Break from the norm [Archive]

Winston

16-09-2008, 22:17

New poster! (less than 10 posts)

Well its about time I did a project thread... so here goes

After owning a stupid amount of 16V, Hybrids and Williams thought it was time for a change.... I was due to purchase a tungy grey F7P 1.8 16V powered R5 but the sale fell through so the hunt continued. I spotted this White 5GTT on ebay, it had a good engine spec and looked clean in the pics, so I rang the guy up and agreed a price of £1200 and got a lift down to London the next day and drove it home to manchester.It was tiny bit ruff around the edges (what car i have isn't tho lol), but it had only done 75k and just had a full engine rebuild, a few niggles to fix but I was over happy with it.

The spec
New crank shaft
New pistons and liners
New big and small ends
New timing chain and timing chain tensioner
Ported head
New valves, New valve stems and seals
New group A head gasket
New group A clutch
New uprated fuel pump and fuel filter
Ngk spark plugs
K-tec distributor cap and rotor arm
New TDC sensor
K-tec ignition leads
Baileys dump valve
Some blue Samco hoses
S/S Scorpion exhaust
S/S Braided oil hoses

So first port of call was Partly stripping the interior & some pics... so quick phone call to jordan and......

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/IMG_0017.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/IMG_0011.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/IMG_0021.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/IMG_0019.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/IMG_0026.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/IMG_0027.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/IMG_0031.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/IMG_0032.jpg

Winston

16-09-2008, 22:18

New poster! (less than 10 posts)

After a few weeks I took the 5 off the road for a week... (was waiting on parts and spent 4 hours removing the wishbone, don't ask lol) I fitted a new wishbone, ARB bushes, Koni adjustables

New bits

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT3580.jpg

Few random Winston touches
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT3564.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT3569.jpg

Then I tryed on my new rims... the stance and fit was bang on
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT3582.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT3570.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT3577.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT3572.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT3562.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT3552.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT3555.jpg

Winston

16-09-2008, 22:20

New poster! (less than 10 posts)

In the end I had the 185/55/13 tyres off the standard speedlines fitted to. It was hard work get them on, My mate vinny at ATS had his doubt we could do it, in the end it took three of us and sh*t load of seat covers lol

Seeing as the camera is sh*te, guess what i did.... aye ... Jord "wanna take some pics" lol

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n113/f0xy_2006/26th%20February%2008%20-%20R5s%20New%20Shoes/IMG_0035.jpg

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n113/f0xy_2006/26th%20February%2008%20-%20R5s%20New%20Shoes/IMG_0041.jpg

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n113/f0xy_2006/26th%20February%2008%20-%20R5s%20New%20Shoes/IMG_0044.jpg

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n113/f0xy_2006/26th%20February%2008%20-%20R5s%20New%20Shoes/IMG_0046.jpg

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n113/f0xy_2006/26th%20February%2008%20-%20R5s%20New%20Shoes/IMG_0051.jpg

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n113/f0xy_2006/26th%20February%2008%20-%20R5s%20New%20Shoes/IMG_0055.jpg

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n113/f0xy_2006/26th%20February%2008%20-%20R5s%20New%20Shoes/IMG_0065.jpg

Winston

16-09-2008, 22:21

New poster! (less than 10 posts)

More stickers lol.... http://www.slook.co.uk/[/url ([URL]http://www.slook.co.uk/)]

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n113/f0xy_2006/14th%20March%2008%20-%20Misc%20Pics/IMG_0094.jpg

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n113/f0xy_2006/14th%20March%2008%20-%20Misc%20Pics/IMG_0050.jpg

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n113/f0xy_2006/14th%20March%2008%20-%20Misc%20Pics/IMG_0047.jpg

I fitted some cheapo pressed plates from ebay

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT3764.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT3766.jpg

I also stripped it out more and took all the sound deadening out..... pulls much better now :P

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT3768.jpg

Winston

16-09-2008, 22:22

New poster! (less than 10 posts)

Then it happend it let me down LOL.... I hit some traffic on the M6 just after junction 20a.... revs started to drop while sat in traffic... rev it abit... stalled... started... stalled.. start start start start.... get out and push.... then the starter did naff all... Ring AA- they failed

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/Image002.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/Image005.jpg

I treated it to some orange indicators for abit of retro-ness and as a get better soon present lol

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT3934.jpg

I fitted a new starter and put new contectors on the fuel pump (thats the short verson lol)

So it was fixed and back on the road... best ring Jord for some pics lol

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5GTT%20F0xy%20Shoot/IMG_0099.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5GTT%20F0xy%20Shoot/IMG_0080.jpg

Winston

16-09-2008, 22:23

New poster! (less than 10 posts)

Having the FMIC fitted meant i was able to raise the boost to 1bar with no problems, so i finally got round to getting my Rob@BYR to Fit a bleed valve and tidy up my pipe work, getting it set up on his wide band on weekend to get it running spot on... 1bar ist gud jaa!!!

Do not touch lol

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT4020.jpg

While setting the bleed valve up i did this pulling up a kurb... Gutted TBH
Will have to be yeeehaa'd for now lol

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT4018.jpg

Winston

16-09-2008, 22:24

New poster! (less than 10 posts)

JR con filter rated to 300bhp... from Pete@BYR

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT4022.jpg

Sidey

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT4027.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT4028.jpg

On the way to fit my sidey the Turbo gave up... doh... didn't last long lol... but fitted
the sidey anyway

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT4031.jpg

Winston

16-09-2008, 22:25

New poster! (less than 10 posts)

Well I took the dead turbo off on wednesday... The main shaft had playin in all directions and the exhaust housing is rather cracked, so clear to see why it was no longer making any boost lol

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT4070.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT4072.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT4074.jpg

Ive give the engine bay clean and its all ready for its new turbo and exhaust which fingers crossed will be here for weekend, Some pics from the raider it was removed from

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/Photo-0051.jpg

Winston

16-09-2008, 22:27

Well there was still no sign of the new turbo and exhaust...

Took the sidey off friday evening and its gone to a new home

Ive took some pics of the cleaning if been doing (Just for Gaz lol)... so much room in the engine bay compared to valvers and Williams.. it's not come up to bad for an old shabby bay lol

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT4087.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT4091.jpg

Winston

16-09-2008, 22:28

T25 Turbo fitted

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/Image022.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/Image023.jpg

Exhaust fitted

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/Image026.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/Image029.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/Image027.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/Image025.jpg

Piped up and ready to go :)

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/Image035.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/Image036.jpg

Quick idle vid
http://s64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76b...nt=Video001.flv

Winston

16-09-2008, 22:29

I put a heat sheild on the exhaust

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT4152.jpg

This turned up today... just need some side mounts to fit it

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT4160.jpg

and for comedy value

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT4157.jpg

Winston

16-09-2008, 22:30

Week before FCS.. I removed the sunroof... needs finishing

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT4199.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT4191.jpg

Still only on 2... but no other wheel will do

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT4203.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT4197.jpg

Winston

16-09-2008, 22:31

Final FCS mod... I painted my floor
Base coat

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT4206.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT4205.jpg

Stencils

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT4208.jpg

Primer grey

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT4209.jpg

Black

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT4211.jpg

Thought f**k it and started on the front

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT4212.jpg

Finished bar the clear coat

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT4216.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT4217.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT4218.jpg

Winston

16-09-2008, 22:32

Few FCS pic (cheers Jord lol)

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5GTT%20F0xy%20Shoot/IMG_0211.jpg

One of the new stickers

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT4305.jpg

Intercooler shiftted ready for ghetto bumper removel lol

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT4297.jpg

Pretty Tyres and steels painted black

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT4291.jpg

My Mk1 Golf flag mirror... does the job... just

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT4284.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT4283.jpg

Winston

16-09-2008, 22:36

With MOT time coming up... and Frontie being a total fail... sidey time
Enlarged cross pipe

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT4369.jpg

Sidey ready to go on

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT4438.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT4437.jpg

Because my T25 was an odd ball i had to have a custom elbow made up..... best £30 ive spent, more than happy with the results and its a perfect fit without even having my car

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT4452.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT4445.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT4447.jpg

and the newly modded K-Tec large bore crossover

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT4449.jpg

Stealth sidey

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT4453.jpg

Front bumper... still needs paint, but holding off till i paint the hole car

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT4440.jpg

Winston

16-09-2008, 22:36

Then Turbo number 2 gave up a week later lol.... so i went to running it 1.4 N/A

This sums up how I feel about the 5 lol

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT4501.jpg

So i had a play with rimage to cheer myself up lol.... (check the crime numberage, GHETTO lol)

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT4502.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT4500.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT4496.jpg

Winston

16-09-2008, 22:37

I sold most the good bits off

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20GTT/PICT4548.jpg

I pick up a Williams 3, back to what i know lol

... so the project continues... long live the 5iams :wink:

Winston

16-09-2008, 22:39

The WIlliams is now ready for scrap, then the 5 can come home for its body work prep

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/illiams%203/PICT4594.jpg

So its time to start collecting goodies, cleaning and painting
The Power house

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5iams/PICT4599.jpg

GTX bracket for engine mount... cheers Fatty :)

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5iams/PICT4601.jpg

I went to King strombas and picked up the following... Cheers Rob :)
Devil Mainfold

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5iams/PICT4602.jpg

Alloy Fuel sell

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5iams/PICT4608.jpg

Low mileage Willy shocks

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5iams/PICT4609.jpg

I found these on ebay, after asking a few opinions... I purchased them

Mattig DTM Mirrors

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5iams/PICT4600.jpg

More goodies coming soon :wub: :ph34r:

Winston

16-09-2008, 22:40

More Goodies :)

Some pipes ;)

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5iams/PICT4610.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5iams/PICT4612.jpg

Stored in the 5 out the way

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5iams/PICT4616.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5iams/PICT4613.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5iams/PICT4615.jpg

Seat back in

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5iams/PICT4626.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5iams/PICT4617.jpg

5 and my current ride lol

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5iams/PICT4620.jpg

Winston

16-09-2008, 22:41

Extra picture flexing the tempo rimage... not sure what wheels to run on it when its finished tho?

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5iams/PICT4628.jpg

Cleaned up the starter today and given it a NASA spec heat sheild lol

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5iams/PICT4630.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5iams/PICT4631.jpg

Winston

16-09-2008, 22:42

What was left of the Williams lol

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/illiams%203/PICT4638.jpg

Sparkie

16-09-2008, 22:43

did you get the cage rom a guy in brum? ;)

Winston

16-09-2008, 22:44

Thats me about up to date... sorry if it doesn't make 100% sense its been cut and paste from another thread

Im still waiting to bring the 5 home from my nans to get stuck in, but ive not had alot of time with work etc and a new Clio williams hybrid bargain which has kind of side tracked me a little but im back on track and up dates will be coming soon

Thanks for reading :)

Scoff

16-09-2008, 22:53

rust protection aint your thing then :)

Winston

16-09-2008, 23:57

The cage was from RSlayer.... he has charming white 5 and yes hes from Brum, Top bloke

Going to tidy up the shell before the Williams bits go on... had my fun with it, want it to last now:)

dave j gtt

17-09-2008, 03:54

New poster! (less than 10 posts)

cheers again for the sid exit ;)

think the sidey sounds sweey mate have fitted to my car and at 15psi manifold boost it really lets rip :scared: hope the police dont give me any crap any time soon :rolleyes:

matty j

17-09-2008, 12:48

looks awsome dude do love your 5

Sparkie

17-09-2008, 19:25

the cage used to be my ex's, i painted it black originally, hence the front bars colour.:laugh:

nice to see its gone to a good home:agree:

THE MASTER

25-09-2008, 23:29

ERRRRRMMMMMM .. no comment

Ross99

25-09-2008, 23:55

top project cant wait to get stuck back into mine on tuesday.

Beardo

07-10-2008, 11:49

Winston , roughly how long did it takeyou to prep the inside of your car for paint or did you not bother :)

Winston

07-10-2008, 14:29

Sparkie... Do you know what cage is it?... I love how the do bars sit flush with the sill:smokin:

Beardo.. It took me about an afternoon to prep the floor for paint... didn't go all out as it was just a quick fix till it gets fully painted

Updates on there way:)

Winston

07-10-2008, 14:33

Guess whos back home :)

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5iams/IMG_1788.jpg

Cleaned and stripped the engine some more.. so its closer to being painted

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5iams/IMG_1769.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5iams/IMG_1766.jpg

The old C1J went to its new home... ive been cleaning the bay but got to dark for pics

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5iams/IMG_1820.jpg

Fibre glass bonnet trail fitted

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5iams/IMG_1818.jpg

And ive got to use the axel off my hybrid now as pikies came and stole my Williams one out my back garden :(

Winston

07-10-2008, 14:36

Subframe.. semi clean and rust free :D

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5iams/IMG_2041.jpg

Front Williams hubs with good bearings... they need some more hammerite since they lived on the 5.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5iams/IMG_2032.jpg

The difference in track.... doesn't really look like much in these pictures

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5iams/IMG_2029.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5iams/IMG_2026.jpg

The 5 top mounts to fit to the williams shocks... need blasting and painting

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5iams/IMG_2042.jpg

The bay has some rust that needs attending too

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5iams/IMG_2037.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5iams/IMG_2036.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5iams/IMG_2035.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5iams/IMG_2034.jpg

Winston

07-10-2008, 14:37

Well ive not had the most productive weekend :( ... Ive had one on me all day which nearly resulted in the 5's subframe being thrown through its windscreen lol

The Wishbones

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5iams/IMG_2065.jpg

The ARB bushes

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5iams/IMG_2066.jpg

Springs

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5iams/IMG_2069.jpg

Anti roll bar semi de-rusted & painted

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5iams/IMG_2047.jpg

Winston

07-10-2008, 14:38

The first problem i ran into was the 19 16v wishbones fouled on the subframe so some trimming was in order with the angle grinder and a file... Im now going to give the subframe a lick of paint

Before

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5iams/IMG_2071.jpg

After

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5iams/IMG_2074.jpg

The next problem was the inner ARB brackets need some modding to fit the 5 subframe... Its all fun and games lol

Rob@Backyardracing

08-10-2008, 07:48

Crazyyyyyyyyyyyy Moooooooo Foooooooooo :) :agree:

Winston

08-10-2008, 11:28

Before my evening meal this last night... I thought i would get the dash and loom out the 5, only part thats been a pain to remove so far (i should have busted out the ghaynes lol, but its out)

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5iams/IMG_2077.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5iams/IMG_2078.jpg

I found some more rust this time a hole :(

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5iams/IMG_2080.jpg

BriC

08-10-2008, 11:36

Ouch at that rust :cry:

Let me know if you want a nice bulkhead shaped section from this Campus I'm breaking.

Andrew Cooke

08-10-2008, 22:54

the inner wishbone bushes should fit with a later GTT subframe, otherwise is the Williams subframe OK?

Scoff

08-10-2008, 23:09

something I discovered when I was measuring up for a wide track conversion for someone:

the williams (or R19 16v) wishbones will put the hub off-center in the R5 arch. I forget exactly but the wheel will either sit forward or backward of its usual location, in addition to the extra track. It was asmuch as 30mm. enough to make it look odd and alter caster. it may also cause fouling issues with bigger wheels ?

Andrew Cooke

08-10-2008, 23:17

Winston

03-11-2008, 14:19

Cheers for the info guys... ive found out that the Williams and 19 16V wishbones give different castor depending on which you use... but ive put the wide tracking on hold for now.. I was forced to sell most of it...

Some of you may have been wondering why i was selling all my project parts i had collected to build the 5iams... After finding out my white 5 shell needed a new inner & sill, floor and other bits of rust sorting... I **** out :ashamed:

This 5 has been on ebay a few times... Ive wanted since i first laid my eyes on it & read the spec lol.... After getting a good deal on it with out the 1000cc engine.. It got dropped off at my house on saturday

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&Item=160291778597&Category=9861null&_trksid=p3907.m29

Plans... F1000 to F2000.. Ive still got plenty of goodies to add to it :)

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20F1000%20Rally%20Car/IMG_2387.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20F1000%20Rally%20Car/IMG_2340.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20F1000%20Rally%20Car/IMG_2389.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20F1000%20Rally%20Car/IMG_2374.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20F1000%20Rally%20Car/IMG_2355.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20F1000%20Rally%20Car/IMG_2356.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20F1000%20Rally%20Car/IMG_2357.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20F1000%20Rally%20Car/IMG_2369.jpg

Winston

03-11-2008, 14:20

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20F1000%20Rally%20Car/IMG_2346.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h175/76ball/5%20F1000%20Rally%20Car/IMG_2397.jpg

Schakal

03-11-2008, 14:45

winstaann you are shocker man :eek::eek:

what with all this weight saving on that 5 ?
looks like a 6 year old was let loose with a 15mm metal drill or may be
even a shotgun :laugh::laugh:

http://i3.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/fc/50/f947_1.JPG

OUTLAW

03-11-2008, 14:47

:laugh:

Winston

03-11-2008, 15:00

Erm.... to make it lighter? :cooter:

The shell used to be a EP motorsport drag car... then it was turned into a rally car using another 5 Rally car as a donar for parts

minty83

03-11-2008, 15:18

Any chance of some pictures of the underside showing the rear coilover set up??

Winston

03-11-2008, 15:30

Just the ebay picture for now... but I will get pics next time i jack the car up

http://i18.ebayimg.com/08/i/000/fc/51/0639_1.JPG

It has the turrets to run the Evo 3 rear shocks.. The torsion bars are still in place, I could run the springs as they are coilover shocks... Its something I will look into in the future

minty83

03-11-2008, 15:44

i thought the car had got rid of the axle full stop? there was an auto grass 5 on ebay last week which had done it.. some more pics please when u get chance mate:agree:

Woznaldo

31-01-2009, 07:26

Looking good Winston! Let's see some more phots of that rear undercarriage;).

Interesting what you, Scoff and Andy say about the Williams wishbones moving the hubs forward. What effect will the extra caster have on the handling and steering?

From what i've read it will increase the self centering effect, increase the steering weight and improve camber gain and directional stability. How much of each, I have no idea?

The downside of moving the hub forward instead of the top of the strut back, is that you are increasing the wheelbase, which will reduce the effect of the widetrack conversion on the wheelbase/track ratio.

I am no expert so, if someone can correct/ expand on my comments, then please do.