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Andrew Cooke
18-04-2009, 15:50
I'm in the process of swapping the fuel pump from the clio into the Twingo. No problem getting the pipes of the clio, but the Twingo has me stumped.

help :sad:

Scoff
18-04-2009, 15:52
do you not just press the green or red tab IN (toward the black pipes) whiles pulling them off the sender ? like you would with nylon quick connects.

Andrew Cooke
18-04-2009, 16:05
do you not just press the green or red tab IN (toward the black pipes) whiles pulling them off the sender ? like you would with nylon quick connects.

nothing seems to move, I've pulled, levered, twisted and hammered so far

Ashy
18-04-2009, 16:07
try pushing the black pipe in towards the green / red arrow (i.e. the opposite way to pulling it off) then slide the sleeve back the other way to relase the connector.

Andrew Cooke
18-04-2009, 16:19
I'm pulling and prodding but it all seems tight. Still, the manual shows how to do it :laugh:

Andrew Cooke
18-04-2009, 16:28
bugger it, I can't get it apart, and it's starting to look a bit second hand now:(

Scoff
18-04-2009, 16:34
maybe the collar is stuck fast, does plenty of wd40 not free it up ?

Ashy
18-04-2009, 16:44
its all about the MOT1265!!

olidaviesuk
18-04-2009, 17:31
I think there is a special tool for those connectors, they look suspiciously like those on a fiat coupe I had the 'pleasure' ahem (not) of rebuilding the engine on - the tool looks similar to circlip pliers..


I'm in the process of swapping the fuel pump from the clio into the Twingo. No problem getting the pipes of the clio, but the Twingo has me stumped.

help :sad:

Chris Hebden
18-04-2009, 17:41
Andy, on that green connector nearest the camera, there should be a tiny little tang sticking through the black connector, i think on each side of the plug, that you have to push in and pull the connector of at once. I used to use a little watch screw driver or something of that nature.

Rob@Backyardracing
18-04-2009, 18:15
On the green one (if im right as it looks similier to some porsches) normaly there is a half moon ring that sits in that gap showing, u remove this and push the inner sleave towards the tank till the couple mm gap is closed and it will then pull the whole thing back... Im so ****e at explaining... red one i aint a clue from the pic... :confused:

Andrew Cooke
18-04-2009, 18:17
On the green one (if im right as it looks similier to some porsches) normaly there is a half moon ring that sits in that gap showing, u remove this and push the inner sleave towards the tank till the couple mm gap is closed and it will then pull the whole thing back... Im so ****e at explaining... red one i aint a clue from the pic... :confused:

there was a 1/2 moon thing that I removed. Pushing and pulling is doing my head in. Fortunately I'm taking my mind off it by making engine mounts. The down side is I looked at the tank to take my mind off the bloody engine mounts :laugh:

clee
18-04-2009, 18:27
Maybe totally wrong but they look like compression fittings .You need to close up the gap on the outer retainer and then pull the pipe out .....Maybe ....Like Rob says but just pull the pipe back .

michael tierney
18-04-2009, 18:30
i think u sqeeze them like u would a childproof cap(deform in 2 places)they look the same as a clio fuel filter!??

Andrew Cooke
18-04-2009, 18:35
i think u sqeeze them like u would a childproof cap(deform in 2 places)they look the same as a clio fuel filter!??

it's not that, I've pulled one of them off the clio, so would recognise it.

Something else I've noticed is how many different types of electrical connector Renault use, each one with a different release technique:rolleyes:

J$£5GTT
18-04-2009, 23:20
I'm in the process of swapping the fuel pump from the clio into the Twingo. No problem getting the pipes of the clio, but the Twingo has me stumped.

help :sad:

maybe you remove them camotzi style or very similar to the vw stuff,i only know that
because i removed them to drain a mates tank before...petrol in a diesel...:dearme:

TURBO'D CLIO
19-04-2009, 13:57
Andrew

Where the black pipe goes in there is a black round bit at the bottom of the connector, push that black bit towards the coloured end whilst trying to pull the pipe off at the same time..

Do these all the time at work, they really are on there tight kist keep trying, pust that black bit up as hard as you can then pull the pipe off... :)

Good luck..

Just noticed ones black ones red, same idea thou.. push the round bits up closest to the pipe end, push them towards the sender unit and pull off at same time...

Andrew Cooke
19-04-2009, 19:24
I've had a bit more luck, I found a union the same as the red one on the engine, with the bit in my hand I was able to work it out. The one on the engine was clear. Basically the low pressure ones (like the red return) are collets, you push the body towards the tank, then with a small pointy thing you push back the inner ring, then slide the whole lot back. Came apart very easily once I'd worked out how it worked. Unfortunately I could have just cut that one off, it's the green one I need to save.

mr bean aka pete
19-04-2009, 19:28
andy you need a special pair of pliers to remove thos clips :( as i work for renault in oxfordshire and not far from you i can bring them along if you want ??? if your really stuck :)

Andrew Cooke
19-04-2009, 19:52
andy you need a special pair of pliers to remove thos clips :( as i work for renault in oxfordshire and not far from you i can bring them along if you want ??? if your really stuck :)

thanks, I've just done it... nothing seems to move, but I pushed the pipe with pliers, and levered the body back with a small spanner - then a thicker spanner etc. so yeah, it works a bit like disconnecting an airline, but with more force, and less movement. I can imagine that the right pliers and a day at the Renault training center would make the job easy

mr bean aka pete
20-04-2009, 22:23
glad you got the connectors apart, but having the right tools makes all the differance ;) :D

Andrew Cooke
20-04-2009, 22:25
glad you got the connectors apart, but having the right tools makes all the differance ;) :D

Yeah, I'll have to get an MOT1265 for my toolbox:scared:

mr bean aka pete
20-04-2009, 22:52
can buy patten part pliers they come in a set of 3 for different types of connectors ;)

Andrew Cooke
20-04-2009, 23:30
can buy patten part pliers they come in a set of 3 for different types of connectors ;)

you've convinced me, clicky, clicky :laugh:

TURBO'D CLIO
20-04-2009, 23:41
Yeah i bought them, snap on ones i got are shi*, my boss bought 3 cheapies off ebay and they work a treat...
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fuel-Line-Disconnect-Set-Pliers-3pc-By-Laser-3306_W0QQitemZ250397046910QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Ha nd_Tools_Equipment?hash=item250397046910&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1683%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318

Also - Did that 172 fuel pump fit direct into your original slot or was there some modding involved..

THE MASTER
20-04-2009, 23:54
i feel a youtube momment comming on
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_59n86U3Dvs
:laugh::laugh::laugh:

Andrew Cooke
20-04-2009, 23:58
Yeah i bought them, snap on ones i got are shi*, my boss bought 3 cheapies off ebay and they work a treat...
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fuel-Line-Disconnect-Set-Pliers-3pc-By-Laser-3306_W0QQitemZ250397046910QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Ha nd_Tools_Equipment?hash=item250397046910&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1683%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318

Also - Did that 172 fuel pump fit direct into your original slot or was there some modding involved..

I was hoping to drop the whole unit into the tank, but the Twingo has a load of walls around the pump, so I'd need to cut them out. The latest plan is to disassemble both units and try and fit the 172 pump and regulator into the Twingo housing. I will unfortunately lose the 172 collector when I do that. At the moment I don't know what will fit where.

THE MASTER
21-04-2009, 00:04
Andrew i have to say when those type of conector thgy wotzits were used on fuel fillters .(early slagooners) . we had to cut the pipe and fit differnt connector
your pdf file gave me the nightmare back again :cry:

TURBO'D CLIO
21-04-2009, 00:12
i feel a youtube momment comming on
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_59n86U3Dvs
:laugh::laugh::laugh:

Twist n shout.. :laugh::wasntme::laugh::wasntme::laugh: