As i never brought it to Nat day i thought i'd start a thread to on the Volvo conversion i'm doing, i'll update it every now and then when more is completed
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As i never brought it to Nat day i thought i'd start a thread to on the Volvo conversion i'm doing, i'll update it every now and then when more is completed
oh flippin heck:rolleyes: thats discraceful! its more porn for me eyes:D
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Originally Posted by raj
Never thought my car would get you that excited:D
oh man yo just dont know! thing is ive wanted a b18ft powered 5 for ages but never had the time to do one, so you can understand why i get a boner when i see yours:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Markey Mark (BD)
the only other one i get to see personally is the rear engined one which has been off the road ever since notnormal sold it, its been rebuilt now but unsure how far its actually got.
im assuming youve got a that wild cam fitted? did you have the exhaust manifold fabricated or did you buy it from prima?
Yeah the wild cam is i the head now and is all torqued down now to the block. At the moment its a prima exhaust ma nifold but its getting taking off and a new one fitted, i've got a few probs with it so need to fabricate a new one. Plus i don't like the Prima one anyway:)
what issues are you having with the prima one? clearance or something else? i thought with being similar to the gtt one it would be ok! it looks ok from the pics.
The quality and the fit isn't brilliant, its been extended already to move the turbo out abit more but i need it out further as the compressor housing is about 1" from the thermostat housing so can't fit a hose on. Also i got to fit the external wastegate in there too:DQuote:
Originally Posted by raj
Its going to be easier to fabricate a new one rather then mod this one plus i can position the turbo where i want.
so will you be going for a shorter manifold to turbo run.? hang on..isnt the OE manifold short.? suppose the problem with the turbo being down the back of the engine would be clearance? and more faffin around?Quote:
Originally Posted by Markey Mark (BD)
Yeah with the turbo i'm using the space down the back is limited so positioning it above the gearbox works better for me, obviously the run will be longer than standard.Quote:
Originally Posted by raj
Just to compare Haz said he didn't feel any difference between the standard manifold and the Prima one, just made getting to the turbo easier, with the new manofold i'll se if i can squeeze abit more out of it by changing the design abit.
:eek: Cooler alert :eek: Looks good, awsome:agree:..... You going for a mani design to the one said in PM a while ago?.... The only changed id do is move the battery to other side to spread the weight more over the front wheels.....
looks good:smokin: is that still the one from many moons ago?
Yeah the cooler is abit big isn't it:D I'm thinking of that manifold mate just working out where the best place for the turbo is first before i build or mod one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob@Backyardracing
On;y reason battery is in that place is because header tank other parts will be living on the other side so hopefully the weight will be even, if not it'll go just behind the passenger seat.
Its still the same red one i had when i met you boys in the pub near windsor, if your thinking of the blue one that was sold over a year ago now.Quote:
Originally Posted by dangerous dave
mate, that intercooler is bigger than my house!!
its looking good, i didn't get to see it properly in your garage.
yep defo looks the lick in the flesh and attention to detail in the bay so far gets my vote :agree:
mark my 5 will be ready on friday so i'll be able to give you a hand over the weekend :agree:
I think that's the biggest I/C I've ever seen and I have friends into highly tuned Jap cars, damn boy! :eek:
:DAlot of peeps mention the size of the intercooler, it was ment for a jap car though:)Quote:
Originally Posted by D4WNO
Thing is i'm not the only one with this size intercooler on my car, i believe another high powered car runs the same one.
its not the size of the cooler, its the way you push it through it......LOL
:p
Oh i haven't forgot about that mate:D;) I am fabricating a few little panels to direct air into the rad too just to make sure it has enough air flow sitting behind it.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul b
would nt that massive intercooler increase turbo lag?:cry:
im sure a little extra boooooshhht will compensate for that:burnrubber:Quote:
Originally Posted by mad manz
Really depends on turbo, air flow and pipe run.Quote:
Originally Posted by mad manz
I've used this intercooler with a C1J in situ with a VNT and between this intercooler and the old intercooler i had (forge front mount) i had no decrease in boost pressure across the set up.
I had a little sneak preview when you done the work on my 5.
Very nice mark. Should be a minter when done.
Cheers mate, i should be doing some more work on it soon so will have some more pics to put up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bodell
Been a while since i added to my thread so i thought i'd write an up date.
Since last time half the boost hose's have been fitted, alternator is finally on with the new bracket, sourced a coil pack to convert it from the originl dizzy (just got to mount it), fitted the Willies wheels, new suspension all round and i've finally desided on the turbo position in the engine bay. Once its mounted i can finish off the other side of the boost pipes.
Over christmas the plan is to get the exhaust manifold built so i can mount the turbo and start the exhaust, mount the oil cooler and run the pipes, mount coil pack and modify various other brackets to allow me to fit various bits. Might do abit of wiring too while i've got it out the garage.
I'll stick some progress pics up soon, its taking a while to do but it'll be worth it when its finished
so where have you decided to mount the turbo unit mark.?
Its abit hard to describe but it'll be 90deg the other way to where its sitting now, also got a new turbo for it the old T34 has been soldQuote:
Originally Posted by raj
Got a few pic's of the slow progress on the 5.
Got the exhaust all mounted now, its Haz's old 3" system which i've modded abit to fit it to the car. I've welded a new 45deg end on the tailpipe and slash cut it, welded new mounts on and made a little mount on the back engine mount so the downpipe will have abit more support. The system has a flexible jiont in the so the movement from the engine won't crack the exhaust.
On thing i might have to change is removing the scilencer, its quite big and sits very close to all the fuel lines so might remove it and just run a straight through pipe.:D
Got the Willy wheels fitted too finally, just need abit of a clean
Hope to get some more done soon.
That is just complete filth, you filth loving heathin
When do you think the cars ready by? the wheels suit it well :)
I'm so wanting it done for this year mate, like to have it done for summertime. Money has been abit tight recently so trying to save for the last bits has been abit hard, the ECU is one of the main things i need to get.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob@Backyardracing
Thats just a massive FMIC yeah? Is it overkill markey or really needed?
I prob didn't need to buy one as big as it but it was cheap and has been used on a 5 before. I've used and tested i before on my old engine and it worked perfect, i wouldn't use it with a small turbo though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenobi
thats coming along nicely:agree:
cant wait to see this finished mark. :pimp:
Well after a long while i finally got an exhaust manifold on my car now:D
Thanks goes to Big Jim Racing for making the manifold, i was intending to make it myself but just haven't had the time. I'm glad i got him to do it though as it looks bloody brilliant;)
Now its on the car with the turbo and external in situ i can get on with the other jobs to finish off the engine bay
looks awsome m8 hope all goes well.:agree:
nice bit of kit there mark :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Markey Mark (BD)
nice work mark , love the colour code off the gear box and engine block what did u use ??
keep it up mate:)
Looking good, looks like its all coming together for the summer :cool:
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On the turbo where do you get that mesh from so you do not need a filter?? Car is fecking awesome good work fella.
Cheers mate, its been a long build but nearly there.Quote:
Originally Posted by ollie91
Its not mesh mate, its just a cover that the turbo arrives with to protect the blades.
what w/g is that? looks the same as my one from demonmotorsport ;)
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Looks good Mark :cool:. How long until you think you will finish it ?
I really want to get it done asap mate but its just money at the moment, need to save abit more to get the thing finished.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim B
Always the way mate never enough money. By the way just to let you know ive stripped all the bits off the van engine, ready to take the head off. Probably this weekend:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Markey Mark (BD)
Its a D Developments external, 38mm. Got it a while ago so can't remember the price exactlyQuote:
Originally Posted by markey b
Ah cool, let us know what you find when you pull it off mateQuote:
Originally Posted by Tim B
That is insane mate, I'm putting a volvo lump in my clio but nothing like as mad as what your are doing...
What have you changed engine wise then, better pistons ? just looking at the size of that turbo it's gonna be running some serious hp and was curious to what you have changed internally...
Also what did you paint the engine with ?
:DYeah it is going to be abit insane mate, i've done a far bit to the engine and plan to see how much power you can push out of one.Quote:
Originally Posted by TURBO'D CLIO
Bottom end wise its fairly standard apart from a balanced crank and a very light flywheel, top end the head has recieved a far bit of porting, bigger valves, stronger valve springs, custom spec cam which Scoff kindly come up and just a few other little bits.
I painted the engine block in Hammerite, need a few other bits doing soon but not sure to paint or ploish yet
Shame it won't be ready for the end of the month really, Mark.
Yeah it is mate, really would have liked to of taken it to the Pod. It will make it out this year though:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Adam L
I'll be at Pod day with something though;)
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Originally Posted by Markey Mark (BD)
Very very clever stuff mate, i was thinking of going down that route with mine but then thought other wise, my pocket wont go that deep lol..
So will the turbo not fit under the inlet where it goes as standard like on mine, looks good out the side just thought maybe the turbo may not clear the bulk head..
My engine is comming out now, i have a new fly wheel and clutch comming next week, going to paint the engine and do head gasket and sump gasket all at the same time.. I was just going for a cheap sleeper as the clio is only a bulk standard 5 door, but people wont expect a volvo lump under the hood..
So you run standard pistons then ?.. I didn't realise you could do so much to them with out changing the pistons and rod's etc... Also when ever i look on the net for performance parts i can't find any thing for the 480 t lump.. :confused:
Any idea's ?
No the turbo is too big to go in the standard position, wouldn't cear the bulkhead at all.
To be honest 99% of the bits on my engine are custom made, there's not much off the shelf performance parts out there at all.
As for the piston's and rod's, time will tell:D
Thought so, that turbo is huge and the intercooler :rolleyes: HUGE lol.. I remember a mate of mine called duncan buit a stupid fast fiat uno turbo with a huge tubo and intercooler, it lagged a bit but that made it fun cus when the lag clears woooosh.... Hold on to your seat... lol
Good work mate, keep us up dated on that engine, i'm very interseted to see progress..
Rob
I just noticed the date of when i updated this thread, has it been that long! :eek:
Well for a late update
I had got alittle lazy with the project in the late part of this year, what with saving for my holiday i had in Austarlia and work i didn't have much time to spend on it. Well its time to drag the old girl out now and fit the mounting of bits i got it sitting in the garage.
Last weekend i did alittle, finished modifing most of the engine brackets, started templating the coil-pack bracket and finished the boost pipe from the turbo (now all pipes done).
In the car ready to go on is:
- New roll cage (weld in)
-Gauges
-Exhaust silencer
-Screamer pipe
-Brakes
-Nitrous
-Master cylinder
-Fuel lines
Over christmas the priority is to get these parts in and fitted, have all the custom brackets welded up and test fitted to the engine before powder coating and generally get the thing finished! :laugh:
Will have some update pic's soon of it looking more complete then before ;)
Mark, don't let this turn into my Escort:D
Not a chance mate:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Adam L
I'm all ready to dive in and get the last bits done:laugh:
Good man Mark, be nice to see it finished in the new year :)
real nice bit of kit mate looks real good and looks like alot of hard work has gone in
Well if we stop playing about with all the other crap (mini and a campus) we could get it done alot quicker ! :cooter: :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Markey Mark (BD)
or don`t fit the nitrous and sell it to me...........;)
You not fancy a bash at the euro sports compact? or at least get the cage to meet the spec incase you decide to join in the future???:coffee:
I may do mate, has interested me to competing in some sort of drag series some time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob@Backyardracing
Think for me this year will be finishing it and testing it to see how it performs, then maybe the following year if it performs well see about entering the car.
To be honest its got to perform quite well to stand of any chance against some of the cars in the Euro Sport Compact series. :D
lookin very nice mate, cant wait to see the results on the strip ;)
Mark, good to see you working on the red 5, she's been with you a while now so it must be nice getting back in the swing of things :ho:
stuart clark ...?Quote:
Originally Posted by Markey Mark (BD)
Car is a classic custom build, done truely to awsome standard by looks of it
well done :cool:
Ma
Made some more progress with the 5 yesterday at last.
Got the new cage half mounted in, during the week new plates are going to be cut to make the box's for the floor that the cage will be mounted to. Once in it'll be sandblasted and painted.
All the old sound deadening come out, as i'm not have a dash all of it is now in the bin! :D
A new control/gauge panel has been drawn up redy to be cut out and all the new gauges and switchs mounted. Only bits that i need for the runing of the car are going to be there, all the electrical extra's have been romoved from the car aswell as the wiring from the dash loom (electric window's, stereo, front fog switch, rear wiper/washer switch etc)
New disc's got fitted, just got to celan up the calipers and paint them front and back then thats the brake system done.
While the wheels were off i tried the new slicks on, needed to trim little bit of the inside lip of the arch trims. Now can get full lock with the 22-9x13 tyres without them catching. :)
Got some new lights from Mike (phase 1 16v turbo) recently, they got fitted, juts need to modify the paneling behind the passenger head light abit so i can run the boost pipe under the light as its catching it quite abit. Another welding job for me!
Engine side the dizzy has found its new position now, will be making the mounting bracket for that too, also new timing sensor will be having its bracket made too at thre same time. Downpipe has been measured up and set to be finished too, also got the remove the original silencer that Haz fitted to the 3" exhaust and fit the 3" cheey bomb in its place.
Over next few weekends all the welding/bracket making will be completed so pretty much all the stuff can finally be fitted in place.
Made some good progress again thankfully, with the better weather now i should be on target to get it all finshed soon. Been long time coming now.
Will get some new pic's up over next few weeks once these parts have been completed.
looking forward to seeing this Mark, keep the work going, sounds like your winning. :agree:
Yeah i'm finally winning with it now. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by J8TRO
make sure you bring that plate with you in the morning so i can make the box !
Glad to see your making new progress again.. :agree:
Well its been almost ayear since i have been able to work on this project what with work and issues with using equipment round my garages.
The car started to look alittle rejected and i wasn't happy with few things i done before so before the engine went back in for good i decided to sort shell out one last time, but due to not being aloud to weld round my house anymore i have had to wait 3 months to be able to go somewhere to do it
Today i moved the car to Bigbadboytanks parents double garage so i could do alot of welding work on the shell and make alot of brackets and fit a fair few bits to the shell too.
Its there for 2 weekends and in that time all welding work will be done ready for little lick of paint (again) and the engine to be dropped in for last time.
I'll be sticking progress pics up each day so those who are interested can see the progress and to prove i have actually done something to it! :D
Heres pic of car at its new home for 2 weeks, will stick more up tomorrow of the progress
Its about bloody time too ! :cooter:
I forgot to tell you the plug on my mig is abit iffy, but seems your posting you must be ok! :laugh:
Yeah welders been spot on today, engine bay is mostly done now and Clio 16v dash in.Quote:
Originally Posted by hydrotec78
Next it exhaust downpipe and the cage floor plates.
More porgress today, dash was finally finished fitting in so all that needs doing to that is wiring it up. :)
Done downpipe today which now finishes the exhaust system off totally, i will be moving on to the screamer pipe next but need to get length of pipe first.
I'll be doing the filler work on the bodywork during week ready for its fresh lick of paint again, next weekend will be cage plates and any left over bits that i find before it goes for paint again.
And I make a good cup of tea :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Markey Mark (BD)
Jeez, about time you got this sorted :D
Yeah it is mate, to be honest after few hold backs last year and other bits that needed doing this car took a back seat. Think last year it rolled out the garage once.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spooky
Got my arse in gear now so its going to get done!
Good man, glad it's getting there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Markey Mark (BD)
I was up your neck of the woods today, was going to drop you a txt lunchtime & pop over but then the wife dropped me a txt to come home ASAP :crap: (most annoying)
Anything I can help with give me a call :agree:
I'll be doing last bits next weekend mate, more than welcome to come pop down. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Gttnutter
I'll keep you away from grinders this time, know what happened last time!
Cracking stuff mate great to see it's all now coming together are you keeping it road legal or just for the pod again great work mate :agree:
Road legal mate but will only have basic essentials in there to make it legal.Quote:
Originally Posted by philr5t
love the manifold :)
Chop chop markey :D Looking good mate, see it at the next surrey meet, yeah? ;)
:laugh: I wish mate!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Reed
So your not planning on parking it next to phils then ;) haha..Quote:
Originally Posted by Markey Mark (BD)
Oh i will but maybe not at the same time! :laugh::)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Reed
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Originally Posted by Markey Mark (BD)
Mate you better park it near mine as there's not enough reds left out there especially when there nicely modded :agree:
Another weekend of progress on the car.
Got the passenger side front panel modified to accept the new boost pipe run, tweeked exhaust system again as was sitting alittle too low and also mounted the fuel swirl pot in the back of the car.
I managed to put a layer of filler on the engine bay before i finished tonight so tomorrow it should be dry ready for me to sand it down.
Started routing the screamer pipe today, need extra length of pipe to route it way i want so hoping i can get it tomorrow and finish it off.
Not got any pics today but will get some more up tomorrow once i done a few more jobs to it.
Good stuff mate keep it going and keep the pictures updated mate
Nice progress mark :D ...good to see your getting on with it :smokin:
Cant wait to see this one go ..as the engine from your campus goes bloody well :agree:
Few more updated pics, its getting there slowly made more progress these past 2 weekends then i have over the past 18 months. :D
Some nice work there :)
are them holes a part of the intercooler run ?.. just wondering as i want to alter mine to go down there.
Knowing Mark they will be :)Quote:
Originally Posted by djinuk
just looked closer it appears marks taking a page from the vw boys books and smoothing out any unneeded holes etc.. and going smooooth. I think its about time the renault scene caught up a little with vw/ford themes.
Your the 1st to mention it :agree: I believe he is going for a smoother look inside the bay and yes from what i see they are the pipe run cut outsQuote:
Originally Posted by djinuk
hehe , i dont miss anything.. tell him to invest in some 2k high build primer through, that rattle can high build is toss , to thin to actually to a great deal and just often reacts like buggary when applied over the top.
it will look really good when complete me thinks :)
Cheers for advise mate, the high build primer was out of a rattle can but not the normal brand so hopefully won't have too much of a problem. Most of it will be rubbed off as its only there for guide coat so i know where it needs work.Quote:
Originally Posted by djinuk
Hopefully its off to painters soon so will let him knwo whats gone on there.
Yeah the holes down in the inner wings are for the boost pipes, i modified the panel below so it angled away from wheel.
Right bit more today, the welding on the shell is done now! :)
This afternoon after work i made the screamer pipe, modified the new wing to accept the pipe and then welded the pates to the floor for the rest of the cage.
Done little more filler work on the engine bay to finally smooth the last little bits out.
Its off to painters on thursday evening so i'll be takling all the parts off the car again, i'll get some pics of the new additions before i break it down.
Its getting there, getting excited now! :D
Great stuff mate pleased for ya keep on it and keep the pics going to :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Markey Mark (BD)
Good work mate :agree:
Well its gone to paintshop now, won't see it for few weeks now although when i do it'll be a nice shade of red again! :D Won't be a Renault red though.
Sorry i promise pics before i took it apart but i forgot in the mad rush to get it stripped down ready to take it today.
Over the next few weeks i'll be getting on with the freshen up of the engine and few extra bits too so may have some pics of those soon.
as said ....you dont half work quick mark :D cant wait to see the finishing product :smokin:
Looking ace mate cant wait to see some pics and see it at the meet. Gona be rapid:D
Good stuff Mark.... :agree:
Sweet. Will be good to see the beast back on the road :agree:
Looks like you have got the bit between your teeth now:D looking good. You may even beat me to getting a Renault back on the road. wow:o ill have to pull my finger out.
lol do you know what Tim, i think he will have his car and my car on the road before you get the van going again lol :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim B
Make that 3 tank:laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by bigbadboytank
Looking good for end of March/beginning or April Mark ?
Won't be back from paintshop till end of March so prob be looking at late April/early May time.Quote:
Originally Posted by 5teve L
Chop chop, be good to see it on the rollers if poss.. PM for yaQuote:
Originally Posted by Markey Mark (BD)
Well had abit of a shock today, been told by painter that car may be done by next monday so i will have it back a few weeks early! :eek:
I haven't even had chance to freshen engine up yet :laugh:, best sort other bits first like paint gearbox and cage so they can be bolted to car once its back.
bang goes £50...... you may actually win this bet mate :scared:
Can't wait to see the pics when you get it back :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Markey Mark (BD)
Will stick pics up soon as cars back mate
Tank - best get cheque book now as the bet is mine! :laugh:
Good news mate, fingers crossed we may both be @ the next Surrey meet in our 5's (Bet Phil will be still on his dash :wasntme:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Markey Mark (BD)
Won't be next surrey meet for me mate, too much to fit to it for that date. Will be May one more than likelyQuote:
Originally Posted by 5teve L
There's me thinking you were motivated :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Markey Mark (BD)
I am mate but the amount needed to be done needs more time then i can possibly give to it over the month.Quote:
Originally Posted by 5teve L
Had the phonecall today, its all painted now! :D
Full 3 weeks early which is good but also means i haven't even had chanve to do the engine freshen up or paint roll cage yet.
As a favour my brother is rolling the car to his workbay at his work (next door to paintshop) so i can go refit all the panels and have abit extra time to do the bits i needed to do before car gets rolled back into my garage. I think i'll refit most bits there then bring it home next weekend.
I'll grab some pics tomorrow but from sounds of it brother says it has come out spot on! :D
Can't believe i may actually get it done soon!
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Originally Posted by Markey Mark (BD)
Good news, can't wait to see what this can do once up & running.
Happy days Mark:agree:
Can't beat fresh paint...............look forward to some pics and seeing it in the flesh:D
Wow, could be ready for national day? :):agree::cool:
my only hope is i have seen the wiring for your all singing all dancing ECU...... thats a lot of wires there mate lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Markey Mark (BD)
One wire at a time and nice and slowly! :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by bigbadboytank
Looking forward to the pictures mate. Good to meet you at the weekend.
Im please im not the one connecting it to the Battery......... :brickwall:Quote:
Originally Posted by Markey Mark (BD)
Right i cracked on with the car today, was lovely weather so made most of it.
I rolled it out the garage today and decided to attack the interior and paint the subframe and start fitting the parts to the car.
Due to the rules of the 'Outlaw Shootout' i have to have carpet so decided to fit underlay and a black raider carpet to the car, the freshely painted rollcage went in too and the fitted the seat and dash back in. Just got to fit the wiring loom to the dash now and then i shoud be ready to see if it all works in there.
Engine bay was treated to a clean and some black paint to the subframe to freshen it up abit, fitted new master cylinder and fluid resoviour and started to run the speedo cable and fit the header tank in.
I'll be finishing the interior off first then i'll be fitting the freshened up engine, once i get round to doing that.
Here's some pics for everyone to have look ;)
Before anyone ask's, the car is not ornage, its just the light was so bright today and for some reason the car does shimmer orange abit but it is red! :laugh:
Any progress is progress:agree:
Like the look of the clio dash too mate.........keep the pics coming looking good:agree:
Weather has been glorious today hasn't it:D:D:D
Well was nice weekend again just gone so the car rolled out the garage again for more work, i only did a sunday on it as i was working on my F7P powered 5 on sat (may do build up thread on that soon)
Not many pics taken unfortunately but have now managed to fit the new Clio 16v hubs with new bearings, spare clean front calipers with new pads, new steering rack gaitor and then sprayed the inner archs with underseal again just to keep the rot at bay
At the back i fitted the refurbished calipers i bought off here while ago with new pads and then undersealed under there too. I had to cut the handbrake cables off as they had siezed solid in the old calipers so looks like another part for the shopping list
The engine was treated to a clean up and lick of paint again and started to build it up slowly. Didn't manage to fit the new painted sump before pic was taken so engine still sits on oversprayed sump :laugh:
Will be ordering new clutch this week, once thats here the engine can be matted to the freshly painted and rebuilt box and then dropped in the car.
Had nice little package turn up yesterday, opened it and found this inside! :D
Now i can crack on with the engine bay:)
Nice, now swap it with mine ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Markey Mark (BD)
How much did that lot cost you?
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Originally Posted by Os8472
No its ok i kind of like this one mate! :laugh:;)
It cost me £816 mate
:agree:
looks good, i can't w8 to hear what BHP it's gonna make.
It looks very fresh mark. That clutch looks awesome Altho a tad expensive lol.
Off the top of Yr head do u know how many splines the gearbox has. The Volvo 215 mm isn't holding up to my power and need a 4 or 6 puk
I think its 26 mate but will check on this for you, i had to double check myself when i ordered my clutchQuote:
Originally Posted by dave r5
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£816?! It cost me £1 less than that to have my whole front end repaired! ;)
Cheers mate. I've looked on the site were u got yrs from.The spec is awesome. But as I'm a tight ****er I won't be buying The same 1 as you lol. Well until I've tested it hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Markey Mark (BD)
Right its been little while since updated this, main reason for this is i've hit a major problem with the clutch which has stopped me fitting the engine bay up.
After a cock up with having the wrong flywheel machined to accpet the new clutch (:sad2:), once i got the right one machined and clutch fitted it seems the fingers on the cover plate are compressed in so much once the release bearing touchs the fingers it sits about 1mm away from the friction plate :crap:
Once i fitted it to car and clutch cable fitted the fork arm sits so far back it almost touchs gearbox and cable has so much slack pedal doesn;t even work. All i can describe it as it looks like clutch is always depressed the arm sits so far back.
Turbo Ted has same clutch, after checking out pics of his all looks the same but am going to see his one close up as his cover plate fingers sit further away from friction plate more than mine.
So looks like Pod Day is out now as don't think i'm going to have enough time to sort this out and then fit it all back up and map it.
For everyone to see here's pic of the clutch on the engine.
What a shame Mark, I was really looking forward to watching this one up the strip.
I know, real shame as was looking forward to running it. Its even more of a pain as i can't even see whats causing the problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigdur
I will be at Pod Day in something though ;)
Not sure I know what you mean Mark. You saying the fingers are already 1mm away from plate before there's any release pressure on it ? That would suggest plates are too thick or something ? Or is it just the angle of the release fork thats screwed it up ?
It is hard one to explain mateQuote:
Originally Posted by Scoff
Bit of both mate, with clutch bolted to engine as it should be if i hold release bearing up against the fingers the bearing is about 1mm away from friction plate.
Yes the release fork sits too far back but i think this is down to the fingers being compressed soo much.
I think your right mate but i can't see what bit wrong, i'm going to Robs (Turbo Teds) wenesday to check his clutch as he's got same one but his works fine.
Maybe your clutch is meant for a flywheel with a slight recess where the friction plate sits? could you make some sort of spacer for the cover?
Yeah, as tony says or your plates are too thick for the cover ?
Hopefully if robbies is in bits (I heard he broke his gearbox "running in" !) then you'll be able to measure stuff up ok.
of course, there's the old favourite but I didn't want to mention it : the plate is in the right way round isn't it ? :cool:
Mark, if you need an extra pair of hands give me a text mate & I'll pop up, it's only an hours drive mate & I'm pretty flexible in the week, weekends are a little more difficult but may be able to swing something.
Mark alot of these clutch's require a 'step' machining in the flywheel.. This would need to be done around the outside (where the cover plates bolt up) I know I had to do this on my Tilton setup..
Hope this helps buddy.
Dave - Yeah i've had the step machined into the flywheel as per the diagram i was supplied with the clutch ;)
Scoff - :laugh: I actually double checked that and theres no physical way to put it in wrong way but was worth check ;)
Yes Robs car is in bits mate, output bearing colapsed in the box so he had issue with few gears at last surrey meet, box is all rebuilt now.
Steve - Cheers mate, i may be doing a call on some fellopw members soon as i do have a hell of alot on to get ready for pod day.
I have had a chat with Anthony at Techcraft, he seems to think Helix may have fitted slightly too thick Ceramic pads to the friction plate, i will be pulling my clutch off and measuring it all up to double check and comparing it to Robbies clutch too.
Right went over to Turbo Ted to day and checked his clutch, straight away i saw whats wrong they have sent me the wrong release bearing, its totally different! :crap:
I'll be on phone tomorrow to Techcraft to see if they can send new one out for me next week, thankfully it was something simple (hopefully no more issues) so now i can get on with fitting the engine bay up if head turns back up this week as promised.
Mark, that is good news it's something simple:agree:
Sounds promising mate :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Markey Mark (BD)
Fingers crossed its all sorted when new bearing turns up
Whichever way you go mark if it be Volvo or the tungsten for pod I'll be able to help you crack on with them :agree:
how? blowing it up or shagging it:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Gttnutter
looking good by the way..... :smokin: not you rich, you look a cnut as always;)
Well had another package turn up this week which was kind of shock, i got my head back thankfully after lending it out nearly year ago!
As i'm waiting for the new release bearing to turn up i thought i'd give the head a refresh and then bolt most of the newly podercoated bits and the new Siemens injectors to the head.
I'll be bolting the head to the engine once bottom end comes out again to do release bearing, once all back in car then i can bolt up all the turbo and exhaust then start making all the hoses fit.
Looks good mate, so will the red one make pod ??
No chance of it making it mate, the holds up with the clutch and head have kept me too far behind. Worked hard to get it done though.Quote:
Originally Posted by 5teve L
I'm going to still be cracking on with it, get it done soon as.
Well had bit more development on the 5 recently.
Few weeks back i bought a fair few spares off Dave R5, included in the spares was a set of Forged pistons and bored block! :D So last week once got bit of spare time guess what happened to my engine, yes bottom end come apart and crank, bearings and oil pump got transfered to the new block (freshly painted red) and then the forge pistons were fitted in. Head was fitteda dnfinally the engine was completely assembled for last time.
Over the weekend the weathers been basically crap here but thankfully sat afternoon had few hours of dry weather so me and my brother manahed to fit the engine into the car and get the turbo, exhaust, screamer pipe and exhaust fitted on. To say i'm happy and making progress is understandment! :)
The right clutch bearing turned up few weeks ago too, thats all fitted in too. Pedal feels different to normal clutch, it may just be me but as my brother says only want to tell if its right is drive it so it was decided finish car and see if it works.
I've just ordered all the elbows and straight lengths of silicone hose i need to do the water pipes so hopefully by next weekend they will be here so that canbe done.
Sorry not got any pics as its so crap here the pics come out really dark, if weather clears up this week will drag car out and take few pics
I've seen this car many times but only once with the engine inside! It looks awesome mate.. cant wait for a passenger ride ;):agree:
Heres some pics as promised.
Nice one mate, good to see progress, fingers crossed it all works ok :agree:
Made some more progress on the 5 today, got to say its starting to look like a complete car now! :laugh:
Just to list out what i sorted
-got new handbrake cables fitted and adjusted
-made most of the water pipe, just one more to go
-fitted fan to radiator
-sorted 99% of the boost pipes
-changed the external wastegate over to new one
-made throttle cable
-fitted clocks into dash
-got bumper mounted
For some reason its not uploading pics at moment, will stick some up later on if it lets me
Pics now added
Looking good :)
Getting there now mate :agree:
Glad too see its really comibg together now matey. Looks ace. Cant wait too see what it does at pod:D
Coming together nicely buddy :cool:
Little update, nothing special but thought stick few pics up.
After work this week i managed to get last section of boost pipe run done so thats all sorted now just need solid pipe sections powder coated.
I also decided to cut a grill about to fill in the gaps around the headlights and intercooler, actually worked out ok just need to hav it painted red then i'll secure it to the car
Also i decided to make something to cover up the end of the camshaft since i wasn't using a dizzy cap, spent an hour on weekend modifying an original dizzy cap. Didn't turn out too bad i think.
Will be continuing on weekend with car, more progress pics to follow
looking good, grill looks tidy.
Mark, coming on nicely, grill actually looks good keeping the intercooler open to air and as you say tidying it up around and below the light's.
What grill :laugh: Oh that little strip above the cooler :wasntme:Quote:
Originally Posted by Nad-5GTT
Looking good Mark, any idea of when it will be on the road ?
Just read this ......nice progress mark! :) ...itll be hitting the strip very soon id imagine!:D
Looks really well mark hands down to you mate keep up the good work :)
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Originally Posted by 5teve L
lol i thought exactly that, look forward to seeing this car rocking the strip
Well thought be time for another update, done few more little jobs on it again fitted the adjustable fpr and lines (need securing in), managed to get new air filter too and also i fitted the gauges i've had for about 3yrs now! :D
Only pain now is i got to take all the boost and water hard pipes off again to get them all powder coated, look abit better then the copper and dull alloy look! :laugh:
Its coming together slowly, next on the list is fuel system in the back once the Bosch 044 turns up and then its on to wirirng the ecu. Yes i'm doing it myself even though i was abit reluctant to do it!
mark, from the pictures your quality of work looks fantastic. really getting there now with it! keep it up and please keep this thread updated.
Well the fuel system is 99% done now, just got to run some new lines under the car and connect it up to system in the back of the car.
Excuse the crappy painted base plate, thats being painted again very soon! :laugh:
During the week hope to have the wasted spark coil bracket made up so i can mount that into the engine bay and will also get the AEM boost controller mounted
Skipping rope's no good for fuel lines mark :D
:laugh::laugh: Yeah does look abit like it doesn't itQuote:
Originally Posted by Gttnutter
Getting there now mate looking sweet can't be to much left now mate :agree:
Mark, I take it that fuel hose is teflon lined and not rubber??
How come you decided to run a fuel swirl pot? I no my fuel tank has a baffle plate inside so it should be ok even when the fuel is low?
Getting there Mark, can't wait to see this running.
I'm about the same as you, well maybe a little behind, still not looking forward to the wiring though :scared:
Yeah they are mate, made sure went for decent hose rather then the cheap stuff when i ordered it from my local supplier.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Reed
I think i went with swirl pot for piece of mind mate, always good to know it deffinately has a constant supply sat there even under hard acceleration.
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Originally Posted by Markey Mark (BD)
Cool mate, just thought I'd check ;)
Fair enough, you think your going to get enough 'hard acceleration' with that old volvo lump in there :p :D
You sorted the wiring out yet mark?
Prob get more than your old little Renault lump mate! :cooter::D
I've not done the wiring yet but i'm having a crack myself, thats next on the list of things to do.
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Originally Posted by Markey Mark (BD)
HAHAHA bold statement considering it aint running yet :p:laugh:
Where about's are you again mark? if ya not too far from me I could come give you a hand with the wiring, if you trust me ofcourse :):scratch:
Fingers crossed it'll work! :laugh::laugh::laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Reed
I'm in aylesbury mate, yeah course trust you mate the extra hands would be much appreciated and also another pair of eyes to check i wired it up right.
I'll have to plan when i intend to do it
Cool, is about 70 miles away from me :eek: Can't believe you come down to ace cafe!! lol..
Can be done though, let me no as I do shift work so am of during the week, which you prob ain't :laugh:
Yeah Ace is about 1hr drive for me and surry is 1 1/4hr each way, i'm use to driving as do it everyday for work! :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Reed
Actually i still have to take 2days holiday before end of year so i may book them soon as can do wiring then, will let you kow when i can get them off mate
cool mate, phils got my number so grab it of him n we'll talk.. Ur guna need some bits n bobs to carry it out, no reason why we shuldn't get it dne in a day..
I give Phil a text and get it off him mate.
any update yet?
There will be soon mate ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by r5 rich
Given the little red fella any Christmas presents Mark?
Not this year mate, i do have a few parts of being powder coated at the moment which should be back soon so will be fitting them to the engine bay and popping some pics upQuote:
Originally Posted by bigdur
looking at these projects .... I can not believe that beautiful work! :)
amazing mate!!:agree::agree:
Well its been little while since updated this thread so thought let you all know how it coming along
Since last update i've been buying alot more of the stupid little bits i needed to get, connectors, relays, wiring, fuel lines, etc.
I've managed to modify the downpipe again, i wasn't happy with the angle it sat at under the car and it also hung too low so i bought a new 90deg 3" pipe and 2 flanges and modified it. Its now completed on car and sits alot higher up and angle of downpipe is much better too, also having the 3" flanges means the exhaust is easily unbolted now rather then trying to force it out the slip joint
Engine wise i've got the AEM boost controler fitted, turbo re-fitted with new oil feed, oil pressure sender unit mounted and a few other little jobs. Tomorrow i plan to spend another day on it so will see what else i can get finished off, hopefully i can do all the wiring for the fuel system in the back
Unfortunately the sites not letting me upload pics so i can post any, no idea why it won't let me but i've given up trying now as everything i do it still won't let me :(
Mark add the pics to the fb page !
I;ll take some tomorrow, as i couldn't upload them on here i never bothered to take anyQuote:
Originally Posted by hydrotec78
cool !Quote:
Originally Posted by Markey Mark (BD)
http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss90/markbd/104.jpg
Bit of progress over the weekend ;)
I know there few hoses not attached but need few extra fittings and joiners
Boost hose's are off at the moment having them powder coated but once they are back they be going on and looking even more complete
Looking good matey :)
From what car is your radiator ?
Its a Renault 19 16v rad mateQuote:
Originally Posted by ioshi_s_golf
Cracking stuff mark looking the part now did get the picture txt earlier but I have been out all day with no reception to reply keep it going mate atleast you have an engine for your car
Fingers crossed you'll be having an engine by tuesday too!Quote:
Originally Posted by philr5t
Yeah deffinately making progress now, i even done abit more to it after i took the picture
I'll be doing even more this week now its lighter in the evenings, try get all the little bits done and connect all the hoses/vacuum lines up
Engine back by Tuesday not after the day I have had with you know who :cry: fuming is the word I'm thinking of mate but I'm glad yours is finally going to plan Nate great stuff :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Markey Mark (BD)
Don't tell me, more excuses's for it not to be finished! :sad2:Quote:
Originally Posted by philr5t
You must be telepathic mate :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Markey Mark (BD)
:sad2: Your going to have to tell me what they are nowQuote:
Originally Posted by philr5t
Think time to get it back whatever state and have it finished somewhere else
Who is doing the work?Quote:
Originally Posted by philr5t
Bit more progress this weekend, i've been busy changing various vacumn pipe fittings on the inlet manifold and one way valve so they look and also seal better.
Also been busy making and fitting the mounting plate for the coil packed, only place i really had left was above the alternator so made a plate which mounted on the original alternator bracket. Seems nice and sturdy but not entirly happy with the HT leads so will prob have some new ones made up soon.
While was working down there got the new engine mounts fitted from Logg, nice fit i got to say.
Managed to paint few water pipes, secure the new fuel lines up, make up the new timing sensor bracket for the gearbox and few odd jobs too while had few bis off.
I've ordered new oil catch tank, filters and pipe for water temp sensor, once there in i'll be fitting them up and then once the exhaust downpipe is on i'm pretty much done ready for wiring
http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss90/markbd/105.jpg
http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss90/markbd/107.jpg
:agree::agree::agree:
:goodJob::cool2: looking good buddy
Spent fuul day on it today, keep it simple i got a fair few bits done to it today
-rear suspension raised to standard height
-new downpipe finished and fitted (heat wrapped too)
-oil return for turbo made and fitted
-FPR fitted to new location in scuttle area
-new catch tank fitted
I managed to get my new twin headlights fitted while ago but never mentioned it on here. The covers are off at moment being painted so will have them back on soon.
Also today i thought spend bit of time fitting my new drag slicks, well i need to alter coilovers settings abit, trim the arches a fair bit and cut some new arches up (will need painting again) but got to say please how there fitting
http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss90/markbd/115.jpg
http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss90/markbd/120.jpg
For the engine only got to fit the vernier pulley, new AN fittings for fuel lines plus few clips for water hoses and then all thats left its wiring! :D
The end is in sight! :)
Looks great mate .
Looks a little mad max with those slicks :burnrubber:
Car looks amazing matey, looks like a 5 again. Looks awesome with the big slicks;)
Still getting over the shock of you working on it tho:laugh:
Proper tyres:agree:
5quid that screamer pipe sets fire to the wing:wasntme:
I think a set on the rear would look awesome.. Pointless but it'll look like a mini monster truck.Quote:
Originally Posted by Logg
Looking good, Mark. Chop chop though, you've been saying for the last two years it'll be finished soon:p
That intercooler is ridiculously massive!! But I love it. :smokin:
Definatley one I want to see..
Cheers for comments guys, i'm more than keen to see how its going to perform too been far too long now but so glad light is at end of the tunnel now.
Yeah Adam, have been saying abit too much over the years haven't i! :laugh:;)
Brigsy, know you like a good tyre shot here's another of them on the car. I might get another set of arch's and trim them with a slightly better curve them these ones but might try these in primer first and see how it looks
http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss90/markbd/119.jpg
:crush::crush::crush:
That looks so mean Mark! Getting close now :)
Edit: just seen whats sticking out of the wing :niceone:
thats one nice 5 :cool:
Only little update today, nothing special but least another job off the list
I got my freshly painted headlights and grill back about a week ago, thought as finished early and before i relaxed the the sun (got to make most of it! :D) i fitted the bits to the car.
Front end now looks like complete car, next sunday should be the big push to finish the last new bits
http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/s...bd/ebay020.jpg
Looks really nice, quality finish to the front end.. :agree:
Looks the part now mate front end looks PHAT top job mate :agree:
Looking good Mark... Love the lights :cool:, did you secure the back?
PS, still think that intercooler way too BIG :eek:
that looks mental!
You love the big cooler look and bumper combo. Better than the blue one mate:):agree:
I love the stealthy look of the car... ;):D
Looks awesome mark! Id be tempted to make some wider o.e style front arches like glens :)
Looking good mate :cool:
I'm cutting another set of archs up soon so they fit the tyres alittle better, i'm not really wanting wider ones as when i fit road wheels they'll be abit lost in the arches (look abit lost already :laugh:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Brigsy
Cheers mate ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Scoff
I know you've said to me its fairly easy to do the wiring but i think this car will be coming your way if you fancy wiring/mapping it.
As its my first time doing one so i'll take ages to do it, as time not on my side at moment with being abit busy plus i would like to have it done for July time thinking it be best if sent it to you if you fancy doing it mate :agree:
Bit of an update today, Dave Reed popped over today and helped me with wiring the car up. Yep thats right the car is 75% wired up now! :eek:
We couldn't finish it all today as i ran out of wire covering and need 2 more plugs but most of it is done and routed so won't take much to finish it off.
A big thanks has to be given to Dave for taking time out to help me, one big step closer to completion now
Also while i had the bonnet off i completed to last few alterations to the water system (new routing of pipework) and fitted the vernier pulley on, after we finish a few jobs tomorrow we'll be carrying on with the work on the car so maybe in 2 weekends time i might be able to download a base map and finally get the car started for first time in 5yrs!
thats fantastic mark...get in there :smokin:Quote:
Originally Posted by Markey Mark (BD)
Is it possible to freeze injectors? I reckon you'll be giving it a damn good shot with that cooler.
Top stuff mark getting there now mate keep it up
Just ordered some more sleeving for it now so fingers crossed i'll complete the wiring loom soon :)Quote:
Originally Posted by philr5t
Just re-read the thread from start to finish, top work, will be good to see the results, and what a b18ft can really do...............;)
I've some sleaving left if that helps you get it finished tomorrow mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Markey Mark (BD)
I forgot to ask this morning when spoke to you if you had any left over, ordered some already now so least have plenty spare.Quote:
Originally Posted by Logg
I need 2 extra plugs so won't be finished tomorrow but not far off, if you up for popping over one weekend after Nat Day with your laptop might see if can get the thing fired up?
No worries mate think I've a three pin junor plug left over too. Your so close see if any light mapping can be carried out on national days rolling road. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Markey Mark (BD)
I'm after 2 2pin plugs for water temp sensor and crank sensor, if needs be will order some new ones from EFI-parts tomorrow plus any other bits i missed too! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Logg
I won't be bringing it next weekend, not looking its best with all the multi-coloured archs on the front (not had painted yet since fitted slicks)! :laugh:
And the boot for the coil pack wiring ;) haha
Your car looks awesome mate, hurry up and get it on the road lol
I've been using these guys for all my sleaving, boots n stuff.
http://www.autoelectricsupplies.co.uk/
:laugh: Not forgot that Dave, it will have a boot on the plug i promise!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Reed
I'm itching to get it finished now, so close
A long long road what with alot of other jobs and chucking this on the back burner many of times but sounds like its weekends away from running!
Would be nice to see it finished mate. Good luck mark.
Been abit of a while since updated this
Since last update I've had a lot go on, main thing is buying my new house. The 5 now lives in its new larger garage with light and electricity (thank god!)
I have completed a few more little jobs an there's really not much left now
The main development on the project will be its trip to Scoff's first week in March, yep my mate is taking his 5 there and arranged for mine to be taken too so in a few weeks time I will be able to hear it run for the first time in 6 years! :wasntme:
Once its running and base mapped its off for MOT and then the road for abit of running in before the boost gets turned right up! :D
great to hear this mark, you sound happy, good on ya you deserve it mate, lets hope it boosts as good as it looks lol
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Originally Posted by Markey Mark (BD)
cool youll have some nice fresh wheels o put on it too;) maybe, i need ur new address mate if your bout sunday ill drop them off:cartman:
Oh those wheels are for something else! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by wrightygtt
I'll be about sunday afternoon mate, i'll pm you my new address mate
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Originally Posted by Markey Mark (BD)
Woohoooo, will be interesting to see the figures.... not that theres any pressure :cooter:
cannot wait to see your car go mark!! :D:D
Great news mate well chuffed for you :agree:
Great read. Amazing work, gorgeous looking car. Cant wait to see what you get out this engine.
Time will tell soon, already got few ideas for improvements for the engine and car already but they can wait for abitQuote:
Originally Posted by B18ftMOJO5
When's it on its way to scoffs mate :agree:
Well this thread had to come to an end but unfortunately it wasn't the end I wanted, after loosing all motivation for 5's middle of last year I began stripping it for parts
Before Christmas I had a change of heart and began collecting parts for an F7P turbo engine but the list was becoming endless for what I wanted out of it plus I sold too many parts before so the cost's were spiralling! :crap:
The decision came to sell the lot, I did offer the rolling shell but no serious offers so today I have stripped it down to a bare shell and it'll be off to the scrap yard this week.
Real shame to do this after all the hard work I put into, never mind.
Here's the final pic of its life with me before it heads for the yard in the sky
http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/s...330_133342.jpg
Mate thats a real shame! Is the shell solid?
It is solid mate, I did the welding on it before it got painted 2yrs agoQuote:
Originally Posted by Matt Cole
I'm surprised Dale didn't buy it for the track 5
Few people inquired about it but still didn't goQuote:
Originally Posted by TopCat
Shame to see it broken up, money, space and time else would have got it here and used the shell
Gutted seeing this like this.. wish i had the cash! loosing my job ****ed it up :disagree:
Whats the windscreen like in it mark? i need a new one thats all
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Originally Posted by w35ty
Windscreen had slightly de-laminated in places so not worth saving mate
It is abit gutting mate seeing it like this, can't believe last time I drove it was Aug 2007 and then spent god knows what on it to get it built only to loose interest! :sad2:
Maybe with it gone and have a good break I may come back with something new ;)
Ahh no worries.. Just thought id ask :)
And cant believe it myself its just sat there like that.. You sold all the kit wheels etc then?
Surely some1 should snap this up whos willing to do a full resto as its solid base to work from..
I always wanted to see that volvo engine go too!
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Originally Posted by w35ty
Everything is pretty much sold now, just putting last few bits in the classifieds now
I did too mate but I know what vehicle the engines being fitted to, never know could always built an engine similar one day if I get bored
Be good to see it once its done in whoevers had it off you see how quick it is..
Im sure youll get bored one day and build another beast!
A real shame Mark. I'd be gutted myself after all the time and effort.
Hopefully you'll come back with something even wilder one day :agree:
Never know mate doubt i'll shake all the Renault out of me but doubt i'll be back in a 5Quote:
Originally Posted by Slammed 66
Separate note, when you want to come collect this engine mate?
I'm going to have to make it soon mate. I feel guilty every time I look at the van.