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Oh blimey it does look nice, surprised a pongo can keep it that clean ;)
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Scoff
220hp is pretty easy to do in terms of picking the right parts but you need to spend some time on getting the carburettor right, it gets tricky at that power level.
parts wise a standard engine with BP285, springs, T28 running 22psi or so and a good (as large as you can fit) intercooler will see you there. forget overly big downpipes, fancy exhausts, headwork, 'race' plugs, leads, all that crap, you don't need any of it.
thats my next move when i have funds, new engine and set up so i can change between oe engine standard little turbo 15psi and oe cam, an big turbo and 285 cam , clutch and none the fancie crap just clean tidy set up good cooling and lots more power :D
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raj
maybe time was an issue? he may have been going back n forth to iraq/afgstn!
im sure it was james car that ive seen a vid clip of.? was going kinda quick and im sure he was being followed by a kitcar? caterham? it looked quick never the less:agree:
james,what has your engine had done to it? your profile doesnt tell much.
T'was tongue in cheek, hence the smileys :rolleyes::smokin:
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can you give me a ruff guide what ill be running??
ive got group a carb
uprated feul pump
chargecooler kit
vnt turbo 16psi
green cotton large air filter
volvo clutch
l&b flywheel
lucking for around 170?? u reckon ime neally thair ??:)
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It is all down to the correct fuelling. I thought I was running 140 - 150bhp @ 15psi but after a trip to the rollers I only made 118bhp. :cry:The car was running way way too rich (9.6 @WOT). If your carb is group A it may not mean it's set up to run 16psi. With the right fuelling 150 - 160 @ 16psi should be about right.
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Newbstar,
My white 5 has the front mount and T28 but on a standard engine... i will put the front mount and turbo on my grey 5 as that has the low comp pistons and 285cam.
The white 5 will have a small turbo on a standard engine and the grey 5 will have a large turbo on it.
Just waiting for the weather to improve :-)
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raj
im sure it was james car that ive seen a vid clip of.? was going kinda quick and im sure he was being followed by a kitcar? caterham? it looked quick never the less:agree:
on route to the wrexham rolling road last year;)
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Tiny Tim
No disrespect James, was that advertised as one of their "350bhp" engines?
No not at all....ALSO please bear in mind we could go down the clasic "tuner or yourself" argument here........
I dont have the time or inclanation to do even the most basic mechanical things with an R5.
I had the money.....I spent it.....got exactly what I wanted with good customer service.
Thanks for the comments Mark and Chris..:agree:
Errr I have travelled to Wrexham once or twice!!:burnrubber:
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Originally Posted by
James_Surridge G1 5 GTT
No not at all....ALSO please bear in mind we could go down the clasic "tuner or yourself" argument here........
I dont have the time or inclanation to do even the most basic mechanical things with an R5.
I had the money.....I spent it.....got exactly what I wanted with good customer service.
fairplay to ya! :D
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Originally Posted by
raj
maybe time was an issue? he may have been going back n forth to iraq/afgstn!
im sure it was james car that ive seen a vid clip of.? was going kinda quick and im sure he was being followed by a kitcar? caterham? it looked quick never the less:agree:
james,what has your engine had done to it? your profile doesnt tell much.
All in the article Raj. Your right Iraq and Afghan were certainly an issue. :agree:
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Originally Posted by
renault5gtboi
can you give me a ruff guide what ill be running??
ive got group a carb
uprated feul pump
chargecooler kit
vnt turbo 16psi
green cotton large air filter
volvo clutch
l&b flywheel
lucking for around 170?? u reckon ime neally thair ??:)
you'll be getting 150bhp.
the vnt produces torque low down, and a standard cam doesnt rev too well. hence why the low bhp figure, but good torque. imho..
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Originally Posted by
Penfold
Newbstar,
My white 5 has the front mount and T28 but on a standard engine... i will put the front mount and turbo on my grey 5 as that has the low comp pistons and 285cam.
The white 5 will have a small turbo on a standard engine and the grey 5 will have a large turbo on it.
Just waiting for the weather to improve :-)
Personally didnt like the low com set up,wasnt responsive low down.Also poor mpg return,carb was set aswell,everyone to there own though.
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I did not like my old low comp engine, no power what so ever before boost and it always felt you had to run more boost to compensate.
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Originally Posted by
Sparkie
you'll be getting 150bhp.
the vnt produces torque low down, and a standard cam doesnt rev too well. hence why the low bhp figure, but good torque. imho..
ime getting a 285 piper cam and forge high comprestion wossner pistons and conrods then run at 26psi what can i look to achive then?? :)as to compared from my 150hp at the moment
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Originally Posted by
renault5gtboi
ime getting a 285 piper cam and forge high comprestion wossner pistons and conrods then run at 26psi what can i look to achive then?? :)as to compared from my 150hp at the moment
Prob a holed piston or cracked liner :wasntme:
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5teve L
Prob a holed piston or cracked liner :wasntme:
ime getting some steel liners mate lol !! i forgot to mention that ;)
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renault5gtboi
ime getting some steel liners mate lol !! i forgot to mention that ;)
Doesn't mean squat if it's not set up right, you'll be lucky to get to 26psi, i was at 24 psi manifold & it was running out of fuel @ 6k & that was with some propper jetting.. none of this grp A carp..
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5teve L
Doesn't mean squat if it's not set up right, you'll be lucky to get to 26psi, i was at 24 psi manifold & it was running out of fuel @ 6k & that was with some propper jetting.. none of this grp A carp..
good old marky b with the orange r5 gunna help me so i reckon ill get thair ;) as i bought the car off him originally and hees pushing 230hp with kinda standard internals so he mush be fueling them correct with his vnt
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Mart
R11102
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Perhaps I'm missing what's special about 26psi, or is it 'pluck a random boost figure out the air' again?
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Itz coz my m8 Danny sayz i cn .:p
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Mart
Perhaps I'm missing what's special about 26psi, or is it 'pluck a random boost figure out the air' again?
yeah it was a ruff figre as i carnt exactly say it could be 26 or 26.1 or 26.9 couldent it lmao:p i just ment a good top of 20psi figre thats wat ime aiming for sorry for not been pricise!!!
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What Mart was getting at is 26psi is alot of boost, you shouldn't need to run that much...
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Exactly. High boost pressure isn't the be all & end all of obtaining a high hp... :rolleyes:
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Mart
Exactly. High boost pressure isn't the be all & end all of obtaining a high hp... :rolleyes:
lol bt it sowndz....,,. gd dwn da macdeez init........!!1! lolololooll
:sad:
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Originally Posted by
newbstar*
Personally didnt like the low com set up,wasnt responsive low down.Also poor mpg return,carb was set aswell,everyone to there own though.
would this not be down to the turbo size rather than the engine being low compression ??? im assuming it was a t28?
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Mart
Exactly. High boost pressure isn't the be all & end all of obtaining a high hp... :rolleyes:
hark at Mr standard:laugh:
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Adam L
What Mart was getting at is 26psi is alot of boost, you shouldn't need to run that much...
bear with me lol ime learning ime no engine scientist like u guys i wanna know how to get the max out put for my mentiond parts and if high comp is best or low comp?? piston to relate to the boost to not over boost my turbo if you know wat i mean :)
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My last engine did 190bhp at 17psi. Spent a long time setting it up.:p
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My current GT engine i had fitted to clio ran 110mph trap at 18-19psi map...No gas before anyone says.... and that lump is going in my ph1 :)... 67 runs down the strip, some reved to 8.2k and some up to 25psi and gas all std inners apart from cam... Never failed or missed a beat...
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renault5gtboi
bear with me lol ime learning ime no engine scientist like u guys i wanna know how to get the max out put for my mentiond parts and if high comp is best or low comp?? piston to relate to the boost to not over boost my turbo if you know wat i mean :)
renault5gtboi, what the guys are saying is that it's mighty hard work to get 26psi fueling properly. steel liners are not what you want, standard are plenty strong enough. you also do not want high compression, maybe you are confusing it with low compression ? what they're really saying is that things will break if the tune isn't 100% correct, regardless of steel this, forged that. aim for 20psi, and it's been known to make over 200hp at that when done right. it'll be a lot more reliable for you too.
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Andrew Cooke
hark at Mr standard:laugh:
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Mart
you know you want 30psi in that new c1j mart.:devil:
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Subtract 20psi or so, and that's where it's at bro.
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Mart
Subtract 20psi or so, and that's where it's at bro.
So no changes in the pipe line at all or to try out any ideas etc? just nice and std :)
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Hook, line, sinker :agree:
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Scoff
renault5gtboi, what the guys are saying is that it's mighty hard work to get 26psi fueling properly. steel liners are not what you want, standard are plenty strong enough. you also do not want high compression, maybe you are confusing it with low compression ? what they're really saying is that things will break if the tune isn't 100% correct, regardless of steel this, forged that. aim for 20psi, and it's been known to make over 200hp at that when done right. it'll be a lot more reliable for you too.
im running 20psi on my r5, an its rappid. all i have is front mount an new turbo with a head gasket, new pistons liners an tht. to get 200bhp safe spend cash on wise things rather than just wack the boost up
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d110rkjste
New poster! (less than 10 posts)
im running 20psi on my r5, an its rappid. all i have is front mount an new turbo with a head gasket, new pistons liners an tht. to get 200bhp safe spend cash on wise things rather than just wack the boost up
I'm glad its got a gasket mate!:o
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MATT C Ringworm Tuning
I'm glad its got a gasket mate!:o
Really? I run mine without, I find it too restrictive.
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i have a gt2056 running at around 18-20 psi with a side exit exhaust, not much lag at all got alloy carb top twin core intercooler and alloy boost pipes what you guys think id be running roughly? bear in mind its beaten my bros 5 which has been rr'd at 187 bhp (running a T3)
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why when peeps ask what power do you think ive got they then list aload of parts that have no bearing on power ie alloy carb top ,alloy boost pipes ???
im my opinion the only parts that will have a noticeable affect on power is the cam,turbo ,exhaust,carb mods/intake system and maybe I/C apart from that listing shiney bits doesnt add more power :)
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Mudslinger
why when peeps ask what power do you think ive got they then list aload of parts that have no bearing on power ie alloy carb top ,alloy boost pipes ???
im my opinion the only parts that will have a noticeable affect on power is the cam,turbo ,exhaust,carb mods/intake system and maybe I/C apart from that listing shiney bits doesnt add more power :)
dont say that i thought all the bling added an extra 100bhp!! ;)
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lol sorry was copying from a list i made :S my bad. So instead of ripping into my mistake :ashamed:, you happen to have an idea?
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LampsR5
New poster! (less than 10 posts)
lol sorry was copying from a list i made :S my bad. So instead of ripping into my mistake :ashamed:, you happen to have an idea?
Im not ripping you m8 , i see the same thing on the boards almost on a daily basis, if i was to say what power i thought you had then you would think i was ripping you ;)
best bet would be to get it down to a rr and see ,failing that alot of peeps on here recon the best gauge of how much power you have is to run it down the strip :)
stating it beats my m8s is just nonsence imo :)
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Originally Posted by
Mudslinger
Im not ripping you m8 , i see the same thing on the boards almost on a daily basis, if i was to say what power i thought you had then you would think i was ripping you ;)
best bet would be to get it down to a rr and see ,failing that alot of peeps on here recon the best gauge of how much power you have is to run it down the strip :)
stating it beats my m8s is just nonsence imo :)
Mine also, a different driving style/technique or just the different turbo can make alot of difference to which car is quicker, tyres, set up...
Best way is to RR them on the same day :) Or 'av it out on the strip
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Either way, does it really matter?
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Mart
Either way, does it really matter?
It would seem so Mart, yes ;)
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general rule of thumb:
assuming you have a decent cam, turbo, free flowing exhaust and have the fuelling correctly, it seems to follow that whatever boost you are running, just times it by 10 to get the bhp.... only seems to vary slightly by -10 or +10bhp.
:coffee:
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Mart
Either way, does it really matter?
odd post this 1 :confused:
i think it probably matters to every member of this club except you Mart , Most owners of any car want to know what power there car makes no?
or what would be the point of spending so much time /money and effort modifing them if we never new what power your car had gained from the mods.