows what's on the back end...
Lol wotever the spec, it looks a beast!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hi 5
Getting there mate!! :agree:
Looking mint buddy I shall call in today if your around :)
Looking spot on Glenn! Look forward to seeing it run :)
Looks like plenty of time and effort has gone into this build! Top darts!
Good to see your still pushing on with the c1j also ;)
i was so tempted to go with a big spec vw engine which i had allready built costing well over £5000...... but still going to make the first 10 sec c1j i hope lol its just a lot funnier at comps when you tell them its only a 1.4 makes me smileQuote:
Originally Posted by GTphil
I know we'll all be made up when u break in to the 10's... its gonna happen this year.
It'll be awesome to see a 5 in the 10's but are you gunna be able to get that big blower spooling before the quarter mile is over ?
Thats the cure for wheelspin, takes 3 gears to get going.
LolQuote:
Originally Posted by Tony Walker
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Originally Posted by Hi 5
A 10 second c1j would seriously be some achivement..............in fact it's the type of achivement that most people don't belive untill they see it with their own eyes:laugh:
dont forget the .. 1.4 pushrod motor :P :cooter:
i have done 20+ 11.0 sec quaters so 10 should not be long but i have been saying that for 6 months lolQuote:
Originally Posted by GTphil
i can make that turbo have 35psi boost in first gear at 4500rpm its call gas :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Os8472
haha you love the gas fella :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hi 5
lol rediculous. pretty sure that much pressure would pop my head through the bonnet
Can't wait to see this run hands down to you Glenn keep up the good work
Good progress Glen, car looks awesome :agree::agree: So 10's this year yeah? Be about fecking time :wasntme::D:D
I'm going for 8's next :p
cheers pal 8s you got something up your sleave then lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Dave Reed
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Originally Posted by Hi 5
I sure have buddy ;) It wont be a Renault or FWD though :( lol
I'll prob be retiring me old girl this year, will be end of an era :cry: Hope I can keep hold of her, the new build is taking up most of me funds, fast...
have u not considered a VNT mine made 35psi at 3k by accident, or is the flow different to a big daddy blower?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hi 5
have you tryed spolling a gt 30 rs on a 1.4 engine lol vnt not for me palQuote:
Originally Posted by markey b
been doing a little more on car today trying manifold on its a big one lol not much room between master cylinder and manifold
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bigger pictures on my profile
car has gone for new exhaust manifold making and new 3in exhaust carnt wait to see what it will look like under the bonnet :D:D:D:D:D:D
me either :agree:
just got picture of new manifold and down pipe its a work of art a big thanks to SSE
top job am over the moon
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That manifold and downpipe look amazing! Who's SSE?
have you not heard scoff sport exhausts
Well I sorta guessed it might have something to do with him hehe
Art work Glenn, art work!:cool:
That last pic is pure porn!:eek: looking good glen
not much room for the full 3"downpipe & exhaust in there, with the kinda power your looking for its definetly worth the effort :goodJob:
is this being built purely for drag racing?
I see you have done away with the fan for the heaters on the Bulkhead , what you going to do for de-misting the windows ?
ive been really considering getting rid of mine or trying to duct it in a tidy way just cant decide what to do :confused: even considering a remote fan of some kind .
Looking good :agree: goto be a 10 in there now :)
still going to be a road car now as far as the windscreen go,s ive got some one trying to make me a heated windscreenQuote:
Originally Posted by Mudslinger
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Originally Posted by Hi 5
never thought about that nice idea :cool:
i stripped the dash and loom out mine the day and was surprised how much weight is in that heater box :) i think id like try to keep the heater in situ maybe try rerouting the pipework somehow . bit more room in the enginebay and i dont need to worry about waterpipes running along the back of the manifold /downpipe
id love to lose the servo aswell but thats another £££ job i cant afford at the moment :crap:
:agree: well done lads looking good
started to pipe up cooler today and had brooky helping out on oil cooler pipes
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stunning! :agree: brilliant work glen!
Looking quality glen have you changed your throttle body from the last manifold set up :agree:
same throttle body as last time it was too big for the last one but mint for new oneQuote:
Originally Posted by philr5t
Glen, looks awesome:agree:
Out of curiosity looks like you may need a twin pas intercooler? also why does the exhaust manifold not have equal length pipes? Just curious, awesome project:agree::D. Keep up the top work?
manifold is made to flow better than the ktec one.. which i carnt do in equallenght to do this.. flow is more important ....... intercooler:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by James5
Just admiring the engine bay of you car in the pics again glen and sorry if I sound stupid but is there a stud missing from the rocker shaft mate that comes up through the rocker cover is this a secret mod
lol no head needs to come back off just a reminder for me :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by philr5t
Lol I thought there would be a reason for it mate ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Hi 5
IC pipe run just looks long as your TB is the other side of the engine that's all, just curious as to why things were done, your car is an inspiration matey :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hi 5
Sorry was wanting to sound like a dick am just intrigued that's all:D
had a good day on the today thanks to ash helping out with hoses at cost top job and thanks to r5 scotty for strut brace anyway some more pictures to bore you with
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Looking good glen :agree: getting full in the bay now lol. Was thinking of using some ash hoses on mine
i have used them for years and never had a problem with them now got a little sponcershipQuote:
Originally Posted by Andyturbo!
from them rob has really looked after me this time
Nice one mate will defo give them a go thenQuote:
Originally Posted by Hi 5
Looks fantastic, really looking forward to you getting 10s :agree:
cheers 10s not even thinking about them lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Tony Walker
Straight down to 9's? :burnrubber:
lol i was thinking the same...... sod the 10s then?
i wish :D:D:D 10.8 will do
New setup looks awesome mate!
cheers pal am tryingQuote:
Originally Posted by Brigsy
loving the progress being made here fella, another r5gtt into the 10s coming soon :agree:
it looks like it will do a 10 but time will tellQuote:
Originally Posted by BluntyR5GTT
i think you will have all of the club willing you into the 10s mate. what sort of power are you expecting with the new set up?
depends how much power it makes of gas then see how much gas i can ram in but i want more than before :DQuote:
Originally Posted by BluntyR5GTT
haha you and that gas :laugh:
it makes roughly 300bhp on the old spec off gas doesnt it? bloody impressive for a 1.4 ;)
not enough pal need more son. poor scoff got to work his magic this time with that big blower lolQuote:
Originally Posted by BluntyR5GTT
im pretty sure scoff will more than enjoy that challenge
:agree:looking loads better i can manage to get a sturt brace on again.doing oil cooler pipes tonight and making new airfilter will update photo,s later
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at last my custom springs and top caps arrived so managed to get a little more done on the car as well as some fueling a little behind shedule :D
great project nice exhaust manifold. should of said as i have a spare tubular manifold i was thinking of selling :agree:
The manifold is custom to take the GT30 :)Quote:
Originally Posted by allanr5gtt
i didn,t want to say that it was no good and turbo would not fit bQuote:
Originally Posted by Scoff
been doing a little more today really need to get it done
should imagine theres some scaffolding supporting the weight of it
me or the turbo lol:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony Walker
:D
Looking good fella! What coil packs are you running?
4x aem wasted sparkQuote:
Originally Posted by Ron
how come you need 4 if its wasted spark?
when we went over 100bhp of gas and 36psi of boost it used to blow the spark out every time we tried tooQuote:
Originally Posted by Tony Walker
crazy lol :laugh:
Its individual coils tony, each is a high-output coil with inbuilt ignitor. The problem with making a lot of power from a small engine is that it's very hard to keep the spark going. With the 4x coils on glenns engine the air:fuel can be down in the 9s and it'll still pull clean as a whistle :)
Here's the link Ron in case you fancy a read :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron
http://www.efi-parts.co.uk/index.php?productID=258
been really busy car 90% done just wiring loom and mapping
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Thumbnails??? thats just teasing, show us the real deal :D
i carnt upload them to site god knows ? pm me your no and i will text themQuote:
Originally Posted by Tony Walker
cheers for the offer but i cant open pics on my phone, stupid sim card wont work the internet since i swapped it. im sure you'll find a way? photo bucket or something?
I upload pics thro the photobucket app oh my iPhone glen, really easy way to do it if you have one?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hi 5
how please still cant do it:sad2:rQuote:
Originally Posted by Andyturbo!
going for the wiring loom in the morning carn,t wait
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i got the app for imageshack and its so much easier than on the pcQuote:
Originally Posted by Andyturbo!
Possibly the best C1J engine bay i've seen pal. Well done!:agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hi 5
The detail and engineering in this in this car/engine is just perverse!
I love it :agree: :smokin:
Take a pic on ur iPhone, transfer it into photobucket then click on the pic u wana upload, click on the small I (info) in the bottom right corner of your screen then copy and paste the img code into a thread, bang! Pics should be upQuote:
Originally Posted by Hi 5
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Originally Posted by Andyturbo!
You are a legend anyone else struggling to get pics up this is the way:)
No probs mate :)Quote:
Originally Posted by westy94
thats a very busy looking engine bay:devil: are we going to see this at york dragway at some point?
Jesus!!!:) Like It
Very very soon pal http://i1171.photobucket.com/albums/...g/5ae2da1b.jpg
drooling.
2 seats?
Looks great Glen, :agree:
Passenger ridesQuote:
Originally Posted by Tony Walker
What you charge?? :D Think you'd probably need to clean it afterwards.
I won't charge but pod charge £10 for passenger for the day in any carQuote:
Originally Posted by Tony Walker
Passenger rides!!! Can't wait to see this car in the flesh glen, looks awesome! And it's red! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Tony Walker
car looks immaculate :agree::agree::agree:
cant wait to see this beast fly up pod :devil: just as long as im not in the lane nxt to it :cry:
Glenn's done a great job, he's made lots of little improvements over last years car. Not bad for a painter ;)
He brought it over today for wiring. Maybe we'll be in a position to start mapping next week, that would be good. We'll try and grab some video of the progress. :)
this car is amazing its an absolute credit to all involved, and wow what an engine bay :)
defo need some vids of this being mapped and final power runs
Thanks all it's been a very hard week flat out on the car or lass has been working on it too so a big thanks to me are lass and scoff hope it go's like it looks lol
As has been said this build looks absolutly fantastic!! The engine Bay is almost unrecognisable as a c1j but that's what's most definatly there!
big thumbs up to all involved:agree:
Just one question. How on earth do you get your mrs to work on your car???!!! :eek:
alot of hardwork gone into that glen :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hi 5
hope you get the results your aiming for this year , you deserve it :agree:
Well trained and very expensive shoes lol she could build a c1j as long as boots or shoes are being boughtQuote:
Originally Posted by GTphil
Even a top view http://i1171.photobucket.com/albums/...g/18b7d3a8.jpg
lovin this thread!!:agree:
Just had some one tell me on YouTube watching my wgt 402bhp telling me the turbo on my white 5 was wrong
To be fair i doubt many people would believe the c1j would even turn it.
It was...........it was to small!:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Hi 5
i wish i had somewhere like that to work on mine lol
cracking job being done here
i was told if i had a bigger blower i would get 50bhp more just like that lol:crap:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony Walker
Looking lovely, so different from any other 5. :)
Cracking job Glen.. :agree::agree::agree: Really liking it..
This'll make you laugh... the time it's taken you to build a whole car, I've just put my head back on, that's since the last time I see you at pod :D:D
Lol hopefully been mapped tomorrow fingers crossedQuote:
Originally Posted by Dave Reed
wicked stuff mate.. Are you getting it ready for easter thunderball? Or dnt the esc run at this?
Do the C1J proud fella - We'll be rooting for ya, yer great northern chap.:smokin:
Esc not going to pass regs for this year pal back to test and tune days and days where it's not a Chav festQuote:
Originally Posted by Dave Reed
sickest engine bay ive ever seen on a 5 ! sooo jealous ! i want one :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Hi 5
Been getting car ready for mot fingers cross had a lot of niggly problems hope everything is ok nowhttp://i1171.photobucket.com/albums/...g/a5564f43.jpg
Top stuff mate have it been mapped yet :)
Wednesday night pal
Saw this beast in the flesh two weeks ago! Looks awesome.
Great stuff mate can't wait to see the results how much extra power would you like to find with your new setup over last years efi set up mate :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hi 5
What I want and what I get are 2 different things hoping for extra 30 bhpQuote:
Originally Posted by philr5t
Fingers crossed for you mate I'm sure with the new manifold designs and the bigger turbo you should be able to get there or even better if you pull more than another 30gg's are you planning to run more boost and gas this time round lol:agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hi 5
You know me every little helps 2.8 to 3 bar would be nice lolQuote:
Originally Posted by philr5t
It's true you are f***ing mad :laugh: great stuff hope all goes well when's it's first outing down a stripQuote:
Originally Posted by Hi 5
All depends on what happens on Wednesday nightQuote:
Originally Posted by philr5t
I cant believe how much wider it looks. Fantastic work.
Car pased mot today all legal for the road now taxed and ready to go
A few traffic light practices then? I can only imagine how brutal that thing will be on the road. Excellent stuff. :cool:
It will be ok to take my mum shopping in :D
Nice one glen :agree: cant wait to see this in the flesh!
Tonight we spent 6hrs on the dyno with Glenns HI5 C1J :)
The spec has changed somewhat, we knew it would be better but we did not know exactly how much better it was going to be. The improvement is just staggering, I can barely believe the results.
The evening starts with the usual part throttle/low load mapping which wasn't a million miles away from last years tune. Initial boost was about 10psi and with a bit of fine tuning I had that up to 150hp or so. 17psi saw about 200hp if I recall. 21psi made about 240hp @ 7000rpm. What's really interesting is that at 30psi the engine was still responding well to small boost increments. Last years motor did not make much extra power after 33psi and at 36psi the power was dropping off at higher RPM because it just couldn't breath all that well.
This time at 36psi we were making comfortably over 300hp and each 1psi increase was returning a notable power gain. The final result was 341hp @ just shy of 40psi boost. 279lb/ft of torque.
Some of the more skeptical will want to question the dyno result, and that is fine, I would probably do the very same. So let me tell you this: the engine is taking 95% duty from 560cc siemens deka injectors @ 3bar fuel pressure. Thats an 044 pump and fuel pressure is holding perfectly. Last year we managed about 80% if I recall. The injector duty calcs correspond with the dyno HP give or take.
Unfortunately 2 bent pushrods put an end to play late in the evening, I would have liked to try a full 3 bar of boost since the motor was still responding to increases. No spare pushrods to hand so that was that.
Hopefully next week we can think about tests with nitrous.
Hats off to Glenn for building a bomb proof motor, etc. Lets hope it does the numbers at the track too.
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Mint top night just got home 2 am thanks scoff for staying up late. top work on the mapping as normal. boost was insane. turbo, love it. I am going to bed. carny wait to see it on gas lol
Congratulations, Top Work, can´t wait to see the results with Gas :)
bloody hell great results there and to see it keep climbing at higher psi defo proves the new set up works :) congrats on a top build :D
Brilliant - I wonder if you can still get those grp A push rods from years ago, I think Collin had some, erm specially comissioned :laugh:
That is fantastic for the C1J - well done Glen:agree:
Good old C1j telling us all to '**** off' as usual!!
Well done matey, just awesome.:agree:
amazing, and good stuff, hats off to you , the engine bay looks amazing.
Very impressive setup should be a good year for GTT's on the 1/4 this year. :smokin:
wow for getting a GT30 to spool on a a little 1.4 without the NOS :D
****ing awesome mate!!! Does the power fall off after 8k or are you limiting the rpm for reliability? Looks very strong at the top
Love this car!! Soo fresh wish mine looked like that still:crap:
It's pretty healthy at 8300rpm still, doesn't seem to choke up at all :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Brigsy
:agree: Wow !!
That is one special C1J!
Well done Glenn on building an insane c1j!:D
Well done Scoff on a fantastic tune!:agree:
Pesky push rods!
Anything in hand with regards to stronger push rods?
Wow!! Really good stuff guy's, some top work there :agree:
Looking forward to seeing this beast at pod.
Impressive stuff lads :agree:
great news and well done mate absoloutly amazing cant wait to see it
and without gas :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
Nice build bud..;)
Outstanding Work Glenn The Ultimate C1j In The World:d And To Scoff For He's Mapping Skills, Fanstactic News :)
Just been out on the roads near home in it it's a animal lol carnt wait to see what it's like on gas had to come home before I loss my licence cheers for all nice comments
Epic. :eek:
Surelly you dont want to just be using standard pushrods again ?
i got these 1's made for mine
https://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.p...pictureid=4634
really makes me want to stick a bigger blower on mine , although i doubt id go anywhere near the size you are running , you are making 80hp more than mine made with T25 which ran out off puff at around 30 psi , Im guessing the big turbo will come into its own when you start running the Gas .
How long before that turbo sucks in a coil pack :p
Any testing planned over easter glen?
Mud, don't show him those, they're shiney and fancy, he'll want them right now :D
Yes maybe some better rods are needed. It used to be that we considered them a 'fuse' since it would often crack retainer caps too, and they would be evident whenever a rod needed changing. It has Ti retainers now so I think he should probably go for something like that. :)
How much we talking about and do you need to alter cylinder headQuote:
Originally Posted by Mudslinger
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Originally Posted by Hi 5
they were not really expensive tbh , i sent over a standard 1 to a V8 drag racing specialist in America not sure what they were called it was a while ago now but il try find out , At the time i couldve had 200 made but just decided to get 8 ,the head does need altered though.
Are they steel or titanium? I've often thought about doing the same, but it only takes 2 minutes to swap a bent one (if you dont mind singed fingers) so didn't sort it out! Any CNC place / machine shop should be able to spin some up in a lathe?
Nice motor Glenn!
Freakin awesome Glenn! An excellent effort mate. I look forward to seeing this on the strip again.
Personnally id say if your bending pushrods its down to to much rev's , and i think with the power and rev's Glenns is making he will forever be bending rods, they are ti pushrods which have been through a toughening process ,i use ti retainers and ive had all the rocker arms toughend so if anything is going to bend or break it will be the rocker assembly where it is fixed to the head that is cast .Quote:
Originally Posted by Alastair
Nothing to do with rpm and I don't really want ti ones neather not to worry carry on with standard ones I think thanks anyway
so if its not high revs that bend pushrods what causes it ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hi 5
Mine bends them at 5500 rpm so I would say its the 280 lbft it's a vertical climb at 40 psi of boost from a big blower. High revs and valve bounce can cause it but I don't get valve bounce on mine palQuote:
Originally Posted by Mudslinger
so are we saying its cylinder pressure that causes it? is it intake or exhausts that go usually or a mix of rods?
Both on 1 cylinder at a time but that was on last engine I have only done 2 Rods this time so far we will just have to see how it gos been using it on the road for the last 2 days and been fine with big ish power comes small problemsQuote:
Originally Posted by steer from the rear
9 times out of 10 it's high revs and valves bouncing but not this time so must be cylinder pressure ?
its probably something to do with asking too much from the pencil tin push rods..
I remember the 1st time i used the gas, i bent 1 on the first run, changed that, and bent all 8 on the next :) i just put it down to cylinder pressure, as i never used to rev mine past 7.
I did uprate them after that though and never had a problem since.
vid for ya
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG7IZWmoIvA
Awesome car! Looking forward to seeing it on the strip!
glen that looks awsum!top job:agree: lookin forward to seeing this running at the pod :burnrubber:
i see young alex in the video :) hows his f7p conversion going?
Yes ok engine is in just collecting parts to finish it of
been out driving car today what a laugh carnt drive it lol even makes plenty of boost in 1st gear :devil:are lass loved every minute of it come close a couple times over taking 1 funny moment a fait turbo come flying past me so at the next set of lights i showed him what 1.4s are made of lol he wont make that mistake again
Except your 5 isn't exactly an ordinary 1.4! Good work though!!:agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hi 5
I what way is it not a 1.4 thenQuote:
Originally Posted by GT Josh
I wasn't saying it's not a 1.4, just said it's not Ordinary. Which is aimed to be a complement because there are none like it!
Sorry miss read your thread .. ( thanks). I don't do forums as I always think people are having a dig or miss read what people rightQuote:
Originally Posted by GT Josh
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Originally Posted by Hi 5
hi glenn! did u mod the crank caps or conrods?...to attain 8k!
Nah, he just 'looks' at them and they're so sh1t scared that they do what he says :DQuote:
Originally Posted by michael tierney
If only the push rods would listen too :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Scoff
Chuckle chuckleQuote:
Originally Posted by Scoff
it says alot for the c1j!!:)
Long live the 1.4 c1jQuote:
Originally Posted by michael tierney
what about liners for 30plus psi boost?:scared:
They're steel, with steel rods and forged pistons, arp bolts, etc etc :)Quote:
Originally Posted by michael tierney
hmmmm! so its just the pushrods that dont know whether they're going up or down!!:)great results for EFI though!!....you'll have to concentrate on the economy now chris!£8 a gallon
people used to say steel liners wore quickly, have you had any notable wear on your liners or was there a certain make of steel liners that were of poor quality? or badly built engines wrong ring gaps?
No problems with them wearing tony, but it took some experimentation to find piston rings that would last. Yes, ring gaps are pretty important, they're set to what we thought would be be "about right", no problems to date!
Michael, yes just push rods being a pain but they don't fail all that often and it's a 10 min fix when then do. It would be nice to have something better in there though.
A big thanks to Mike phase 1 16v for sending up some spare rods ready for some more testing on Friday :agree:
Good luck for friday :agree: Will it be nos time?
what rings did you go for in the end? and which ones would you avoid in the future?Quote:
Originally Posted by Scoff
Really Depends On How Good The Liners Are I Had To Have Mine RefinishedQuote:
Originally Posted by allanr5gtt
oooooo yes :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Tony Walker
I may have to hang around for alittle while to see a run when i pop up tomorrowQuote:
Originally Posted by Hi 5
You helmets up the pod all weekend?
No sorry might be York for meQuote:
Originally Posted by rs250nut
Went to scoffs last night first run no gas 358 bhp then we did some gas testing 432bhp and 394 lbft wow thanks very much to scoff top man I ell up load some vids later
Awesome that matey. You going for another 50 shot of nitrous? Could see a majic 500 from good old c1j.
:agree: very very impressive ! no dramas with the pushrods thats got to be a good sign , amazing to see the gearbox takes that amount of torq ,im guessing aslong as it gets that 1 special time down pod thats all that mattersQuote:
Originally Posted by Hi 5
Well done again on that awesome power figure :agree:
Only 2 pushrods I think there is some more to be had as nos bottle was low my fault thought it was full never mindQuote:
Originally Posted by Mudslinger
Lets hope the extra power is worth 0.2 seconds;)
Just keeps on getting better and better, all this and still more to come:smokin:
vid for ya
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5Y0K_jCABc
epic! :agree:
It was a great result, really happy with how well everything is working. Things don't normally go to plan as well as this (I've jinxed it now!!)
Nitrous is doing exactly what we expected it to. There still should be scope for a bit more but it would be good to run it at its current settings for an outing and then think about trying some more for the following event maybe.
Really pleased that his engine is holding together. It should be safer too this year (famous last words ;)) because the extra flow from the new manifold and turbo (I presume this is the reason) have ment that EGT is not as scary as it was last year. Really looking forward to seeing how it goes :)
one word..... Awesome ;)
Maybe a silly question but are the results being achieved on regular 99 ron pump fuel? or race fuel?
If pump fuel, could race fuel offer yet more power?
Either way a fantastic achievement as i was only just reading a thread on here from 2009, some rally team guy was saying in his opinion no 1.4 was capable of being able to achieve near to 300bhp....oh how wrong was he :agree: :agree:
C1J porn all the way.:agree:
It was on pump fuelQuote:
Originally Posted by Jonny5
Brilliant! :worship:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hi 5
Thanks been at York drag way today splashing in puddles think I only got grip in 4 th gear lol :DGood bit of testing car drives so different to old oneQuote:
Originally Posted by Jonny5
In what way different?
Power delivery etc and just the way it drives a lot more rigid seems a lot more comfortable to drive which is good as am getting older lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Tony Walker
lol brilliant :D
Sounded badass on the strip today. Cant believe how well the gt30 spools up!! C1j power ftw
sounded super quick spooling on the roller vid.
yes really happy with the car need to be going to pod asap:burnrubber::burnrubber::burnrubber:
had a good day at york on sunday splashing in the water really good test for the car much better than last years set up :D:D:D
Put the car back on the dyno last night with full bottle of nos mint just what I wanted 445 bhp and 394 lbft lol 1.4 the future not the past 41.6 psi of boost hopefully a 10 in it now thank again the scoff for another Friday night dyno session
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hi 5
cracking work glen when will it be up the pod next :agree:
great result guys. is this still with a jb3 gearbox?
42psi???????????????????? madness. Does that seem to be the flow limit? Or is it still making good gains per psi?
I think if we did some work on boost control it might be happy to hold a bit more. It might pick some power up without gas but my gut says that whatever we might gain from additional boost we would loose in the nitrous. In other words, the exhaust valves, ports, headers, turbine can only flow so much, whether you get there through means of boost or nitrous oxide.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony Walker
Anyway I just hope now he can get a good pass in without bending pushrods. If he can, it'll be a stormer :cool:
Injectors have run out of duty so has boost controller and map sensor lol still more I think not peaked yet but enought for me for the MomentQuote:
Originally Posted by Tony Walker
Still waiting for graphics when we will be thereQuote:
Originally Posted by philr5t
I didnt think the head would flow anywhere near that sort of power. Is it just a 285 cam? whats head mods are there?
Scoff cam and loads and loads of head workQuote:
Originally Posted by Tony Walker
Amazing.
jesus glenn thats some power run 500bhp would be nice.
LMAO - I love that - someone just gets 440bhp from a 1.4 C1J then someone says ' 500 would be nice':laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by LYNCHSTAR
Just like that.
Top work Glenn / Scoff - seems a bit lazy though below 1.5k;)
Top work Glenn / Scoff - seems a bit lazy though below 1.5k;)[/QUOTE]
Tick over is a bit lazy lol
Fooksakes! from a c1j! hats off to ya glenn and scoff! :D *must not ask for the specs* :laugh::laugh:
A big list that costs a couple of quid lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Bass J
:laugh::laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hi 5
Lol! ...just a couple of quid ;)
:laugh:
well done glen...wonder what it would hillclimb like.....:laugh:
They won't allow me to run gasQuote:
Originally Posted by jesus in the seat of a 5
would probably not need the road.. just climb straight up.