Zafira GSI Help

[James5]

Last night on my way home from helping a fellow member remove and strip his engine from his GTT.

I ran in to my own problems on the M25 all of a sudden my Z20LET engined Zafira warning light came on :scared: the car then sounded like it was running on 3 cylinders. I am not to good with these modern engines but I think it could be a coil stick or pack failure, it wasn't very light by the time I got home so no chance to have a look will be hopefully be fixing over the weekend.

The temp gauge was fine, and no smoke or anything from the engine or exhaust, no leaks when checked, I will check sparkies any other suggestions?

[James5]

Anyone??


I will add the following, No loss of coolant, idle seems ok if a little lumpy (to be expected if running on 3 though) exhaust note has changed (Again to be expected if running on 3) sounds more beastley.

Will check the oil level over the weekend as well.

[Andrew Cooke]

are the coils the coil on plug type? they're pretty common to fail. It's about time you got an OBD reader - you know, the one you need for the 5 :D

[Andrew Cooke]

I've borrowed one of these from a guy at work to see how I get on.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OBD-II-EOBD-USB-Scanner-Diagnose-Scan-Tool-Interface-PC_W0QQitemZ150338591626QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Diag nostic_Tools_Equipment?hash=item150338591626&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1689|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A13 18

and downloaded the free version of this

http://www.palmerperformance.com/products/scanxlelm/index.php

and this

http://www.scantool.net/scantool/downloads/diagnostic-software/

obviously I haven't been able to plug it into anything yet.....

[James5]

are the coils the coil on plug type? they're pretty common to fail. It's about time you got an OBD reader - you know, the one you need for the 5 :D


The coils are the coil stick type directly attached to the sparkies but they are connected to a big block that is attached to all 4 and they do not sperate from the block at all:crap: So if one goes the whole setup needs to be replaced:(

I have been looking into OBD readers and just not to sure which one to get but it would help diagnose some problems.

[Ashy]

I've borrowed one of these from a guy at work to see how I get on.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OBD-II-EOBD-USB-Scanner-Diagnose-Scan-Tool-Interface-PC_W0QQitemZ150338591626QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Diag nostic_Tools_Equipment?hash=item150338591626&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1689|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A13 18 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OBD-II-EOBD-USB-Scanner-Diagnose-Scan-Tool-Interface-PC_W0QQitemZ150338591626QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Diag nostic_Tools_Equipment?hash=item150338591626&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1689%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318)



Andy, would that exact reader that you have linked connect to my 182 to clear the fault lights? not bad for £7.00 if it works?

[Andrew Cooke]

Andy, would that exact reader that you have linked connect to my 182 to clear the fault lights? not bad for £7.00 if it works?

I believe so Ashy, I'll know better once I've plugged onto mine

[Ashy]

nice one can you let us know how you get on?

[James5]

nice one can you let us know how you get on?


Ashy, I have just gone and ordered a hand held jobby as have no lappy. Once it arrives and I have finished you are welcome to use matey:D

Now all I need to do is get an OBD-II port with a section of loom for the 172 lump:( hopefully one of the cliosport boys are breaking a car

[Andrew Cooke]

Ashy, I have just gone and ordered a hand held jobby as have no lappy. Once it arrives and I have finished you are welcome to use matey:D

Now all I need to do is get an OBD-II port with a section of loom for the 172 lump:( hopefully one of the cliosport boys are breaking a car

if you can get hold of a connector and length of loom out of anything you'll be able to wire it in

[Ashy]

Ashy, I have just gone and ordered a hand held jobby as have no lappy. Once it arrives and I have finished you are welcome to use matey:D

Now all I need to do is get an OBD-II port with a section of loom for the 172 lump:( hopefully one of the cliosport boys are breaking a car

Nice one fellah :)

[TURBO'D CLIO]

Common fault on the 20 let lump im affraid mate..

Coil pack is one whole long piece, powers all 4 plugs in one go.. Cost's £120 from main dealer..

I would also like to add that where possible fit main dealer parts to vauxhall cars as the prices are very very good, a after market coil pack is around the £100 and a load of **** if you don't mind me saying, better to spend a extra £20 - £30 quid and get a proper one, and being 200 bhp standard you want a nice clean healthy spark...

Hope this helps, :agree:

rob

[TURBO'D CLIO]

hopefully one of the cliosport boys are breaking a car

Yup theres a 172 being broke on there, well 2 infact.. :cool:

[Andrew Cooke]

diagnostic socket is 225, I can talk you through it if you need

[James5]

diagnostic socket is 225, I can talk you through it if you need

:laugh: Your going to have to looking at that diagram:cooter:

[Andrew Cooke]

:laugh: Your going to have to looking at that diagram:cooter:


lol, it's pretty simple, you only need to worry about the wires going to the connector:cool:

[James5]

lol, it's pretty simple, you only need to worry about the wires going to the connector:cool:


Simple :laugh: I can't even get my R5 to run :rob:


Andy if you have no luck with that OBD you have borrowed you are also welcome to use this hand held thing I have ordered.:cooter:

[Andrew Cooke]

this is the clip I wanted to post...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuStsFW4EmQ&feature=related

but this one is fun too :cool:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5cL-h3Pj1o&feature=related

[Sparkie]

Ashy, the OBD reader will only turn off the engine light, not do any of the ABS or anything like that. its for emissions only....

[James5]

Well the problem seems to be fixed I purchased a new coil pack anyway from Vauxhall and done a basic service myself and the fault seems to have gone so I am assuming it was the coil pack.

Still got OBD Reader on the way.

Thanks for all your help and advice.