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ive just bought some sabelt clubman harnesses off ebay and theyve come with no fixing point for behind you, theres a loop there but not the metal hinge thing to bolt to the car?
can you get extra hinge things so i can keep the interior in the car and just bolt them to the rear belt point, or have i gota get a cage fitted?
thanx
car.crash
08-08-2009, 23:33
http://motors-parts.shop.ebay.co.uk/i.html?_nkw=harness+hook&_sacat=131090&_trksid=p3286.m270.l1313&_odkw=harness+3&_osacat=131090
you don't wanna fit harnesses without a cage,thats just asking for trouble
http://motors-parts.shop.ebay.co.uk/i.html?_nkw=harness+hook&_sacat=131090&_trksid=p3286.m270.l1313&_odkw=harness+3&_osacat=131090
thats the part im missin, this might sound stupid but how does my loop fit in that hook if its already made. so the loop sound be inside the long gap if that makes sence??
you don't wanna fit harnesses without a cage,thats just asking for trouble
can i ask why? i see lots of people doin it?:)
TNT ANDY
09-08-2009, 09:28
can i ask why? i see lots of people doin it?:)
Me too - why:confused:
TNT ANDY
09-08-2009, 09:53
Me too - why:confused:
Oh I cn think of one reason -
If I fit harnesses but not a roll cage I will be asking for trouble because -
....... New rozzer in local village gives me a 20 minuit lecture about not wearing seatbelts and how dangerous this is and how my wife will be non to impressed when I come home with a smashed in face etc, then soldiering on to write me a fixed notice penalty and producer as I noncheonantly allowd him to waste even more of his time as I waited until his Hitlerian style rant was over then pointed out the use of harnesses which I was currently wearing, which he did not see as I was wearing black.
Still being a cock he carried on to warn me ??? and told me he would keep an eye on me. HaHa Ha. Told me to go on my way to whit I replied no thanks I'll stay right here unless there are any other non existant reasons why I should not.
:cooter:
Apart from that I cant think of a good reason - but I'm regularly wrong in these matters.
The new Bill J
09-08-2009, 10:06
If you've got a harness "locking" you in an upright position, and you've got no cage, what happens if you roll the car? The odds are you're going to squash the roof down, straight onto your loaf, snap goes your neck! If you've got an ordinary seat belt, you can at least try and get your head down to dashboard level.
That's easier said than done though I'm sure, but it's the first thing that popped into my head.
TrixNFlix
09-08-2009, 10:33
If you've got a harness "locking" you in an upright position, and you've got no cage, what happens if you roll the car? The odds are you're going to squash the roof down, straight onto your loaf, snap goes your neck! If you've got an ordinary seat belt, you can at least try and get your head down to dashboard level.
That's easier said than done though I'm sure, but it's the first thing that popped into my head.
Too many what If scenarios going on for my liking! :crap: cue someone to post up the positives of wearing a harness over a seatbelt. :D
If you've got a harness "locking" you in an upright position, and you've got no cage, what happens if you roll the car? The odds are you're going to squash the roof down, straight onto your loaf, snap goes your neck! If you've got an ordinary seat belt, you can at least try and get your head down to dashboard level.
That's easier said than done though I'm sure, but it's the first thing that popped into my head.
if i did manage to roll my car without a cage in i still think a harness is safer than a normal belt,:)
http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr93/nathanjordan84/naysphone021.jpg
this is them, its missin a fixin point behind the head where it bolts to car so how do i afix to car?
there the clubman arnt they the wrap around style for the likes of the caterhams ect. easy to put a clip on though
car.crash
09-08-2009, 11:28
undo the loop from the adjuster, slide in the clip and thread the seatbelt back through the the plastic adjuster.
yey they are the clubman, the loop wont pull through cus its stiched, safty feature i think
http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr93/nathanjordan84/025.jpg
car.crash
09-08-2009, 11:39
put a boot brace in and loop them through that.
put a boot brace in and loop them through that.
sorry to sound so stupid but whats one of them??:confused:
Andrew Cooke
09-08-2009, 11:47
yey they are the clubman, the loop wont pull through cus its stiched, safty feature i think
http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr93/nathanjordan84/025.jpg
that's pretty flash, I wonder how you're supposed to loop it around your cage?
Chris Hebden
09-08-2009, 12:09
They look like you have to bulild the cage around the harness?!?
surley running them through a boot brace is a bad ideas. what happens if your rear ended and the bar gets bent how much slack will that create on the harnesses.
http://www.sabelt.co.uk/harness5.php
they show them with the fixing point
I have harnesses and a boot brace in place but mine are bolted to the floor where the original seat belts clips were bolted. Much safer IMO
If you've got a harness "locking" you in an upright position, and you've got no cage, what happens if you roll the car? The odds are you're going to squash the roof down, straight onto your loaf, snap goes your neck! If you've got an ordinary seat belt, you can at least try and get your head down to dashboard level.
That's easier said than done though I'm sure, but it's the first thing that popped into my head.
yes,exactly right.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KqfzlxftVk
this guy has harnesses,no roll cage.he is lucky and that is also a lot stronger car than a 5.
i was thinkin about using a boot brace if all else fails, where can you get them from cus i searched for them lastnight and could find any for sale anyware??
or what about gettin one of those harness clips mentioned earlier and cuttin a small slot in the middle so the loop on the harness could be thread onto it, with out it been weakened??
http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr93/nathanjordan84/026.jpg
Andrew Cooke
09-08-2009, 12:51
how about you stick them on ebay and get the right belts?
how about you stick them on ebay and get the right belts?
and also have a read of this:
http://www.tuningmag.net/dcentral.php?action=download&folder=tech_support&file=%23schroth_users_guide_racing_harness.pdf
do it properly mate,not worth cutting corners..
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