View Full Version : SBT Staffy Bull Terrier, needs new home
just posting this up on behalf of a friend.
around a year ago he bought a sbt from a pup. ive told him that was his first mistake as he never really had time to teach/look after a dog:sad2:.
so after a year of owning him, he finally admitted defeat and sold him on to a local couple of were after a dog. he told the couple if they could not handle him that he will have him back.
today the couple have contacted him and yes you guessed it! they cant handle him:(
hes a lovely dog, a dark brindle/black colour, i think hes about 19months old. i can only describe him as a solid little tank:).
the problem is not the dogs fault but my friends due to him not having the time to train/teach the dog:disagree:
the dog is very over excited and has a tendancy to bite. ive been told he also gives a snarl when shouted at.! basically hes never been put right if you get me. he thinks hes the alpha dog. again,not the dogs fault.
he needs someone with some good knowledge with dogs and to teach him right from wrong.
i know how to train staffys as ive had mine for just under 7 yrs now but unfortunately can not take on another dog with mine being this age(hes getting a grumpy old bogger):).
so to cap off,
his names jack.
brindle/black in colour.
about 19months old.
he loves people but has the above issues that need sorting out.
the couple want £100. for him.
such a shame, i hate the idea of a dog being passed around:(
Sorry Raj but the idea that your mate wants money for a Staffy that has a tendency to bite is ridiculous. If he respected the dog at all he'd be giving it away to the right home.
Poor little bugger. I don't like em at all but as you say and as seen on Dog Borstal it's not the dog's fault.
Sorry Raj but the idea that your mate wants money for a Staffy that has a tendency to bite is ridiculous. If he respected the dog at all he'd be giving it away to the right home.
Poor little bugger. I don't like em at all but as you say and as seen on Dog Borstal it's not the dog's fault.
spot on trev :agree:
some people tend to see pets like a gadget they can sell on
once they had their fun and get another .
raj`s mate asking money for the dog shows how much he cares really :disagree:
when i used to take my dog to the blue cross (putney) all the owners off staffs had them for image, and guess what id say in that animal hospital 8/10 dogs were staffs owned by people who didnt have a clue.
I apoligise for the owners of these dogs that genuinly want and love them this is not directed at you.
It sickens me to see animals as fashion items or for fighting as commonly staffs are used for around here. Also giving certain dogs bad names. this guy needs to give it to a home, nay actualy be botherd to go to a training school with it.
Mudslinger
07-06-2009, 12:31
the fact the dog is biting ,is the most serious thing , its need to be reabiltated before it goes near anyones home to be honest ,imagine it bites a child :sad2: and to echo the others i cant believe hes wanting money for it , poor dog .
regardless to training its a dogs natural instinct to bite snarl if threatened and will always be in the dogs blood dispite how much training you give it imo its all just a gamble as to wether your dog shows there true colours.
Purple_rob
07-06-2009, 12:51
I have two staffs and they do not show any of these behaviours.
It's all down to the owners!!!!!!!!!!!.
I have a girl and she is very excitable, I use a bottle of stones to train her. If used right and not over used this is REALLY effective. They will stop what they are doing in there tracks.
Not much help to the problem but I believe a dog is for life. Learn the skills and develop it. :mad:
regardless to training its a dogs natural instinct to bite snarl if threatened and will always be in the dogs blood dispite how much training you give it imo its all just a gamble as to wether your dog shows there true colours.
Maybe, but a dog that is trained is alot less likely to bite or snarl at people. down to the owners to train and work with their dog correctly... not let it think its pack leader
Purple_rob
07-06-2009, 13:06
Maybe, but a dog that is trained is alot less likely to bite or snarl at people. down to the owners to train and work with their dog correctly... not let it think its pack leader
I agree, "maybe". Although, it just like a human, back them in a corner and they will cower or retaliate.
the main thing with a bull terrier is ,when they bite they wont let go
without giving a good bit of damage due to their strong built jaw .
i walk my dog in the park everyday and come across all sorts of dogs
including staffs , my dog is a tiny little cross thing and i must admit when
i see a staff or similar heavy jaw mofo coming towards me ,i always put the
lead on and get ready to lift my dog up in the air .
better ignorant than sorry i guess .
the main thing with a bull terrier is ,when they bite they wont let go
without giving a good bit of damage due to their strong built jaw .
i walk my dog in the park everyday and come across all sorts of dogs
including staffs , my dog is a tiny little cross thing and i must admit when
i see a staff or similar heavy jaw mofo coming towards me ,i always put the
lead on and get ready to lift my dog up in the air .
better ignorant than sorry i guess .
''lock jaw''
I agree Totally with the comments made, i too am a dog lover. i hate to hear/see this type of thing:(
ill try and persuade him to "Give" the dog up. he may do that anyway as he's going to have to buy it back off the couple who he sold it to:rolleyes:
im pretty p1ssed off with him over this as would any true dog lover!
feel a cnut for not being able to take the dog myself but i cant let my emotions get in the way, plus it wouldnt be ideal for My dog.
dog arnt fashion accessories:mad:
ban people. not breeds!
Anyone without a job should be banned from owning a dog. There should also be a dog Tax bit like Car tax.
There that should sort all the dog problems out.
Anyone without a job should be banned from owning a dog. There should also be a dog Tax bit like Car tax.
There that should sort all the dog problems out.
thats actually not a bad idea:agree:
R5GTTRaider
07-06-2009, 15:02
Anyone without a job should be banned from owning a dog. There should also be a dog Tax bit like Car tax.
There that should sort all the dog problems out.
so if some one loses there job due to redundency or for a unforseen amtter, does that mean they would also have to sell the dog. i lost my job in january and wouldnt ever sell me dog even tho hes worth money. best dog i know, and has taken alot of time to make him the way he is
Anyone without a job should be banned from owning a dog. There should also be a dog Tax bit like Car tax.
There that should sort all the dog problems out.
partially disagree with that mate .
most genuine dog/animal lovers get them from kennels/rescue centers
where they have to pay for them anyway,plus hefty vet bills are bonus .
putting an extra tax would be punishing those people not helping !!
on the other hand i agree there should be a control mechanism over who
can get a dog ,but unfortunately people are not melons ,you cant
just sniff the bottom to see if they are good or not .
by the way dogs dont care if you are fat ,ugly ,poor etc . they will still
love you back as long as you give them the good old tlc .
thats actually not a bad idea:agree:
regarding the tax if that was introduced that could pay for someone to pick up the dog **** left lazy owners
Is there an age limit to owning a dog?
Do people swap dogs for jewlery?
Do dogs get bred for profit?
I suggest dogs, of any type, should require a licence again. christ i cant go fishing without a permit.
I mean dont get me wrong, Im a cat person personally, I just dont see Cats taking babies on roof tops and tearing them limb from limb. Or mauling toddlers when thier pissed up parents leave jnr with thier ****ed up grandmas.
I will solve this nations problems by A) vesectimising all boys at 13. B) having a selection process to get a license to allow couples to have children. ie If you hav no job your not allowed kids. C) Anyone without employment after any 6 month period does mandatory 6month spell community service or tour of afganistan (even if in the kitchens)
:laugh:
So young yet so Daily Mail ....
:laugh:
So young yet so Daily Mail ....
Mate, best thing this country ever did was fire that exorcet missile.
You weren't even born then were you ? :scratch:
You weren't even born then were you ? :scratch:
Yes I was, im 30 in like 3 weeks. :crap:
I vote Kenobi for Prime Minister! :D :agree:
Nah, beneath him .I'd aim higher than that ...
Popeonekenobi
Hahahaha ile be your secretary of defence.... press the botton press it press it
partially disagree with that mate .
most genuine dog/animal lovers get them from kennels/rescue centers
where they have to pay for them anyway,plus hefty vet bills are bonus .
putting an extra tax would be punishing those people not helping !!.
personally i think anyone with a dog who doesnt have pet insurance is an absolute fool:disagree: ive saved god knows how much money from being with petplan insurance.
I vote Kenobi for Prime Minister! :D :agree:
Thanks for your support.
R5GTTRaider
08-06-2009, 10:06
personally i think anyone with a dog who doesnt have pet insurance is an absolute fool:disagree: ive saved god knows how much money from being with petplan insurance.
i do, even tho i dont have a job! but i have still have money from my employment, just gotta spend it on things needed, not wanted!
Bruce - BHPerformance
08-06-2009, 10:19
My partner has a 7 year old Staffy with cancer. Unfortunately she couldn't afford pet insurance and now we have a bill of about £1200 to pay out. We will find the money as he is a lovely dog. A little excitable, nibbles a bit, but always stops when told. :)
Pet insurance is the way ahead if you want to keep your pet alive.
Pete@Backyard Racing
08-06-2009, 15:57
Ive got a 4 year old staff dog, ive had him for 2 years, i got him 4 free inc bed bowls lead collar food toys pedigree papers the lot. My previous dog was a bull terrier so im pretty experienced in this type ov breed. Im a big fan and activist of cesar millans new school methods.
I've also been doing voulinteer work at my local homless dog shelter for the last 6 months (working with various breeds) where u can adopt a pedigree dog fully vacinated chipped and neutered for £50-£150
So raj imo, u need 2 convince your m8 to had the dog over to the local dog shelter where they can work on his faults and vet any would be owners with background and home checks, as it sounds like he'd take the first hand full ov cash he saw regardless ov the dogs future welfare :)
personally i think anyone with a dog who doesnt have pet insurance is an absolute fool:disagree: ive saved god knows how much money from being with petplan insurance.
pet insurance does only cover you over a certain amount , under that , have to
pay myself . she had a bad belly twice last month ,cost me 40-50 odd quid each time.
worth every penny for my girl though :agree: :)
Tiny Tim
08-06-2009, 16:06
Which is all well and good untill they re-write the individual T&C's to exclude pre-existing illnesses. A-holes :mad:
bye_all_c_ya
08-06-2009, 17:20
i have 2 staffs soft as snow the one id go to say is stupid , both mixs with kids and other dogs
bottom line with dog are they are like kids, bring them up correct they dont show you up.
do it wrong and you have a brat of a kid and also a dog
both end up behind bars lol
Which is all well and good untill they re-write the individual T&C's to exclude pre-existing illnesses. A-holes :mad:
NOT with petplan, hence the reason ive only ever used them.:)
i only have to pay an excess of £80.
thing is, if you love your pet, money isnt an issue. it isnt with me anyway!
So raj imo, u need 2 convince your m8 to had the dog over to the local dog shelter where they can work on his faults and vet any would be owners with background and home checks, as it sounds like he'd take the first hand full ov cash he saw regardless ov the dogs future welfare :)
i think i may have touched a nerve:)... i spoke to the couple that currently have jack(the staffy) and they said they'll make more of an effort, they've also decided to get him chopped:crap:
i also told them i'll help them when i can.:agree:
at the end of the day jacks still a pup and mine is bigger older wiser, im sure bentley and i can put jack in his place. at the moment jack thinks hes the alpha, time with bentley will soon prove him wrong.
there going to be introduced tommorow!
Duncan Grier
08-06-2009, 20:07
I had Cain (ped Staff) for 12.5years and was the best dog EVER! So well behaved and did great leaning in the pax seat during cornering :D was easy to train and a true friend. Miss him loads nearly 3 years on but not ready to replace and dogs when looked after correctly take a lot of looking after (but worth every second)
I do hate that the dogs (and others breeds) are used to make people (think) they look hard etc - but then I hate muppets that spit kids out and never worked a day in their lives, or people who don't have licences / insurance for cars. Time for the mass snip if you have 2 children and dont work! Remove ALL nice things out of prisons, and generally remove the crap out of this country - then the roads will be clear and I can enjoy my car :D
32 years old and no tolerance left for.......well idiots
Raj not aimed at you sir ;) just a general rant - bad day at work lol
Chemical castration is the way forward :rolleyes: too many kids AND unlicenced cars :dearme:
It's all getting very Right wing on here of late ...
Duncan Grier
08-06-2009, 20:23
Jerry Jerry :coffee:
Chemical castration is the way forward :rolleyes: too many kids AND unlicenced cars :dearme:
It's all getting very Right wing on here of late ...
Right wing is the correct wing. My daughters go to Catholic school so i doubt they will be taught that if Peter is in love with Brian then thats ok.
I would go mental if they came home and thier Liberal namby pamby teacher said it was ok to be queer if they wanted.
I would go mental if they came home and thier Liberal namby pamby teacher said it was ok to be queer if they wanted.
I take it its not ok then in this country?
Yes.....Catholics ...well known for their tolerance and understanding :laugh::laugh: ad infinitum
Duncan Grier
08-06-2009, 20:36
Disagree with you on that one Kenobi, but then again look how much trouble religion causes :crap: I believe in myself........:D:D:D
Everyone should be able to be happy regardless of sex, colour etc. Just stop been idiots and sponging of the system lol
Disagree with you on that one Kenobi, but then again look how much trouble religion causes :crap: I believe in myself........:D:D:D
Everyone should be able to be happy regardless of sex, colour etc. Just stop been idiots and sponging of the system lol
No man you mis-understand. Its jolly ok to be Homosexual, its not ok to teach that to children.
Teachers shouldn't be teaching that, but their parents should be
How come? The children will learn it from somewhere, what if they turn out to be gay themselves and dont have a clue how to go about it, become alienated and withdrawn from society. Then you'll have big problems
I was just making a point to Kenobi that although he might not want teachers to tell them these things, somebody has to. Turns out that's not what he meant anyway by the looks of it.
Teachers shouldn't be teaching that, but their parents should be
Not a topic for school. In all honesty, its the birds and the bees, not a load of Jolly bees.
Its not something that should be taught at all. Yeah its ok, but if you have a lad, be honest here, do you teach him that its ok?? Or do you secretly pray to God he lives a normal non stigma related life and gives you grand children.
I personally have absolutley nothing against homosexuals, I have family and friends that are homosexuals. I simply refuse to accept that its cool and normal.
Raj - I am glad to hear the current owners are going to make more of an effort.
It upsets me that a lot of people do not think properly before taking on ownership of a dog, breeds like staffies are often forced to breed purely because there is a demand for them from people buying them as a fashion accessory. The rescue centres are overun with Staffies and similar dogs, i found this when i tried to find a rescue centre to take in one i had found roaming the streets, they all had no room at the inn, fortunately i found the owners.
The message needs to be got across to people, dogs can be hard work and if they cannot take responsibility or give enough time for training and exercise then they really shouldnt be owning one. I would urge anyone considering buying a puppy to really think about it first.
Raj - I am glad to hear the current owners are going to make more of an effort.
It upsets me that a lot of people do not think properly before taking on ownership of a dog, breeds like staffies are often forced to breed purely because there is a demand for them from people buying them as a fashion accessory. The rescue centres are overun with Staffies and similar dogs, i found this when i tried to find a rescue centre to take in one i had found roaming the streets, they all had no room at the inn, fortunately i found the owners.
The message needs to be got across to people, dogs can be hard work and if they cannot take responsibility or give enough time for training and exercise then they really shouldnt be owning one. I would urge anyone considering buying a puppy to really think about it first.
absolutely rach:agree:
you'll find that more or less all stocky built breeds suffer the same fate.:( it makes my blood boil:mad:
£100 is alot for a casserole.... :cylon:
Pete@Backyard Racing
10-06-2009, 22:40
i think i may have touched a nerve:)... i spoke to the couple that currently have jack(the staffy) and they said they'll make more of an effort, they've also decided to get him chopped:crap:
i also told them i'll help them when i can.:agree:
at the end of the day jacks still a pup and mine is bigger older wiser, im sure bentley and i can put jack in his place. at the moment jack thinks hes the alpha, time with bentley will soon prove him wrong.
there going to be introduced tommorow!
no nerves touched m8 im totally with you on this one, just wanted to express my experienced opinion.
ps how did bentley and jack get along ? hopefully all gud.:)
no nerves touched m8 im totally with you on this one, just wanted to express my experienced opinion.
ps how did bentley and jack get along ? hopefully all gud.:)
ok, so on one side youve got bentley whos pretty chilled out and gets mildly excitable.
on the other side you have jack, the yoof, the lairy nutter.
so....what happened?
well in neutral territory i made them see each other at a distance first.
the closer they got the more jack got excited and the more bentley calmly stuck his chest out,pointing up his ears with his eyes locked onto jack like he was some heat seaking missile.
so there up close, and bentleys just stood there while jack looks like hes been some friggin ecstasy:crap: and give for a whiff of bentleys juicy plumbs:D bentley does seem to like that so turns around to face him head on........... were all hell breaks loose!! jack went for bentley but he simply didnt have a chance in hell... bentley locked onto jacks throat at which point i immediately jumped in before all serious damaged was cause, i basically jumped in and took over bentleys postition by using my hand/fingers as a throat bite. jack almost immediatly became submissive which is a result in itself as for one hes never met a dominent force and two to be dominated and then submit.
so the rehabs begun nicely:agree:
ive also told the couple to take jack for a walk first thing and basically knacker him out and only they teach him as he'll be in a more submissive state of mind.
will take time, but its a start.
Pete@Backyard Racing
11-06-2009, 21:28
ok, so on one side youve got bentley whos pretty chilled out and gets mildly excitable.
on the other side you have jack, the yoof, the lairy nutter.
so....what happened?
well in neutral territory i made them see each other at a distance first.
the closer they got the more jack got excited and the more bentley calmly stuck his chest out,pointing up his ears with his eyes locked onto jack like he was some heat seaking missile.
so there up close, and bentleys just stood there while jack looks like hes been some friggin ecstasy:crap: and give for a whiff of bentleys juicy plumbs:D bentley does seem to like that so turns around to face him head on........... were all hell breaks loose!! jack went for bentley but he simply didnt have a chance in hell... bentley locked onto jacks throat at which point i immediately jumped in before all serious damaged was cause, i basically jumped in and took over bentleys postition by using my hand/fingers as a throat bite. jack almost immediatly became submissive which is a result in itself as for one hes never met a dominent force and two to be dominated and then submit.
so the rehabs begun nicely:agree:
ive also told the couple to take jack for a walk first thing and basically knacker him out and only they teach him as he'll be in a more submissive state of mind.
will take time, but its a start.
Im no mistic meg but i saw that coming a mile off m8.
Thats y ceasr millans a millionaire and were not.
Hope theres no damage to the dogs.
Your very lucky the last propa fight i tried breaking up one dog bit my had and wouldnt let go and kept biting down, he only let go when i choked the otha dog with my good hand to let go of him. i had 2 go a&e ,it was nasty m8 still got the scars my hand it was black n blue 4 about a month.
**** happens live n learn :)
Im no mistic meg but i saw that coming a mile off m8.
Thats y ceasr millans a millionaire and were not.
Hope theres no damage to the dogs.
Your very lucky the last propa fight i tried breaking up one dog bit my had and wouldnt let go and kept biting down, he only let go when i choked the otha dog with my good hand to let go of him. i had 2 go a&e ,it was nasty m8 still got the scars my hand it was black n blue 4 about a month.
**** happens live n learn :)
you could say i predicted it would happen the way it did too, hence why i wanted to do it:agree: both dogs are fine and no damage was done except to jack ego:)
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