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Me & a mate are looking into doing a few trackdays a year & i'm after a cheap car to prep for track. (he has a poobaru)
I have it down to a pug 205, GT Turbo, or something else small..
Anyone else got any ideas ??
Really fancy some of these trackdays now & need to pull my finger out or me & my Brother are gonna start chopping cars up Chop Shop style :laugh:
Can ya tell i'm bored now the Renaults gone :ashamed:
Id go for the 205 personally.
Was quite impressed with the AX at Mallory park, believe it had the GTI lump in it or GTI bottom end as ive seen that conversion done before, held nicely with the renault 5s. Turbo cars your always going to get the potential there with power but I still recon a NA car is going to be better on track. Depends on money but 205 gti with the Mi16 lump or renault 5 with a 16v F7R or F7P with megane bottom end. Both would be fun and great handling track cars.
106 gti or Rallye!
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Originally Posted by Ashy
Yeah, the wife had a 106 1.4 xsi, handled really well!!
You own/owned a gtt, you know them inside out, and you're asking on the rtoc for a good cheap track car.
Perhaps I'm missing the obvious point...
my thoughts exactly:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Mart
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Where's the idiot smiley when you need it but this will have to do:jerkoff:
plenty of cheap clio 16v's out there
BMW 325's stripped are a great fun tool, reliable too
as far as cheap, my 9 cost £300 notes and is a great fun car, handles well and looks like a nail....best of all worlds, LOL...
whatever you get, just enjoy it
that ax has high comp pistons in a super 1600 block, cams, itbs, standalone and full exhaust system. Get a gtt
renault 5 , ..Dear for parts, rust etc ..
205 , dont rust, cheapish on parts, but , the 1.98v engines are mostly on last legs, the mi16's are all shagged , unless fully rebuilt., but then your looking major cash , and still suffer from oil starvation on long right handers, gti6 lump loads of power, but bit of a bitch to fit.
I personally would go for a 106 gti with the tu5 engine, you will pay a bit more up front , but parts are cheap , due to there being millions of them, the engine all still got quite a lot of life in them, and the instant power on a standard lump with decat and manifold is pretty damn impressive.
If you go the turbo route, i would simply buy a decent scooby, again lots of parts, engines hard as nails, cheap to buy.
its all down to choice i guess, and where or not its gna be trailored , or have to be road legal would also effect a lot..
hope that helps
I really like the idea of a 106 rallye track car! They are great handling cars, TU engines are good sturdy stuff and with a bit of gas folwing breath really well!
Since when? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by djinuk
That's what I thought. And 205's do rust, surely?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mart
I have visions of the 'plasma vs lcd tv' thread all over again...
Lol..
mi m8 dan sez r5's blo 'ed gasgets evry 10 mile and dey iz all rotton init
:D
I'll have to look into that closely.....:laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mart
So good for all tracks apart from the 'ring then :DQuote:
Originally Posted by BriC
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ever thought off a nova with the 2ltr redtop? pick them up dirt cheap, parts cost nothing good handling, cant go wrong, that or a 106 they are pretty good
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Originally Posted by Ashy
saxo and 106's all will suffer from rear axle wear if they are above 40,000 miles...
if you stick with the 1.6 lump then you will have to change the cambelt ASAP...
Peugeots are made from galvanized steel ,with very little water traps, only real places for rust are,.. below rear seat, from when the rear 1/4 rubbers shrink and let water through, and also behind the rear lights, and inner wings on the front. So in comparison.. no they don't rust.. Bare in mind i have 2x 205s, and a renault 5 , and a fiesta mk3.. So i have the chance to actually compare them, .. so please less of the bull ****ty comments , and always trying to pick a argument with me. I was only offering my own personal advice.
just to add, yea pauls right, rear axels on saxos and pugs, are always going to be a prob, and to rebuild one , isnt the easiest of job nor the cheapest , as they dont have caps over the ends, .. letting loads of water in , and they rust solid,the bearings break, .. in certain case's (like mine) they then eat into the trailing arms..
What about the saxo VTR.. are they essentially the same? mines pretty strudy and cheap to run.. and you can throw it around quite a lot.. There's plenty around for about a grandQuote:
Originally Posted by Chris Hebden
What about a metro with the vvt engine if you can get one at a reasonable price.
How about a suzuki swift gti, fantastic unburstable engines and i know of one going VERY cheap! just needs some tlc :)
my grandad's got one - thats not the reason to put you off ;) but they rust and don't they have hydrofantasic suspension?Quote:
Originally Posted by djinuk
I've got it!!! a reasonably priced car...
the Suzuki Liana ..yours for £995 several careful celebrity owners :)
http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk...0&max_mileage=
Lol, some good idea's here... i've got a couple of cars to look at, mainly a cheap GTT (£400) & a 1.6 gti pug (£300) they both obviously have little probs, brakes on the GTT & suspension & driveshaft on the pug (engine not long rebuilt though)
The saxo's are good cars as well, a mate had one, handled like it was on rails.....was also considering a Mk2 golf...
if you go for the pug mate, stand and look at the back for any excessive camber, as that will be a worn rear beam, (around £200 for rebuild).
GTT all day long, mine was pretty reliable in the year i owned it. Nurburgring trip twice, Ipswich trackday, FCS where it owned loads of Clio 172s and a Megane 225 out on track. If you're going to dedicate it to a track only/2nd car then i wouldn't hesitate in buying 1.
Saying that, option 2 would be a Clio 172 phase 1. You can pick em up at a fairly good price now :)
steve dont get a 106, your as tall as me, and beleive me they are a nighmare and are made for people with tiny feet. get another 5. there are tons of parts flying around for cheap if not free. my car doesnt owe me that much and it goes well.
Someone's pushing the minimum wage at Maccy D's...Quote:
Originally Posted by djinuk
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Have to agree with the suggestion of a Saxo....We're on our 2nd VTR, 1st one being a standard 90bhp W reg, it was great fun to drive, the engine had a lot of low down grunt being the 8V
The 2nd one is a 52 reg 98bhp version, its lowered 25mm on an Eibach suspension kit, has an uprated back axle and rides on 16" OZ Ultra Leggeras (shod with Toyo Proxes T1R's
I can honestly say that i've not driven anything that handles as well as it does :cool:
You can pick them up cheap now...we paid £3.5k for ours in January, I've seen the same age for less than £2k :confused:
At the same time there's plenty of cheap VTS's about...935kg's, 120bhp and 0-60 in 7.5secs....be a riot on the track!!!
how about a toyota corolla gti-16? had one as a run about and thought it was pretty nippy.
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Originally Posted by Mart
For that price surely a Clio 172 would tick more boxes? A really nice all rounder for what they are stright off the production line, and more powerQuote:
Originally Posted by rogerreno
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Originally Posted by Adam L
you are indeed a comedian, I hope your mummys very proud.
mk1 clio rsi , only 1.8 8v but plenty of punch , cheaper than a valver (just look at egay ) ! Also if you get one go for the williams wide track set up as it will handle like a dream !
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Yeah, yeah, i miss my 5 :cry:
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I Picked up a cheap VTS recently with a knackered rear beam to use as a track car. Everyone told me they were difficult and expensive to fix but I managed to sort mine for about £70 and I found it fairly easy to do. Their great fun to drive and the 16v VTS are pretty quick little things too. :)
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This was the Beam that came off mine :eek:
The good side
http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/f...t/S7000871.jpg
The bad side
http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/f...t/S7000872.jpg
And the bits that fell out :smokin:
http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/f...t/S7000875.jpg