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Need some urgent,old,new,little used and rusty long as they will hold my side skirts on i am not bothered,can anybody please help me out? even if its just four that would be a great help!
cheers
J :agree::)
CGB have second hand on ebay -
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RENAULT-5-...item567a63160c
cheers mate,that will do for now!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by markg
:agree::)
£5 for that!!! The 5 tax is becoming stupid!!!
I KNOW!!Quote:
Originally Posted by LiamR
#SPECIALPARTS
:wasntme:
What is the rate on these new now? :confused:
Not sure? im sure if i think about it my engineering friend could make something out of stainless or even titanium that will do the job,be a different design obviously.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goobie
:agree:
Last couple of ebay auctions I have seen for new ones ended up at £42 for 6 clips and £39 for 5 clips.
I'm half temp to get some laser cut out to sell!
that makes me not ever wana take mine off...but i gota :cry::cry:
I'm not 100% here, but don't they need to have some flex to them? Always remember them pinging off when trying to refit the side skirts. :ashamed:Quote:
Originally Posted by Matty
Just checked and these were 30p each in '07 :scratch:
:crap:Quote:
Originally Posted by Leigh5T
They were cheap. I have about 20 new ones in the garage. Stupid price they hold.
And before anyone asks- no I am not selling lol
Quote:
Originally Posted by Goobie
You could make them out of 1.2-1.5mm stainless, won't rust then. They need some flex to slide the side skirt under, but not much. :agree:
I have two brandnew packs of ten. Hopefully they will reach the magic number of £450 like the silly gear knobs soon. :cooter:
Pretty sure I got a set of 10 to do both sides for about £12.00 in 2007 lol. Hope Ive got the odd one left in my spares stash!;)
I need these as well, you get the feeling you'll never get your skirts back on :cry:
When all else fails.......Sikaflex!
I'm surprised that these are NLA.
They were also used Kangoos for their side skirts.
Tell us more!! really? so not even under a Renault Kangoo they are available? anyone tried this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt_S
maybe if you buy some of these cut them in half drill a hole in the centre and curl the legs over they would work?
https://twitter.com/turborussell/sta...88076497747969
That's what I'm lead to believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by J$£5GTT
And yes, I've tried.
I was speaking to Bob at CGB and he thinks small items like this are probably still around but in bigger kits under a different part number.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leigh5T
£165 for ten, plus post, bargain.... :laugh:
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item...obalID=EBAY-GB
I actually have 2 pack's of these at home could sell them at slight discount to that price and cover most cost of the private plate, I even have a pack of spare brand new rear number plate lights, and a few other part's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goobie
Here you go...
Side Skirt Clips by the dozen...
You'll first have to send Sébastien a message about paying by PayPal. He speaks
and writes very good English, so please ask nicely :)
Postage to the UK should be about 16 euros, but he'll charge you around 22,
don't ask me why.
With Season's Greetings,
Steve
Good find that, Steve. :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lowiepete
Do buy his whole stock and sell £120 per set? :laugh::laugh::laugh:
Well, I guess there's others that will try that. I bought 2 doz with the intentionQuote:
Originally Posted by Goobie
of keeping a spare set for a future owner. The price of some parts is getting
too stupid for words now; what will it be like for future keepers?
I'm not a fan of turning a hobby into a cheque-book sport and if anyone does
make huge profits from deals like this, it'll dissuade me from ever sharing them
again. We're meant to be in the same boat...
Regards,
Steve
How many clips per side? Is it 6 ?
Thanks
Mark
Which is why they're being sold by the dozen...Quote:
Originally Posted by francob80
Regards,
Steve
Renault used to sell them in tens, of course. ;)
I agree Steve and that's why we (rtoc) should stick together. As you know the committee (mainly dale) have worked hard to give our members the best possible deals on parts where possible. Facebook and dare I say it, other clubs seem to be the the place to flog parts at a ridiculous mark up, taking advantage of current enthusiasts. :sad2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lowiepete
I'm a total noob, could of been twelve a side. Never seen a 5 with the kit off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lowiepete
Thanks for confirming though, very helpful of you. You even did it without a hint of sarcasm.
There five pins per side on my R5 and side skirts, you sure you got six on yours Steve? :confused:
I see a set final bid go at £87 plus post, doesn't sound to bad compared to £165. :laugh:
Unless you go France 13€ per set of course. :agree:
Well, Sebastien reckoned they are sold by the dozen because there's 6 each side.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goobie
At the prices he was charging, whether it's 10 or 12 isn't a problem.
Further research has found a UK supplier where they're just over a quid each.
I haven't tested whether there is much stock, but £16.50 each is just stupid!
As said, the prices of restored cars needs to rocket before that can be justified.
Regards,
Steve
I was joking, but looks like some one on here has stolen my idea, read description! :laugh::laugh:
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item...obalID=EBAY-GB
"Delivery will be within 14 days as new order on the way."
Looks like they haven't even bothered to buy them in!
I don't get why once Renault sell out of stock of an old item, who ever got the last lot must grab some dice, roll them and what ever the number they land on then decide to sell item at that price.
How can something that was 50p or so each turn into sellers price of £165? There no real reason to it?
Why aren't all other stupid clips etc that still in stock got an extra £100 price tag added? Gear knobs, £400 plus! Why?? Years ago no one care'd and binned them. :laugh:
And don't get me started on the rear number plate light len's, £200 plus! :laugh::laugh:
Prices get inflated by greed, supply n demand.
Community spirit is long gone for the most part.
My intention was to support a guy in France who offers these at a reasonable
price. If that guy selling them on got greedy because I posted the link, what's
the point? Either we're here to share our good fortune, or there's no point. I
now feel very disinclined to share my results, I'm so disappointed.
Regards,
Steve
I feel the same as you Steve, yet i try not to let it change my views, I'll still offer what i can (carb jets and base repairs) at fair cost/low prices.
End of the day I want to see prices go up for our cars but i also want to see them on the road being used, not parked up in fear of a £100 clip falls off :sad2:
Unless this shyster is an RTOC member who has taken advantage (unlikely), then I can't see a reason to stop sharing information here to help others. Even if he were a member, the sharing of information helps to usurp his business in this respect. It's exactly what's needed. I don't see any Ebay sales yet at that price and they could simply be forwarding on the ones at £82 at a premium. :agree: The cleverer thing to do would have been to buy these from France cheap and sell them at £60, thus garnering all the Ebay sales. I don't think there is a link here.
I honestly think the RTOC community as it stands is the best there is. Over on fb and other sites it's every man for himself! I've said before we need to stick together and try and help one another. The shop is RTOC'S way of trying to give something back to the loyal community. ;)
I agree with Trev, the more you advertise these things the more people will be aware of them which will stop bandits from trying to make a quick buck from the community.
There's a problem with calling people bandits. Mike at GT Turbo Spares has had someQuote:
Originally Posted by Alex
of these for sale for a while at no less than £16.50 each, so he's now a bandit? Things
are very often priced at "what the market will bear", it's just that tidy cars have yet to
catch up. The probable reason for that is that the current market is for OE, but no-one
has determined the rarity, or not, of OE R5GTTs.
Regards,
Steve
Edit.
No, theres a world of difference between what Mike WAS doing to what the person on eBay IS doing. Mike probably had them for sale at a premium as that is all that was available at that particular time and the market dictated it. He wasn't buying them cheap from the chap in France and selling them on at an inflated price.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Lowiepete
..and there is the dilemma. I take the time and diligence (more hours than I care toQuote:
Originally Posted by Alex
admit) to research these things, post the details here, and charlatans take the info
and profit, with little outlay and all the hard research work done for them.
By the way guys, Seim Window Winders are about to drop off the current list. I paid
around £170 for the pair delivered, which I'm told is a bargain.
One of the very few French suppliers I have found who will despatch to the UK, so
quite a valuable resource...
Regards,
Steve
It's great to be able to add value to the RTOC community off the back of hours of effort, and it would be a real shame for someone to take advantage of that. This has happened on occasion over the last 20 years and people have been dealt with. Thank goodness that hasn't happened in this case.
Will be purchasing 240 of these for the club. CGB have purchased 2000 of them, so will wait to see the price of them from him. These will only go to club members only and not sold to anyone else.
:cool:
Excellent Bigfoot 🙂🙂🙂
good work dale as always :agree::agree::agree::coffee:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigfoot
Now they are 'available' I wonder what CGB will be asking for them?
Maybe the price will be set by RTOC until they all sell then it inflates again.
These are the sort of things that the RTOC shop should be scooping up instead of parts dealers. But having said that, it's their living and business, they can justify the costs and storage as they make a profit and so are motivated for the long run. RTOC at the moment is Dale helping the community while you're able to.
RTOC would need a greater number of dedicated people to really make a difference, it would need to hire a large factory unit for proper storage, have the manpower to dominate all sales of 5GTT parts for any number of year or decades.
240 is only 24 cars. 1000 cars left in the UK. How many need clips? CGB has 200 cars worth. How many does Mike have? Is it worth buying the rest? Wait to see what the eBay price settles to?
RTOC is investing some money at the moment.
They have 360 left. I didn't want to take all their stock as that is it what they were saying. This is Renault stock not remade. I got enough for 20 cars, unless somebody else in the club want to get another bulk lot so it don't look bad on the club
I can do that if you want.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigfoot
Happy to support too.
Pissing me off now, why no UK on the drop down menu for country? Anyone?
Get them purchased! Other clubs would if they could.
I will get these advertised on fb once we have them in the shop.
Well done Dale. :agree:
There is its translated from United Kingdom, took me a while to work that out. It's 2 worded oneQuote:
Originally Posted by Hoolio
thought I had tried all options. That's what comes of being tired, hungry, full of cold and an all round Victor Meldrew. I'll get on it later.
Royaume-uni is United Kingdom
How did you miss it Julian? :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigfoot
Side Skirt Clips by the dozen...
I've been staring at that site for 10 minutes and can't see any menu or options at all anywhere for selecting language. I've clicked on everything I can find that's clickable. But I am very dyslexic.
Am I looking at the wrong site / page? I give up now. Too stressful. Need to get on with something I AM capable of doing.
You're too easily beaten these days Ian :wasntme:
When you mean selecting language, do you mean to translate the site? Maybe they don't offer an English language option embedded in their site. In Chrome you get an automatic pop-up asking you if you want Google to translate the text in the site. Whilst not perfect it does a good enough job usually to allow you to proceed.
What is it you're trying to do specifically? Purchase a bulk load of these clips?
Site says:
"The last production of 1500 pieces ... in stock 12.18.15"
"Price is per piece, but control 12 compulsory parts. It takes 12 for a complete car."
€ 2.59 TTC
You must add at least 12 quantity to buy this product.
Availability: Immediate
Part Reference: 7703080051
Wowee! Some of the other parts prices on there are super cheap in comparison to UK based suppliers too (as per recent discussion) :eek:
Scuttle cover anyone? 15 euro...ha, no longer available.
New FPR 65 euro...
Edit: on further inspection, many of the more desirable parts are NLA. :disagree: Good range of engine bay stickers available.
Yeah been there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian S
I have just ordered another 20 sets for the club.
:smokin:
Another great product to offer the members.
So what will the price be? Are we selling per clip or as 12?
I've got a sample here already and happy to order another batch.
Which I can do. I just need to know how I can go about getting them to the club shop etc for you.
Also seems like you can't order in big batches.Quote:
Originally Posted by danr5Gtt
Anyway got as close as I can to the max number and have ordered. I will pick this order up with Seb tomorrow to double check all ok.
How many are you getting? I have just ordered a stack and Dale has some coming as well. Can you talk to Dale.Quote:
Originally Posted by danr5Gtt
Will speak to Dale. :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoolio
Interested to know how much they are as will no doubt need some when O/S sill is replaced later this year. ;)
CGB and another seller have them up for almost £100 per set on ebay. I think we can all work out that profit margin. taking into account p&p costs and a little on top I guess they should sell on here for less than half that and if selling them by the six??
Will cgb be trying to buy out all the Rtoc stock when it's offered?
Good point.
I wonder if some parts in the shop should be for members-only to buy and even then restricted to how many sets can be bought by the same member without special dispensation.
these are going to be members only I believe trev
:agree:
Members only and 1 set
Brilliant effort from all at RTOC. If any members have ideas or requests and would like to help out( just like you have with the clips) start a thread and off we go! Remember RTOC is here to help all the members keep these old cars on the road!;)
Put me down for a set please DaleQuote:
Originally Posted by Bigfoot
I know how you all like pictures, here's one of these clips that I have from my order I placed and received a few weeks ago.
Attachment 20660
Seb was really helpful as my order nearly ended up in the Pacific Ocean!
:)
Dan, are both those from seb?Quote:
Originally Posted by danr5Gtt
Yes mate. photo taken of both sides for ref.Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt Cole
As for price once all are in will total up costs including shipping divide by number of clips and add PayPal fees to it. Non members can see them at £100 a set I guess. But these I would have though be in region of £28 a set
Dale, I'm wondering how we will advertise the members only price? You know the arseholes are going to say rtoc price is £100.:mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigfoot
I wish now we could have shown both members and non members prices.:crap:
:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt Cole
Are you sure? That seems very "generous" Paypal used a pretty dreadful exchange rate on mine and with P&P added........Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigfoot
£529 for 20 sets delivered, £26.45 a set. That works out at £27.59 a set to cover PayPal fees. Need to add getting the other lot purchased over as well and different postage costs getting them from France with lower amount. Maybe £29
We don't want the people to buy and resell if they join up they purchase a lot at higher price of items especially the speedo dialsQuote:
Originally Posted by Matt Cole
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigfoot
Ok. Mine were £535.75, so clearly a crappier exchange rate, whatever. Whilst I am not keen on making money from members I thought there might be a little more meat in it for the club for future investment in parts.
Ill gladly buy a set for £29, sent Seb a message over a week ago and no reply as yet... :(
Apparently windscreen t piece has gone NLA. How about hovering up available stocks of those,
There's lots of parts going out of stock, thought these had gone out of stock a while ago. Thinking we need to buy stock which is still available but quite a common used item. Plus you get some items like boost hose strap going up in price on eBay, they are only couple of quid each if still available, CGB got them at £15 now
So are these going onto the shop so its first come.....or can we put our names down for a set? :agree:
Will be just going in the shop will have 45+ sets available with 1 set per person.
:agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigfoot
I agree with Julian, I think there ought to be a 'small' return to the club per set after costs. The club needs to profit marginally from its activities in order to stay alive and continue to provide these kinds of benefits to members.
i absolutely agree. people put the time and effort to keeping the site and club alive (thank you all) it only seems right that services and club parts buying should be sustainable, this can only be achieved if there are margarines of profit in these services .the more finances available the more benefit to the club and its member .
Great work from all involved. I'll keep an eye on the shop.
What's needed then is a list of the parts that RTOC should buy from what is still available, how many of each part.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigfoot
Difficult to make an accurate estimation of what, and how many, over what time scale, would be desirable to have in stock.
Is Mike still in the game?
Dale, that seems very reasonable mate tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigfoot
Don't forget post to buyer will be a few quid. I don't think £40 a set delivered is a bad price.
I won't comment on the non member price as I think they're all get swallowed up by members anyway! :)
People need to remember, if you don't need them, don't buy them and they're be available to anyone when the time comes..
They do fk all good sitting in people's stashes and if everyone goes mad for no reason, they'll all be up for £200 a set in a few weeks.
I 100% see most sets going to people that don't need them and just have £40 to burn.
I guess that's why RTOC are trying to source these things and sell them fairly. Its to try and keep our members away from the greedy lot on social media and other clubs. The more members we have the more we can all pull together, the better for the cars and the members.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlashbangGtt
Shame we got accused of monopolising parts recently which could not be further from the truth selling at cost or even at a loss!:sad2:
I'm all for a fair price, nothing worse than some innocent coming along and offering a £200 item for a quid without knowing its valued, with no one kind enough to educate them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt Cole
That said I don't like the bumping, hoarding culture, it makes things worse..
The I did read those comments and I've never heard so much bullsh1t, the main gobsh1te really should go drown in some pi55.
On the flip side
If parts don't sell, then Manufactors don't continue to make them as there's no profit in stock that don't sell.
Us or people buying stock helps more at keep Manufactors making the parts.
Remember half of the R5's live in the garage 8 out of 12 months of the year so the replacement parts demand is low.
According to howmanyareleft, more like 6.5 out 10 stay in the garage in the winter SORN'd, with that changing to maybe 6 out of 10 in the summer months.
They have arrived, will take picture tonight. 20 sets so far and more to arrive later on which hopefully be end of week or beginning of next.
I see they're in the shop now, I'd like to purchase a set but £999.00 is a bit much :crap:
:laugh: go on Clarky you could set a record!:DQuote:
Originally Posted by clarky_gtt
This is the price, read and weep. RTOC has to survive somehow.
:laugh:
The rear side windows fixings would be another good thing to source in, their gone from £18 a set to £75 now I see.
Are these now NLA?
They were a lot less than that from Renault. Problem being is what items do we buy up loads of stock from Renault before it goes out of stock I guess. I'll have a look through parts listing and create a list and ask opinions of worth getting in for the shop and enough to keep just in case they go out of stock
Exactly!!! if its something people think they need and price is sensible versus it going out of stock then its worth it :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigfoot
Received my clips today,tip top :agree::)
£100 :laugh: :laugh:
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item...obalID=EBAY-GB
Received my set of side skirt clips today, big thanks and top work Dale :agree::agree::cool:
Dale, thanks for sending mine, but I asked you to keep hold of them til the rivets were in the shop and send together!:rolleyes:
Rivets been in shop for ages. I try and keep on top of posting out. Need to put carb bits on soon