Don't forget lads, 10 mins till we see the GTT on Fifth Gear! :)
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Don't forget lads, 10 mins till we see the GTT on Fifth Gear! :)
8pm C5
Is that feature on first then?
Is this BigSteves GTT?
yep! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Penfold
First u and millie are on TopGear and now your car is going to be on Telly....
Bigsteve the Celeb!
haha awesome its on 1st :D
yesssssssssssssssssssss
come on the 5!!!!!!!
No Bling At The Ring 07!!
Was the 5 standard hp?
Aww unlucky renault 5 lol :D
Its all about the No bling at the ring 07 sticker :laugh:
Stick some tyres on it Steve............ REMATCH!!!!!!:D
ha!!!,shud av wound up da boooooost!!!! :cooter:Quote:
Originally Posted by sphinX-B17GTT
:D
I say we all chip in and buy Big Steve some decent rubber :laugh::laugh:
iz dat wiv da boost???Quote:
Originally Posted by J$£5GTT
FCUK!! either that was fixed. the 5's got a boost leak, or the twingo really is better! im sure steve mentioned it was running more than std boost too!!
so what boost was the 5 actually running.?
what boost does the twingo run as std.?
he said 120bhp??????
i was frowning at that
im sure it was a bit of a fix if u ask me
:((very upset)
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Originally Posted by Bigfoot
dont think it matters really coz the 'bling'
sticka was on tv !!!
:)
All about precipitation innit. :cry:
nah plato was crapping it in the 5 in the wet,,,:laugh:
I enjoyed that! Nice one Steve, car looks great! :)
yeah the raider looked sweet as,:agree:
for ****s sake, missed it :mad:
how wet did it wannabe??? i take it steves raider was on the uniroyals!? they r w**k in the wet. :cry:
any money if that was a bone dry day the 5 would of had it....
dont worry mine will be at the meet ;):laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Spooky
yeh im thinking that i think that and also drove with crap weather r5 gt turbo in the rain???NOT GOOD :( .race in the dry then a winner imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by dgdogz
missed too ,arse biscuits :crap:
Big Steve I love you......my neighbours are all stuck up and toffee nosed :mart:. They look at the 5 in despair when it’s sat on the drive, and wonder why I spend so long cleaning and messing with it.
If they all watch 5th gear, they will all now be much wiser and my street acceptance has just risen! :wasntme:
Doesn't channel 5 have a catch up wesite like all the other channels? :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Schakal
http://demand.five.tv/watchnow.aspx
5's are now being talked about as a cool old classic yay:) :agree:
no more ali g **** :dearme::disagree:
good darts me ol' bean :D :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by J8TRO
def gotta be a rematch in the dry with sum proxies on !!! and bang up the boost lol will kill off the newe pile of c**p!!
DODGY TYRES how could you what happened to preparation but it was in the wet tho and they should know R5's dont like rain??? Unlucky tho nice raider and plus i would not be seen dead in a twingo anyhow....But maybe this is the new engine transplant material:wasntme:
You mean... there are ACTUALLY cars out there better than Renault 5 GT Turbos?
:rolleyes:
how did our results poll get on ?
people are going to be looking at me more now in my car :D
the raider is even more special now cuz its bin on tv:cooter:
gta love the 5's :)
Chuffed to feck to see that 'No bling at the Ring' shot :laugh:
Good arrows mate, your Raider done you proud :cool:
:mad::cry::mad::cry: Its a conspiracy!!! put them in the dry and see the outcome....:devil:
Car looked awesome mate, shame they didnt show a RTOC sticker.....
Either way I know what I would sooner be riving........:coffee:
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the twingo had a cup pack it wasant standard it should be standard v's standard
That was great.Shame it wasnt dry and it didnt win but was a good watch anyway.Nice1 for letting them use your car.
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Originally Posted by nath17t
Not bad thinking, but if Steve's car is running what it reads on his profile i.e
Turbo typeT2 - T25 HybridBoost Pressure (@ manifold)15psiThe standard 5 would have been totally fecked against this Luke warm shopping trolley .:coffee:
the 5 looked great on track even if it was raining. think im going to look into geting a standrd set of wheels for mine now:)
I love the praise the presenters give after the time test. Especially the fact that the mentioned it being the cooler choice than your average golf gti. Its so true. So many people comment on them! Damn Im proud to have 5!
Raider looked spot on :cool:
absolute quality! they didnt mention the feature in the beginning but it came through in the end!
totally brilliant and the raider looked spot on! and the two presenters comments about it being better than the golf gti made my day! :agree::smokin::D
Some of us owned a 5gtt when they first came out and were untouchable on the streets racing round hillingdon O Happy days:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by car.crash
where im working now i keep some magazines on the front so people can read them, and these mags have features in them with 5s in, and when people see them they have fond memories of them and have nice things to say and they always go and have a look around the back when i tell them ive got one :)
one guy last week says he used to own a black raider, thing is its not the first time someone has mentioned a black raider? do they exist?
funny you should say that.! when i was in my last years of school i used to see no end of black gtt's with black speedline with polished rims! you could call them black raiders!!??Quote:
Originally Posted by 5alldaway
i very much doubt that there where any out the factory black raiders though.!
That was great, win or lose, I no what ill be driving to work in in the monring, and you would have to give me alot more than 3k to drive mine, as im keeping it for good, it mine and it never going to be for sale :)
Sweet car mate, you done well letting them use it respect:agree:
For those of you who missed it on telly last night & those of you not in the UK i've uploaded it onto YouTube
Thanks for all the great comments guys, i was really chuffed to read them, i think she did us all proud & hopefully made some non RTOC people think about these little french fighters again!! :wasntme::wasntme:
Just to clarify a few things, the car was fitted with 4 brand new Uniroyal's in original 195 55 13 fitment days before the shoot so the tyres weren't old or off theyre just CRAP tyres :crap: and even on the day Jason said to me that it was the tyres that let the car down.
Secondly thanks to Andrew Cooke she was blessed with some Ferrodo DS2500 brake pads prior to that day also so the brakes were feeling at their best.
Finally the boost is set at 15psi as indicated on my profile so she was going well alright.
I think on another dry day it would have been much much closer.
Anyway it certainly sounded better, did anyone hear the GTT Angry Burble as it went past camera! :laugh: Loved it!!
Proud as punch Big Steve :D:D:D:D
:agree:...love ya stevo, nice mate , made me crack a smile an remember why i have 5 gt`s to my name!!!!!!:D, good work steve...gtt`s...:guitarhero:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mart
I must say I thought the Raider was standard and only running 8-10 psi so I'm a little surprised it didn't beat the Twingo? I guess those Uniroyal tyres must be pretty bad!
Either way the Raider looked excellent and sounded amazing - I know which car I'd rather have! :cool:
hey has anyone downloaded this clip???Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex
or have a copy?
im off-shore in africa and have just found out that it was on last night aaaagggghhhhh?????
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Originally Posted by blue mackay
This link should hopefully take you there?!
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=R6P28_BtuTs
Never had a problem running Uniroyals on track with ol' Trusty, come rain or shine.
Therefore, I conclude Plato must be a cr8p driver then ;) :D
brand new Uniroyals in the rain worse than crap IMO and she would have probably gone quicker with less boost. Also it was a very narrow track to be fair to Mr Plato he wouldnt want to bin a punters car but would have less qualms with the Twingo. Also no doubt the Twingo has all sorts of electronic driver aids which will be a big advantage in the wet.
195/45 on a 15 would have made a massive difference. But in the end my abiding memory will be Jason's smile driving the Raider. :D
Well done BigSteve and the raider. I cant wait to watch this later having recorded it last night :) I think 5th gear gets repeated guys anyway for those of you who missed it, so keep an eye on the tv lisitngs this week :)
Anyone thought about sending an invite to Fifth Gear for our ND? Even if they say no, at least it kinda shows we appreciate the fact they at least featured a gtt, even if it was comparing it to its newer brother.
i think that would be a idea. noticed somebody mentioned putting a set of toyo proxies on, when i mentioned toyos on the 205 gti drivers boards i was laughed away, been told eagle f1s are much better,, well done with the r5 anyhow, ill watch it tonight when i finish work.
Nothing wrong with Toyo's, they do the job and for the money you wont get no better.
I only ever put toyos on my toy cars, i havent had any issue's with them, Mart runs them on his Evo and that does a low 9min lap round the Nurburgring.
Mart needs to get R888's on the EVO and drop those jankie road tyres which are cr*p :D then get some time perfecting the limits of the car and then watch that time F A L LQuote:
Originally Posted by Penfold
Std ish clio 172 cup can do a 9 min lap :P
THe later T1-R are a bit better and for the money quite good but once you drive on the R888's they just dont do it - cant wait for the revised track tyres to be released in my sizes so I can live with them in the wet also lol
High 8's now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Penfold
T1R's FTW, although I do want to try a set of 888's as Grier is forever waxing lyrical about them.
Then ask them for a rematch.....:devil:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mart
As someone picked up on earlier, the boost wound up prob did more harm than good in the wet, in the dry it would have been alot closer, dare i say the GTT would have had the Twingo, IMO of course.
I like Marts idea of the invite as well :cool:
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Originally Posted by raj
The RenaultSport Twingo is a 1.6 VVT 133BHP iirc
Non turbo. The Renault Twingo GT is the 1.2 Turbo with 100BHP iirc.
I missed it too, I was stuck in traffic on the way home from work, so will be watching on that 5 catchup thingy when I get in tonight...
Happy Days!!
Toyo T1R`s are great, I find them so grippy. Even in the wet they are good. I did think about trying the Eagle F1`s but noticed the tread pattern now has completely changed,
http://www.cartuningcentral.com/wp-c...asymmetric.jpg
na mate, nuffink beetz da r5 gtttttiQuote:
Originally Posted by Tiny Tim
Quality idea :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mart
The original 'No Bling 07' sticker on show :cool: :)
Props to Fifth Gear for having a GT Turbo on their programme, looked good.
One for the Committee to send an email/make contact with them?Quote:
Originally Posted by BriC
[quote=Ricardo;35093]The original 'No Bling 07' sticker on show :cool: :)
Hey so my stickers have been across europe and on telly...:laugh:, well done again stevie boy..our very own rtoc celeb motor...:D
:agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeA
car did well in the wet, looked well nice, love the ring sticker shown. maybe with a driver more suited to 5's things would have been different, and in the wet i think it would be different to
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I also uploaded the video onto youtube (you beat me to it steve!):
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=WCDfhSNsyhk&fmt=18
To be fair my car on its 13's with uniroyals used to be all over the shop in the wet. It's amazing the difference some 15 inch wheels with 45 profile toyos makes.
Nice to see the 5 on telly though and some nice comments made by all of them :)
congrats Steve
with the twingo being heavier, wouldnt that have made it more stable in the poor conditions?
I hope the raider dont get to stuck up and continues on going to the ring and other track days through out 2009 steve!! :D
just watched it again on channel fiver at 8 and its on again at 9pm on fiver+1 if any1s missed it on the telly. :agree:
Thats a huge pattern change, are you sure they are F1's?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam M
Channel 5 Catch up or what ever its called didnt work on my laptop for some reason...:mad:
So instead I watched it on YouTube.
Shame the shoot out was only 4 minutes long, it would have been good if they had done a longer review on the cars.
I agree with comments, and I have driven the Twingo RS. 5's are renowned for being pants in the wet on original rubber.
In the try it WOULD have been a different story.
My Raider even gave my 172 a run for its money.
Considering, thats a 20 year old 1.4 Turbo vs a modern age 172BHP 2.0 Clio it surprised me.
You put any other 20 year old hot hatch against its modern day rival and it would get crucified..
But it was great to watch Steves car going round being driven by Jason...
Well done Steve.
I will hopefully see you at an event soon mate!
[quote=Duncan Grier;35029]Mart needs to get R888's on the EVO and drop those jankie road tyres which are cr*p :D then get some time perfecting the limits of the car and then watch that time F A L L
Std ish clio 172 cup can do a 9 min lap :P
:laugh:
[quote=jesus in the seat of a 5;35098]Quote:
Originally Posted by Ricardo
Fail, as mentioned the 'original' and first 'No Bling 07' stickers, sorted by moi :D :)
[quote=J$£5GTT;35335]Driven by a pro who knows the track inside out, on a non-public day no doubt :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Duncan Grier
[quote=Ricardo;35354]And thought of by moi :DQuote:
Originally Posted by jesus in the seat of a 5
[quote=Mart;35361]Quote:
Originally Posted by Ricardo
Tis true squire :cool:
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Originally Posted by Big Steve - Raider
As you should be mate. Well done. Aint fame great!!:):D:D
Yeah!! well done on your hard work too I remember chatting to you at Mallory :) and seeing the car then :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by James_Surridge G1 5 GTT
Just think when you do sell it (not that you would) but you could say "As shown on TV" in the advert :laugh:
[quote=Ricardo;35354]ahh fair do`s i did last years riccccccyyyyyy...:o...it :wasntme:Quote:
Originally Posted by jesus in the seat of a 5
congrats steve, done us proud mate! :D
Absoultely fantastic. Makes me proud with a tear in my eye. Large doses of respect for uploading on Youtube as I can't access the Demand5 from here :agree:
Yep 100%, I was in a friends garage recently when he had some delivered for a customer and we were shocked at the change of tread pattern.Quote:
Originally Posted by tonesGTT
Shame. Good tyre with what i thought was a cool tread pattern, which was a bonus.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam M
Eagle F1's are toilet tyres. I had them once and nearly died every time I drove the car :laugh:
They have been revised about 94 times since then, but I wouldn't go near them with a barge pole after the experience I had!
Awesome feature, your car did us all proud!:cool:
My opinion is 5's regardless of tyre size are all pretty sketchy in the wet! but having 13's in those conditions is just like pissing in the wind.
Anyone seen the comments from Matthew Tiller has made on the on the following Fifth Gear streaming link??
To save you the bother of clicking there have a read below:
Matthew Tiller 14 January 2009 14:07
Hello,
A real shame, I thought, that the Fifth Gear team chose to race the new Twingo against a 5 Turbo with knackered old tyres as I don't think the challenge provided a fair reflection of the cars performance. There are plenty of well maintained Fives out there running on new tyres (mine for one). I know I shouldn't take it personally but I have! Additionally ,a final point is that when the R5 left the factory the turbo was set to boost at a very conservative 6psi and will run comfortably at pressures of up to 12psi without causing damage or excessive wear to other components.
So, please conduct the same test only this time use my car which standard throughout (no mods) and has a brand spanking set of tyres.
Are you a member of the RTOC Matthew??
If so I look forward to discussing your criticisms of my car at the next RTOC meet....
Does anyone know the :sourgrapes: smiley?? :dearme:
These are links to download the episode if you've not seen it
http://rapidshare.com/files/18038149...iVER.part1.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/18038246...iVER.part2.rar
Your 5 looks tidy mate well done, :smokin:
I recieved this message through YouTube:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mart
Hi Steve,
Did you enjoy the shootout then?
Mark (the director)
So following on from Mart's post I've replied with the following:
Hi Mark,
Yeah the shootout was FANTASTIC mate!!
Top marks for getting the No Bling at the Ring 07 Sticker in, that made me & half the owners club chuckle alright!! :-D
As a thank you we'd like to invite Fifth Gear to one of the Renault Turbo Owners Club days if you would be interested?? We've two planned for this year, a day at Santa Pod Raceway & then a Day at Mallory Park?? Maybe you could make use of one of our events for a feature on the show or have a hot hatch shootout or something???
We'd certainly like the opportunity to have a re-match versus the Twingo on a dry track someday!!
If you're interested or we/I can help you any further please don't hesitate to contact me?
Regards
Steve
Will let you know if I get a response?!
Matthew Tiller - What a complete & utter fecking cheese flavoured prick of the highest order.
At 6psi, the Twingo would've definitely trounced the gtt, let alone giving it a reasonable crack running 1bar, and to be fair, in the wet, on standard 13" rims, it's not really gonna make that much difference which tyre is being used; the Twingo would probably still win.
They also left the factory with anything from 5-10psi boost (sharky French tolerances), and they'll run considerably more than 12psi without inflicting damage or excessive wear if set up correctly.
It would be a fairer test in the dry, but regardless, the motor got featured on tv, which is always a nice thing to see, and it put on a bloody good show considering the technology of a gtt is 25 years old at best.
Well done Steve with the 'invite'. Let's hope they reply back :)
It would be a fairer test in the dry, but regardless, the motor got featured on tv, which is always a nice thing to see, and it put on a bloody good show considering the technology of a gtt is 25 years old at best.
Well done Steve with the 'invite'. Let's hope they reply back :)[/quote]
:agree:...well said mart, couldnt agree more, top darts...:)
You know that, my holy bro :agree: :cool:
love your 5 steve
and regardless of any road test the 5 is better in so many ways especially with regards to looks and road presences to tunibility, the twingo is definatly aimed for the young 18 year olds wheres as the 5 has a much wider audience FACT! :)
Disagree. Most people who don't know much about cars (which is the vast majority of people) just see it as an old chav mobile. That's from my experience anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by matty j
First post!
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Originally Posted by Big Steve - Raider
I am the person in question and I made the post on the Fifth Gear website.
I would like to say that I made my comments in reference only to the information presented on the Fifth Gear programme where they stated that the tyres were "old rubber".
After reading the posts on this site it is clear that I made my comments whilst not being in possesion of the facts and I now feel stupid for doing so. I therefore apologise unreservedly.
I did however think that your car looked stunning on the programme and I was extremely happy that the R5gtt was featured on prime time national TV. Anybody who successfully raises the profile of this beautiful french beast deserves a massive pat on the back imo.
So please accept my apology, it was never my intention to cause offence to a fellow 5 turbo owner.
Fair play Matthew. Nice to see some adult responses on this site sometimes.
:agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiny Tim
dittoQuote:
Originally Posted by BriC
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Originally Posted by Mart
Hello Mart,
I can't say I've ever been refered to as a complete & utter fecking cheese flavoured prick of the highest order before, but I guess there's always a first time.
I think you may have been a little bit quick to jump down my throat though, although I do now understand that the comments I made on the Fifth Gear website may have caused offence to yourself, steve and other, better informed, users of this site and for that I am sorry. In future I will refrain from making ill informed comments about other peoples cars!
As for the Information regarding the boost settings on the GT after leaving the factory etc. I was only going on information provided to me by various sources such as Mark Fish who used to race the R5GTT and the guy at CGB Motorsport. It is my understanding that although it is possible to run the standard 5 turbo at pressures of up to 15psi without causing things to explode/break/drop off, this may result in, for example, the clutch wearing out significantly quicker than it would with the boost set lower.
Am I wrong? If I am then I will be forced to take my motor back to Mr Fish and have the boost ramped up immediately.
:goodpost:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tillax
What a first post though!! :laugh:
Welcome to the club mate & fair play for stepping forward & making yourself known!! Big respect to you for that!!
:goodJob::niceone:
All is cool for school now mate.
So get some pics up of your car in your profile & add a new posting to the Say Hello board to introduce yourself. :D
Ahhh feel the love.
Big Steve. He's large as f**k, but soft as cheese.
on a cold dayQuote:
Originally Posted by Tiny Tim
Matt you'll soon learn on this website how to do all the work yourself & save taking it to any tuners.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tillax
You'll get nothing but respect from Mart :mart: when he see's your postings on here but he's been around these cars since nelson was a boy hence the reason he's got his own smiley -->:mart: & knows an awful lot.
Lol! I'm feeling the love, what a nice Friday afternoon :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Tiny Tim
Welcome to the club Tillax, enjoy your stay :agree:
I must BREAK you!!! :laugh: :wasntme:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiny Tim
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Originally Posted by Big Steve - Raider
I shall give my car the mother of all cleans this weekend and take some photographs and post them up.
...and my god this site is busy, I'm worried that joining may have a negative impact on my work life!
Haha, I'm glad you've realised that already. Prepare for your work to suffer :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Tillax
Matthew, welcome to the club.
Don't take my comments to heart too much; I wear my heart on my sleeve when it comes to gtt's & the rtoc, simply because I have a strong passion for them both, and thus it p1sses me off no end when I see one or the other being bad mouthed. Your post on 5th Gear's forum came across as arrogant with a touch of 'my car is better than yours' vibe to it, although, in hindsight, now you've posted on here & shown true colours, maybe that isn't the case after all.
Mark's a great guy, and for sure knows the gtt's inside out, but in fairness he only ever built them for racing (of which he's done an awesome job over the years), yet maybe he didn't/hasn't fully explored the power potential of the c1j. If that were the case, as a tongue in cheek example, I'm sure we'd have seen a Mark Fish prepared gtt running 11's or 12's at the Pod before now.
Sure, running more power than o.e will always have a detrimental effect on the engine & running gear; that can be said of any car, but there's plenty of gtt's out there running double the o.e power figure, that are as reliable as the day they left the factory. For sure, there's plenty of aftermarket parts available to cope with the increase in power, although it's possible to get good power levels retaining/using o.e parts - Pistons & liners being a good example there.
Anyway, fair play for stepping up & showing face on here, and as you'll find out over time, it's a happy place to be, and that I'm not so much the obnoxious **** that you're probably thinking I am from first impressions.
Look forward to seeing those pic's of your gtt.
Really good to see the boys "playing nice"....beats the bad old days of people "gobbing off" willy nilly eh Mart???:wasntme::wasntme::wasntme::sad:
Indeed, mainly because the majority of the sh1t stirrers have long since gone.
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no im still here lol
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