Fly wheel for EFI - C1J

Just been measuring up and found 1 or 2 differences, they are very close, but I would need a spare engine and clutch etc to be sure, but it looks like it will go on a c1j with minimal fuss. This is a 200mm wheel off a Scenic. Here's what I know so far........

1. The centre bores are both the same size.
https://www.rtoc.org/files/Miscellane...y/DSCF3867.JPG

2. The overall thickness is the same.
https://www.rtoc.org/files/Miscellane...y/DSCF3866.JPG

3. The clutch cover plates are the same size and orientation.

4. The timing mark is in the same location.

5. The starter ring gear is the same.
https://www.rtoc.org/files/Miscellane...y/DSCF3866.JPG



What is different???

1. The crank end bolt pattern is ever so slightly different.
https://www.rtoc.org/files/Miscellane...y/DSCF3865.JPG

2. The width of the clutch spring recess is also smaller. The C1J has a 125mm wide recess and the Scenic one has 112mm wide recess but both of the same depth.

And that's all I know atm. I will try to find a spare clutch plate and cover as soon as I can.

Hi Andy

Good digging :cool:

The bolt pattern - one bolt hole is offset slightly on the C1J, so does the scenic one maybe not have the offset, or maybe its offset the other way ?

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Originally Posted by Scoff

Hi Andy

Good digging :cool:

The bolt pattern - one bolt hole is offset slightly on the C1J, so does the scenic one maybe not have the offset, or maybe its offset the other way ?

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That got me thinking - I assumed that the holes would all be evenly spaced, so when comparing 1 against the other I had the back faces of each touching. As it happens, if you turn them around they all line up.:D

Which only leaves the clutch recess I need to get me a clutch plate from somewhere. I'll ask around the local massive.

Andy

very good gen andy,is the pic up for the tdc sensor in the same place on the g/box?

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Originally Posted by TNT ANDY

That got me thinking - I assumed that the holes would all be evenly spaced, so when comparing 1 against the other I had the back faces of each touching. As it happens, if you turn them around they all line up.:D

Which only leaves the clutch recess I need to get me a clutch plate from somewhere. I'll ask around the local massive.

Andy

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i has millions andy! got about 2-3 used clutches u can have to play with

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Originally Posted by markey b

i has millions andy! got about 2-3 used clutches u can have to play with

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Nice one TNT Markey. I'll pop down next week if I can. BTW, the TNT stands for you blow stuff up a lot. ;)

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Originally Posted by michael tierney

very good gen andy,is the pic up for the tdc sensor in the same place on the g/box?

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Yes it's in the same place. But I don't know what sensor you would use. I. Would like to think you could use the standard 5 pick up.

That's great news, once the clutch is checked we need to try the 215mm next..... I wonder how different that 1.6 crank is to the c1j

Chris

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Originally Posted by TNT ANDY

Nice one TNT Markey. I'll pop down next week if I can. BTW, the TNT stands for you blow stuff up a lot. ;)

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i like to keep myself busy, and i also love to take my engine apart and replace expensive core components.......:laugh:

always worth it though :cartman:

Doesn't the 200mm Volvo 440/80 flywheel not fit, pretty sure it works with Efi as well ?
Although I expect the scenic one would be more readily available if it will fit..

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Originally Posted by 5teve L

Doesn't the 200mm Volvo 440/80 flywheel not fit, pretty sure it works with Efi as well ?
Although I expect the scenic one would be more readily available if it will fit..

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No, the bolt pattern is different to the c1j

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Originally Posted by Miller

No, the bolt pattern is different to the c1j

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Ah, I'm getting confused now with the F7P :homer: