Engine swap R5 turbo???

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22-06-2013, 18:48
footlongstrong

Engine swap R5 turbo???

Hey guys,
Its finally time to start thinking about what to do with my engine after the turbo had a mid life crisis on me and blew up :cry:
What would most of you recommend for quick power??? i was thinking of a clio 182 lump but not sure how easy the transplant is etc?
Also do alot of people like to keep R5 turbos with there pushrod engines to make them worth more in later life or would people prefer reliable power? I personnaly would prefer reliable power but im also a R5 enthusiast so can appritiate its frowned upon, so just after general feedback and what engine bolts in fairly easy as i want it up and running for retro rides in august.

Thanks for looking guys :scratch:
22-06-2013, 19:08
Penfold aka The Dealer

Re: Engine swap R5 turbo???

1*2 engine is good but needs everything from donor car, also needs a different bonnet. I have the 1.8 16v engine, very reliable, good power, great sound (due to the Yamaha R1 carb conversion).... Easy swap.....

I personally want a c1j, purely cos I would like to return to original at some point.... If your interested in a engine bay swap let me know haha... Or of you want to sell your stuff pm me ;)
22-06-2013, 19:14
footlongstrong

Re: Engine swap R5 turbo???

Hi penfold,
what sort of power is it running? It would be something im interested in, have you got any pics, also was it a fairly easy conversation.

I take it doing the 182 conversion the engine sits higher thats why you need a different bonnet?
22-06-2013, 19:19
Penfold aka The Dealer

Re: Engine swap R5 turbo???

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Originally Posted by footlongstrong

Hi penfold,
what sort of power is it running? It would be something im interested in, have you got any pics, also was it a fairly easy conversation.

I take it doing the 182 conversion the engine sits higher thats why you need a different bonnet?

Yeh plenty of people have done engine swaps, loads more info if you do a search ;), my thread is on the project section of the boards, some pics of my engine there (sorry on my phone ATM and can't post the link up)..

Edit

Here's the link to my thread
https://rtoc.org/boards/showthread.php?t=24109
22-06-2013, 19:21
footlongstrong

Re: Engine swap R5 turbo???

ok brilliant ill have a look now.cheers
22-06-2013, 19:51
NRG

Re: Engine swap R5 turbo???

I considered a swap but the simplicity of the old pushrod c1j got the better of me.
22-06-2013, 19:57
footlongstrong

Re: Engine swap R5 turbo???

Quote:

Originally Posted by NRG

I considered a swap but the simplicity of the old pushrod c1j got the better of me.

i do agree mate but need more reliable power and dont like the feeling off im always watching the temp gauge, i know thats part of the fun of owning a R5 but i want to do some euro trips in it.

Tricky :confused:
22-06-2013, 21:29
Nottswoody

Re: Engine swap R5 turbo???

I'm going Volvo :)
22-06-2013, 21:31
footlongstrong

Re: Engine swap R5 turbo???

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nottswoody

I'm going Volvo :)

Hey :scratch:
22-06-2013, 21:48
Nottswoody

Re: Engine swap R5 turbo???

Quote:

Originally Posted by footlongstrong

Hey :scratch:

I agree iv done the c1j for three years now so I'm swooping it for the Volvo engine. More reliable is what I'm after the c1j is great but I need a change
22-06-2013, 22:11
Wallace

Re: Engine swap R5 turbo???

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Originally Posted by footlongstrong

Hey :scratch:

https://www.rtoc.org/boards/forumdisplay.php?f=84

:agree:
22-06-2013, 22:50
Brigsy

Re: Engine swap R5 turbo???

172/182 standard lump will be pretty boring mate, i wouldn't consider it unless your going to turbo it. Think of the extra weight up front.

Volvo turbo would be a better option & probably cheaper?

C1j can be reliable as if built properly though, dont forget that;)
23-06-2013, 10:56
Nottswoody

Re: Engine swap R5 turbo???

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Originally Posted by Wallace

https://www.rtoc.org/boards/forumdisplay.php?f=84

:agree:

Very interesting thanks for the link :)
23-06-2013, 11:32
footlongstrong

Re: Engine swap R5 turbo???

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brigsy

172/182 standard lump will be pretty boring mate, i wouldn't consider it unless your going to turbo it. Think of the extra weight up front.

Volvo turbo would be a better option & probably cheaper?

C1j can be reliable as if built properly though, dont forget that;)

How hard is the volvo turbo conversion to do? what volvo lump do people tend to go for?
23-06-2013, 11:36
casper

Re: Engine swap R5 turbo???

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Originally Posted by Nottswoody

Very interesting thanks for the link :)

In what way Paul?At a guess i would say you have seen the light.lol
23-06-2013, 11:37
footlongstrong

Re: Engine swap R5 turbo???

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penfold aka The Dealer

Yeh plenty of people have done engine swaps, loads more info if you do a search ;), my thread is on the project section of the boards, some pics of my engine there (sorry on my phone ATM and can't post the link up)..

Edit

Here's the link to my thread
https://rtoc.org/boards/showthread.php?t=24109

Cool build thread, really like the engine, what sort off figures did you manage to get out of it?
23-06-2013, 13:21
Penfold aka The Dealer

Re: Engine swap R5 turbo???

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Originally Posted by footlongstrong

Cool build thread, really like the engine, what sort off figures did you manage to get out of it?

Estimate around 160bhp, needs abit of a tweak on a rolling road, could see high 160's, with a decent cam, tweaking 180bhp+ is achievable...
23-06-2013, 18:21
Nottswoody

Re: Engine swap R5 turbo???

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Originally Posted by casper

In what way Paul?At a guess i would say you have seen the light.lol

Nope I will do my best to get it to the illusive 200 :)

I was looking to read up and the links very interesting I haven't seen anyone talking about the Volvo for a while (or I wasn't looking) but that's the way I'm headed. Our 2nd child is due in November so I will need a build to take up any spare time I have.. If any..
23-06-2013, 19:30
TNT ANDY

Re: Engine swap R5 turbo???

For what it's worth.

The C1J is as reliable as you make it - I have just done the 1200 Sangliers trip - no issues, majority of time between 80-90mph and it felt absolutely fantastic.

I have 200 bhp when wound up, but find 180 great for most occassion and I can easily get upto 100 in no time, much after that and I'm ****ting it just in case the rozzers are about. Sure, top end will be weak against the 300+bhp F lump brigade, but that will only start to show up 90mph+.

The reasons I won't change are:-

My C1j is cheap to repair should you need to.
My C1J is ludicrously fast upto 100mph.
I love fact that it is 1.4 and it goes like it does.
I love the noise it makes when on full blat.
Insurance is cheap.
Tax is cheap.
it is cheap.
It's as Renault intended. kind of.
I see 35-40mpg.

Reasons I might change to F lump:-

I hate the tappety noise my cam makes and the thought of a lovely set of cams and no push rods is tempting.
I know that at 250bhp it will be an animal and will not give me any gyp.
It's a very exciting development which will have many years to run.
If I want to go 150+mph - I'll need one of these.

Reasons I won't go F-Lump

Cost in all areas
Too much engine braking for my liking.
It would (for me) take the soul of the 5 away.
the need to do an expensive gearbox upgrade once you start getting the bhp up to silly levels, this falls into my 1st point really.

The C1j is a great engine, and when built and tuned right, it really is a force to be reckoned with which is reliable and won't let you down, even when stretched.

But I can see why other have gone the bigger route.
24-06-2013, 06:51
R5MJH

Re: Engine swap R5 turbo???

Quote:

Originally Posted by TNT ANDY

For what it's worth.

The C1J is as reliable as you make it - I have just done the 1200 Sangliers trip - no issues, majority of time between 80-90mph and it felt absolutely fantastic.

I have 200 bhp when wound up, but find 180 great for most occassion and I can easily get upto 100 in no time, much after that and I'm ****ting it just in case the rozzers are about. Sure, top end will be weak against the 300+bhp F lump brigade, but that will only start to show up 90mph+.

The reasons I won't change are:-

My C1j is cheap to repair should you need to.
My C1J is ludicrously fast upto 100mph.
I love fact that it is 1.4 and it goes like it does.
I love the noise it makes when on full blat.
Insurance is cheap.
Tax is cheap.
it is cheap.
It's as Renault intended. kind of.
I see 35-40mpg.

Reasons I might change to F lump:-

I hate the tappety noise my cam makes and the thought of a lovely set of cams and no push rods is tempting.
I know that at 250bhp it will be an animal and will not give me any gyp.
It's a very exciting development which will have many years to run.
If I want to go 150+mph - I'll need one of these.

Reasons I won't go F-Lump

Cost in all areas
Too much engine braking for my liking.
It would (for me) take the soul of the 5 away.
the need to do an expensive gearbox upgrade once you start getting the bhp up to silly levels, this falls into my 1st point really.

The C1j is a great engine, and when built and tuned right, it really is a force to be reckoned with which is reliable and won't let you down, even when stretched.

But I can see why other have gone the bigger route.

Totally agree with this, mine made the trip to Sangliers also but non EFI, didn't miss a beat.

Feel the C1J is the soul of the 5 :smokin:
24-06-2013, 06:57
robw

Re: Engine swap R5 turbo???

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Originally Posted by R5MJH

Totally agree with this, mine made the trip to Sangliers also but non EFI, didn't miss a beat.

Feel the C1J is the soul of the 5 :smokin:

:agree::agree::agree:

I can only accept non gt turbo's having engine conversions, gtt should always have the c1j imo.
24-06-2013, 19:51
jesus in the seat of a 5

Re: Engine swap R5 turbo???

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Originally Posted by robw

:agree::agree::agree:

I can only accept non gt turbo's having engine conversions, gtt should always have the c1j imo.

totally agree with rob and mick etc etc, c1j all the way, I drove mine nearly 2000miles on the French sangliers trip too and she hadn't been out of the garage for a year and half......:):agree:, when I efi`d the other car.... I had to keep the c1j....:D